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    Is there any real limit on how many points they can sell? It seems like every month there is a "new" block of points for sale at certain resorts. Can they really "sell out" of hypothetical points? I have been an owner since 2003, never had much of a problem booking any time I wanted to go, until the last couple years, anything I try to book other than home resort at the 7 month window is impossible, it hardly seems worth it anymore owning at the biggest resort SSR, because I can't stay anywhere else


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    Quote Originally Posted by disneybaker View Post
    Is there any real limit on how many points they can sell? It seems like every month there is a "new" block of points for sale at certain resorts. Can they really "sell out" of hypothetical points? I have been an owner since 2003, never had much of a problem booking any time I wanted to go, until the last couple years, anything I try to book other than home resort at the 7 month window is impossible, it hardly seems worth it anymore owning at the biggest resort SSR, because I can't stay anywhere else


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    Yes. Each resort has a fixed number of points. They cannot add additional points to that DVC later because like splitting stock it would devalue current owners points and therefore devalue their contract/ownership which they cannot do. That's the reason Copper Creek is set up as an independent DVC from Boulder Ridge even though they are at the same resort. In the case of the Polynesian, they increased capacity with the bungalows, but the fixed amount of points for that resort did not change.

    We've booked Beach Club at the 7 month mark, Boardwalk during food and wine at the 7 month mark, and Polynesian at the 7 month mark. Our home resort is Boulder Ridge and we've booked more than one trip on short notice there. The only one that required adjusting the reservation was Boardwalk for food & wine because it had 3 of the 5 days we wanted, so we we had to waitlist the other 2, and they came through within a few weeks of the original booking. We also only stay in Studios because our two contracts only equal 220 points a year right now, and those are very limited compared to most of the other categories (with exception of grand villas and cabins/bungalows).


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    There is definitely is a limited number of points, but DVC ROFRs contracts and people default on their Disney loans or contracts all the time so DVC has more points coming back to a resort to be sold again usually at a higher price.

    DVC resorts are supposed to work so that each resort is 100% booked 51 of 52 weeks each year. Right now more resorts are sold out than those that are still selling new points. Also the resale market is very active, so points that would have sat unused are being sold and used by the new owners. Plus members are more savvy and they rent out points versus allowing them to expire. A healthy economy is a big factor too as many can afford to take a WDW vacation which is still expensive even using your DVC points.

    Many members that owned at SSR, HHI and VB bought at a cheaper resort that they had no intention of staying at and often booked at a WDW resort. Those extra points affect the availability at the remaining DVC resorts too. It all adds up.
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    Don't forget. You also add Aulani into the mix. It isn't sold out and my guess is that lots of members there use their points at WDW as well at seven months out. Just like VB and HHI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deb & Bill View Post
    Don't forget. You also add Aulani into the mix. It isn't sold out and my guess is that lots of members there use their points at WDW as well at seven months out. Just like VB and HHI.
    We own at Aulani and only use those points at Aulani. But I can see that many would try to get into VGC first and then consider WDW.
    --Denise

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    11/30/17 - 12/14/17 - Bay Lake Tower at the Contemporary Resort

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