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DisneyGeek
12-11-2011, 03:30 PM
CN- I'm jealous, but glad you're having fun! :thumbsup2:

Did 1800 yards @ the pool, and the main 1750 was in 29:21.68! :yahoo: I always like it when I'm under 30 minutes for that... :silly:

cyl-e
12-11-2011, 06:59 PM
DG - can not believe that you ran 136 laps on a track...wow - you have some endurance. I think I might have gotten dizzy and fallen ;)

Beth - you're pics and posts have made Magic and Merriment sound like so much fun - wish we had decided to do it.

DisneyGeek
12-11-2011, 07:21 PM
I think I might have gotten dizzy and fallen ;)

:rotfl2: It wasn't that bad, but thanks! Hopefully the full only has left turns since I'm getting REALLY good at those. :grin:

DiZ NeE 08
12-11-2011, 07:21 PM
When I run, I run around a park and I have to run around it 1.5 times to make 1.2 miles approximately so I run around it 5 times to go a little bit more than 5k. I try to run around it 7 times to get a bit more out of it.

I tried to go running today in which I ran one mile and had to go back home as it started raining. I got home and got a rain coat the rain had stopped when I walked into my house as soon as I got to the sidewalk it started pouring like crazy! I stopped running...

withdisneyspirit
12-11-2011, 08:08 PM
Rick and I made it through our 15 mile run today pretty well. We are going to shoot for 20 next week even though that is a bit of a jump in mileage. Today was my longest run to date and Rick has done 16. We are grateful!! :goodvibes:

Great job, cyl-e; I think you did awesome, especially on the heels of your ten mile run!!

It was cold out there today, DG, but not like you have. sorry the treadmill is in your future :oweye:

withdisneyspirit
12-11-2011, 08:14 PM
Oh, and nono, I did not see your question before. Rick and I are running 3/1 intervals. :grin:

Rozzie
12-12-2011, 04:55 AM
Nice job cyl-e! Especially with all that traffic. I don't understand either the way folks seed themselves in the local races. It's one of my greatest pet peeves.

We managed 8 slow miles yesterday. Calves are still feeling tight after the race. More rolling in my future. :p

DisneyGeek
12-12-2011, 06:23 AM
Diz- YMMV, but rain doesn't cause me asthma or other serious problems. As long as it isn't so intense as to seriously limit visibility I say just run through it; forget about a raincoat as that will just interfere with sweating properly unless it is a higher-tech fabric that blocks rain but remains breathable. In any case, good luck with the weather!

Lisa- Glad you got in those miles & I hope things go well for a 20!

Roz- Happy rolling, hope it helps!

32 minutes on the elliptical today. Gotta' head to work soon; haven't showered yet and should leave in about 5 minutes (like that ever happens)... :grin:

Dr.'s appointment tomorrow before work (to get the results of my sleep study!) and Praise Team rehearsal Tuesday night so chances are good it will be a rest day, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing... :idea: Maybe I'll play drums with extra vigor and call it cross training! :silly: (Believe it or not fitbit actually does have an activity slot for "Drums" that I didn't manually create! :thumbsup2:)

cyl-e
12-12-2011, 12:04 PM
withdisneyspirit - great job on the 15 miler
All of you preparing for the marathon amaze me. I have been feeling like my 13-14 mile long runs are really long - can't imagine having to do more...

Bagged out on my speed work this morning - went to the gym and started warming up - but my legs felt like lead and I decided to give myself a break. So I went home and did a little (and I mean a little) yoga. Will try to get the workout in later this week. I think the 10miles, then the 5k race did me in, in terms of trying to have a real workout this morning.

Plus - I showed the restraint of my cat this weekend while eating (which is to say none...) - so the scale was a much less friendly number. Love holiday eating, just wish my scale would work with me more...

DisneyGeek
12-12-2011, 03:17 PM
I showed the restraint of my cat this weekend while eating (which is to say none...)

Cool phrase! Sorry about the workout but there will be others!

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nono
12-12-2011, 03:36 PM
Rick and I made it through our 15 mile run today pretty well. We are going to shoot for 20 next week even though that is a bit of a jump in mileage. Today was my longest run to date and Rick has done 16. We are grateful!! :goodvibes:


Yee ha! on the 15 miles...and remember, 18-19 strong is good enough too! :goodvibes: I'm not doing my 20 miles until Dec. 23. And I reserve the right to revise downward if things are stinky!

cloudnut220
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
Just finished up Magic and Merriment. It was wonderful! I'll do a full TR when I'm in a computer (waiting for illuminations now) but, wow! Hope to get a few miles in tomorrow before we fly home.

Rozzie
12-12-2011, 08:10 PM
Yee ha! on the 15 miles...and remember, 18-19 strong is good enough too! :goodvibes: I'm not doing my 20 miles until Dec. 23. And I reserve the right to revise downward if things are stinky!

Amen sister! I am not sold on how important 20 milers are--the recovery from them needs to be realistic. If I ever do another full again I may knock them out entirely. I got 10/20 this weekend, but mainly doing it for my floundering fueling issues/confidence.

DiZ NeE 08
12-13-2011, 11:31 AM
Wow! Everyone is meeting and beating goals! congrats!!!

I am going out for a run right now and remembered that I was wondering about running music. I have been listening to all kinds of music that I like but I cant keep a steady tempo with faster paced music. I was looking for something more calm or something like a radio talk show that is interesting. I have ran while listening to wdwtoday , I can keep my pace and it keeps me entertained. Any suggestions, I have an android phone so some options are out of the question. I also have an itouch with a lot of music but I dont want to update it as I dont have the original computer and will lose everything.

nono
12-13-2011, 02:12 PM
Knocked out 10 today -- first mile way slow warm up with my 7 yr old dd (She asked if she could take a break from her school work and go run 1 mi!). Then I did the boardwalk plus a bit by myself for 6 more, then picked up my dog and did a final 3 on the sand.

So, I'm thinking of dividing up my race into 5 segments, with 4 1/4 mile walking breaks after every 5 miles. Walking in my Nike Frees really seems to "reset" everything in my lower body, so I'm thinking to make myself more comfortable, I should do this. I am working this pattern into all my longer runs. I imagine the hardest part of all will be remembering where the breaks are: 5-5.25 mi, 10.25-10.5 mi, 15.5-15.75 mi, 20.75-21 mi. Must remember bic pen to write these on me that morning! :grin:

DiZ NeE 08
12-13-2011, 06:18 PM
Nono - congrats on finding a certain pattern that works for you!

today I just did the 5k as I started getting cramped up. I decided to go to runners depot which is a running store that is about 40 minutes from me, but I wanted to see if my running has gotten better, how my footing has gotten. barry which I believe is the manager told me that my running is getting a lot more efficient and im running on the balls of my feet instead of my old heal-toe which would give me massive shin splints! out of 4 shoes that I tried I only really liked one pair which are called newton - isaac newtons but they were 150 plus tax and I was planning on spending that much money on a pair of shoes that would be just for running because I tried to walk in them and after about 2 minutes of walking my calves started killing me!

does anyone else run on the balls of their feet? Do you prefer certain shoes?

DisneyGeek
12-13-2011, 07:39 PM
nono- Great on the run, dd, and your interval plan! GL w/ the 23rd.

CN- I'm looking forward to checking out that thread when I get a chance.

Roz- Hope the 10/20 goes well.

Diz- I do conventional heel strike running and love the Brooks Adrenaline GTS series of shoes, but everyone's biomechanics are different. Specialty shoes like neutons are more expensive than more mainstream ones. I currently budget $108 per pair and to buy four a year, replacing each pair after I cross 283.75 miles on them (Since I'm pretty heavy at 243.8 pounds currently I break down shoes faster than some people; there are those who will put 300 - 500 or more miles on a pair before replacing them. My dad had some shoes with well over 1000 miles on them, but he's also now had 5 knee surgeries). Anyway, I keep 4 pairs of running shoes active at any given time; two that I alternate workouts on at the treadmill and a separate 2 I alternate for outside runs. Reason: There are schools of thought that giving shoes some recovery time for cushioning to decompress can help them last longer and help avoid injuries. Using different shoes on each workout can also help make sure the exact same points (muscles, tendons, etc.) aren't overused by casuing things to hit slightly differently.

I'm sure Roz & nono can give you better explanations (I spent most of my teenage years up to my early 30s rebelling against my dad and running so I'm not nessecarily that great a spokesman! :silly:), but I hope that gets your thought process started.

cloudnut220
12-13-2011, 07:46 PM
The whole D23 event is recapped in the Tr thread (thank you airtan in flight wifi) it's long but there was a lot to cover!

DiZ NeE 08
12-13-2011, 08:49 PM
I just finished reading the last part of it and I loved it! Thank you for posting it. Amazing pictures!!!

Dg - how tall are you? I currently weigh 200lbs and I switch 2 pairs of nike moto 6 shoes that I found on sale a while back... I think I might have the same problem as your dad. I have shoes that I still use from high school because I love them so much, but not for running! I think the bad thing about the nike moto 6's is that I use them for everything. I have had them for almost a year I think. I use them so much since they are soo comfortable which is probably my down fall! I might have to go hunting for another pair of motos

Rozzie
12-14-2011, 06:06 AM
Diz, be very careful about the Newtons. They are not for everybody. My sports Doc says he is going to write a thank you note to Newton for all the new business. (kidding of course, but he said he has seen a dramatic rise in stress fxs/achilees from folks incorrectly using them) Not to knock Newtons, as he wears them. He is a lean 170, over 6ft and very efficient runner. (he does not heel strike) What newtons do is almost train you into a proper forfront positin (not heel), but some people rebel against the action and do far too many miles in them all at once. Heel striking leads to injuries too and takes a lot more effort. Lisa on here had chronic knee problems and was told never to run again from a Doctor and then she stopped heel striking and she is a different gal now. It's good you are getting in the proper form early!! It took me about 2 years, and when I finally made the switch is when my pace started dropping. When I am tired I lose proper form and notice I still will heel strike (and knee pain will start), it's something I have to be mindful of all the time.

DiZ NeE 08
12-14-2011, 08:48 AM
Wow rozzie that is crazy! when I went to the running store I was looking for something like dg around 108. The newtons felt pretty good while running on the treadmill but walking on them gave me pain. When I saw the price tag I was like wow buddy! But thank you for letting me know...

The good thing is that now I know I need shoes that have slight stability and I like cushion, mucho cushion. Now just to find a shoe that is like that.

DisneyGeek
12-14-2011, 01:22 PM
Diz- I'm about 5' 10".

In spring 2008 (or was it '09?) I topped out @ 303.5 pounds and was stage 2 of 5 to liver failure. Decided that didn't sound fun, esp at 33 years old so I started changing diet & began exercising. I managed to get as low as 214.0 on two seperate days, last time in mid-Aug 2010. Best race of my life was April 2011 @ ~225 #.

I need to get these headache & sleep issues worked out. I'm convinced that will help w/ energy, alertness, motivation & general health. Then I'll get back to fewer missed exercise days & meet my current goal of getting down to & maintaining 200 pounds flat. At that point I want a BodPod body fat analysys (and/or DEXA scan) to see if it is a healthy weight for me despite what BMI charts (which I hate & think are wayyyyy oversimplified / averaged) say I should be.

More immediate goals: Not gain much more wait through holidays & finish marathon alive! ;)

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DisneyGeek
12-14-2011, 01:28 PM
PS- That $108 comes from $100 plus tax in case anyone found it an odd number.

Reguarding other activities: I plan to annually buy 3 pairs of lower end "running shoes" to just walk/around in when not exercising in addition to 2 pairs of "casual" non-athletic shoes to where to work Mon-Thurs. I can & do wear running shoes on Fridays! On the elliptical I use the most recently retired pair of treadmill shoes I have...

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DiZ NeE 08
12-14-2011, 02:45 PM
PS- That $108 comes from $100 plus tax in case anyone found it an odd number.

Reguarding other activities: I plan to annually buy 3 pairs of lower end "running shoes" to just walk/around in when not exercising in addition to 2 pairs of "casual" non-athletic shoes to where to work Mon-Thurs. I can & do wear running shoes on Fridays! On the elliptical I use the most recently retired pair of treadmill shoes I have...

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I guessed that the $108 would be like 99.99 with taxes added to it, because I was calculating the same. I have thought about buying new "running" shoes for what you buy them for every year but I never have the money. I have had steve madden shoes that I saved up for that I use for getting dressed up.

I have been wondering if I should change the nike shoes that I use for running already since I use them for everything! or just see if I can find the same shoes, buy them and a different colored shoe lace so that I can differentiate the old with the new ones by a quick glance!


Diz- I'm about 5' 10".

In spring 2008 (or was it '09?) I topped out @ 303.5 pounds and was stage 2 of 5 to liver failure. Decided that didn't sound fun, esp at 33 years old so I started changing diet & began exercising. I managed to get as low as 214.0 on two seperate days, last time in mid-Aug 2010. Best race of my life was April 2011 @ ~225 #.

I need to get these headache & sleep issues worked out. I'm convinced that will help w/ energy, alertness, motivation & general health. Then I'll get back to fewer missed exercise days & meet my current goal of getting down to & maintaining 200 pounds flat. At that point I want a BodPod body fat analysys (and/or DEXA scan) to see if it is a healthy weight for me despite what BMI charts (which I hate & think are wayyyyy oversimplified / averaged) say I should be.

More immediate goals: Not gain much more wait through holidays & finish marathon alive! ;)

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Wow DG you have come a long way! That deserves a HUGE congratulations and a drink or somehting. lol! I have to get more sleep into my schedule, I tend to go crazy when I prevent myself from getting the correct amount of sleep and enough energy as I barely even have time to go buy stuff at times. mostly because tomorrow is my Paramedic 1 lab final and I have been studying Day - Night, Night-Day!!! but wow! I was once in the same situation but when I was 11... I lost A LOT of weight quickly thanks to puberty helping me out but I was always in the hospital and so on and so forth. don't really like to talk about it!

We have to meet up some time DG!!! I definitely have to have a drink with you!

I also have been controlling myself mostly since I work at cracker barrel which is no where near healthy for me. lol! I hope to keep running and maybe one day run a marathon with all of you!

Good luck on the marathon, when it happens of course!

DisneyGeek
12-14-2011, 04:14 PM
Diz- Thanks & I hope we do get to meet face to face sometime! Assuming they have one I hope to do Everest Challenge in 1.5 years (2013); maybe you & some more of the Peacocks could also make it!!!

If you know u like those shoes I'd but another pair and set aside the new ones for running. Funny you mention laces; I asked my parents for a second pair of Brooks Adrenaline GTS 12 shoes for Christmas and am planning to get some different laces to color code them! :)

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DiZ NeE 08
12-14-2011, 08:53 PM
I am going to go to the nike outlet asap and see if they have them still...

Thanks to you I found that everest challenge and really really catches my eyes!

cloudnut220
12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
Well, I didn't manage to run Tuesday morning before our flight, but I did run when we got home. And then I got my miles in last night as well. So the training is back to normal except for one thing...I'm in week 2 of a horrendous tendonitis flare. This is the same spot in my right leg that always bothers me (hurts when I get up after sitting for a while, hurts when I start running, etc). I've been doing the bone test and there's no sensitivity on the bone, it's all just to the inside. So I'm guessing I'm okay to keep running, but I'm concerned about doing my back to back LRs this weekend. I've been doing my shorter run first then the longer run, but I'm wondering if I should switch it in case I have to bag the longer of the two. This is discouraging, since this hadn't bothered me like this in SO LONG (since late spring). I've changed out my shoes and I'm icing, rolling, and sleeping in my compression socks. :angry:

DiZ NeE 08
12-15-2011, 08:10 AM
CN - hope that tendonitis/pain goes away quickly! ice and heat works magic "sometimes". By the way CN I was looking at the 990square website and it is a blog, right? Love the pictures and the pages you have there! My family are not sports people so I never ran or did much physical stuff in high school unless I had to. My family is shocked that I am running this much!

I have AMAZING news!!! first let me start out by saying that last night I worked until 10, got home, took a bath and went to bed. I woke up at 5 as I knew I was going to be anxious for my Paramedic 1 final. I ran 4 miles as I needed to take a bath, make breakfast and get ready for school.

I took my Paramedic 1 final about 30 minutes ago and I passed it with a 97%. I just wanted to thank you all for posting here and answering all of my question even if some were stupid at times. lol! I have noticed why I have been so motivated to run. I have time alone, time to think and gets me concentrated! I really want to thank you all for the advice you have all written and even though you might not see it you all are my motivation also!

sorry if I sound a little sentimental as I have been spending sooo much time studying for this final and I have passed it. now to go have a drink!!! lol!

DisneyGeek
12-15-2011, 11:11 AM
CN- Hope you feel better soon!

Diz- Congrats on passing!!!

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cloudnut220
12-15-2011, 12:36 PM
WTG with passing Diz!

Rozzie
12-15-2011, 02:36 PM
Beth, take care of it! At this point we are getting too close to push through things. I know I took a unscheduled day off because my legs are still heavy and hamstring weird still after the race Sat. (surely it's not the race and all the extra bread and home baked goodies past couple days)

Congrats Diz! Must be a great feeling. :goodvibes:

nono
12-15-2011, 08:09 PM
WTG Diz!

Did 2.25 miles with Renee early this evening before dinner, then did 2900 yards in the pool with the Masters folks tonight. I'm tired!

DiZ NeE 08
12-15-2011, 09:07 PM
Thank you everybody! it is such a relief to be done with the first semester of paramedics... Then on january 5th I start paramedics 2. Woot woot!

cyl-e
12-16-2011, 10:12 AM
Diz - congratulations on the paramedics exam - that is awesome!
And DG - I never knew your backstory - really impresses me what you've done already

So - how do you transition from a heel strike to a fore-foot strike? I'm interested, but not sure how to go about doing it.

cloudnut220
12-16-2011, 10:13 AM
Beth, take care of it! At this point we are getting too close to push through things. I know I took a unscheduled day off because my legs are still heavy and hamstring weird still after the race Sat. (surely it's not the race and all the extra bread and home baked goodies past couple days)

Congrats Diz! Must be a great feeling. :goodvibes:

I would really have like another strong back to back LR. Oh well. I'm figuring I did 4 (and probably actually 5 if I count the run from last Saturday plus all of that crazy Disney walking I did on Sunday), with the longest combo being 9 in a race and then 7 the next day. Not really what I would have wanted, but I also don't want to have a screaming tendon for the Sunday portion of the race either.

We saw the Lion King last night as part of our Broadway Across America season ticket package. It was pretty good, but the only part of it that really blew me away was the song "He Lives in You", which was really moving. It was definitely funny how many of the performers had worked at WDW.

Also, I've put an Osborne Lights video on the blog today http://www.990square.com/2011/12/holiday-good-cheer/

DisneyGeek
12-16-2011, 12:02 PM
Nice nono!

Thanks cyl!

GL CN; I think you'll be fine w/ all you've done already. Need to try & remember to check out your video from home sometime soon!

Much less of a headache this morning than I've had the past week; I'm happy for that. Bad week for amount of exercise & diet, but I'll bounce back and try get back on track in both areas tomorrow! (Don't ask what or how much I ate @ today's quarterly employee appreciation lunch here @ work!)

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cloudnut220
12-16-2011, 12:10 PM
DG, did you ever see the whole Magic and Merriment TR? It photo central over there :-)

Rozzie
12-16-2011, 03:28 PM
The big weekend is here! 6 miles speedwork today, 7 tomorrow, and 20 Sunday. Yeah, shaved 2 miles off Sat from original plan. Also on call and working all weekend. If I can get through this weekend walking and remembering my name I will call it a success. :silly:

Cyle. 2 words. Matt Fitzgerald. :p His Brain Train book me radically changed my running style. You can also find a Chi running clinic, or even some Nike Frees. It is very hard to heel strike in light uncushioned shoes.

DiZ NeE 08
12-16-2011, 04:25 PM
I went to the nike store today and bought myself a new pair of my shoes but they werent moto 6 anymore they were moto 8. Lol! I looked at the frees but didnt like the cushioning in it. so I stuck to my gut.

nono
12-16-2011, 04:43 PM
G/L with the weekend plans, Rozzie! I'm staring down 17 tomorrow morning. Plotted the route. Hope it works out!

Rozzie
12-16-2011, 09:07 PM
G/L with the weekend plans, Rozzie! I'm staring down 17 tomorrow morning. Plotted the route. Hope it works out!

Somehow we will all survive this training cycle! Come hell or high water. I'll just be glad when the race is over and the partying can begin. :biggulp:

nono
12-17-2011, 04:02 AM
Well, I survived the night wearing a surgical mask (actually pretty comfy to sleep in...) :confused:

DD needed me to sack out with her, and she's sick. Hacking up a lung sick. And turning towards Mom at the same time. I came out of it with only one sore tonsil. That's a go sign to me! Renee's up and I'm eating. I love late day sunrises. Hope we catch a good one out there!

Best of luck to everyone this weekend as we log the miles! (Esp. you CN!!! :hug1:)

Rozzie
12-17-2011, 04:46 AM
Cut my 7 down to 5 this morning. Long night day yesterday, emergency cases, blah blah blah. Legs and body are hating life, but worries me the most is my Achilees has now decided it wants attention. Icing now, about to KT tape before I head to work. I figure it's too late to push now, if in my LR tomorrow it hurts I will just stop. Come back next week for a hard 16/18. Maybe I'll be doing the Hanson marathon program sooner than I thought!

Happy HEALTHY running to everyone this weekend! MG, are you do 20 this weekend? Good luck!! You can do it!

cloudnut220
12-17-2011, 06:06 AM
Somehow we will all survive this training cycle! Come hell or high water. I'll just be glad when the race is over and the partying can begin. :biggulp:

I wish everyone was closer. Then we could have a pre-marathon party tonight at the Ratskellar Holiday party. The only problem is the menu is LESS than waistline friendly. cookies, cake and homemade marshmallows!;)

Thank you nono! I'm going to try to do 10 today. The inflammation is down this morning, despite a lot of time on my feet baking and cleaning last night.

Rozzie
12-17-2011, 06:56 AM
Nono forgot to add, hope D is feeling better! (And u too!)

GL Beth!

cloudnut220
12-17-2011, 07:20 AM
Yes, nonette needs to get better in a hurry! how is she going to keep up with Mr. 20 otherwise?

nono
12-17-2011, 09:12 AM
Yes, nonette needs to get better in a hurry! how is she going to keep up with Mr. 20 otherwise?

Oh heck, I plan on her being way better by then. Right now, I'm trying to get her straight for the Christmas Pageant at church tomorrow morning! :oweye: The clan picked up Renee along the causeway at about 10 1/2 miles (she's still building miles after the long, warm fall). Oh the moaning I heard from the kids! So, I know they are not at 100% -- normally they love crewing for me. Luckily, Mr. Nono was in great shape and said just the right things to keep me going ("Hey, I'll pick up bagels!"). So, 17 miles in 3:14. Yeah. Wicked slow. I'm frozen solid now, so I'm going to crash on the floor for a bit, then get up and do a little slideboarding then get cleaned up for the day. We have two trees to decorate!!!!

cloudnut220
12-17-2011, 12:03 PM
10 miles done. And as a bonus it was COLD today so I got to wear my CWX tights for the first time this season and man, what a difference they made. So I think I'm going to try running in the Zensah socks (since it looks like there MAY be a blowtorch for the east coast in early January on the long range forecasts I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it's going to be WAY too warm for CWX at Disney) and see how that goes. And if it goes well Santa may bring me a second pair!

Rozzie
12-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Nice job Nono and Beth!! I am wicked jealous. Mine still looming ahead. Just got off work and stopped by restaurant to get a veggie lasagna. Taking the DG way and try to simulate my race here for my 20 as much as I can since I had such fueling issues. (We are going to bring a pan of it for the villa for pre race easy munching) now all I need is a new achilees by 0400 tomorrow....mmmnn. I really do. Hate these huge runs on call where I basically have to run in a circle in the middle of the night.

nono
12-17-2011, 12:49 PM
Well Roz, if it is any consolation, I felt my foot rip in two (in the bad spot) at about 12:96 miles...then it died off, and now it's not happy, but no swelling or bruising. You know, we've talked about how Disney's Marathon is perfect for the time when one can't lay down a great time....so if that's the way it is, let's go have some fun out there! :hug1:

CN, glad you got through it!!!!

cyl-e
12-17-2011, 02:49 PM
Did 14
Getting really hard to motivate myself for these long runs...not sure if it's the cold or distance or both. Luckily this is my last really long run before the relay! But boy is my body complaining. My left knee starts hurting around mile 7, outside of the knee. I tried focusing on landing mid foot and that did seem to help a little. My legs just felt heavy and tired. The course I run is extremely hilly, so I don't worry about time much, but did I feel slow. At one point, almost felt my left knee/leg give out on me. But I held it together to finish. Took some Advil. Feel ok now, both knees just a bit creaky, particularly not happy about walking down stairs. Hopefully my left knee will hold up until after the races.
Congrats on everyone else's long runs!

nono
12-17-2011, 03:46 PM
Hey, CN, you visiting over the holidays?? I just pulled out the stockings, and ds said, "What are those for?" indicating a couple extras we have. I told him it was for when people visit during the holidays. Without missing a beat he said, "You mean like Mrs. 5 and Mr. 20?" :goodvibes::goodvibes::goodvibes: Sooooo, let me know if I should be hanging up your stockings..... :)

Rozzie
12-17-2011, 07:04 PM
Hey, CN, you visiting over the holidays?? I just pulled out the stockings, and ds said, "What are those for?" indicating a couple extras we have. I told him it was for when people visit during the holidays. Without missing a beat he said, "You mean like Mrs. 5 and Mr. 20?" :goodvibes::goodvibes::goodvibes: Sooooo, let me know if I should be hanging up your stockings..... :)

That's like the cutest thing ever. :goodvibes:

DiZ NeE 08
12-18-2011, 04:29 AM
Lol! Thats cool nono!

Cyl-e - congrats on the 14. Good luck!

I ran 5 miles yesterday about 1hr before going to work but I didnt consider all the pain my new pair of shoes would cause. I am in some leg discomfort now as I havent been able to rest. I worked from 3-1130 went to sleep now im at royal caribbean from 630 -2 and then cracker barrel 3-10 hopefully I get out by 1030 tonight!

cloudnut220
12-18-2011, 08:18 AM
Hey, CN, you visiting over the holidays?? I just pulled out the stockings, and ds said, "What are those for?" indicating a couple extras we have. I told him it was for when people visit during the holidays. Without missing a beat he said, "You mean like Mrs. 5 and Mr. 20?" :goodvibes::goodvibes::goodvibes: Sooooo, let me know if I should be hanging up your stockings..... :)

Where is my helicopter when I need it? I would love to drop in (and we're going to be in DE)! But that ferry is too slow! Although I do need to ride it before March, since it was on my 30 before 30 list. And I'm going to be the big 3-0 three months from yesterday. YIKES! :scared07:

Another Ratskellar Holiday party on the books and it was a pretty successful one if you ask me! This was our seventh year hosting the party and I think we've finally got it all figured out. Now two weeks to recover before we host new years! I'm feeling pretty good this morning (although a little sleep deprived since our niece stayed with us and she had a hard time going to sleep) so I think I might try a short run. It seems like the compression socks really worked. Although I may have left my recovery/cleaning outfit on a bit too long--a few people caught me in my black shorts/black long sleeve/hot pink compression socks combo. :blush:

Rozzie
12-18-2011, 10:59 AM
Holy crap Beth! You mean wearing the hot pink compression socks 24/7 is frowned upon by the non running society? Fooey with em' I say, let us wear em' and be proud!! :p Heck I have lived in mine the past 48 hours. They do make a difference with me right now. I was sitting one day this week trying to figure out the common thread between Goofy and AF--and both races I was wearing compression. So I am not saying that is why crap hit the fan in AC, but it is interesting that I was not wearing them. I do wear them everynight to bed in the winter, but now I am living in them. I do think I might order a white pair, a new pair that is tight (they use their umphh with so much use--get stretched out) and maybe not stand out so much in the race in Jan. I don't like any attention drawn to myself, and will already have plenty as I plan on wearing my exposers even though I am still too heavy for them. They are the only shorts that don't chafe me and people are just going to get a free show. :blush:

So the 20 miler went nice this morning! I don't know what to do, as I don't think I ever felt okay on one. I took the first 10 miles real conservative, and hit the last 8 kinda hard. Achilees and arch of foot started hurting only during last mile--and it was minor. Fueling went well too. 2 gels, and about 12 ounces of water total. Now however everything hurts of course. Whole body tight and is achy. Now that is more normal LOL. Wearing my Cwx tights and CEP socks. I look like a compression commercial. :silly: Just glad it is done. It was the biggest monkey on my back. Just have 16 and 13/14ish left. Let taper madness begin. I am even more happy that it's my last training 20 for over a year. I am ready to put this marathon monster to bed for a year. ;-)

nono
12-18-2011, 03:50 PM
Taking a short break from the all-day party that is my ds's birthday...and I still have 1 meal left to go! :sick: I feel like that guy in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life...

Just 2 walking miles and 15 minutes of slideboarding today. I'm toast. Foot is killing me, yada yada yada. I hope it doesn't come off in FL! Now that would be gross, but totally funny too!

10 split in two on tap for tomorrow. And lots of chores I didn't get to squeeze in today. :oweye:


Nice work on the 20 Roz!

cloudnut220
12-18-2011, 06:46 PM
5 miles done today. Not quite what I wanted, but I'm still happy I got it done. I've been really bad about proper fueling/watering this weekend, and I really felt it during the two runs this weekend. OOF. A good lesson that I need to drink a ton of water at WDW!

nono
12-19-2011, 03:23 PM
6 somewhat painful miles this morning mitigated by the fact that Renee and I made it to the boardwalk before the sun peaked over the Atlantic. No marine layer, so pure, dead-on beautiful sunrise. Now, I'm hydrating to attempt my remaining 4 miles. Gotta go outside. Need some fresh air, just hope my old joints hang in for a bit longer!

mickeyndvcfan
12-19-2011, 04:14 PM
Finished my 20 miles today. So glad that is over with now. Few blisters and my knee was talking a bit during cool down walk but is feeling better now.

nono
12-19-2011, 05:07 PM
YEA GAIL!!!!!!!! You da woman!!!!:yahoo:


On my trip upstairs to get ready to go out to run again, I had my hip pain flare, and my foot make that split feeling like it did on the road on Sat. I talked some sense into myself and flopped the 4 for a workout later in the week: 2 walking miles and 15 min. of slideboarding. I hope my foot appreciates this, 'cause my lungs are bumming.

Rozzie
12-19-2011, 05:16 PM
Whooohooo Mama G! Nothing feels like that first 20. I remember the feeling quite well, it was a great feeling for sure.

Nono, geepers! What do we need to do to get you healed up? You have a much better attitude than I would have.

Got a lower leg massage today just on my achilees and calves, and arches. Seems my right lower leg it trying hard to develop something nasty. Plantar vs Achilees--well really they are all connected. The weirdness in my arch this past few months was not just "weirdness"....We are ahead of the game thank goodness and both feel we stopped it in its tracks. Its great to have a massage guru who learns your leg inside out and feels when something is different--not just tight. However, I might have to get a second job. :blush:

withdisneyspirit
12-19-2011, 07:31 PM
Thrilled to report that I got in 19.5 miles on Sunday. I really wanted to do 18 and I let Rick's wanting to do 20 pressure me in my head. I finally said, I'm good with 19 and I am headed back to the car! :goodvibes: I continued to walk/run and it turned out to be 19.5! I was pretty darn tired but feel good today - Yay!! Rick did great and after his 20 had to walk another 1/2 mile to the car... He really wanted the 20 because last year he was sick when the 20 miler came up.

I hope your issues fade away, nono!

Great job on the 20 mile run, Gail!!

cyl-e
12-19-2011, 08:05 PM
Great job Lisa and Gail!
Congrats on those wonderful long runs

Rozzie
12-20-2011, 04:47 AM
I knew Rick and Mr Roz got along for a reason! That so sounds like something he would do. Congrats to you both Lisa! I am so looking forward to seeing you both. :goodvibes:

nono
12-20-2011, 05:51 AM
Guys, don't worry about me. I'm just tightrope walking here. My bod is just out-of-sync! Matt and Brad talk about that a bit in Run Faster...my aerobic capacity is so much better than where I was when I started running in 2006, esp. with a year's worth of swimming now. And, it doesn't seem to get phased much by carrying around the extra weight. But hoo boy, my muscular/skeletal system sure notices the difference. :grin:

jrbdad
12-20-2011, 06:01 AM
Just checking in -- been lurking. Love following along and I continue to learn so much from all of you. Thank you.

My mileage is down to about 10 per week -- this may be were I stay, but I've decided that's OK. Ran 3 miles on Sunday and pulled a calf muscle -- that was a first. Thought I'd been shot in the leg. Walked a little while then hobbled on home. It's still tight, but better.

Have kept up with my weight training at least 4 days per week.

We are headed to WDW tomorrow. Should be there Thursday afternoon. Staying offsite for the first several nights to save some cash (out of points), but will be at Kidani the day after Christmas. Have BIL & family staying with us and DD10 has her best friend and her parents staying the same time also at Kidani (long story).

If I don't get to check-in again -- Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Blessed Holidays to you all.

cloudnut220
12-20-2011, 07:37 AM
Congrats Lisa and MG!!

John, have an awesome trip! Merry Christmas to you!

DiZ NeE 08
12-20-2011, 10:44 AM
Sweet!!! everyone is making it along! congrats to everyone with making their goals although a bit of pain and soreness.

a few days a go I did 5 miles before work which I worked A LOT. that night when I got home I had immense calf pain/soreness it kind of hurts but feels like soreness. I woke up an hr ago as I worked until late last night and I woke up with the pain/soreness again. I have put Icy/hot on it as I haven't been able to put ice on it. I am really scared as I have gotten so far in running and now this happens to me, ahhhhhh!!!!! I hope someone has had experience with this as all I found was stuff online. All I read online is that I pushed myself passed my limit and could have hurt it, but I ran the 5 miles and felt great after so it has to have been only the 30 minutes rest until work and then an 8hr shift. I don't work today and I have a HUGE itch to go running but I am so scared to go running and messing myself up. I have no health insurance so I can't go to a doctor for this kind of stuff.

nono
12-20-2011, 04:59 PM
Whipped off 9 miles this afternoon. Decided to move my 20 miler from Friday to Thursday, and then follow it up with a very cold swim on Thursday night as the heater at the pool is broken. Talk about a brick. If I live...:oweye:

withdisneyspirit
12-20-2011, 05:19 PM
Guys, don't worry about me. I'm just tightrope walking here. My bod is just out-of-sync! Matt and Brad talk about that a bit in Run Faster...my aerobic capacity is so much better than where I was when I started running in 2006, esp. with a year's worth of swimming now. And, it doesn't seem to get phased much by carrying around the extra weight. But hoo boy, my muscular/skeletal system sure notices the difference. :grin:

Sad to say I am still toting around an extra 20 and boy my skeletal system sure notices too! Menopause stinks and my eating needs to get cut way back, esp. carbs! :eating::grin:

Feeling very good today physically even before a great sports massage!

Rozzie
12-20-2011, 07:27 PM
Diz, just take a few days off. Ice a lot. These things happen a lot when we first start out running. No worries, things will work out.

Speaking of eating, ughhh. I am going to need a crane to carry me to the start. :blech:

GL Nono! :fingerscrossed:

Have a great trip John!!

Lisa, glad to see you are doing okay after big run!

jrbdad
12-20-2011, 08:02 PM
Thanks Roz - I'll honk & wave on the way by :).

Rozzie
12-21-2011, 04:44 AM
Thanks Roz - I'll honk & wave on the way by :).

If 1-10 tunnel is backed up, or wreck on bayway-- take the causeway (Battleship Pkwy). That tunnel congestion is INSANE! Crossing my fingers you are smooth sailing through the armpit. :fingerscrossed:

jrbdad
12-21-2011, 05:14 AM
If 1-10 tunnel is backed up, or wreck on bayway-- take the causeway (Battleship Pkwy). That tunnel congestion is INSANE! Crossing my fingers you are smooth sailing through the armpit. :fingerscrossed:

Thanks -- I remember the two hours we waited to get through last summer. :oweye: But then again, we weren't real bright planning that drive on the weekend of the 4th of July. I'm hoping to be there just past rush hour traffic tonight.

nono
12-21-2011, 08:43 AM
I am not behind on executing on the master list. That is all.

:woohoodance:

Oh, and Renee after our run the other day:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/nono_33/IMG_0576.jpg

cloudnut220
12-21-2011, 08:47 AM
Well, I wish I had something happy to report. I did an exciting elliptical workout last night instead of my run. Now I'm trying to decide if I should do elliptical workouts between now and WDW, or if I should still go for my long runs. Not running kills me. I get so depressed about it. But on the flip side, I would like to be pain free going into WDW, and two weeks without pounding might do it. I'm worried with how persistent the pain seems to be this time, with no amount of icing and rolling seeming to bring any relief (as it has in the past). I'm still not getting pain when I push on the bone in the area (which from previous Dr. visits would be what I should expect if I actually had a stress fracture, not a tendon issue) but then tendon is so sore. I'm just so discouraged. I know I've been here before, but I wanted so badly to go into WDW strong, and I was so careful with my mileage, and just when I wanted to feel awesome, this comes up AGAIN.

And the other truth is that the double at WDW in January wasn't actually my end goal. I may have already moved my sights to fulfilling a big life goal on March 18--running a full marathon. And I don't know if that's going to be possible, if I take a longer break now and miss some LRs. And that's what's really killing me. It's not too late to back out of the marathon, but this was going to be the time I actually DID IT and I had already laid out some cash to commit myself. :boohoohoo:

jrbdad
12-21-2011, 08:55 AM
I am not behind on executing on the master list. That is all.

:woohoodance:

Oh, and Renee after our run the other day:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/nono_33/IMG_0576.jpg

Love it!

Beth - hope you feel better & heal quickly. That goes for all the Peacocks.

cloudnut220
12-21-2011, 09:48 AM
And the big RunDisney announcement is...

ToT is back as a 10 miler. It's taking the current Wine and Dine weekend (Sept 29) and they're moving in to November 9-10. Bad move RD, after you announce the dates.

DiZ NeE 08
12-21-2011, 10:03 AM
Have they announced if the expedition everest race is going to happen again?

cloudnut220
12-21-2011, 10:09 AM
Yes, EE is back in Early May and registration is open.

DiZ NeE 08
12-21-2011, 10:13 AM
Sweet, Thank you CN! I will have to register as soon as I get home!

I was just looking at the new shoes that I bought and from running the 5 miles that I did to try to break them in. some of the pegs are already worn off a bit, man this sucks! it's minimal wear but about 3 pegs are worn out about.

sorry just had to vent a bit. lol!

Rozzie
12-21-2011, 01:54 PM
That is the most gosh darn cutest pic EVER! I just want to box her up and ship her to Alabama. :goodvibes:

Beth, those are hard decisions. One of those that whatever you decide you will probably second guess yourself. (or I would) If you really want to do your Full, I would let that be your goal and treat Jan as some good old fashioned endurance workouts. Do another week of elliptical and reevaluate. If all you want to do is finish a marathon, with walking, then you could probably squeeze that out with only a couple of LRs in Feb. I hate you are dealing with this! I am expecting crap to hit my fan too. I cut a short workout today as I felt something weird in my foot/toe area. It feels fine now but I am just almost lunatic crazy about getting injured right before. I can't remember the last big race I went into where I was not nursing something. Just once I want a healthy 100% start! I think we have all been in the injury boat before, but you and Nono both deserve some heathly days too!!

As for the new race, I guess I need to make decisons quick. Back when it was the W&D on the orginal date I was set to go. My brother started running, is doing quite well and really wants to do a Disney race with me and we had both penciled this date in. Now I am not sure how he would feel about a 10 miler--he had heart set on a HM. Mmmn. Novemeber is such a prettier more comfortable time to race in--and a much better time for us to since we will be out of hurricane season. But MG's bday is in Sept and I would hate to miss that too. Certainly can't afford to do both.

What is everybody else thinking?

cloudnut220
12-21-2011, 02:07 PM
Thanks Roz. I was already (in my brain) treating January as some good long endurance workouts. I wasn't planning to race either day, just to finish with a reasonable time (something in the 2.10 to 2.15 range each day would be awesome). I want to finish my marathon strong and in under 5 hours with no walking, so as soon as I made the decision to do it, that, not January, really became my goal. I would rather walk on during the relay at WDW than during my marathon. This inflammation has always flared up then calmed down on its own. It seems like it's hanging around longer this time...or maybe my memory is just warped :)

cloudnut220
12-21-2011, 02:10 PM
As for Wine and Dine, the only way I was going to get to do that race was if my sister scheduled her Wedding right. We're still waiting for the date for that (she can schedule it next month!!) so I'll have to hold off on any decisions until after that. I'm in the NYC Marathon pre-lottery, so if by some miracle I made it into NYC, I would be running that November 4, 2012, making any W&D VERY unlikely :D

Rozzie
12-21-2011, 02:49 PM
As for Wine and Dine, the only way I was going to get to do that race was if my sister scheduled her Wedding right. We're still waiting for the date for that (she can schedule it next month!!) so I'll have to hold off on any decisions until after that. I'm in the NYC Marathon pre-lottery, so if by some miracle I made it into NYC, I would be running that November 4, 2012, making any W&D VERY unlikely :D

I would be so JEALOUS! I need to get my arse in the lottery and quit talking about it, just do it.

Mr Roz just called and is super giddy about the ToT returning. He is pushing for that race. So more than likely we will be there. Now to figure out DVC...and pin brother down. Ugh.

Mr. Roz
12-21-2011, 03:20 PM
It HAS to be better than the 13k. Besides we don't have to many chances to do a 10 miler. September would fall in line for a good time trial for the Kyser half in November or the Holiday half in December.and it would be another great reason to see everyone.

nono
12-21-2011, 03:32 PM
IF you get the itch for a 10 mile race before that, don't forget the Ocean Drive Marathon companion event. It's a 10 miler that runs from in front of Congress Hall in Cape May to the end of the Wildwood boardwalk. Just sayin...

cyl-e
12-21-2011, 04:22 PM
So - I have to say that both DH and I were really disappointed in the announcement today. We have really enjoyed doing the Wine & Dine and staying afterward to enjoy the Food & Wine festival. We had, in fact, already booked our DVC ressies for next year b/c they listed the dates for next year's Food & Wine in this year's program (and in the recent marathon program). Now - we don't know what we'll do. It's really disappointing.
The new date - is not a real good time for us - curling season starts in mid-October - so it would interfere with that if either of us is focusing on curling. Also - coming at the end of Food & Wine - if you wanted to enjoy Food & Wine, you'd have to do your eating the week before the race - just not my ideal. I strongly prefer doing the race first - so I don't tire my legs walking all over WDW and eat crazy amounts of rich food...
Yes - I know - we could do the Tower race, but whether this is rational or not - it's just not as appealing to me. 10 miles vs. half marathon. Tower theme vs. Wine & Dine. Nothing against the Tower race - we had some interest in it when it was around before.

So - can anyone tell me why the Tower race is so "good" - people do seem excited about it. But I'm really bummed right now and DH and I are sitting here scratching our heads about what to do with our vacation for next year...

Rozzie
12-21-2011, 06:00 PM
Cyle, I answered you on ROTE too. ;) I'll go into more detail here.

The first year I ran ToT the race was freakin' awesome. I talked it up and talked it up and we got a group of us to go down for the next one. OMG, RunDisney totally just pulled up on the race and turned it 180. Just a cheesy bunch of crap. I was embarrassed as I even talked one of my Docs at work into driving down for it. :blush: So to answer your question, it will be either super cool or lame-o. Since it's a inaugural event I expect some kinks, but not as many as it should be same set up as prior races there. I would put money on it being cool again as Disney wants to market it well. As for the 10 mile distance, I have never done a 10miler but I am intrigued on the distance. I will probably try to do a 10K pace for it and see where I land--so I will like to have something to train for fast but endurance level too. Something new for me to help the burnout I am kinda going through. I am kinda :confused24: that they didn't make it a half. I mean "13" and all. Maybe the 10 mile race is something "different" that people will want to do both, not sure.

As for the week before, OMG, we did that one year prior to ToT. NEVER AGAIN. I was so hungover and fat by the time the race rolled around I about gagged the entire time. I think it was my worst race ever. I was so off on my time goal I have blocked it out of my memory. :blech:

Saying all that this whole switch-a-roo is classic RunDisney at it's finest. I remember the first year of the Princess and we had a Peacock group all pumped as it was a new course through AK. We throw our money to Disney and they change the course back to the course we all hated. It was a big stink. I still can't get excited about that race ever since they did that. (I am not a fan of the Jan HM course)

I would be disappointed too if I were you. I know there are some folks on ROTE that are upset as they have their DVC ressies down and want to remain "perfect" for W&D but now kinda stuck. Its just weird how they decide to do this at last minute. Well not really last minute but after they printed it up and all! Like I said, Classic RunDisney.

Nono, I'll come up for that 10 miler. I want 45 degree race start and max 10mph wind. :wave: That wind that scares me now. I learned real quick I am a you know what. :p

simbasmom
12-21-2011, 06:32 PM
So is the Tower of Terror Challenge, the 10 mile, in lieu of the Wine and Dine half-marathon in 2012 since it's the same weekend, or is the W&D a different weekend in 2012? Although I THINK that for Guy, the 2011 Wine and Dine half-marathon, although he loved it and finished well,isn't in his plans next year.
On a related note, though, is anyone planning on the Goofy Challenge (both the half marathon and marathon is what I hear) in January? Guy's already starting his training for it in January 2013. Any tips? And is anyone familiar with what's "affectionately" called the Dopey Challenge that weekend? If you know about it, that's his idea of a good time. If you're not familiar with it, maybe you'd like to try it.

withdisneyspirit
12-21-2011, 06:35 PM
I also found it quite surprising that they would change this after announcing the wine and dine dates. They sure don't seem to understand DVC! That said, I would probably like the TOT 10 miler also. Wine & Dine has not been our favorite race even though we have done both. They just start it too late and this year they put us way back from the party. When you are slow, you don't really have party time :(

A mute point for us on either race as we have a family trip (everyone - almost 30 people) and we are going at Thanksgiving!!

cloudnut220
12-21-2011, 07:03 PM
Just finished the Team surprise for the dinner! While watching the Once Pilot. Interesting.

did my time on the ellip tonight. Shoot me now I have to ride it for an hour and half on Saturday :blech:

cyl-e
12-21-2011, 07:13 PM
Thanks Rozzie -
What made it so awesome the first year and so lame-o the second?

Simbasmom - they moved the Wine & Dine to a later date (Nov 9-10)

Withdisneyspirit - I think ToT is going to start late also - so I'm not sure there's much difference there...

Wanted to keep the tradition of Wine & Dine going - but don't want to do Food & Wine before it - and, Rozzie, your post convinces me more so - that's exactly what I was thinking. Either I'll spend the whole week not enjoying the food being good for the race - or I'll (more likely) enjoy myself and then be a plodding butterball...

Didn't know that this was par for the course for RunDisney - making me less excited about their races. We were just thinking about doing Everest too - but now are a bit down on it all... It's possible we'll end up doing Tower anyway...we already have reservations for then. But I'd really like a half in the fall, not just a 10 miler.

nono
12-21-2011, 07:15 PM
Nono, I'll come up for that 10 miler. I want 45 degree race start and max 10mph wind. :wave: That wind that scares me now. I learned real quick I am a you know what. :p

45 F is likely. However, headwinds will likely be more like 25-30 mph. Maybe snow flurries. Etc. One year, just one, there was a southerly wind. That was a good year! Problem is now even this race sells out in advance! :boohoohoo:

Rozzie
12-21-2011, 07:59 PM
I guess I need to get on the horn in the morning and call for a DVC ressie. Going to attempt a THV. :fingerscrossed: My brother and his family are a green light, and now my other brother in NC is coming too. He'll probably stay with his inlaws in Orlando though. I just think it is sooooo cool how my brothers are starting to get serious about running. Not just for the fun for me seeing them, but for their health. My bro in NC is a big tennis player so he's in shape and I suppose healthy--but my brother here really needed to make some lifestyle changes. They are both real excited about the race. I LOVE to see people making positive steps in their life. Especially with our wicked family medical history.

Cyle, the first year I did it they had more special effects and characters. The second year they cut out a lot of the extra fluff. Basically the race was already pulled and they just through it all together half hearted.

Nono, 35mph? :scared07:

Rozzie
12-21-2011, 08:04 PM
Dorothy, I did Goofy last year. This year MM is doing it. I would advise him to get a good base and then go into Hal Higdon's Advanced Marathon plan. It has a schedule with the back-to-backs he might want to do before Goofy. He can always change around some of the days to suit his typical running pattern he is in now. The most important thing with Goofy (I think) is getting miles in, not so much speed. Yeah people do it on less mileage but they are pretty miserable. JMHO. :)

simbasmom
12-21-2011, 08:40 PM
Dorothy, I did Goofy last year. This year MM is doing it. I would advise him to get a good base and then go into Hal Higdon's Advanced Marathon plan. It has a schedule with the back-to-backs he might want to do before Goofy. He can always change around some of the days to suit his typical running pattern he is in now. The most important thing with Goofy (I think) is getting miles in, not so much speed. Yeah people do it on less mileage but they are pretty miserable. JMHO. :)

Glad to hear from someone who's done the Goofy. Guy's a big believer in training for 30 miles before a marathon. And a friend of ours, who also did the Goofy (well, actually the "Dopey"), also said to pretty much forget speed. And the Dopey Challenge is when you do the 5K, half marathon, then the marathon on the 3 consecutive days. I thought it sounded crazy, but Guy thought "fun"!

jrbdad
12-21-2011, 09:50 PM
Roz-

You hear me honk? Tunnel was a breeze and at 5:30 pm? Made it to Tallahassee.

nono
12-22-2011, 03:44 AM
Nono, 35mph? :scared07:


Now, now. That's how rumors get started. I said 25-30 mph.... :grin:

It's a very popular Maniac race. So that tells you something. It's for the crazy! :silly:


Well, I'm up but I'm not getting out there to run just yet. I took my dd upstairs last night for bed, and she asked me to stay. I did, and woke up at 4:15 a.m.! So, I just finished last night's cooking plans, and wrestled her doll house out of the car and upstairs. It's now wrapped and hidden in the closet in "your" room Mr. & Mrs. Roz. I'm having some coffee, chocolate sour cherry bread with blueberry preserves, and waiting until sunrise as Renee is going south with me on the first leg. Since we run along the causeway, I need to be SEEN. It's nice to have a bit of quiet time before the attempt for 20. :thumbsup2:

Rozzie
12-22-2011, 04:54 AM
GL Nono! It's great you got Renee to keep you company. :thumbsup2:

Dorothy, the one thing that kept me from doing Dopey is that #1, the 5K is not a timed course. #2, it's against my religion to pay for a non-timed course #3 getting up at 0300 for 3 days in a row. Even though I get up at that time a lot for to run before work, something about doing it down there makes it worse. (Maybe because it's like getting up at 0200 LOL! :idea:) I know a ton of people that do Dopey and have a blast. I am sure Guy will have fun.


I took today off from my 9miler. My foot feels "off". Can't explain it. I think a day at rest will be enough to get it back feeling "on".

nono
12-22-2011, 05:50 AM
Haven't gone out yet, 'cause my son came down while it was way dark out, and we napped on the couch. Now, dd wants to run a mile with me, so that's cool. We're all up and trying to map out everything, and once there's some consensus on timing, I'll go out. Looks to be warm and sunny here, so I hope Renee's up for her 8 mile leg! (Right now, odds are it might be a 7 mi leg, with a 1 mi daughter leg, another 8 miles on my own, then another 4 at the beach with possibly everyone as it is so nice <---- the major reason there's still a discussion about timing going on.)

cloudnut220
12-22-2011, 06:22 AM
Good luck nono!

Way to take a rest day Roz. Like you told me, we need to baby it at the end! And speaking of babying, my leg is feeling MUCH better today.

Roz, if you all are going to be down for ToT I might really try to push my sister to pick that last week in Sept for her wedding. But I also need to pick a weekend to visit AL and the restaurant! And nono, I would totally be in for the 10mi if I was in the country! 10 milers seems to be pretty popular around here...there are more locals 10 milers than halfs it seems! Broad Street Run, Baltimore 10, Annapolis 10, Cherry Blossom, Bottle and Cork are all 10 mile races.

The bad news keeps rolling in around here, just in time for christmas. One friend in the hospital with pregnancy complications, another just lost a baby. A close family friend is really sick and was just given maybe a year to live. And here I am worried about my marathon dreams. I know where you stand is derived from where you sit, but I know that I need some more perspective sometimes.

cyl-e
12-22-2011, 11:21 AM
with the Wine & Dine snafu - now I'm looking at (and getting excited about) potentially doing the Maui Half Marathon - Sep 18. It looks awesome and we've been out to Maui in that timeframe before for a work conference for DH. Haven't talked about it with DH yet - so who knows. And it's a lot more $ to travel to Hawaii rather than WDW.

At least I'm feeling excited again...

nono
12-22-2011, 12:32 PM
A little over 19 miles done. I was getting cold at the end and hauled it home. I have swim team tonight, so I have more torture on tap for later. :scared07:

Rozzie
12-22-2011, 01:12 PM
A little over 19 miles done. I was getting cold at the end and hauled it home. I have swim team tonight, so I have more torture on tap for later. :scared07:

Way to get it done Nono! Wow you are doing a major brick today. Just think of your insane kcal burn today!!!!! Wow! :thumbsup2:

Well I snagged a THV for ToT weekend/week. Should be loads of fun, haven't been to F&W in 2 years now.

cloudnut220
12-22-2011, 02:09 PM
This is a cute runners holiday poem from Brooks

http://brooksrunning.com/on/demandware.static/Sites-BrooksRunning-Site/Sites-BrooksRunning-Library/default/holidaycard/2011/holidaycard2011.html?utm_source=bm23&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Image+-+Happy+Holidays+from+All+of+Us+at+Brooks&utm_content=Image+-+Happy+Holidays+from+All+of+Us+at+Brooks&utm_campaign=2011-12-22+Brooks+Holiday+Hug

WTG Nono!!

nono
12-22-2011, 06:55 PM
2400 yards tonight with 300 of those butterfly, and 250 yards of free, racing the clock and each other. They were trying to kill me! :oweye: I lived to type the tale though! Now, I'm tapering...immediately.

Rozzie
12-22-2011, 07:22 PM
2400 yards tonight with 300 of those butterfly, and 250 yards of free, racing the clock and each other. They were trying to kill me! :oweye: I lived to type the tale though! Now, I'm tapering...immediately.

I really can't imagine!! :silly:

mickeyndvcfan
12-22-2011, 11:22 PM
WooHoo nono!!!!!

nono
12-23-2011, 03:47 AM
4x up and down the stairs this morning after 6 hours sleep. I may need a nap later but the Christmas gifts from Santa are wrapped and stored safely! Biggest job of the day is done.

Now to run a bit, walk a bit, and bake a bit.

withdisneyspirit
12-23-2011, 06:39 AM
Nor can I imagine, nono!! Another big workout on the day of my 19 would have been truly unthinkable. You really are a crazy peacock girl!! Way to go on getting your big run in too. I hope you are feeling well today!

The poem was very cute, CN!!:goodvibes:

Maui sounds like a wonderful place to experience a half marathon :w00t: Hope talks with hubby go well, cyl-e!!

Last night, I made a massive pot of yummy chili! Today will be a frenetic rush of wrapping, cooking and candy making capped by a nice dinner out with all three of my men! :grin: I think it will be something like a LR without as much huffing and puffing maybe, hehe!

withdisneyspirit
12-23-2011, 06:41 AM
4x up and down the stairs this morning after 6 hours sleep. I may need a nap later but the Christmas gifts from Santa are wrapped and stored safely! Biggest job of the day is done.

Now to run a bit, walk a bit, and bake a bit.

Oops, didn't see this! I am doing some of the same later this morning since my sons sleep in - I'm wrapping some of their stuff :D

DiZ NeE 08
12-23-2011, 11:05 AM
hope everyone is doing well, I feel much better from the pain that I had a few days ago. I hope everyone has done their christmas shopping and wrapping, I have! woot woot!

cyl-e
12-23-2011, 08:20 PM
Finally feeling a little better about the whole Wine and Dine thing as we've come up with a few options (Maui is probably not that likely given cost, although it looks incredible)
By I've been in this ridiculous exchange of emails with RunDisney about the change. I keep writing them emails with specific questions and requests and they keep sending back emails that are either form letters or don't answer the question I sent. First, I wanted to know what they would do to help those of us who pre-booked with DVC and borrowed points. All they sent back was a form letter saying to contact DVC. So I did - and DVC was great, they allowed me to reinstate the borrowed points in the year that they came from because the change was due to RunDisney changing the race date.
Then I sent an email asking about C2C. DH was intending to complete his C2C at the 2012 Wine and Dine and had signed up for the Tinkerbell 2012 for that reason only (as I was going to do Tink). Now that he can't, I asked whether they would be able to sprinkle a little Disney magic and award him a C2C at Tink as he did a half on both coasts within 12 months (2011 Wine and Dine and 2012 Tink). I know that this is not their norm, but he would have been able to complete it if they didn't change the dates and he only signed up for Tink to get it. Alternatively, I suggested that they could refund his Tink entry.
They sent me an email reply that just said that he could get a C2C if he does Tink 2012 and Wine and Dine 2012 in November but not Tower 2012 as it is not a half. Duh - tell me something I don't know. It's either that they aren't actually reading my email or are willfully ignoring my questions. I can't figure out how to get a real response and/or talk to someone live, I also can't figure out how to get them to show any concern or compassion or Disney-ness.
Any suggestions? Is there a phone number to call? I could talk to someone when I am at the expo in January, but I am afraid that they will piss me off and then ruin marathon weekend for me.
It just seems like a small thing to do, bend the rules just slightly and give a medal to DH. It doesn't cost them hardly anything and would earn some appreciation from us
Aargh

Rozzie
12-24-2011, 05:50 AM
Happy Birthday John!! Hope you are having a magial bday in the happy place!

Cyle, I do feel for you. I think you won a major victory by getting your points back. Believe me, DVC is not quick to do that. I remember I asked for mercy as my stepdad died 2 days before a trip a few years back and they did not budge. I am happy to see DVC step up and do the right thing. I think your best battle will to get a refund for Tink. I don't see RunDisney granting the medal--as that would open up it up to everyone who got shafted on the C2C. (even though it would be nice Disneyish thing to do) RunDisney is a strange animal for sure, but at the end of the day it is a business. I think it stinks how they changed things around, really crimped a lot of peoples plans.

I do think I remember them offering Nono a refund for her when they changed the course for the Princess late in the game. I don't remember hearing anybody on ROTE getting a refund for the next Princess when they changed the actual date even after the announcement. (I even think registration was opened when they did, or might have dreamed that) I had a real bad taste in my mouth about the course change, and almost wrote off Disney racing from then on. I finally decided that I like combining my two interests/loves/money suckers and I was going to have to just accept anything that RunDisney offers with a grain of salt. Courses will change, dates will probably change again. Heck, this ToT 10 miler might turn into a 1 miler since I am psyhed about racing a 10 miler. I have never run one before and I keep hearing from so many folks how it's their favorite distance. It fits into my plan to concentrate on middle distance this year. (even though its more endurance than true middle distance..anyway I digress...)

If someone would ask my personal opinion, the easiest thing out of this is to treat the 10 miler as a qualifier for C2C. Anyhoo, I sure do something works out for you--somehow, someway!

cloudnut220
12-24-2011, 06:37 AM
cyl-e, I'm glad stuff is working out for you, even if RD is being a pill. Don't be too sad about Maui--I didn't want to say this before, but I read some really mixed race reports after this years race. It sounded like not a great experience for a lot of people.

My leg is feeling about 90 percent. So on Noel's suggestion, I'm going to elliptical a regular length workout today (about 45 minutes) and then try for a LR (well, longish--8 miles or so) on Monday. It will move my schedule around a bit, but I just want to make sure this is really okay. It will also give me a full week off from running (but still keeping it up on the Ellip-I'm wearing my HR monitor to make sure I'm getting in the right range). Hopefully this works out. I HATE NOT RUNNING. I also feel like all of my willpower around food is gone because I'm not running...yuck.

Rozzie
12-24-2011, 08:48 AM
Beth, sounds good to me. My old running coach would talk about taper and always say "the hay is in the barn". Really in taper you are just stacking and rearranging. 2 weeks is what most folks say is the cut off to benefits from hard workouts, as in increasing performance sort of way. (in other words, takes two weeks before benefit shows up physically and physiology) That's the theory anyway. I think it's very WISE what you are doing. Sounds perfect actually. Another day of rest then test it in the LR. I bet things are going to work out just fine for you!

This is my last week of harder longer runs. Did 9 yesterday, 6 miles a little faster today, then 16 tomorrow. Then it's another level down on the taper meter. My foot is still weird but no pain. Just a tightness. My piriformis is being difficult, on both sides no less! That's a new one for me. I have gotten to a point where I expect to feel like sh....ooot during taper. I does mess with me mentally and second guess everything. Then I think, it's only a freaking race! Not the Olympic trials or anything. Not even my last race ever. Just working on my attitude a little.

Merry Christmas Eve to all the Peacocks! Our plans are for me to clean house today, close restaurant at 5pm, go to Mr Roz's aunts in Mobile. Then home to have our traditonal gift exchange and Rosa Regale with bits of good chocolate. I am putting together a overnight bkast casserole for in the morning. Get up, run 16. Drink Kona coffee in my press pot in memory of my Dad. Read paper, be lazy. Watch the Christmas Story. Mom is coming over at 1pm. Dinner is filets, sweet potatoes, and asparagus. I am sure there will be sugar somewhere in there. :p

DisneyGeek
12-24-2011, 10:01 AM
DG, did you ever see the whole Magic and Merriment TR? It photo central over there :-)

Not yet. I kept trying to wait until I had some free time, just like trying to catch up here on this thread. I can't believe and apologize for letting things back up so long for me; I'm 9 days behind!!! :scared07:

I was having lots of problems sleeping with terrible headaches every morning that had been getting worse as I experimented with different treatments for sleep apnea. I'm getting a new oral appliance made (and hoping insurance covers it!) but that is probably not going to be done by the dental lab until sometime while we're in WDW.

I had been using a low end oral device for several months, but it was starting to fail and my Dr.'s think I have been really clenching my teeth at night, causing my headaches. That unit wasn't designed to help with that. I broke out my old CPAP and the full face mask was pushing my jaw and giving me pain from that. Felt like I couldn't win. Thursday night I had my BFF drop off my original nasal mask [I loaned it to him when he first got a CPAP and didn't like his nasal pillows since I was using the full face at that time] and slept a LOT better. Not perfectly, but only a slight headache and not exhausted at least.

More later, need to grab some stuff for DW. We're in Normal, IL visitng her relatives for the holidays... :wave:

DisneyGeek
12-24-2011, 11:15 AM
Oh yeh; don't recall if I posted it, but should anyone be interested my sleep study I had at the begining of the month said I have moderate sleep apnea by my RDI with 64 arousals in a little over 4 hours. Sleep efficency only 65% for the 6+ ours I was in bed attempting to sleep. No wonder I was feeling dead so much of the time. O2 sats weren't too bad. Potential problem: my AHI (full apneas, not just arousals caused by respritory difficulty) was under 4, indicating I have no sleep apnea. From what I could found on my Cigna insurance website they cover treatments based on AHI, not nessecarily RDI. So I'm a bit worried about the costs here; my deductible is met so I'll probably either pay nothing or all of it out of pocket, and I've read of some appliances going as high as $3k. Doc says he can get it covered, sure hope he's right!

These sleep and head problems left me being lazy and I have only exercised formally 4 times or so in the past 2 weeks. Another problem; I went to the track last Sunday to try out my new team shirt I had printed up along with the other cloths & shoes I hope weather will permit me to wear for the full. Sadly, my stomache started bothering me after 1 mile or so of intervals. Started walking trying to maintain 16 min pace since that is sweep speed. About 2.5 miles my right ankle started having sharp pains so I stopped and went to the pool to soak a little while. Then Monday my left ankle was yelling once or twice at work. Freaked me out a little. :scared07:

Did some walking on the mill twice after that and things seemed OK for the most part. 2.5 miles of intervals yesterday before we hit the road. I'm planning to head outside tomorrow for a Christmas run, not sure how far. I was also planning to swim sometime today and maybe Monday morning {we're driving home Monday afternoon since E has to work Tuesday}. However, I forgot my swim bag! :oweye: We also decided to pack light and share a single suitcase so I left my spare goggles I normally have in my carry on at home. :boohoohoo:

I do have my swimsuit though, so I might try and buy some goggles someplace locally if the gym or maybe a Walgreens or something has any. I suppose I could also just do approach strokes so I don't loose my contacts...

In the big scheme of things these delemas are minor, and I'll get it pulled together for the Mickey two weeks from tomorrow. Just need to adjust a little more on the fly. I did my 20 miler a few weeks ago with much success, so I know I can overcome and do this!

OK, enough babbeling.

Not sure when people will be on, so:

Merry Christmas eveyone!!! :wave:

DisneyGeek
12-24-2011, 03:07 PM
Knocked out 25 laps (1250 yards) @ the pool. Did almost all of it alternating 1 length breast store & back freestyle. Took 30:11.70, so not bad since I was fin & paddleless. :)

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cyl-e
12-24-2011, 04:22 PM
DG good luck with all the sleep issues
Cloudnut - thanks for the words about Maui, it does make it a little easier...I think the only real way we would make it work would be if DH's job paid for him to go to the conference as that would cover his flight and most of the hotel costs and car. But we wouldn't know that until June, so can't really plan on it
Roxie - thanks for your wise thoughts and advice. I have been feeling very sour about RunDisney and it has been spoiling Disney as a whole for me, b/c I did so love combining my loves of active challenge, food, and Disney. Like you, there's a reasonable chance that I will come around and have to suck up whatever they do, but not there yet.
Did 10 today in my new CWX stabilyx tights! They seemed to work pretty well, especially aftrerwards, my knees were definitely less creaky today. But my left knee is still causing real problems at mile seven.
Also bought Brain Training and am totally psyched about it. Tried the falling forward thing today

Merry Xmas to everyone
Hope everyone's taper is going well

cloudnut220
12-24-2011, 06:50 PM
Merry Christmas everyone!

jrbdad
12-24-2011, 06:59 PM
Merry Christmas everyone!

You too Beth & all the Peacocks :)

DisneyGeek
12-24-2011, 10:23 PM
Thanks cyl! Hope your knee feels better soon. Still need to do some catching about your sourness twoard RD, but I hope you enjoy things Mouse again soon...

Rozzie
12-25-2011, 06:02 AM
Merry Christmas Peacocks!

It's not even 0700 here and of course I am up, been up. Peter has already gotten into chocolate and Tater had a accident. Who needs kids? :p Mr Roz is still asleep of course...

We are planning a 16 miler today but might postpone. I hate not to run on Christmas, its our yearly tradition but my foot/leg is really cranky. Feels better than the throbbing last night but we are both off tomorrow so it might just wait.

Made some of my Dad's Kona coffee I stole (yes stole) out of his freezer and in my mickey PJs in front of the tree. Wishing everyone the happiest of days. I do think of everyone of you as family.

DG, if your body is like mine, everything will hurt in taper. Hope you feel better!
Cyle, I have those tights and love them!

mickeyndvcfan
12-25-2011, 08:10 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!
:santa::santa:

DisneyGeek
12-25-2011, 11:39 AM
Roz- Think of you as family too sis! ;) Our fur kids count plenty, just like yours. Izzy put herself to bed (went into her crate without being told or getting any treats) last night, so we starts searching around to see if she ate something she shouldn't have or anyhting. Doesn't look that way, maybe she just wanted to curl up someplace that smelled like home. She's fine this morning, that's the important thing!

Hope you feel better and yeah, I know what you mean about hurting during taper and the alarm an ache can cause. IT was 34 degrees and sunny here when I woke up so I went out and 3.31 miles of intervals @ 11:47 average pace. Shins grumbled a little (there was a hill right at the sstart between my inlaws house and a nearby exercise trail and my first run interval was going up it of course!) but nothing significant. So I'm feeling pretty good; comforting to have my feet feel good in my planned race day shoes and a clear explanation for why shins, etc. feel like they do.

Don't think I finished describing the other weirdness at the track last week. When I started there was an older guy walking laps in Dockers w/ a T-shirt, black socks, and athletic shoes. The pants seemed odd to me, but whatever. Then I saw 2 people wearing jeans and sweatshirts to walk (and one sometimes running at a fairly good clip) on an indoor track. Huh? All that seemed like the wrong attire to me and left me a bit puzzled. Taking the cake: A guy on an elliptical I might have landed a little funny some slater in a button down long sleeve shirt, kahkiks, leather dress belt, black socks, etc. I think maybe came from church and changed he shoes ONLY when he walked on the gym. Then there was the midget who started vaccuming the track while it was in use. I think his sholders came up to the top of the vaccume cleaner handle. I've seen him working behind the registration desk before, it just seemed kinda' commical around everything else that just seemed slightly out of place that day. The old guy in the t-shirt evidentally finished his walk, and took off his shirt and was starting to towel off on the gym floor. The midget came up and was probably telling him he should use the locker room and that shirts and shoes are required everywhere else in the building. The old gu was fairly tall, about twice his height, and from a distance appeared totally confused despite everyone Ii could see watching him wondering what the heck he was doing. It was all just really weird. Shortly before my ankles started hurting I was about to pass him again (which nessecitated dodging the cod he was trailing) and he moved it right as I was about to cross. I had to sort-of jump to avoid being tripped, and I might have landed a little funny since it was way out of my stride and I was trying to make sure I didn't fall. Since it doesn't seem I have any injury from it I'll call the day a comedy of errors. At the time I was trying to decide where it fell between that or an epic fail... :silly:

2 weeks 'till the full & less for other events; I wish all the Peacocks and their families a great time today and much success in the rappidly approaching new year!!! :thumbsup2:

Rozzie
12-26-2011, 06:21 AM
Thank goodness we did the LR yesterday, cuz' things are slow moving around here. Christmas dinner consisted of 6 bottles of wine between 4 adults. Not to mention the warm up of my mothers wassil with Rum. It ended up being a fun time and everyone got along. Another Christmas miracle! :p

Downgraded the 16 to 14 and just did the last miles hard. Amazingly I just felt like crap all over (crap food night before), but the foot held out. I feel like I can finally breeze after my last LR out of the way. I'll do 10 next Sunday but that will be nice and easy pace.

Hope everyone had a great holiday, guess I need to think about packing. I really would like to clear out Christmas sometime today. However mother left her rum and Wassil over here, and I am off from work today......

DisneyGeek
12-26-2011, 09:39 AM
LOL Roz, have fun a Wassilin'!

Swam 1800 yards in 42:23.61. Waiting for my bil's soon to be in-laws to arrive so we can have a multi-family brunch.

Sometime aftter that we'll start the almost 500 mile treck back home. DW is working tomowwor, but I'm off until Tuesday the 3rd. One problem: She just said she needs to work on my honey-do list! :eek:

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Rozzie
12-26-2011, 11:11 AM
Wow, that is nice break DG!!

nono
12-27-2011, 06:10 AM
Well, other than a little Anaphylaxis and my Mom's dementia scaring the grandkids, it was a lovely 3 days off from my real life. No running at all. Today, I get back on the horse. My hay isn't all in the barn, so I'll be back in action pretty good this week.

Looks like we're safe to pack only shorts for the race. Now to figure out the rest of the packing. :scared07:

cloudnut220
12-27-2011, 06:23 AM
welp, I'm still in DE and I was supposed to be at work today...so yeah...Noel got really sick in the middle of the night. I think it must be a bug (not food poisoning) since we all had the same thing for dinner. I feel awful for him, because he was doing great yesterday--he ran a 10k, his longest run ever, and was maintaining an overall pace of 14/mm. So well ahead of sweep pace for WDW!!

As for me, my leg seems to be a lot better after the week off. I did 7.5 yesterday (instead of the planned 11 :boohoohoo:) because I didn't want to push it after the week off. Just a little soreness today, nothing awful like what I had before.

DisneyGeek
12-27-2011, 10:23 AM
Roz- Yeah, this is a nice stretch for me right now:

Last week- worked 4 days (and about an hour Friday from home)
This week- work 0
Next Week- work 3; arrive WDW Friday night Jan 6th! :yahoo:
Week of January 9th- work 0 days
Week starting January 16th- work 4 days

Then actually work 5 day weeks again until Presidents Day; my body might go into shock a few times. :scared07: After that real life sets in further and no time off until April... Honestly I hate burning up so much vacation time in a tight timeframe, but because of use or loose it now and the Mickey falling when they did that is how it goes. Nice while it lasts, but some parts of 2012 will be longggggggggggggggggggggggg! :silly:

nono- Good luck w/ reality!

CN- That's terrible noel got sick; I hope he's better fast but congrats for a good 10k. Glad the leg is improving to boot! :thumbsup2:


Meanwhile, on the team dinner front (http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?8253-Team-Peacock-WDW-Marathon-2012-Dinner-Party)- mwehttam (Matt) just asked to join us at the party; he's doing the half on Saturday.


Time for me to visit the treadmill. The scale was NOT in a very mood when I weighed myself this morning; up 4 pounds IIRC from when we left for IL on Friday... :blush:

DisneyGeek
12-27-2011, 01:15 PM
4.5 miles done. Shins started grumbling a I did about a 15 min. walk in the middle; when I dropped that from 4 MPH to 3.5 they were happy right away. Therefore I adjusted my speeds going forward to 6 MPH run 3.5 walk and I felt fine going back to 3 min run 1 min walk intervals... :goodvibes:

Rozzie
12-27-2011, 05:20 PM
Sending get well wishes for Noel! :fingerscrossed:

As for the weather, they were forecasting lots of wind for Sunday. That seems to have changed some thank heavens, I was beginning to think I was cursed. :silly: I can handle high low 70s, just hope it doesn't go past that. Now it does look like I might have some pool time after all for the remaining week. MG, bring your suit!! :biggulp:

On the training front took yesterday and today off. Foot felt off and body blahhh. Will switcharoo running days/off days this week. The hay is mostly in the barn, but a cow keeps coming in and eating it.....

Mr. Roz
12-27-2011, 08:10 PM
I have been looking forward so much to next weekend for so long. I can't think of a better group of people to be around.
Training has gone well but I am having a nagging calf injury from my 20 miler. It will be better in time for the race though.
Dg thanks for all the planning again for the dinner.
btw I need to know how many cases of wine for Monday?
I hope all is well with everyone.

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 02:23 AM
Roz & Mr. Roz- GL with the aches/pains and wine! ;)

nono
12-28-2011, 05:19 AM
btw I need to know how many cases of wine for Monday?
.


I have to drive home Tuesday, so I'm only good for 1/2 case. :w00t:

cloudnut220
12-28-2011, 06:10 AM
I'm bringing three big wine drinkers on Monday (and Noel, who will likely drink whatever is available or bring the scotch from our OL). I'm looking at the Pinzone's menu now and drooling over the wine...especially that Frank Family Chardonnay and the Witness Tree Pinot Noir (I LOVE everything from the Willamette Valley!) I know whatever you bring will be awesome! And if you have extra, I'll buy it off of you and put it in my luggage (clothes and such can be shipped home!!) It's a shame that the Rozes don't overlap with my sister (she's leaving EARLY saturday) or I would be ordering a case and having her drive it home!

nono
12-28-2011, 06:34 AM
Two things:

1. If we're making requests, I'm a sucker for Russian River Valley Reislings and any lighter reds from that same area.

2. If we're going to have a contest for best pre-race outfit, I may be in contention to win. :p

cloudnut220
12-28-2011, 10:46 AM
nono, you can have pre-race outfit honors, but I got a rockin running skirt for Christmas from my MIL. I'm calling it my peacock skirt :-) I still need to do a test run in it, but I'm pretty sure I'm wearing it on Sunday.

So, there's a 5k on the 1st about a block from my house. I'm trying to fight the urge to run it. Trying really hard...

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 11:21 AM
nono- So now there is a costume contest! :scared07:

GL in that fight CN; I'm not sure who should win since it may be really difficult not to race the 5k. *IF* you could hold back and do it at a training pace then I vote have fun and do the race.

Rozes- I'd be interested in tiny (< 1oz) tasting pours of whatever you bring since I'm curious but not a wine drinker as you know. However, the big BD party is Monday night Jan. 9th, right? Think there will still be anything going on around 11 PM or perhaps a bit later? DW & I have Le Cellier ADRs at 6:20 PM then I want to watch Illuminations and speedwalk to DHS and ride something before the park closes. Then I'll take the bus back to CR/BLT and would love to say Hi to everyone again but I know at least some of you are morning people! :grin: Of course, I might not be able to do my normal post Illuminations routine above after the Mickey; my legs may be getting refurbished for future enjoyment so I might just ask E to push a rented wheelchair back to the monorail and I'd be available much sooner... ;)

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 11:24 AM
BTW, anyone catch this article: Have You Experienced Runner’s Flow? (http://ow.ly/7YCbb)

I thought it was pretty good and shared it on FB as my latest Mickey goal being flow! :goodvibes:

nono
12-28-2011, 01:27 PM
nono- So now there is a costume contest! :scared07:



I think it's unfair to costumes everywhere to call my outfit one...:silly:

Rozzie
12-28-2011, 02:01 PM
I bought some clearance sweat pants a while back that now have kinda grown on me. Oh well, I need leggings for the cattle corral. Even if it's 50. I am excited to see Nono's get up. I still can see her in her OUC prerace wear....

Beth, I am planning on wearing my hot pink CEPs for the race. :thumbsup2: Oh Witness Tree is the BOMB.

DG, 11pm I will probably be face down somewhere, hopefully in the villa where I am easily found the next morning. From the race, to Peacock banquet, to drinking around Epcot then the wine party...well I can make no predictions! That is a long 48 hour span of events. As for parks, I may make it to one by Wed. :blush:

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 02:11 PM
Sorry nono, an "outfit contest" then... :oweye:

I did 45 min. on the ellip today and it all felt good. I think I may try and do the following for the next week and a half:

Thursday 12/29 and Friday 12/30: 4.5 miles on the mill
Sat. 12/31: 45 min. ellip
Sunday Jan 1st: Start the year with 9 miles either mill or outside depending on the weather
Mon 1/2: swim 1800 yards
Tue 1/3: 4.5 miles mill
Wed 1/4: 45 min. ellip
Thur 1/5: 4.5 miles mill
Fri 1/6: 45 min. ellip
Saturday 1/7: No formal exercise, but walk ~5 to 10 miles @ WDW
Sunday Jan. 8th: 26.2 miles after a warm-up walk to the start from Epcot's monorail station. :rotfl2:

Rozzie
12-28-2011, 05:21 PM
DG, I would take it easy as possible on Sat. Your first marathon you really want to go in with as much fresh legs as possible. I think it's still possible to do a lot, see a lot, but not overdo it. I know I am going to watch the HM, then chill out rest of day at BLT. Maybe walk over to MK and ride BTMRR since it's going into rehab early in trip. Never fear though, it's best to walk as MUCH as possible after the marathon. It is going to hurt like heck, but the more you walk the better you will feel. Still time to do stuff! That is why it's hard to do park touring with marathon weekend--something always has to give it seems. Just some friendly sisterly advice. :p

cloudnut220
12-28-2011, 05:41 PM
Beth, I am planning on wearing my hot pink CEPs for the race. :thumbsup2: Oh Witness Tree is the BOMB.


I'm wearing mine too! Probably both days. I just ran six in the them and wow what a difference!! I will likely have to use more moleskin than with regular socks, but that's not that big of a deal!!

I hope the translation on "watch the half" is watch Beth and MM, and then wait with Beth while Noel finishes. I'm thinking he's going to come in around 3 hours. He's finally eating again, which is a really good thing. I'm going to be so proud of him when he crosses that line! I just asked him when he was going to be doing his olympic distance triathalon, and if looks could kill, well, I would be double dead right now.

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 06:49 PM
DG, I would take it easy as possible on Sat.

Uhh, that's why I only expected to walk 5 to 10 miles; normally I do 9 to 13 miles daily each full day I'm at WDW! Part of why I excuse myself from formal exercise while at the Mouse House...

I'm also planning to try and ride BTMRR & Dumbo on Saturday since they will both be going down on the 9th; permanently in the current version of Dumbo's case.

I don't know what to do for the 2 days leading up to the full regarding scheduling. My flight is currently shceduled to arrive in MCO at 8:19 PM Friday Jan. 6th. I'm a night owl and am trying to decide if I should attempt to sleep in Saturday morning (no alarm clock) knowing I won't get a lot of sleep Saturday night or wake up early enough for MK rope drop in hopes that if I get up early I'll be able to fall asleep early. I think that is a pipe dream and that the sleep in concept might be more successful... :silly: So, this was a potential Saturday schedule:

Option 1:


Magic Kingdom for 9 AM rope drop (try and get up early to hypothetically help me sleep later…)
Be sure to ride Dumbo & BTMRR before they close for refurb on the 9th!
Go through Swiss Family Treehouse since it was being refurbed during Sept. 2010 trip

Option 2: Sleep in as late as I can [no alarm clock] and do the above MK items on Sunday sometime after the Marathon?


Head to ESPN and do race packet pickup
Hop to Epcot
Via Napoli @ 3:10 PM
Hop to DHS
Fantasmic! @ 6:30 PM
Check out the Osborn lights
Hop to MK
Check out the castle dreamlights
Watch Wishes @ 9 PM (maybe from my room, but most likely the hub)
Try and fall asleep EARLY (by my standards ;)) - be in bed by 10 or 10:30 PM?


I'm curious and would love to hear from anyone else out there who normally is NOT a morning person has tips or plans for how they are going to drag themselves out of bed to get to the start of their respective races! :listen:

Normally I close down the parks. Yesterday my brother was having computer problems and I didn't make it to bed until 5 AM. On my "game nights" I normally don't have my head hit the pillow until 2 AM, sometimes 3 or later. The 5:30 start and needing to catch a monorail from BLT 2 hours before that has me a bit worried... :blush:

cloudnut220
12-28-2011, 06:54 PM
DG, that still sounds like an awful lot to me. We didn't do ANY park before the half last year. Maybe you should just do rope drop, dumbo, and big thunder, then make it a pool day.

Rozzie
12-28-2011, 06:56 PM
I'm wearing mine too! Probably both days. I just ran six in the them and wow what a difference!! I will likely have to use more moleskin than with regular socks, but that's not that big of a deal!!

I hope the translation on "watch the half" is watch Beth and MM, and then wait with Beth while Noel finishes. I'm thinking he's going to come in around 3 hours. He's finally eating again, which is a really good thing. I'm going to be so proud of him when he crosses that line! I just asked him when he was going to be doing his olympic distance triathalon, and if looks could kill, well, I would be double dead right now.

Oh yes!! Of course that means a P tent meet up. I won't be there before the race, but I plan to be at the tent to see all the peeps come in. As for Sunday, I can make no promises of how long I can hang to see everyone come in. We all know my history by now...:blush: I really really want to see everyone though.

What mile is the TTC/Poly again? I am thinking of doing the TTC Poly walk. Then hop on over to the monorail. We will hopefully make it back to the Tent before the first runner comes in.

Cyle, where are you staying again? You are welcome to hitch a ride to expo with us on Friday. We are going to go early then eat lunch at WF's.

Rozzie
12-28-2011, 07:05 PM
DG, are you smoking the friendly dragon up there? :silly:

Seriously, you need to be OFF your feet by no later than 8pm. Even if you stay awake all night, it will be better for your body. There was a survey once on ROTE will several pages of responses on "What would you do differently on marathon weekend" and almost 99% of people said they would never again attempt to do a lot of park time before the race.

Not trying to scare you brother, but a marathon is a big deal. A lot different than a 20 miler. I want you to be successful out there!!! You have worked hard for this, it's time! :hug1:

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 07:10 PM
I don't want to miss Fantasmic! or the Osborn lights and Saturday is the only day of the trip I can see them. When we went for Christmas in 2009 the night I tried to see the lights they weren't running due to the rain. I was really disappointed to say the least, and rain in FL is a given, so the explanation didn't make a ton of sense to me...

Maybe I'll pass on heading into MK at all on Saturday and try and watch Wishes form our room since it is a MK view, and then attempt to sleep. I just don't know if I'll be able to! :silly: I'll probably head back to the room and take a nice long nap sometime after the full and before dinner. Hopefully I could then see the Castle Dreamlights on Sunday night after our team dinner; the park is open until 11 PM thanks to EMH...

DisneyGeek
12-28-2011, 07:14 PM
Roz & CN- I really do appreciate the input. I'm trying to make plans that are reasonable, this is just soooooooo different than my normal Disney trips I'm haivng trouble figuring out what to do and how to do it. Maybe staying off my feet even if not sleeping might be the trick. Sounds more doable than counting on early to bed & early to rise really occurring...

Rozzie
12-28-2011, 07:42 PM
DG, maybe this will make more sense. You are going to ask your body to do something really incredible but also something very very hard on Sunday. Be kind to it! Baby it. Most marathon weekend veterans will say that the weekend is shot for park touring, and really the Disney park stuff begins at the finish line. I like to squeeze simple stuff in, like a hour at park at most just to keep blood circulating. But you know your body better than the rest of us, so just follow your best judgment. Remember there is countless of other trips, but only one first marathon. :thumbsup2:

As for Osbourne Lights, the lights are still up, but don't they quit the "show" after the New Year? You probably know more about the dates than I do. I just found out last night about Big Thunder LOL! :p

cyl-e
12-28-2011, 07:51 PM
Yay - so excited
I am flying in on Friday and staying at Kidani. I don't get in until 3pm or so, so not at Kidani til prob around 4:30. So, Roz, I'll miss you and Mr. Roz for the expo, but would be psyched to join you to watch the half the next morning and cheer on CN and crew. Is there a way to connect up? How early would it be? I don't have any commitments on Saturday except around 3pm or so, when I need to meet up with my relay partner.
Another question, with the warmer temps, do you think it's okay to wear my CWX stabilyx tights? They are 3/4 length. I'd like to as they seem to help my knees and I've been struggling with left knee pain around mile 7 and on and would love to avoid that if possible. But I'm worried that they will be too hot. Roz, CN - you have experience with these tights, will it be too hot?
If so, then I'll likely be rockin' my hot pink cep tights too. If I can wear my tights, I'll wear my black socks with the tights.
I'm running the first half of the relay, so it will be the cooler part

Rozzie
12-29-2011, 04:37 AM
Yay - so excited
I am flying in on Friday and staying at Kidani. I don't get in until 3pm or so, so not at Kidani til prob around 4:30. So, Roz, I'll miss you and Mr. Roz for the expo, but would be psyched to join you to watch the half the next morning and cheer on CN and crew. Is there a way to connect up? How early would it be? I don't have any commitments on Saturday except around 3pm or so, when I need to meet up with my relay partner.
Another question, with the warmer temps, do you think it's okay to wear my CWX stabilyx tights? They are 3/4 length. I'd like to as they seem to help my knees and I've been struggling with left knee pain around mile 7 and on and would love to avoid that if possible. But I'm worried that they will be too hot. Roz, CN - you have experience with these tights, will it be too hot?
If so, then I'll likely be rockin' my hot pink cep tights too. If I can wear my tights, I'll wear my black socks with the tights.
I'm running the first half of the relay, so it will be the cooler part

I'll PM you with my cell. We can meet up at TTC early, that would require you leaving the resort early though. It's cool though to do the TTC, then walk to POLY, watch them again, then hop monorail back. I need to get everyone signed up for tracking. Or you can meet us at the P tent to see everyone after the race.

As for the tights, if they really help your knee pain, I say wear them. Especially since you are on the first leg. You won't be out there too long and if anything it will help you mentally. I wore some stabilyx 3/4 for NOLA a few years ago, the full. It was just 40s and warmed up to high 60s and I was just fine. Did wear just a singlet though and throw away gloves. I was having major hip issues and it helped me mentally (and probably physically) to have confidence to run my race.

Speaking of running, I had the most horrible foot pain this morning. Again, on my toe like last week. That would be my luck to have a stress fx. :covermouth:

cloudnut220
12-29-2011, 03:05 PM
cyl-e, do you run hot? I do, and I was burning up last year in tights and a long sleeve heat gear shirt. So maybe wear them and a singlet? Most of your running will likely be before the sun comes up, so it won't get THAT hot.

Roz, we do not say the word STRESS FRACTURE :silly: (since that's what the KT tape website says my leg pain could be, although I truly believe it feels like muscle pain since it hurts with certain flexes, goes away after warm up, etc) Especially not the week before the marathon and when I convince myself I CAN run a full in March!!

Rozzie
12-29-2011, 03:24 PM
Beth, I texted my sports doc. He told me again that fxs do no come and go with pain. He thinks I had a metatarsal shift when he was working on my plantar yesterday. Texted me some exercises. I am going with the "no fx" plan. ;-)

cloudnut220
12-29-2011, 05:30 PM
I should get better about doing my excercises

I bagged pump today and decided to come home and veg. Planning on doing my last LR tomorrow...it will either be 10 or 12 depending on how I feel. Then hoping to do pump on Saturday. I'm pretty bummed, because I can't find my garmin charger and it's totally dead. I ordered a new one, but it won't be here until later tomorrow :-( I just filled out the online profile for the RoadID Noel gave me for Christmas. Hopefully no one will ever need it!

DisneyGeek
12-29-2011, 07:35 PM
Roz- I'm with the general vote: Just say NO to stress fractures! :scared07:

4.5 miles on mill today. Felt good; did 2.5 minutes running @ 6 MPH to 1 min. walking at 3.6 after warming up to it.

I was wlaking around Home Depot tonight w/ DW (pre-shopping for getting those new floors she wants that I keep mentioning :rolleyes:; I suppose our carpet in many areas is pretty well worn... ;)) and my feet, especially right one, just do NOT feel right in my New Blance 606 shoes I got 2 weeks ago. Felt great in the store but started bothering me in the car driving down to IL. I think I'm going to swap to some Sacony shoes I bought for running but only used for 1 short TM trial so far. I need new walking shoes for the trip, and although these might be overkill that is a lot better than injury! :silly:

Mr. Roz
12-29-2011, 10:35 PM
I am a little late in posting but to add my three cents...DG I would caution against doing to much before the Marathon. There is something to be said about doing more than just finishing. I wish you the best of running and hope your first marathon is special. Then again what you have scheduled seems to be equal to your own half marathon before your full. Some special medal for that?

In other news the wines have arrived and on the menu is :
Tantara Pinot Noir Bien Nacido '09
Ramey Chardonnay Sonoma Coast '08
Turley Zinfandel Howell Mountain "Juvenille '10
Frank Family Pinot Noir Napa Valley '09
Nahe Riesling Germany '09
Cali's Cuvee' Pinot Noir Willamette Valley '06
Frank Family Chardonnay Napa Valley '10
Witness Tree Pinot Noir Willamette Valley '09
Ramey Claret Napa Valley '07
Outpost Zinfandel Howell Mountain '07
Mas de Dames Languedoc France '07
Turkey Flat Shiraz Barossa Valley '06
Chateau Redortier Beaumes de Venise'05
JC Cellars Syrah Ventana Vineyard CA '05
Elyse Nero Misto CA '07
Seasmoke Gratis Chardonnay Santa Rita Hills '09

I have a total of 27 bottles(one for each mile) Should be fun.

DisneyGeek
12-30-2011, 03:18 AM
I have a total of 27 bottles(one for each mile) Should be fun.

I love it! :rotfl2:

So for Saturday the 7th:


I need to do packet pickup!
We have ADRs @ Via Napoli at 3:10 PM; I need to eat at some point so plan to keep that- I usually have pizza or pasta the night before a long run and that works well for me. I adjusted to an early dinner since the full starts way earlier than I normally do training runs...
I really want to see Osborne Lights since they are running through the 7th and I missed them last year.
I'd like to see Fantasmic! since it is my favorite nighttime show and will go on refurb Jan. 9th, so Saturday is the only time this trip I can do either of those.


Does doing only those 4 things (plus some breakfast in our room or at CR) and then heading back to the room straight from DHS seem reasonable or is that still likely to be too much? :confused24: No regular attractions, and I'll take friendship boats from IG to DHS and find someplace to sit while waiting for Fantasmic!. I'll do breakfast in our room or over at CR, and maybe have some popcorn [hasn't bothered me the night before training runs] and watch Wishes from our balcony (seated) if at all. :silly:

Finally the transportation questions I feel silly asking- How do you recommend getting to the Expo from BLT and then heading to World Showcase after it? How much time should I allow round trip? Since we won't have a car should I just break down and pay for a cab? I would probably have it take us to Beach Club post Expo to minimize walking to Italy. ;)

Rozzie
12-30-2011, 04:50 AM
Wowser Mr Roz!! I saw the 2 cases of wine by the front door but you didn't tell me there was Seasmoke and a Ramey Claret in there. Very impressed too by your small collection of 07's. Nice work! (inside info: this was a special hand selected order by Mr Roz and our wine dealer. The only way we can afford great wine, buying it at cost!) I just hope I can be trusted with Ramey and Seasmoke in the house. :p Another special surprise in store for dessert, but I'll let that stay a mystery for now.

Foot felt better this morning. Cut run short again just in case. Hanging on by threads down here! :fingerscrossed:

DG, I don't think you will be happy missing Osbourne and Fantastmic. I say stick to your least walking plan, and wishes from the room. Oh just catch BCV, BWV bus from Expo. Warning, those buses usually take a long while.

cloudnut220
12-30-2011, 06:37 AM
Must go out running soon...but it's so cold! EEK! I did manage to put it off a bit by making marshmallows this morning. I mean, clearly we NEED them for NYE.

I also wanted to share that I'm on the Disney Food Blog today with a guest review: http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2011/12/29/guest-review-street-food-and-snacks-at-disneyland-paris/

cyl-e
12-30-2011, 09:07 AM
Great blog Beth!
Those Mickey buns sound so yummy.

Speed workout today was successful! Feeling good overall (albeit slightly heavier given all of the good eating done over the holidays). I'm not really tapering for the upcoming weekend as my primary race is the Tinkerbell Half near the end of January. I'm going to try to frontload my running this coming week - so that I do go into the relay with several days rest.

On a different note - RunDisney has restored my faith in them and Disney!! Yay! Apparently - DH got a call from them this morning (I'm at work) and they will make an exception and award him his C2C at Tinkerbell (he'll have done the C2C in 12 months rather than a calendar year). We are very grateful and excited (and now DH needs to finish the Tinkerbell - he hasn't been training much because of the suspected beginnings of a stress fracture in his foot that he doesn't want to aggravate during his competitive curling time). Plus - we found a great half to do in October up in Niagara Falls (near DH's family). We may even be able to convince several of them to join us either by running or walking it. So our current plan for next fall is to do the Niagara Int'l Half and then fly directly from there to WDW to enjoy Food & Wine for a week. While not quite as perfect as past years - it has its own benefits - like having fans and potentially family/friends run/walk with us. Plus the course is flat and fast. And it allows us to check out Food & Wine at a different time of the festival than previous years - so that's cool too. Sorry for being so down before - I was really disappointed by the date change and by RunDisney's initial responses (or lack thereof) - and it was augmented by pms (really have had dramatic mood issues recently that seem to happen like clockwork...). Maybe that's tmi.

Ok - have a wonderful New Year's celebration everyone! Can't wait to meet all of you in person.

Roz - I will definitely get up early and meet you at TTC on Saturday to cheer Beth on. I figure the early morning thing is just prep for Sunday - so no problem.

cloudnut220
12-30-2011, 09:29 AM
Well if I've ever had a disaster run, it was this morning. I thought my stiffness had worn off, then about 2 miles in the pain set in BAD. I made it about a half mile before I turned around and walked home. It's too close to the race to push through it. I had two pretty good runs on monday and wednesday, then this. I'm not sure where this leaves me...do I just rest a week and then try my best next weekend, or scrap the whole thing? A whole year's worth of training for nothing.

Rozzie
12-30-2011, 11:29 AM
Pain in same area Beth right? Take 2 days off, don't stress. It's scary to think I know of a DNS, BUT You will start and will be okay. just ice!!

Cyle, fantastic news!!!!!!!

cloudnut220
12-30-2011, 12:03 PM
Same spot. I know im probably over reacting but its a little soul crushing, you know?

cyl-e
12-30-2011, 12:44 PM
CN - sorry to hear about the bad run. I did read an article somewhere talking about how all runners (think the article was about elite runners) seem to get ailments/injuries right before big runs - so part of it may be your mind/body going through its pre-run jitters. I don't know much more than that - so am not of much help. Rest sounds like a smart idea and fits right in with a taper.

cloudnut220
12-30-2011, 02:15 PM
cyl-e, I'm glad RD made it better. and I totally understand about the emotions...I'm like a wreck right now and I don't even have your excuse. Poor Noel having to put up with crazy me. I can't even imagine what I'll be like when I'm pregnant one day.

cloudnut220
12-30-2011, 02:46 PM
This is SO NOT my day. A neighbor just knocked on my door...they caught some little punk kids trying to break into my car. So I just had a fun visit with a very nice police officer. Then some other neighbors came over and started complaining about how "bad" our street is (trust me, our street isn't "bad". no one is dealing drugs, no one is shooting, just a few cars have been broken into, and there is always an uptick of that around the holidays) and then they started calling Baltimore a sh--hole, so I end up defending the city to them. Don't get me wrong, I know Baltimore has problems, I'm not wearing rose colored glasses. But it's still my home. Where I'm from.

Rozzie
12-30-2011, 05:42 PM
Beth, come sit by me. I am a nervous wreck! I spent 2 days this week thinking I was a DNS with a stress fx. Pain went away today, and will probably be back before the race gets here. I will have a good day, then a very bad day and limp home. But Cyle is right, a lot of this is taper. I have read time and time again that its rare to feel great in a taper. I just wish I could run more now, but know in my mind that the time for pushing hard is past. It's frustrating as you want to train and cram stuff in. I try to explain it to non-runners as studying for a big exam for 6 months then the week before the test someone tells you that it's been for nothing. You want to prove to yourself that the hard work has paid off. I think that is why I get so dern chained to hard arse race goals. I work my butt off, get up in the middle of the night--now I want to see the hard work pay off. The reality is that "any given Sunday" we can have a great race, or a bad race. Sometimes you go into a race feeling great and have a bad race. Lots of times you go into the race with a bad taper and you have a great race. I guess I say all of this to say that don't let how you feel today dictate how you will feel next weekend. Try to stay positive! In the mean time, laugh with me. Its healing! I love this poem. I am kinda uh, famous at my sports docs to how OCD I become before a big race. I think you might enjoy the poem too. I think I have posted it here before. As for the neighbors, I live in suburbia USA and our cars get broken into. It happens anywhere! People just love to biaatch.


'I cannot run again today,'
Said little Betty Ann Bengay.
'My quads are cramped.
My nerves are shot.
I think I might have purple snot.
My arch is pulled.
My glutes are sore.
My back it doesn’t bend no more.
My feet they have this awful smell.
I have another black toenail.
My elbow aches each time I pee.
And what’s that grinding in my knee?
I have a stress fracture. In my skull.
My friends, they say, I’m full of bull.
I think I may have pulled a lung.
Eleven miles ain’t a REAL long run!
My legs they are no longer speedy.
My husband thinks I’m really needy.
If I run more will I get faster?
Will micro-tears just cause disaster?
I think that I should carbo-load.
Uh oh. No way. Where’s the commode?
My glycogen is kinda spent.
I know my shin, it needs a splint.
My singlet smells like something funky.
And don’t you think my butt looks chunky?
My IT band no longer bends.
When will this taper ever end?
My hamstrings hurt and--what?
What’s that you say?
You say today is...marathon day?
G'bye. I’m going out to run.'

DisneyGeek
12-30-2011, 06:11 PM
Cyl- Congrats on the medal info!

Tried the Sacony's on a quick jaunt out to look at flooring products at an end of year sale. Result: Feet hurt, right new twinged, and right hip also unhappy. Normally it is my left ITB I have issues with! :oweye: Sooooo, I'm sitting with you too Roz & CN, but only because my feet keep hurting in casual general walking around shoes! WALKING? WTF???? Two different pairs of new shoes that felt fine when I first tired them on and now not so much. Even in my running shoes on the mill (that have 90ish miles on one and ~250 on the other that I alternate) my shins are OK during run intervals, but were bothering me if I go above 3.6 MPH on the walking ones (as opposed to my usual 4). I don't get it. I'm going back to the 4 or 5 month old New Balances I wore to WDW in Sept. for casual use this next week and for the trip...

My mom thinks I'll be good with my latest "4 item out of the room" Saturday plan as well. Ding-ding-ding, hope I have a winner.

CN- Sorry to hear about your day. :boohoohoo: I'm confident you'll be fine if you rest now! :hug1:

Uh-oh, gotta' go help DW w/ groceries!!! :grin:

Rozzie
12-30-2011, 06:19 PM
DG, this is taper madness! It's okay. Come sit with us. :wave:

withdisneyspirit
12-31-2011, 08:11 AM
Can we call at least one of my current taper problems self-sabotage? Two days ago, I actually dropped my heavy laptop on my shin!!!! :oweye::covermouth::blush::boohoohoo: I am such a damn klutz. Fortunately, no bones broken although it sure felt like it at the time. I iced immediately and that helped bruising but it feels very bruised nonetheless.

My other bigger problem is that I am sick again!! That makes about four weeks of sickness out of the last 5.5 weeks! Can I please come sit by y'all too even though I've been missing for awhile? Been sick since last Sunday :( with aches and pains galore.

Cyl-e, I have a DNS from April 2011, the Talladega Half! I wish I had even just walked it because it really felt bad to sit it out! It is one of my biggest regrets ever! I guess I will remind myself of that if I am tempted to give up before this race begins!

I hope all of the commented upon issues that everyone is having all feel better very soon. I will head to the doc before we leave town if I am not better this weekend...

Enjoyed your Parisian food blog, CN, very nice and yummy sounding!

Mr. Roz, I am not very knowledgeable regarding wines but I am very happy with any reds you bring :grin: It sounds like Pinot Noir is one of your faves too!

Oh by the way, I hope all of you had a Merry Christmas and have a happy and safe Happy New Year's Eve today!!

Rozzie
12-31-2011, 10:32 AM
Lisa, of course come sit with us! I can't believe you are SICK AGAIN! Ughh! That stinks. I hope your shin is better too. I am so clumsy I feel like I need to body wrap myself in bubble wrap leading up to a race.

Well foot pain is back. Yesterday felt great, today during last mile it struck again. I am a WTF loss. It's so hard to know what to do. Some days I can't run through it, and today I could have run through it and held pace but chose to immediately walk when it came. I just keep telling myself, what's most important is I am going on vacation. I get to see all my friends, Mulan, and celebrate Scott's bday. There just happens to be a race next weekend....that I've put a great amount of blood sweat and tears into, but who's counting...

Nono, how is your foot doing? :listen:

cloudnut220
12-31-2011, 12:32 PM
:hug1:Roz and Lisa!

No pain in the leg walking around today. None jumping. A tiny bit going up and down stairs. Went to body pump this morning, the only time it bothered we was during the lunge track (it was a hard track and I just couldn't lunge on that leg for 90 secs straight.)

I'm taking a bit of a break from all of the NYE party prep around here. We're having a sit down dinner again this year which I LOVE! We're brining a pork loin, doing roast veggies and making ball drop cupcakes (which are going to be SO CUTE!). Our friend Tony is using the F&W cookbook to make Escargot en Brioche and others are bringing other sides and such. It should be wonderful :-)

mickeyndvcfan
12-31-2011, 03:07 PM
:hug1::hug1::hug1: to everyone with aches, pain and illnesses!! Have Happy and Healthy New Year! Looking forward to seeing everyone next week.:thumbsup2:

DisneyGeek
12-31-2011, 03:21 PM
Lisa- Welcome to our injured reserve bench, just know that we will ALL recover and none of us will DNS by sheer force of will. :goodvibes:

Roz- Bummer on the foot; and we'll also enjoy seeing you on "vacation"! ;)

CN- Lunges scare me and just never seem like a good idea intrinsically, but whatever works for you (most of the time). The food sounds great!

MG- Happy New Year to you and everyone!

Hope I didn't miss anyone... :embarassed:

Rozzie
12-31-2011, 03:31 PM
Beth, what time is dinner? I will be solo and watching Auburn game, munching on pizza. I have the dogs though to keep me company. I honestly don't remember The last time I actually was not wearing sweatpants to ring in the new year LoL! Sounds like a fantastic time! I truly love dinner parties.

cloudnut220
12-31-2011, 04:11 PM
We're doing apps at 8.15 dinner at 9 or 9.30. We just finished moving half of my furniture and all of my table and glassware around the corner to Carlos and Eileen's house (where we're hosting).

cloudnut220
12-31-2011, 04:36 PM
I hope Mr Roz has a blockbuster night at the restaurant!!

withdisneyspirit
12-31-2011, 04:51 PM
The cold had the gall to move up in my head after 6 days!!! %#$@&%$ Now, I am even whinier. Thank goodness Rick isn't sick too because at least he feels sorry for me! :rolleyes: I can see a doctor in my future :sideways:

The good news...I still have two more days off :goodvibes: Kinda glad I'm not hosting a dinner party though, CN! I hope it goes wonderfully and will live vicariously through your descriptions :goodvibes::listen::eating:

I agree, DG, no one will DNS!!

Rozzie, I love to stay home on New Year's Eve!!

MatterhornMiss
12-31-2011, 05:18 PM
Well I know I haven't been around since probably AC but I'm looking forward to seeing most of you next week! For the first time marathoners, how's the taper going? I'm excited that I really have no expectations about these races as it means for the first time I'm not going crazy during taper. I'm even taking off running from here to race because of knee pain that started right after finishing my last LR before taper--and I really don't care! This is the way racing is meant to be.

I haven't reviewed anyone's goals for 2012 and I need to go back and look at how well I did in 2011, but I think my goal this coming year is just to go with the flow. I like this lower stress running. I think I want to maintain a base of at least 20 miles/week so if I decide last minute to enter a race (even up to a half) I can. I will say I have enjoyed that much of marathon training: I'm trained up to do other races. I think this year I'd like to grow more as a person: be more patient and joyful among other things.

Well, Happy New Year Peacocks!!! See everyone soon!

DisneyGeek
12-31-2011, 05:46 PM
32 min ellip, no problems. Plan to run some to ring in the New Year, details TBD. Hibachi place we had ressies @ is running behind but owner says they'll be ready soon.

TTFN!

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Rozzie
12-31-2011, 10:53 PM
Beth it was a blockbuster night!! Had run up there to bring Mr Roz a triple espresso drink treat this afternoon and learned our hostess had called out. (who the F calls out on NYE?) So ran home, changed, and played restaurant worker for several long hours. The wine dinner went great. Just was annoyed by all the drunk people. Probably because I was not one of them!! :grin: I have no idea how working so much on my sore foot is going to be for my LR tomorrow. Oh well, some things are more important.

Nice to see you MM! I love your attitude. Can you bottle some up and send to me?

Happy New Year Peacocks!! Remember running is not our entire life, but it makes our life whole. :goodvibes:

DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 02:56 AM
PS- MM, like Roz says I love your attitude! :)

And now 2012 starts...

My goals for the year:

Complete the Coast to Coast Challenge :thumbsup2:
Try and get down to 200 pounds :eek:
Figure out a good sleep & exercise routine and STICK WITH IT! :silly:

Rozzie
01-01-2012, 07:23 AM
I am afraid to look at my 2011 goals. I know there was at least one pie in the sky I did not reach.

Still haven't decided on a LR today. Mr. Roz is dead to the world, the victim of a 19 hour shift yesterday. I am off tomorrow and think I may just head out for a mile or two test then try tomorrow. The foot pain went into my heel at work last night and that has really scared me. Plantar is not something that goes away with RICE. Surprisingly only my arch was tight this morning and after the tennis ball tortue test it feels okay. That's the thing. I usually feels fine until about mile 5. Only 21.2 leaves a question!! So what the heck is this foot thing? :confused24: o

As for 2012 goals, I need to go investigate my 11' goals. I know one thing 2012 will not have, a marathon!! :p

Rozzie
01-01-2012, 07:35 AM
OMG, I found my 2011 goals. I need a drink....

2011? Well I know I typed out some stuff earlier but today I will declare my goals for 2011 in final ink. BQ! That's it. :grin:

.................. Overall, I want to find myself sitting here on Dec 31, 2011 a lean mean fighting machine reviewing my training plan for Boston


Okay, DG I need your number skills. What is the mathematic probablity that I would run the SAME EXACT mileage in 2010 and 2011??? I mean this is freakin' hilarious!!

2010-1665
2011-1665.6

withdisneyspirit
01-01-2012, 07:35 AM
Silly, girl, Rozzie! 2012 most definitely will have a marathon! :p I trust the tennis ball test is right though!!

My biggest goal for 2012 will be to gain control over portioning again, even if that requires damn calorie counting again. My weight is my biggest source of stress next to my dumb job, lol!

Rozzie
01-01-2012, 09:03 AM
Silly, girl, Rozzie! 2012 most definitely will have a marathon! :p I trust the tennis ball test is right though!!

!

Oh yeah, I forgot--next weekend! :blush:

I hear ya' on the eating, and I also need to get a handle on things. Need to conquer the whole emotional eating side of me.

Rozzie
01-01-2012, 11:00 AM
ATTENTION PEACOCKS!! IT'S TIME TO GET FIRED UP! We got to get our minds right! (read me)





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtI0_pFvNW8&feature=youtu.be


Peacocks, we are marching down the field!
Peacocks, we refuse to YIELD!

withdisneyspirit
01-01-2012, 11:57 AM
LOVE it, Rozzie!!!!!! :rotfl2:

cloudnut220
01-01-2012, 06:34 PM
OH thank you Baltimore Ravens for winning today. Now we have a bye next weekend so we don't have the stress of a playoff game in the middle of marathon weekend. THANK YOU!!

Roz, I love that clip. And no beating yourself up about 2011 goals. If your self from last year was sitting with you right now, wouldn't she tell you that you had no idea the opportunities and hardships you would have this year? First with the changes in your life from the restaurant, then everything with your dad. You're stronger this year than you were last year, and not just from running.

DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 06:49 PM
So we were comparing my dad's all time favorite shoes; his now retired Nike Dualist (Men's size 7) to my new Brooks Adrenaline GTS 12 pair my parents got me for Christmas. The weight difference is amazing of course, but I'm attaching pics. I love the wear on my dad's! :D

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DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 06:56 PM
Roz- Too funny on the miles, GL w/ the foot, and please don't forget us next week! Need to watch that clip when I get home...

Lisa- GL to us all on eating (&amp; job stress)

CN- Uhhh, glad you're happy about the game?

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DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 07:00 PM
PS- My dad wanted me to say that he ran 5,200 miles a year for 20 years in a row (back when he was racing). For 2011 he thinks he only did ~3900, but he hasn't added it up yet.

When I get home I need to add mine; wonder if I broke a thousand if I include treadmill &amp; outside... :silly: Highly unlikely, hopefully I'm comfortably north of 500 at least! :eek:

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Rozzie
01-01-2012, 07:02 PM
I have some sad news to report. Robert and Linda Mathis were killed out on a run this morning in CA by a drunk driver. Many people knew Robert as UltraMM. He was a member on DVCNews, but will best be remembered for starting the online community of Disney Running that then branched into ROTE. I met him several times and while some may had left DR on not so fun terms I never lost my warm regards to him. Scott and I sat with him and Linda one night at Big River on the BW for several hours, just the 4 of us talking about running and such. We were just starting out running and they were very instrumental in encouraging us to take our Disney racing to another level. They were a hoot to talk to, and both loved life very very much. All I could think when I heard the news was at least they went together, I can't imagine them apart from one another.

Stay safe friends, but most important, live your life with no regrets. While it's smart to plan for tomorrow, tomorrow is not promised to any of us.

RIP Robert and Linda.

DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 07:08 PM
My mom made me a shoe ornament, like the ones she made my dad &amp; brother in past years. Mine is the left facing Brooks (Because that's the brand I wore for the Air Force half and plan to for the Mickey!) along their Nikes. :)

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withdisneyspirit
01-01-2012, 07:09 PM
That is such terribly sad news, Rozzie! I never met Robert in person but enjoyed visiting with him at the Mouseowners running threads occasionally! That is so hard to believe!! :(

DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 07:10 PM
:( Just read your post Roz, that is so sad. But at least they were togehter &amp; doing what they love...

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Rozzie
01-01-2012, 08:00 PM
That is such terribly sad news, Rozzie! I never met Robert in person but enjoyed visiting with him at the Mouseowners running threads occasionally! That is so hard to believe!! :(

It's a difficult thing to take in. I know you and I have both have dealt with loss this year and it seems to open up another layer of sadness for me. It's weird how random loss can make my own specific loss very fresh.

I did learn on FB they were supposed to leave yesterday for Disney where they were going to spend a entire month.


DG, tell your Dad I am amazed at his mileage!! Does make you wonder about how shoes have evolved into what they are today. Maybe all the shoe company conspiracy theory's are correct?? :scratchchin:

withdisneyspirit
01-01-2012, 08:15 PM
It really does, Rozzie! The losses of Jerry and Susan are always right below or on my mind every single day. 2011 was such a year of challenge for me. Robert and his wife's loss is very tragic and random!!!

I did really freak out, DG, when I saw your father's shoes! He really is a Marathon or at least Running Maniac!!!!!!!

DisneyGeek
01-01-2012, 08:33 PM
Roz- Sorry it opened things up for you; I didn't even think about that...


I did really freak out, DG, when I saw your father's shoes! He really is a Marathon or at least Running Maniac!!!!!!!

Yeah, the hole in the sole was particularly interesting. At least he doesn't run in those anymore and only keeps them for sentimental seasons and to compare shoes to as a visual reference... He was telling me that the weather looked pretty good for this weekend and I should be glad; the year it hit over 90 during the Port Clinton Marathon he finished in 3:22 and was 13th overall, when less than a month before it he did a 2:50 and the month after he did a 2:42. (Or something like that!) His sub-16 minute 5ks and other stats [like marathon times that look to me like something I'd be fairly happy with for a half!] just make me sick ever since I actually started running myself; as a little kid that was just his time and since we'd typically leave the finish area shortly after he came in I never truly appreciated how many at least partially mortal people were coming in after him! :scared07: He was saying my goal should be to beat my mom's 4:24 for the 1 and only full marathon she ever did; I'll be (happily) surprised if I break 5 hours the way things have been going lately, but we'll see what happens on race day!

Rozzie
01-01-2012, 08:55 PM
Okay, here they are. Goals for 2012.

1. Read 6 Classics
2. Perfect half-moon pose.
3. Learn to fold a fitted bedsheet.
4. PR a HM

cloudnut220
01-02-2012, 07:23 AM
Roz, that's heartbreaking about the couple. I always try to remember that we don't have all the time in the world. I guess that's how Noel and I justify all the traveling we do--we just hear so many stories of people who say they'll do it one day or when they retire...and then one day never comes.

DG, as for the football, it's a VERY BIG DEAL! The Ravens one the AFC North, which means we have a bye in the first round of the playoffs (which are next weekend) and at least one home field game MLK day weekend. We've been a little shaky on the road this year, so the home field advantage is a big deal. And if we hadn't won, we would still be in the playoffs, but we would be playing next weekend, which means Sunday afternoon, after finishing the relay we would have needed to find a place to watch the game. Not really ideal.

cloudnut220
01-02-2012, 08:11 AM
I think I'm going to attempt a run today. No pain at all in the leg today. Any thoughts? Should I keep crosstraining, or just keep it easy on a run. I'm so nervous about this weekend, simply because I feel so undertrained. My last really good long run (10mi) was the weekend before Christmas :sick:

Rozzie
01-02-2012, 08:27 AM
I think I'm going to attempt a run today. No pain at all in the leg today. Any thoughts? Should I keep crosstraining, or just keep it easy on a run. I'm so nervous about this weekend, simply because I feel so undertrained. My last really good long run (10mi) was the weekend before Christmas :sick:

Well I will tell you the Rozzie Injury still going to race Plan I devised this morning.

NO LR yesterday, Power Yoga 60 min. (hard sweaty one)

Today--3 miles. (pace felt good, no pain, but weirdness in foot)
Tues--60 min Power Yoga. Appt with Sports Doc for treatment
Wed--4 miles. 60 min sports massage, with 50 min devoted to lower legs
Thurs--60 min Power Yoga
Fri--OFF.
Sat--2 miles with strides, 30 min Flexability Yoga DVD
Sun--Race

cloudnut220
01-02-2012, 10:02 AM
I talked it through with noel and decided to be conservative. I'm waiting to start body pump now and then do a bit of time on the elliptical. I will either do a short run or more elliptical tomorrow. Weds im flying out early then doing WWOHP so that's an off day. Short elliptical or run Thursday am then off friday. I want to start pain free sat to increase the chances of a strong Sunday. A few miles this week wont make or break the weekend, right?

cloudnut220
01-02-2012, 12:32 PM
Just put my name in the lottery for the New York City Marathon. It's one of my life goals to run it one day. I don't have high hopes of getting in through the lottery, so I'm guessing my backup marathon plan will be either Richmond or Philly. My big resolution for 2012 is to run a marathon sometime this year, because in 2013 we hope to expand our family :D;);) which means marathon training will likely be out of the question for a few years. Not all running, but a marathon is a big commitment!

As for next weekend. I think my goals are:

silver: finish with a minimal amount of pain. walking is okay.
gold: finish both races faster than my WDW half last year, which was 2.20.20. So that would mean an overall time of 4.40 for both races.
platinum: finish both races under 2.15, or with a combined time of 4.30.

Rozzie
01-02-2012, 02:30 PM
Oh crap, it's race goal time! :blech:

Beth, I got your email the other day about NYC. Wow that price makes Disney look affordable. :silly: It's still on my bucket list and I'll just have to suck it up. Not going in the lottery this year, but plan to start putting my name in the hat next year. Hey, I have known 3 folks get in on the first round. GL to you! :fingerscrossed:

DisneyGeek
01-02-2012, 02:38 PM
Roz- Plan looks good me!

CN- GL w/ the lottery!

Woke up and a bad headache started forming almost immediately, ohhh brother. I really hope that doesn't happen on race day!!! It is finally starting to break. I'm going to head to the pool shortly but do NOT plan to use fins; they increase ankle and shin workload / stress and I don't want to push my legs AT ALL this week! :silly:

For the rest of this week I'm thinking:

30 minutes + ~3 min cool down on mill Tuesday & Thursday
32 minutes (plus 1.5 cool down) on elliptical Wednesday & Friday
Saturday = Just the walking I do on my limited expo / park schedule...
Sunday: Uhhh, 26.2 anyone? :grin:

Rozzie
01-02-2012, 02:56 PM
Okay, before I back out.

Bronze: Just Finish. (I haven't used this for a goal for a very looong time, and hope not to use it again for a very looong time)

Silver: Sub 4:30.

Gold: Sub 4:00.

To say my goals have changed dramatically in the last 2 weeks is a grand understatement. :(

DisneyGeek
01-02-2012, 07:19 PM
Roz- The goals sound reasonable to me! Add about an hour to the times and maybe I'll use 'em too. ;)

I did 1000 yards at the pool before dinner, taking things fairly easy (as planned). DW made some baked sauerkraut balls; they were tasty and a LOT healthy than their traditional deep fried counterparts. :eating:

I also computer my 2011 running stats:

Outside & track miles: 293.49
Treadmill miles: 460

Grand Total: 753.49

2010 approximate total miles: 506.14

So I did about 247 more miles (an increase of over 48%) in the year that just ended. Not too bad... :thumbsup2:

Rozzie
01-03-2012, 04:44 AM
Nice DG. :thumbsup2:

Went ahead and got up and almost ran this morning. Foot felt pretty good. MADE myself stick to my Injury/still Racing plan and did 60 min of Yoga. It's in the 20s here but I miss my running so much I had all my winter gear laid out just "in case" last night. This is the least amount of running I have done in almost a year, and I am going BATTY! :silly:

2 more sleeps until Disney sleep. :goodvibes:

cloudnut220
01-03-2012, 08:24 AM
So my other running resolutions for the year (other than the marathon) are to keep chasing that 2 hour half and to actually TRACK MY MILES!! I'm guessing I ran somewhere just south of a 1,000 this year, but I have no actual idea since I'm SO BAD at tracking!

So when is everyone arriving? 24 hours from now I'll be on the ground in Florida and on my way to IOA.

WTG Roz on following the plan! I'm suddenly having what I hope is some phantom pain in my left foot. WTF?

Rozzie
01-03-2012, 11:04 AM
We arrive sometime around midnight Thursday. Leaving after work.

Good thoughts on the foot Beth!

Mr. Roz
01-03-2012, 12:15 PM
I couldn't find my goals from last year and since I can't remember them its safe to say I didn't meet any.
So out with the old in with the new right? Anyway goals for 12
RUN 2000 miles
PR 5k,10k and half
Learn piano
read 6 classic novels
Can't wait until this weekend. Safe traveling everyone.

Rozzie
01-03-2012, 04:20 PM
The resutls are in! Flexor Halllicus strain. At least there is a name to it now. Doc says it's not severe, but I need to think about the potential harm in the race. He thinks I should still do the race, and if the pain gets above a certain level then slow down. All I will be doing is delaying healing in doing the race. I don't have another big marathon for a year, so I'm in. He says to still run in my taper week, that if I have been doing 50 miles a week that 2-3 miles is not going to help me nor hurt me physically a great deal--but it will help me mentally. He said I have reached a all time high of freaking out. :silly: It did ultrasound today, and more ultrasound tomorrow. Keeping massage appt. He thinks a very tight calf triggered it.

It's a rare running injury, but a big common injury among professional ballet dancers. (WTF?) :p

cloudnut220
01-03-2012, 06:02 PM
Boooooo on the injury! The name doesn't make it any better.

I'm going back and forth over here. Can't decide mentally if I'm going to be able to do this or not. One minute I'm all rah-rah, the next I'm ready to quit and just drink all weekend.

Carlos just dropped off our shirts for Sunday...

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=2212798774565&set=a.1429185104713.52887.1685400099&type=1&theater

It's totally a football thing ;)

DisneyGeek
01-03-2012, 06:49 PM
MrR- Will those be the same 6 classics as your wife, and if so, do you buy one copy and hand it down after reading it or do you read the title simultaneously to foster book discussions in near real time?

Roz- Were you doing much dancing with that unnamed guy you married?

CN- The link didn't work for me to the shirts, but I think you'll be fine on race days. Don't give up! Walk maybe, but don't give up!!! :hug1:

Rozzie
01-04-2012, 04:55 AM
DG, we'll read then have discussions. :thumbsup2:

Beth I hear ya'. I broke down and started crying this morning. Woke up to run (Dr's orders!) and my foot was killing me, probably the worst it's felt. In my mind I knew not to be surprised with all the work I had done on it yesterday but it still is really getting me down. We will try to stay upbeat! Have a safe trip down this morning. Jealous I am!!!

Nono, are you still alive? :listen:

nono
01-04-2012, 06:12 AM
Nono, how is your foot doing? :listen:





I haven't sawed it off yet. :thumbsup2:

nono
01-04-2012, 06:21 AM
Nono, are you still alive? :listen:

Yes, and my family is lucky they are. Less than stellar week so far here in WDW. Attitude problems in the family. Today my MIL arrives. I'm actually looking forward to seeing her! (That should frame out how the week has been going). 28 F temps this morning aren't helping us get going. Gonna wake up dd now because she wants to get a run in. See everyone soon!

withdisneyspirit
01-04-2012, 07:16 AM
Yuck, freezing in WDW! :covermouth:

So sorry to hear about the strain, Rozzie. :oweye:

I know the feeling about chucking it all, CN, although I am pretty sure none of us will.:silly:

My doc says bronchitis and gave me a Z Pac. He says my tonsil is healing and I sure hope he is right. He wrote in my chart that my tonsillar abscess is resolving...

We leave late this afternoon and will stay overnight somewhere along the way so that we arrive about lunch tomorrow :D already got an email reminding us of our first ressie! Did all of you do online check-in? I haven't this time - is it a bad idea not to?

cloudnut220
01-04-2012, 07:25 AM
On the ground at MCo 30! Minutes early.

Nono if you need to drink today im available!

DisneyGeek
01-04-2012, 11:39 AM
Roz &amp; nono- Sorry things aren't going well of late. :(

Lisas- I hope the Z works!

CN- I'm jelous... Only 1.5 work days left for me at least.

Did 32 min ellip this morning. Right ear hurts a bit currently, probably sinus related. Really lousy headache &amp; slept terribly Monday night so I took Tuesday off from exercise. Thankfully I slept much better last night!

See everyone soon!

BTW, we got a 4th entree choice on the menu for Sunday night less than an hour ago- Fish &amp; Chips. Not my think, but they say its popular... ;)

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mickeyndvcfan
01-04-2012, 08:06 PM
:hug1::hug1: everyone!!!! I'm sure glad that I don't have any aches and pains to go along with trying to get everything packed and taking care of my DH. It's starting to freak me out now that I'm going to be doing this on Sunday. What was I thinking!!! :oweye: Looking forward to seeing everyone!

DisneyGeek
01-04-2012, 08:16 PM
It's starting to freak me out now that I'm going to be doing this on Sunday. What was I thinking!!! :oweye: Looking forward to seeing everyone!

I'm right there with ya' on all of the above!!! :rotfl2: We'll both do great though- just keep repeating that. ;)

Rozzie
01-05-2012, 04:51 AM
MG, you are going to be just fine!! You and DG I think are the only healthy ones out of this whole bunch. See ya tonight!! (I love saying that!)

Had another ultrasound treatment yesterday and hoping to fit one more in before we leave today. I haven't run since Monday, my longest layoff since post Goofy last year. I say right now I am 50/50. Had more swelling and pain yesterday, but my massage girl did some, uh alternative therapy on it and I am believing in it. Heck, hand over the crystals, mantras, positive energy flow treatments, music therapy and everything else I used to think was a little too new agey hippy. (yes Nono, can you believe I thought someone was too hippy? :grin:)

Cyle, I PMd you here and FB with my cells. I hope you got them! Can't wait to meet you!!

cloudnut220
01-05-2012, 06:20 AM
Greetings from a very cold WDW! I wore my down jacket ALL DAY yesterday at IOA. Had a super fun day with my sister and her fiance, although we discovered that a cold day is a very bad day to do IOA. Since so many of the rides are water rides, when it's cold it really takes the capacity down. So even in the afternoon the line for Forbidden Journey was listed at 90 minutes. We sucked it up and got in line, and then the ride went down TWICE so we ended up waiting something like 2 1/2 hours. At the point the ride went down, we had already invested so much time we didn't want to leave. Sad thing is we were in line so long I could feel myself getting really hungry which is a guarantee for motion sickness for me, so I didn't ride. Then we lost our car in the parking lot, and I fell, which made the foot feel not so good. I can't figure out what is going on there...

Excited to see everyone!

cyl-e
01-05-2012, 08:36 AM
CN - sorry to hear your day at IOA wasn't that great. it's on our list of things to do - to get over to see the Harry Potter land

I'm jealous of all of you down there already - I don't leave until mid-day tomorrow.

This has kind of crept up on me - I think I may have been taking the whole "run a half-marathon" pretty lightly - need to get a little more focused on food, what I'll wear, etc.

I'm really glad that i'll have you folks there - I haven't done a trip to the world solo before - so it will be a new adventure! I'm looking forward to meeting you all.

I'll keep my fingers and toes crossed that all of the injuries are just taper-stress-related and will subside for you all to have great marathons and half-marathons.

DisneyGeek
01-05-2012, 09:40 AM
Roz- Hope the hippy stuff works; maybe you should try and stick your foot in the Hippy Dippy pool @ POP...

CN- That is the dark side for ya'! ;)

Cyl- Hope u enjoy going solo &amp; we'll see you soon.

So how many of us are staying @ BLT?

Plan to wash some clothes (including new Team shirt &amp; race trunks) tonight &amp; start packing- scheduled take off is in 30 hours 19 minutes &amp; change, but who's counting? :silly:

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cloudnut220
01-05-2012, 10:00 AM
Just sat down to see war horse at dtd. The temptation to park hop was too great and I currently don't have access to a room (no key at akl and room isn't ready at Blt) and o stupidly checked my book! So a nice long movie it is! Im actually in the dine in theatre but none of the food seems very appealing (think applebees)

Rozzie
01-05-2012, 05:49 PM
Does the horse die?

On the road about to make turn South. I think John can testify the panhandle of FL goes on for 5000 miles. Oh I miss the days when we were FL residents..

So we got 2 cases of wine, bottle of vodka, bottle of. Baileys, peppermint mocha Kahlua, airplane bottles for the parks, bloody Mary mix, 15 wine glasses, and a wine key. Beer to buy @ WF, we love the local microbrews.

Yep, the Rozzies are officially on vacation.

cyl-e
01-05-2012, 06:58 PM
Okay - goals for this weekend:
Gold 1:48
Silver 1:49
Bronze 1:50

Haven't set goals yet for the year - need to work on that, maybe this weekend...

CN - i'll be interested to hear how you liked war horse - it sounds interesting

cloudnut220
01-05-2012, 08:54 PM
I thought war horse was really good. So was seeing the nonos and dinner at cape may! Finally got settled into Blt

jrbdad
01-06-2012, 09:20 AM
Hope everyone has a wonderful time and heals :).

withdisneyspirit
01-06-2012, 06:59 PM
So, our lake view ended up including a full view of the fireworks too, wow! Getting ready to go watch with the music playing on TV! I am still trying to feel better so I am very nervous overall. We ran into Carrie, Scott and her parents at Kona tonight. That was cool! Wish I had seen more Peacocks!

Rozzie
01-06-2012, 07:17 PM
Lisa, you are here!! About to get ready for EWP now...

DisneyGeek
01-06-2012, 09:37 PM
E & I are settled in to BLT. I've started a TR thread, and can't wait to start seeing the team soon! I understand there is a meetup to cheer on those in the half tomorrow @ 6; if I'm awake I may try and join in but I originally was planning on trying to get as much sleep as a I can tonight since I know I won't sleep a lot tomorrow due to schedule and NERVES! ;) Then again, I could always wake up, cheer :cheerleader:, then come back to the room and crash for a few more hours... :scratchchin:

DisneyGeek
01-06-2012, 09:42 PM
CN- Glad you are settled and liked the movie!

Lisa- Congrats on the view; score! :thumbsup2:


Lisa, you are here!! About to get ready for EWP now...

Where did you watch from? We were out by BLT's hot tub when EWP came through at 10:10... :silly:


Posting while glancing out @ Cindy's castle is really nice; Dreamlights are quite pretty. :goodvibes:

withdisneyspirit
01-07-2012, 08:42 AM
It was great to cheer on our Peacocks, Beth, Amanda,and Noel this morning for the Half! We kept our eyes peeled for Carrie and Scott.. Tracking showed them at a nice pace but we didnit find them... We are meeting at the orange striped tent tomorrow for our races 😃 see you all there!

DisneyGeek
01-07-2012, 10:07 AM
Congrats to everyone in the half! Sorry I wasn't there to watch, but it was closing in on 1 AM before we got our luggage and I didn't actually fall asleep until close to 3 AM. i don't do well on 3 hrs sleep... We are on an event bus to the Expo now so I can do packet pickup &amp; E get her ChEAR Squad stuff. :)

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DisneyGeek
01-07-2012, 12:33 PM
Expo pickup done; I'm on a bus from ESPN heading to Via Napoli via Beach Club. DW will meet me there; she went back to the room after signing for her wristband; we both forgot to make our meds &amp; vitamens this morning- OOOOP! :oweeye: They ran out of ChEAR Squad clappers for her though. :( I went back and signed DW up to get some mailed 2 her. Kinda' ticked since we bought them IN MARCH but what can you do?

On the positive side, I met Jeff Gallaway and got his autograph &amp; my picture taken w/ him. :) He thinks I should run 1 min walk 1 for the first 18 miles then go to run 2 walk 1 if I feel up to it @ the end. I've done all sorts of different interals in training depending on the day, and I really like that suggestion so that is my current goal. Another goal should be easy to incorporate; since I finished my first half faster than my dad did his best full, I want to finish my first full faster than my dad's 6:57 he pulled for a 50 mile ultra. That'll keep me in the "half as fast as my dad" barn at least! ;)

Another plus- registered for the DL Half here and got a free Coast to Coast bag! I also bought a "stick" massager for tomorrow (hendging my bets), a polo shirt, 2 t-shirts, and 2 magnets for me + a third as a gift. E leaving me in Expo alone was expensive!!!

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cyl-e
01-07-2012, 12:50 PM
Can't wait to meet you DG!
Had a really fun time this morning cheering with the other Peacocks. And then Rozzie, Mr Roz, and Gail were so nice to invite me over for lunch - may have stayed longer than they wished
Looking forward to meeting up at orange and white tent tomorrow

nono
01-07-2012, 04:38 PM
Looking forward to meeting up at orange and white tent tomorrow

Nice meeting up with you today cyl-e! And, first crisis averted -- caught that my alarm was set for M-F -- which meant it would not have gone off tomorrow morning! :scared07:

Dinner is done. My kids are singing Alvin & the Chipmunks Christmas songs. Somehow, I don't think I'll mind spending a few hours away from everyone on the course tomorrow. :grin: Folks, they are going to try to cheer from DHS, probably the NY street area. Good rests to all!

Rozzie
01-07-2012, 06:52 PM
Cycle, it was great to have you over!!!! Don't be a silly goose!

Boys are watching Saints game, I am tucked away watching my girl Mulan on laptop. Will be so happy to have us all together showing off our medals @ RR. We will all get through this, one way or another.

As for me, I will go forward with ease and joy.