Aulani points chart published

[DVCNews]

The 2011 points chart for Disney's Aulani resort in Hawai'i have been posted on line. Click on the link below to view. Note that this link will redirect to a PDF document on an official Disney site. Availability of the link may vary if Disney removes or alters the document. Resort sales will reportedly begin on July 1, 2010.

2011 Aulani points chart (http://advc.disney.go.com/media/dvc_v0302/languagespecific/eng/member/vacationplanning/pointscharts/2011/disneyvacationclub/2011PointsChart_DisneyVacationClub_AulaniVillas.pd f)

Original Article (http://dvcnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1284&Itemid=1)

[cloudnut220]

My first thought was "wow, that's a lot of points!" but after looking and comparing with the VGC and BLT points charts, it doesn't seem that terrible. What do you all think?

[katiegel]

I agree it's not "terrible"...but think about airfare!! Needless to say we won't be going any time soon!

[teburgess]

Overall I think the points are reasonable for the resort if it is as wonderful as it sounds it is going to be. Everyday at Aulani is a peak day apparently!

PLEASE take note in the disclaimer area that we are going to be required to pay a resort tax based on the number of points used for the res and the annual dues typically paid on those points.

I wonder if MS is going to be able to provide estimates on that amount at the time of reservation.

[cloudnut220]

I agree it's not "terrible"...but think about airfare!! Needless to say we won't be going any time soon!

Airfare hasn't been that terrible from here (DC area) I have some friends that went last Nov for about $350pp round trip. Yes, more than a flight to MCO, but not as much as Europe.

The thing that's discouraging to me is that if I'm flying ALL that way (it's like 12 hours of travel time from the east coast IF you're only making one stop) I would really like to stay longer than a week. But a week zaps almost all of my points if we stay in anything bigger than a studio. Guess dad and I are going to have to combine points on this one just to get a 2 bedroom!

[Zach Skellington]

Not bad... I'm also curious to see how the resort tax comes in. I think it's pretty safe to say that we'll be making this trip in the next few years.

[robertdangelo]

With the changes DVC has made to point charts in the past two years... I wonder if they will eventually make the weekday points per day equal the weekend points per day.

[ACDSNY]

Wow, pretty high for the ocean view, but the others are reasonable. I was trying to remember how much the HI tax was when we stayed at Marriott Waiohai (2 bdrm) a few years ago, seem to remember around $10 per day. We'll see what they come up with Aulani.

[wishyouwell]

Who wants to guess how many SV rooms are there? As long as I can stay in the resort, the room view is not important to me. I will be happy just to be staying in a DVC resort in HAWAII!!!

[Sweetpea]

Don't get me wrong Aulani looks to be fantastic and I know I will go but the points are VERY high. I'm not sure I would be able to justify repeat stays. :scratchchin:

[dizfan]

What caught my eye is that the Grand Villas only have ocean or standard view. It's a big gap between a view of the pacific or a parking lot/convention center with nothing to choose from in between.

[cloudnut220]

What caught my eye is that the Grand Villas only have ocean or standard view. It's a big gap between a view of the pacific or a parking lot/convention center with nothing to choose from in between.

I'm guessing that has something to do with where the GVs are located in the building. If I remember correctly, there is a similar setup at BLT--only LV and MKV GVs because of where they are in the building.

[dweibel]

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[dweibel]

The referenced link doesn't seem to work for me. Is there another location? I don't see them listed in the members section either.
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[cloudnut220]

It looks like DVC must have taken it down. But if you're curious, it's pretty similar to the points for VGC. Key differences were there were four room categories (standard view, island garden view, pool garden view, ocean view) and the rooms were the same number of points all days of the week. The cheapest studios started at about 120 points per week in the low season, up to almost 200 points a week in the high season.

[Twinspin]

New DVC member and first post here. Did they remove the link to the Aulani points chart? I'm just seeing general info on the resort but no points chart.

[surena]

Was anyone able to download the points chart for Aulani? If so, can someone please send me the points charts via email as I am trying to make a decsion whether or not to purchase additional points in the VGC before the price increase.

Thanks,

rsnb@comcast.net

[DisneyGeek]

I agree with some others about the point chart overall not looking totally horrendous; in another thread I was starting a simple analysis for OV vs. BLT @ MK. Seemed like the difference was 25% or less more in HI.


PLEASE take note in the disclaimer area that we are going to be required to pay a resort tax based on the number of points used for the res and the annual dues typically paid on those points.

I hadn't noticed that until you point it out! If it is only $10 or less per night I don't really care too much, but I'd certainly want to know ahead of time what I will have to pay! (When I make my ressie...)


I am trying to make a decsion whether or not to purchase additional points in the VGC before the price increase.

The chart could theoretically still change before the official release so you might not want to base your purchase decision entirely on this draft even if you get a hold of it (I got something from a post yesterday; not sure if it was the same link as here or not).

However, you should be able to call your guide and start an add on, then either cancel it altogether or change the amount up or down once the final point charts come out. That should lock you in to the current prices... :rolleye11:

[wishyouwell]

OK surena, I will send you a copy.

[surena]

I just wanted to thank everyone who sent me the points chart.

It really helped us out as we have to make a decision pretty quick before the price per point increase.

[Steph_in_MA]

To me, the points don't seem too bad. We would probably do it once...spend some time in Disneyland and then jet off to Aulani.

[danbrantner]

I guess I was too late! I would appreciate it if someone could email me the chart. dan.brantner@yahoo.com

[TimK]

I added a JPG of the now-removed points chart to the original story.

Tim

[worldfanatic]

Overall, I'm happy to see the points are a bit less than I expected.
Also very glad to see september as a value time of year, as that's when we most often head to Hawaii.

Doubt we'll buy in, but hope to visit every 2-3 years.:yahoo:

[BlueNGold]

Let's see, this is what, the third resort the points charts "leaked" online and were then taken down...

Come on, DVD, you've got to be more original in building "buzz."

Speaking of Buzz. Saw TS3 today. Big win for Disney/Pixar. Superb.

[rinkwide]

Hey Tim, when the final numbers come out how about doing an in-depth total cost analysis comparing this new resort to the Marriott Ko Olina Beach Club next door? From the early figures I've seen, Disney looks to be asking a 40 to 60 percent premium for little more than a concrete volcano and a few Lilo & Stitch meet and greets.

[DisneyGeek]

From the early figures I've seen, Disney looks to be asking a 40 to 60 percent premium for little more than a concrete volcano and a few Lilo & Stitch meet and greets.

Personally I'm also hoping for some Hidden Mickeys... :fingerscrossed:

[CrazyDuck]

Those initial numbers don't seem right to me.... Realistically there should only be 3 seasons...

Holiday Season: Jan 1, Nov 22-26, Dec 23-31
Stay Warm Season: Jan 2 - Mar 31, Nov 1-Nov 21, Nov 27-Dec 22
SPF 50 Season: Apr 1- Oct 31

Spring Break is not much of a draw here. And there is no reason February should be the cheapest season when it is when everyone wants to get away from the snow!

[mikiemouse]

Those initial numbers don't seem right to me.... Realistically there should only be 3 seasons...

Holiday Season: Jan 1, Nov 22-26, Dec 23-31
Stay Warm Season: Jan 2 - Mar 31, Nov 1-Nov 21, Nov 27-Dec 22
SPF 50 Season: Apr 1- Oct 31



I agree, at least with the dates being wrong. If Jan / Feb are fewest points, I may actually buy enough points to go every 2 - 3 years. Of course, I haven't seen what the dues are going to be.

[scolling007]

My first thought was "wow, that's a lot of points!" but after looking and comparing with the VGC and BLT points charts, it doesn't seem that terrible. What do you all think?

I agree I thought that it would be way worse bt i am plesantly surprised it isn't!;)

[DisneyGeek]

And there is no reason February should be the cheapest season

Sorry, have to disagree on that one. DW's BD is in Feb, so that is DEFINITELY a time when it should be cheap to take her to HI on points... ;)

[scolling007]

PLEASE take note in the disclaimer area that we are going to be required to pay a resort tax based on the number of points used for the res and the annual dues typically paid on those points.

This is very curious to me, how in the hell are they going to detirmine what the points are, and the last line says that those fees can change from year to year. This sounds like it could put an additional dent on the wallet.

[scolling007]

And there is no reason February should be the cheapest season when it is when everyone wants to get away from the snow!

Totally agree, Decmeber, January, and February are indeed the most busiest times in Hawaii for three reasons:

#1 Winter time brings the biggest ocean swells (this is the time that all of the surfing tournaments happen in Oahu including the Wikiki Nationals, and the Bonzai Pipeline.

#2 This is also the time that the humback whales migrate through the islands, brings in people from all of the world come to see it.

#3 It is Cold as hell almost everywhere else in the world

[DAK2005]

Hi All
Does anyone have a guess when they will start selling?
Maybe even an educated guess would be nice.
DAK

[DisneyGeek]

Hi All
Does anyone have a guess when they will start selling?
Maybe even an educated guess would be nice.
DAK

Official point charts and prices are supposed to be announced July 1st: http://dvcnews.com/index.php/hawaii--ko-olina-resorts-175/1283-aulani-news-bits-from-disneyland (http://dvcnews.com/forum/../index.php/hawaii--ko-olina-resorts-175/1283-aulani-news-bits-from-disneyland)
My guess is that once they announce prices and start session they'll either be on sale or at least a start date will come out then...

[worldfanatic]

Hi All
Does anyone have a guess when they will start selling?
Maybe even an educated guess would be nice.
DAK

When our new DVC guide called to introduce himself, I mentioned that I was excited about Aulani.
He claimed (off the record, of course) that it would almost certainly be going on sale in July.:confused24:

[denlo]

Originally Posted by teburgess
PLEASE take note in the disclaimer area that we are going to be required to pay a resort tax based on the number of points used for the res and the annual dues typically paid on those points.


This is very curious to me, how in the hell are they going to detirmine what the points are, and the last line says that those fees can change from year to year. This sounds like it could put an additional dent on the wallet.

See this article that posted today on the DVC News: http://dvcnews.com/index.php/hawaii--ko-olina-resorts-175/1292-aulani-pricing-dues-taxes

It looks like in 2011 it'll be $0.1993 per point you pay for your room reservation. The DVC will know how many points you use to reserve the villa and will be able to determine the tax based on those points. If the villa is rented on a cash basis there is a room tax that would be added to the charges instead. Hawaii is just one of many states or counties around the country that are trying to make up shortages in income by charging taxes to nonvoters. Since we actually just lease the points for 50 years from the DVC, we can't really say we are owners under the state laws.

[Damiankoolinabeachvilla]

Wow, pretty high for the ocean view, but the others are reasonable. I was trying to remember how much the HI tax was when we stayed at Marriott Waiohai (2 bdrm) a few years ago, seem to remember around $10 per day. We'll see what they come up with Aulani.


I own a condo next door to the Aulani. We do rent out and the tax is 12.96% You may as well say 13%. For those that are still interested.

[Damiankoolinabeachvilla]

Totally agree, Decmeber, January, and February are indeed the most busiest times in Hawaii for three reasons:

#1 Winter time brings the biggest ocean swells (this is the time that all of the surfing tournaments happen in Oahu including the Wikiki Nationals, and the Bonzai Pipeline.

#2 This is also the time that the humback whales migrate through the islands, brings in people from all of the world come to see it.

#3 It is Cold as hell almost everywhere else in the world


We used to live there full time...for those that ask why we left...well the school system sucked and work was limited. But we will return now the kids are older and in college. We recently did buy a new condo next door to the Aulani, at the Koolina Beach Villas. We have been renting it out for the last year...Ko Olina is wonderful and there are many reasons that Diseny probably chose it. We love it and sometimes rarely leave the resort. We had purchased a 3 bedroom 3 bath unit for the size of our family. Ko Olina is so far removed from the busier parts of Oahu it is like being on the outer islands yet having all the fun things to do that are on Oahu.

Time of year to go...it depends on your personal circumstances. It is a bit wetter in December and January. They are peak seasons for the reasons you say....it is cold as hell everywhere else and even when it is raining in Hawaii it is warm! Ko Olina is on the leeward side of the island so it is much drier than the rest of the island...almost desert like.

Summers are great if you have kids in school it may be your only opportunity so prices tend to be up but not as much as the end of december begining of January. We see a drop off mid Feb to May. summers are busy. I think one of the best times to go is after august through the beginning of November when it cools just a bit and the kids are in school. The beach are empty during the week...and even on the weekends you would be amazed at how few people there are...one of the benefits of being in a gated resort with limited public access. These are some of the safest beaches in Hawaii, especially for children. The snorkling is great and the water is about 20 feet near the opening of the lagoons...in Lagoon 2 there are several sea turtlesthat hang out there...very cool.

Price of flights varies widely. Being the most expensive around christmas but dropping after that. I always look for fares plus or minus a few days. I am not sure if DVC locks you in to specific weeks not being a member. If you are traveling from the east coast as I do...non stop from Newark NJ you want to spend at least 10 days if you can afford the time and the cost. From the west coast it is not so bad but it is still nice to have the time. (used to live in CA as well).

For any one looking to visit, or purchase DVC, or looking for accomodations until the Aulani is welcome to contact us. I am more than happy to share information on the resort and what we know about it...what to do etc.

Damian

[ACDSNY]

Thanks for the info Damiankoolinabeachvilla!

We've only stayed on Kauai so far and we're looking forward to our Jan 2012 visit (Kauai & hopefully Aulani).

[Damiankoolinabeachvilla]

Thanks for the info Damiankoolinabeachvilla!

We've only stayed on Kauai so far and we're looking forward to our Jan 2012 visit (Kauai & hopefully Aulani).


Well if you can not get into the Aulani...look us up we have a new 3 bedroom 3 bath condo next door to the Aulani We are between the Marriott and the Aulani...for not too much more than what they are offering a studio for. Every bit as luxurious...just no volcano...but right next door. check it out on Homeaway. com property 227444 you will see what I mean....if you need information on planning your trip give a holler. Ok I know some folks absolutly have to have the Disney experience....I wonder if I could accept disney points on a secondary market!

[ACDSNY]

Well if you can not get into the Aulani...look us up we have a new 3 bedroom 3 bath condo next door to the Aulani We are between the Marriott and the Aulani...for not too much more than what they are offering a studio for. Every bit as luxurious...just no volcano...but right next door. check it out on Homeaway. com property 227444 you will see what I mean....if you need information on planning your trip give a holler. Ok I know some folks absolutly have to have the Disney experience....I wonder if I could accept disney points on a secondary market!

Beautiful place Damian, I've bookmarked it for future reference.

[ffpmme]

Having just checked out the point charts it appears that it is very reasonable. For a island view Studio in high season for 185/week is not bad at all I think. I would pay that. Not the best view but your still there right?

[Stitch]

Any ideas if this point chart is going to be unique to Aulani or a standard for future DVC locations in that there is no longer a distinction between Sunday -Thursday and Friday & Saturdays?

[DisneyGeek]

Good question- it also leads me wonder about the possibility for 2012's charts either being completely level 7 days a week or closer to it for all resorts... :confused:

[wdrl]

Good question- it also leads me wonder about the possibility for 2012's charts either being completely level 7 days a week or closer to it for all resorts... :confused:

I doubt we'll see the weekend and weekday points being the same at the Stateside DVC resorts. Aulani's point chart is different because Disney looks at Aulani differently than it does at the other DVC resorts. There are DVC members who live fairly close to the resorts and can take weekend getaway trips to Orlando, Anaheim, Hilton Head, or Vero Beach, resulting in a slightly greater demand for weekend nights. At Aulani, Disney probably does not expect much traffic from locals. Instead, most Aulani visitors will be coming from the States or Japan and will be checking in throughout the week and staying more than just two days.

[DisneyGeek]

Excellent points about the properties in the contiguous states and weekends. I hope you are right; my parents are in the really annoyed crowd over the 2010 & 2011 reallocations; if weeknights go up more (especially @ VWL or AKV) my dad's head may explode! :grin:

[denlo]

Excellent points about the properties in the contiguous states and weekends. I hope you are right; my parents are in the really annoyed crowd over the 2010 & 2011 reallocations; if weeknights go up more (especially @ VWL or AKV) my dad's head may explode! :grin:

The sad thing is that the point reallocations were way over due and should have been made years ago when a lot of members quit booking weekends. The DVC really screwed up on that one, they should have nipped it in the bud early on. The whole idea of a timeshare is to have all of the days for a villa booked except for the one week a year when it taken out of the reservation system for refurbishment.

The point charts were originally set up so the weekends cost a lot more points because Disney really thought the locals would use their points on weekends only and they were trying to discourage them. Instead the point charts encouraged members to book only weekday stays. So much so that people were actually checking out of a DVC resort for just a weekend and then returning to the DVC when the points dropped to the weekday rate. When you think about the members caused the change. But that probably won't make your dad feel any better, because he thought he had a good deal before.

[DisneyGeek]

denlo- I do point that out to my dad; there were also books that SUGGESTED not suing DVC for weekends. Totally agree that members did it to themselves and DVC should have changed things before it go to this point. Personally, I use DVC to make staying at nicer places when & where I want cheaper. Usually that will mean at least one Friday or Saturday every trip I take; I have taken one 3 night trip in Oct. 2009 and have one 4-night booked for May 2011 that included BOTH a Friday & Sat. So for some of my trips, I am in the less-vocal minority that will save points! :grin:

[denlo]

denlo- I do point that out to my dad; there were also books that SUGGESTED not suing DVC for weekends. Totally agree that members did it to themselves and DVC should have changed things before it go to this point. Personally, I use DVC to make staying at nicer places when & where I want cheaper. Usually that will mean at least one Friday or Saturday every trip I take; I have taken one 3 night trip in Oct. 2009 and have one 4-night booked for May 2011 that included BOTH a Friday & Sat. So for some of my trips, I am in the less-vocal minority that will save points! :grin:

Since we drive about 1000 miles to get to WDW we definitely stay over a weekend as we prefer to stay at least 7 days. I just can't imagine packing up and moving off property to just save some points. I hate packing and unpacking more than I absolutely have to. In fact we've mainly taken cruises (not Disney :eek:) in the last 25 years because of this desire to unpack/pack once. In facts when we do split stays we have two suit cases, one for the first resort and one for the second. Of course we take up everything and do laundry at the second resort.