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    Default Will 2021 finally bring a second Disneyland DVC?

    It has been more than 16 months since plans were announced to build a fourth Disney owned-and-operated resort on its west coast property. The inclusion of Disney Vacation Club villas seemed likely from the outset and new rumors only reinforce the belief.



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    Some people speculate that one reason why Disney hasn't built another DVC resort at Disneyland is that it would undermine sales for the Aulani resort in Hawaii. The thinking is that Disney will never be able to sell all of Aulani's 11 million DVC points if it had to compete against another West Coast DVC property, so its holding off on another DLR DVC resort until Aulani is at or near its "sold out" point.

    I have no way of knowing if that explains Disney's hesitancy in adding a second DVC at Disneyland. But I do know that Aulani is not close to being sold out and that sales have dropped in the last few months. I tracked Aulani point sales being in May 2014 and from that month through May 2016 the resort averaged 68,449 points in monthly sales. But from June 2016 to May 2017 sales steadily declined, averaging only 32,502 points a month. May 2017, the last month for which data is available, shows Aulani only sold 16,659 points.

    To put that last number in perspective, in May 2017 Disney sold 31,253 points for the eight "sold out" DVC resorts at Walt Disney World that it isn't even actively marketing.

    I won't say that Disney has given up on selling out Aulani, but it appears Disney is willing to let sales for Aulani run its own course.

    By the way, I can no longer track point sales for Aulani. Recently, the Hawaii Bureau of Conveyances, which records real estate transactions in Hawaii, modified its public website and no longer displays the number of points sold on deeds. The last sales data I have is only through June 13, 2017.






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    Glad to hear about new DVC at DLR. Hope it is really true. But......I still don't think that is enough units especially after Star Wars Land and new Marvel attractions open. We sure would like to be able to reserve a DVC villa at DLR at only a 2 or 3 month window like we can at WDW. We don't always know at 11 or 7 months out that we can stay. Tired of spending extra points on hotel rooms that don't have the amenities of the villas. Don't think the hotel rooms should be more points than the studios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltons View Post
    Glad to hear about new DVC at DLR. Hope it is really true. But......I still don't think that is enough units especially after Star Wars Land and new Marvel attractions open. We sure would like to be able to reserve a DVC villa at DLR at only a 2 or 3 month window like we can at WDW. We don't always know at 11 or 7 months out that we can stay. Tired of spending extra points on hotel rooms that don't have the amenities of the villas. Don't think the hotel rooms should be more points than the studios.
    I am impressed that you can always get a room at WDW at 2 or 3 months. You must not travel during October through early January to WDW.

    Part of the problem with the Disney hotel rooms is that a Disney hotel wants a reasonable value for their expensive hotel room. The number of points DVC is charging for the hotel is attempting to pay for the cash charge the hotel wants for the room. Since those points you are being used for a Disney cash hotel and they are not being used in the DVC system. DVC places the same number of points you are using for the hotel room on the Central Reservation System hoping to get cash for them to pay for the hotel room. The Disney cash hotels do not really accept points they want cash. Like Disney Cruise the Disney hotels often want a lot of cash. After all they can usually get more on a regular cash reservation.
    --Denise

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    11/30/17 - 12/14/17 - Bay Lake Tower at the Contemporary Resort
    03/01/18 - 03/08/18 - Copper Creek at the Wilderness Lodge

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    While I like the idea of another 7 month location to use the points I already own, I can't see this being a place I'd want to spend more than a few days at.

    I can spend weeks and weeks at WDW and never get bored. DL...... not so much. There is also a TON of nice, inexpensive hotels within easy walking distance to the parks.

    I also have zero interest in visiting CA for anything more than DL and the Redwood Forest.

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    Thanks for explaining how that all works, I was never sure. I know there are a lot of politics involved with how, where and when DVC resorts are built, but for the life of us, we can't figure out why anyone questioned weather or not DLR could support at least a 125 to 150 unit resort in the first place. We talk to DVC members all the time at DLR about how disappointed they are that they either had to use points or paid cash for a Disney hotel or had to stay off property.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waltons View Post
    Thanks for explaining how that all works, I was never sure. I know there are a lot of politics involved with how, where and when DVC resorts are built, but for the life of us, we can't figure out why anyone questioned weather or not DLR could support at least a 125 to 150 unit resort in the first place. We talk to DVC members all the time at DLR about how disappointed they are that they either had to use points or paid cash for a Disney hotel or had to stay off property.
    The sad part is that DVC had the right to add on more rooms in same wing based on the declaration, but the hotel really wanted those rooms and DVC let them have them. I wonder if DVC often regrets that decision? It would not have been a lot of rooms but still even another 15 would have been nice.
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    11/30/17 - 12/14/17 - Bay Lake Tower at the Contemporary Resort
    03/01/18 - 03/08/18 - Copper Creek at the Wilderness Lodge

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    [QUOTE=KNWVIKING 2.0;196342] There is also a TON of nice, inexpensive hotels within easy walking distance to the parks.

    You're right. There are a lot of great hotels off property within walking distance and we have done that. But when you have toddlers and/or small children with their unexpected and sometimes odd needs, it has just been a whole lot easier to be on property, for us anyway especially if you can be at the VGC.
    Occasionally we have been able to take advantage of a great discount with DLR hotels and we have just paid for it instead of using points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by denlo View Post
    The sad part is that DVC had the right to add on more rooms in same wing based on the declaration, but the hotel really wanted those rooms and DVC let them have them. I wonder if DVC often regrets that decision? It would not have been a lot of rooms but still even another 15 would have been nice.
    Yep, that whole wing could have been DVC. And yes, any amount extra would be better. One of the rumors we heard way back at the beginning is that if they had fought for the extra rooms that were up for contention, there might have been 25 more units. We realize that even with more units, it would still be difficult getting a villa because there would be that many more points sold, but it would still most likely afford you more choices at both the 11 and 7 month windows.
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