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    Default DVCNews Debates: Security

    In recent weeks, Disney announced some changes to the resort experience seemingly aimed at improve security at its hotels and timeshare villas. Some critics have blasted such moves as little more than ineffective "security theater." However, if security concerns were not impacting guests, there would seem to be little reason for adding to the "theater."



    Topic: Have you ever felt that security was inadequate at a DIsney theme park or resort?

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    Default I disagree with what they suggest, I do get the need for security, always felt safe

    I have always felt safe at Disney, that being a park or resort, Florida or Paris.
    But i get that there is indeed need for security in this day and age we live in, a very sad fact.
    However, the idea of housekeeping coming in and doing a walk through once every day, and not knowing
    when they plan to disturb me, that will make my stay less enjoyable.
    In another thread I saw they made an effort to give a time slot if you complain, and maybe that will help.
    I know normal hotel rooms have daily housekeeping, but it was just the predictability of a DVC stay i liked
    to plan around.
    Then again, so would probably persons with bad intentions...


    I disagree with what they suggest, I do get the need for security, but i have always felt safe...

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    We have never felt unsafe at Disney. We have seem more police presence at the Boardwalk, Disney Springs and Epcot then the Jersey shore or our home town. We've gone lots of places where we have not felt as safe - Arizona, Nassau, Puerto Rico, Canada to name a few. However, I don't believe any place is totally safe so we take precautions. We use the room safes. We have paired down what we bring on vacation - $$ and cards. We don't leave expensive articles or receipts sitting around the villa.

    I am always amazed - aghast - when I see parents paying no attention to their kids or letting them separate without immediate supervision.
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    Default Dead Bolt

    Guess that will mean I WILL be using the 'Dead Bolt' on my door! Or are they removing those as well? I know they are on OKW & VGF not sure about other resorts but I bet a lot of people will be using them now!

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    The idea is if someone is stockpiling weapons, they might see that before something happens. It is a small price to pay having someone pick up the trash and do that check for even the slight chance of seeing something amiss for all of us.

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    Going to need to remember to throw that deadbolt when we're in our room changing in to or out of our bathing suits ...
    - Lorie

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    Quote Originally Posted by brdwyguy View Post
    Guess that will mean I WILL be using the 'Dead Bolt' on my door! Or are they removing those as well? I know they are on OKW & VGF not sure about other resorts but I bet a lot of people will be using them now!
    For us this fits into our 'natural precaution' - we've always thrown the deadbolt

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    I'd rather an effort is made to enter the room while we are not there as I find the knocking intrusive. To my way of thinking, if entering to empty the trash than why not leave a coffee packet for the next day

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    We have always felt safe at Disney and the kids got their first tastes of freedom there. We let them go off by themselves (together) at a fairly early age and it was probably 2 or 3 years after that before we'd even think of letting them go off by themselves anywhere else (except at home/neighborhood).
    We never walked in the water and were aware of potential critters. We back to woods at home with a reservoir and we have a pool so we get snakes at home and other critters so maybe we're just more critter aware.
    I understand the precaution regarding entering the room daily but I'm not sure it would stop a determined person.
    For one thing, as others noted, just keep everything out of sight until the "moment" arrives. Unless they are going to look through luggage how are they going to be sure there isn't a rifle in the suitcase in the closet? Also I have seen reports (don't know if they are 100% accurate) that the evil LV perpetrator had room service and housekeeping interaction the day of. Didn't prevent anything if so.
    We have teens/young adults who stay out late and sleep in. We like to go out early. So there will be times when people will be sleeping late and the deadbolt will be off because others are coming and going. So now the benefits to my DVC villa become liabilities. I think do not disturb needs to be brought back and if the housekeeping staff can't get in by say 3pm - have someone come up and do a check after a phone call. I plan on making my own do not disturb/people sleeping naked sign. Or bringing a charley bar that fits under the door handle (if they take away the deadbolt). Again - that won't help if some are out and some are in.
    Also agree with the high rise issue to some degree. But we have BLT so.... and Riviera is going to be hi rise and the hotels that are at park entrances? Paris, Grand Californian, new Epcot hotel? And there are plenty of people waiting for buses/swimming in pools... It's a busy place full of families and almost a holy place to those of us who are complete Disney freaks so it's just the perfect place for this sort of thing.
    I'm hoping, that like other changes I've railed against, that this just becomes routine and everyone is respectful and that it all works out. But I really don't like that I will have to clean up every day before I leave and get on the others too, to put stuff away that we currently leave out.... Just a pain and taking away from the experience.
    OR Bring in daily maid service for DVC rentals. At least I won't have to make the beds. Maybe then I'd be less annoyed? But more broke from higher dues.... Can't win this one.
    Every day, the drip drip drip of losing privacy because of crazy terrorists (creating terror and causing increased security = decreased privacy). To borrow from Trump - SAD. Just sad. Disney's not supposed to be sad.
    Let's hope the world can become a safer place for everyone, everywhere. Sorry for being Debbie Downer.

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    After reading many posts on this subject, a recurring theme keeps coming up: Feeling Safe. All these layers of security give us the illusion of safety therefore we feel safe.

    Well, feeling safe is BS. I don't want to feel safe, I want to BE safe and having my trash picked up everyday isn't going to accomplish anything. Feeling safe in an unsafe world will get you killed. I lock my doors and close my blinds at home and keep my head on a swivel when I'm out. Maybe it's the Jersey in me but I'm not about to put on my Rose Colored glasses and start singing Cumb by Yah just because I'm in WDW

    If a terrorist is really in the room planning an attack, guess who the first dead person is going to be? That's right, the Mousekeeper that walks in on him with a bed covered in guns. Of course, this can only happen if the idiot leaves the deadbolt off on his door. And for comments like; "Well, they have tools that can get through the deadbolt...... " sure they do, but the Mousekeeper knocking on your door doesn't so she still isn't going to be barging in on you.

    This "LAYER" of security will accomplish nothing other than increase expenses and annoy guests.

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