Running Disney

[cloudnut220]

I wonder about trying a "non-stability" shoe for my running and see how that works for me. I know I (at least historically) have been an over pronater, but now that I actually run regularly do I still need to try and have my shoes correct for that? :scratchchin:

Have you ever had a gait analysis done? Like I said, even AFTER I had one done and was told I overpronated, the doc and PT DID NOT want to correct for it until I started having serious, sudden, it hurt to walk tendon pain. And if my strenghtening goes well, the doctor thinks I may not need the insoles forever. I'm no longer wearing them in regular shoes.

[DisneyGeek]

Have you ever had a gait analysis done?

I had some orthodics made while I was in college and wore them for a while, but I don't remember if they did a full blown gait analysis and even if they did a lot may have changed since then. Other than that I've just been looked at a few times in shoe stores and been told I was fairly neutral when walking but over-pronated some when I ran, so I was steered toward a support shoe. Weight may also factor in, I dunno... :confused24:

I'm looking at a clearance Saucony ProGrid Guide 3 right now; it is still a support shoe but I'm curious to try the brand. :silly: One odd thing; Shoefitr on RW says I should go for an 11, but doesn't specify if an 11 D will work despite my using a 11.5 2E for my fav. Brooks Adrenaline GTS 9 reference shoe...

Anyone know if Shoefitr takes into account the shoe's width (D, 2E, 4E, etc.) in its recommendations, or if it just kinda' ignores that and assumes you will pick the same one in the new shoes? :scratchchin:

[Rozzie]

They did come highly recommended by the teenager working at the Reebok Outlet Store in Foley, Alabama :D.
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Well John, that is your first problem. Listening to anyone from Foley, AL. *Ex-Foley-ite here, and attended school in Foley from 1st grade to 10th grade. That little tid-bit will also help shed some light on my terrible grammar skills. :grin:


Roz....ressies made, we're in for VWL. :D

Sweeeeet! :goodvibes:

[cloudnut220]

I ran three miles at a pretty good pace tonight. No pain during, of course my "hot spot" is really sore after. Just did some massage with the ice cup, might do some more later...

[nono]

Mini-taper starts now! I only have 1.5 mi walking uphill to do tomorrow, and then it's pure rest until race day! I can use it. What a steep run-up.

Now if I can keep my calf connected to its bone. That'd be good...:D

[cloudnut220]

nono--no muscle bone separation!

[Mr. Roz]

:D Just for the record, I'm not against neutral shoes. Neutral = :thumbsup2: in my world. Neutral makes my heart sing. :cloud9: Motion control and stability (for the masses) gives me the willies!

(Just using lots of smilies to see if we get a last post out of Mr. Roz before he goes international).


:wave: Hey It worked.

Way behind here. Just trying to tie up so many loose ends before I leave. Valentines weekend is only our busiest all year and I have to prepare and plan all that Plus trying to get things together.

Nono thanks for the advice on the trip. I should get my sleep in order by then.

We are supposed to have a 2 hour break each day from 3-5. I plan on getting at least 5-7 miles in around the Tuscan Farmhouse and vineyards. The Rocca Della Machie is in the heart of Tuscany and somewhat off to itself. Lots of rolling hills and such. Look forward to hitting those hard.

I have manged to get a little tendon soreness in my left foot. I am no longer ignoring it and taking it to the Doc tomorrow. I plan on dropping it off there. No way I'm taking a sore foot to Italy with me this week.

[SISrunner]

John, CN, Nono, DG, and others with shoe issues: I am a former specialty running store manager. If possible, you should find small, independent stores that employ knowledgable runners to fit you with the proper shoes. All types of feet require all types of shoes, so I think there is definitely a need for motion control, stability, and neutral shoes.

If you're curious about whether your shoes are the right kind for you, look at the bottoms. In the forefoot, you should be wearing directly up the center of the sole. If you wear to the outside, you underpronate and may need less support. If you wear to the inside, you overpronate and may need more support. Hope that helps! :goodvibes:

Oh, and almost everybody wears the outside edge of the heel; that is where your foot strikes. :thumbsup2:

[DisneyGeek]

nono- Yeah, I also vote for keeping things attached! :thumbsup2:

MrR- GL w/ everything & hope that foot drop off works for you. ;)

SIS- Thanks; I think I've been good on my stability shoes, but I will double check the ones I've got some significant miles on soon... :silly:

So I didn't get my shots until after 3, didn't leave work until after 7:30, and was late to start the net I run. :rolleyes: Less than ideal night. Finally ate some dinner after all that and this became a rest day. My hope is to go to bed NOW and run tomorrow morning since I'm busy tomorrow night. More important to me that I get my running days in than my elliptical or swims anyhow, so I decided to prioritize!

I didn't order any shoes but I did grab 2 new pairs of running shorts off Running Warehouse that they had on sale. Truth be told, I need the shorts a lot more right now anyway; I've got two pairs of shoes from Christmas on deck that I've each only run in once for <5 miles so far! :grin: (I'm still waiting for me to wear down some of my others a bit more before the new ones go into active rotation...)

[nono]

We are supposed to have a 2 hour break each day from 3-5. I plan on getting at least 5-7 miles in around the Tuscan Farmhouse and vineyards. The Rocca Della Machie is in the heart of Tuscany and somewhat off to itself. Lots of rolling hills and such. Look forward to hitting those hard.



Take pictures!!!!

[nono]

John, CN, Nono, DG, and others with shoe issues:

Oh, I don't have shoe issues. I have issues with the shoe industry. :grin:

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2008/03/running-shoes-solution-or-problem.html

(Yes, team, yet another link...rehashing the same stuff, but in a different format!)

A fairly well-balanced article from a total lib publication :D:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/30/business/30shoe.html?_r=1&th&emc=th


I would be willing to place a $100+ bet on how many motion control models exist in 5 years. I say the number falls off a cliff. Anyone want to take that action??

[Rozzie]

I would be willing to place a $100+ bet on how many motion control models exist in 5 years. I say the number falls off a cliff. Anyone want to take that action??

Ha! It's a good bet and I am willing to side with you. Especially now the miminal shoe craze is in full swing. (which is a good craze...) I been in shoe hell past couple weeks, everytime I try to get out of my precisions, another shoe messes with my legs. OF course new Precisions are out now, and in describing them they said "more cushioning". :oweye: That's what I liked about them, they were lightweight very neutral trainers with hardly any cushion. :oweye: :oweye: I got one pair left on top of closet. I will probably hoard those as long as I can. I HATE SHOE COMPANIES!!!!!!!!! :mad: Oh yes, forgot to add, I overpronate and have very high rigid arches and I run neutral. :-)

[nono]

Heh, Rozzie, here I thought you were popping in to note that I meant the entire shoe industry (esp. since on our run in Dec., you and Mr. Roz had to listen to my lecture about ill-fitting fashion shoes being such a crock :grin: ).

Just a 1.5 mile walk on tap this morning on the TM. We had a bit of snow overnight, so I'm staying inside.

[cloudnut220]

We are supposed to have a 2 hour break each day from 3-5. I plan on getting at least 5-7 miles in around the Tuscan Farmhouse and vineyards. The Rocca Della Machie is in the heart of Tuscany and somewhat off to itself. Lots of rolling hills and such. Look forward to hitting those hard.

I have manged to get a little tendon soreness in my left foot. I am no longer ignoring it and taking it to the Doc tomorrow. I plan on dropping it off there. No way I'm taking a sore foot to Italy with me this week.

Remember to have a good time! Drink Chianti, eat lots of bread dipped in olive oil! We really like Tuscany when we were there in 2007.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you tendon.

Kandi--I don't have shoe problems either--I run the same way in shoes or out!

[withdisneyspirit]

Can't take that bet, nono, since I also agree with a lot of what you said! Based on SIS' post, I underpronate and need less cushion. That is what I am doing - getting used to shoes with less cushion :goodvibes:

Hey, nono, we got snow overnight too! :D There has been multiple occasions with snow this year in Bormingham - totally unheard of :grin: What happened to global warming? :rotfl2:

[withdisneyspirit]

Have an absolutely wonderful trip, Mr. Roz! :yahoo: I hope Valentine's weekend is a very prosperous one too :cheerleader:

[MatterhornMiss]

Anyone ever taken Bee Pollen? My books wants me to sprinkle it on my steel cut oats every morning. Been doing some research and wow, this is a wonder from nature. Anything from increasing metabolism to improving athletic performance and everything in between. I guess it can't hurt? :scratchchin:

Funny you should bring that up! There is a guy at the farmers' market that sells honey and bee pollen and was really pushing it. I might try one of the smaller bottles. I also have recently heard a lot of praise about anti-inflammatory properties of tart cherries and how it is supposed to improve performance.


I would be remiss if I didn't say that Kandi and her DH, John, are 2 of the nicest people you are ever likely to meet.

Nick

Welcome back out of lurkland yourself, NJN!


So is the Fleet Feet store just like an Athlete's Foot or a Foot Locker? Maybe I don't need to waste my time?

After some research, I think I need Motion Control shoes? Particularly due to an old ankle injury. The Runner's World shoe app recommended about 7 different kinds. I'm looking at the Nike Zoom Equalon (sp?).
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I will put my two cents in about shoes, which you can take or leave and I won't care either way. I've been to Fleet Feet in two different states and I've been to a locally owned running store in my old town of Louisville (which is consistently rated one of the country's top 25) and I wasn't impressed with either. All of the places automatically pulled a bunch of stability shoes out and had me try them on. To be honest, I don't know how much they contributed to injuries--for me I think my hip issues caused more of a problem than shoes as changing shoes hasn't corrected any problems--but I don't know they were right for me. (A complete sort of tangent--I read an article in Runner's World of a small study where they actually "fit" women with stability, motion controlled, and neutral shoes and then . . . well, it will take me too long to type it all out. Check it out here http://peakperformance.runnersworld.com/2010/08/aug-1-what-kind-of-running-shoe-is-most-likely-to-cause-an-injury.html I can totally get the point of the article as it has been my experience. Okay nono, now tear it apart ;))

Anyway, I had a sports med doc tell me don't worry about this kind of shoe or that kind of shoe. Try on as many different shoes as you can and find what works for you. I am applying that to my shoe hunting now. Whatever you do, buy from a place that has a generous shoe return policy. Fleet Feet usually does (just tell them to leave you alone except to keep bringing out shoes) and RoadRunnerSports.com does too. Most running stores let you run a little bit outside or on a TM. But for me, there is a big difference between TM or brief running outside and distance training. And gait analysis on a TM is next to worthless for me. I never can get settled into what feels like a comfortable gait on the TM. If you want a gait analysis and run on the roads, make them watch you run outside on the pavement.

Okay, so that's my opinion. Take it or leave it--it doesn't matter to me. Good luck!


Welcome SISrunner!

[MatterhornMiss]

Well, I'm still at home. We had a couple of inches fall yesterday right before rush hour and it all became packed into an icy mess. It took me 3 hours and 20 minutes to get home from work. It is usually a 35 min drive. And things aren't much better this morning. Part of the problem (besides mid TN's inability to cope with such weather) is the fact that there are big hills all around middle Tennessee. Traffic is going so slowly that many cars and especially big trucks get stuck halfway up. It's nasty. I shouldn't go in, but if I don't, I have to take PTO. I think I should just suck it up and do so because if I get stuck on the interstate I'm just going to be more angry.

I also feel like crap because my daily trip to the Y couldn't happen yesterday. I'm in withdrawal!

[MatterhornMiss]

Well, I decided to bite the bullet and just take the day off. I think it is the wisest decision, though I am still frustrated that the organization for which I work puts its staff in the position to either risk safety coming in or use earned vacation time, not to mention their clients, with its "we never close" policy. So ridiculous. I would think they lose more money staying open than actually closing for the day. :mad:

[MatterhornMiss]

I completely forgot to share the latest bit of stupidity I've been contemplating. So, my sister and a friend of hers and I are planning a trip to WDW in October during what would be her fall break. Wouldn't you know but that the W&D half is the night we plan on arriving. Well, you know me when it comes to Disney races (or maybe you don't, but I'm a sucker for them)--especially this one. I have a special place in my heart for this one as it replaced the race that go me started in running, the Race for the Taste 10K. And I want that medal :D

The thing is, I will have to arrive after driving for 12 hours (my sister doesn't want to fly) and I will have just run the Akron full the week before. And you all know how well my last attempt at running a half 6 days after a full went ;) So I haven't decided. But I'm seriously leaning towards it.

Oh, and that day (October 1) is also the 40th anniversary of the opening of WDW!

[Mr. Roz]

I have often wondered what over pronation and supination has to do with the surface you run on.
For my first year of running, I ran with support shoes. I was put into a support shoe for pronation based on the wear on my shoe soles.

Incidently, I ran injured or hurting for the most part of that year. We took time out and traveled to a great running store that videoed your run and discovered that I ran neutral. The wear is slightly better and the hurt and injuries are minimal.

Most running stores have a natural assumption that you are running on a perfectly flat surface. Almost all roads are angled for water drainoff. That's why in races you want to be in the center as much as possible. I learned this the hard way during NoLa.

You can work on form,stride and gate and that could benefit you more than some shoes. I say find a make or model that fits great and that you are comfortable in and stay with it.

[MatterhornMiss]

You can work on form,stride and gate and that could benefit you more than some shoes. I say find a make or model that fits great and that you are comfortable in and stay with it.

I think that's a great philosophy!

[cloudnut220]

I think that's a great philosophy!

Me too! I've been trying to work on form these last couple of runs...focusing on running really upright, feeling like I have something attached to my head pulling me up...it's like yoga but running!

[Rozzie]

Form is sooooo important. Leaning forward and faster footstrike (like running on water) has really made a difference with my running.
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[DisneyGeek]

the W&D half is the night we plan on arriving.
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and I will have just run the Akron full the week before. And you all know how well my last attempt at running a half 6 days after a full went

What about doing W&D relay (http://adisneyworldsports.disney.go.com/media/ewwos/pdf/sports/rundisney/RelayFRI.pdf)? :scratchchin: I think that'll still get ya' da' bling, won't it? Just a thought...

For shoes, I might have a little more wear on the outside on my 'mill shoes (especially the NBs) but nothing significant, and I don't see much at all on my current outdoor shoes... I might regret it, but perhaps I will ask lil' bro and/or my dad to watch my gait before I buy my next pair of shoes and get their opinion! :covermouth: Did I ever mention little bro. worked in a dedicated running shoe store while he was in college IIRC? :confused: Yeah, more droning on about many of my relatives being die hard runners- broken record broken record broken record! ;)

[DisneyGeek]

Oh yeah- I may need to look into posture more while running... :p

Banged out my planned 45 min. on mill this morning. Having a good day so far; bagged a THV ressie and a presentation I made this morning ROCKED; both my boss and his complemented me on it. :D

Well, back to work! :wave:

[cloudnut220]

I kind of really want to W&D...but two problems...Noel would kill me if I asked to go then, and the late start time...

[MatterhornMiss]

If I remember correctly the relay medal is smaller. Hey I guess that might answer our question about the marathon relay medals. No if I do it I will do all of it. Plus I don't have anyone to run the relay with me. This is a different sister.
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[DisneyGeek]

This is a different sister.

:oweye: OK, that might be a problem. Interesting on it being a smaller (or at least different!) medal, and per previous discussions that seems appropriate! I wonder what the Akron full relay vs. individual medals will be like... :scratchchin: We'll just have to compare after the race! :grin:

[Rozzie]

Well MM, last year you were injured. This year is your year to be healthy. Besides, now you know you can walk a entire half no problem. :)

Hey I like these doubles! Got it figured that I can get my 40 miles in 4 days and still take Sunday off. :w00t:

[SISrunner]

MM, I think you can do anything you put your mind to. If you love Disney races as much as I do, you can just run on the adrenaline from the fun and excitement of the race. :)

[MatterhornMiss]

(double post)

[MatterhornMiss]

Got out and ran 4 miles after much of the snow and ice melted. It never got above freezing, but the sun was out. Still, that was deceptive as it looked warmer than it actually was. I just couldn't be on the TM when it was sunny out. The TM really seems almost like punishment to me, even though I can run faster on it. At least I feel I'm actually going somewhere outside.

If you will let me to take a detour from running, may I ask if anyone makes food for his or her dogs? I looked into it before but never did anything. I think now I'm at a different place, environmentally/health wise. Or I might try and go for a better quality dog food.

[cloudnut220]

we feed our cats Chicken Soup for the Cat Lovers Soul. Seems a lot better than Iams!

[Mr. Roz]

we feed our cats Chicken Soup for the Cat Lovers Soul. Seems a lot better than Iams!


I am reading "Chicken Soup for the Runners Soul". Great stories except for the one about.. nevermind.

[Rozzie]

If you will let me to take a detour from running, may I ask if anyone makes food for his or her dogs? I looked into it before but never did anything. I think now I'm at a different place, environmentally/health wise. Or I might try and go for a better quality dog food.

I worked with a dietician at my old hospital that did agility with Border Collies. Those dogs were incredible, also were therapy dogs. Anyhoo, she fed that diet--what's the name of it--where you cook everything natural for them. They never needed their teeth cleaned, their coats glistened, and not one of them ever had any type of allergy. I think she did a lot of chicken necks and veggies. She was very nazi about it.

I tried Bark at the Moon Organic dog food ($$$) but as you know, Greyhounds have zero body fat. (this was after china dog food scare) I took them into vet one visit and all the hounds had lost weight. I didn't really notice, but my vet sure did. You are supposed to always see last 2 ribs on a greyhound for perfect body weight, but there is not a lot of room for error. She said the organic stuff did not have enough crude fat for them and to try something else. I finally settled on Purina One Pro Plan. I don't like the ingredients all that much, but Tater is prone to Gastritis and is super picky and it's the only food I have found that meets both those requirements.

I am very strict with treats. They either get organic apples, carrots, yogurt or clean dog treats from farmers market. (sometimes clean treats from PetSmart that have less than 5 ingredients) Never table scraps from what we are eating. (I try to enforce this with my mom, and she drives me crazy when she goes against my wishes) They LOVE carrots and think they are little pieces of steak.

I would love to have the time to cook up brown rice, chicken necks and veggies for them for every meal. I know some other dog people that do that on SUndays and cook for the week. I have a hard time keeping up with our caloric needs. :blush:

[jrbdad]

MM-

Just catching up -- thank you for your opinion on shoe stores.

We have a couple of locally owned stores here, but they focus on football & baseball. We do have Hibbetts and Academy, but I might be just as good with the "Foley-ite" at the outlet store ;).

Hoping to have time to at least go by the Fleet Feet store when we are in South Louisiana. Hoping even more that my knee will be healed by then -- two more weeks.

Feeling a little better -- but I can't tell if that's just because I'm OD'ing on Tumeric :thumbsup2:

[withdisneyspirit]

I never thought I would feel like the treadmill is punishment compared to running outside but now I do! :( I really need a new recumbent bike for my cross training to be really happy again :rolleyes:

In other much better news, I am down 9.8 pounds as of today. I find it super difficult to lose weight now that I am of a "certain" age! :silly: I can't wait until I can really tell that my closthes are getting more comfortable! :fingerscrossed:

[Mr. Roz]

DG! I found your crosstraining video.



YouTube - Ctina on an EliptiGo

[SISrunner]

John - glad you're feeling better.:)

Lisa - congrats on the wt loss!:cheerleader:

Mr. Roz - where do I get one of those? It looks like fun.

We feed our dogs Verus food, a high-end brand found in specialty stores. Just last week at the farmer's market we were talking to the poultry guy about switching to the raw-chicken diet. He said his dog was allergic to everything but after switching to the chicken, the allergies cleared up. It sounds like a good idea and we were thinking about comparing the costs of chicken vs. Verus. :scratchchin:

[cloudnut220]

So I had a coworker do something fantastically awful today at work. It's a good thing I was only scheduled to work a half day, because I pretty much lost it (this is a big deal, because despite how neurotic I may seem on here, I'm pretty level headed at work). So now I'm trying to decide how to work it out--over a whole bowl of cookie dough and a bottle of wine or with a run. Is there something wrong with me that I see these as two logical options? I'm already drowning my anger with a carb bomb...errr panera bagel.

[Mr. Roz]

So I had a coworker do something fantastically awful today at work. It's a good thing I was only scheduled to work a half day, because I pretty much lost it (this is a big deal, because despite how neurotic I may seem on here, I'm pretty level headed at work). So now I'm trying to decide how to work it out--over a whole bowl of cookie dough and a bottle of wine or with a run. Is there something wrong with me that I see these as two logical options? I'm already drowning my anger with a carb bomb...errr panera bagel.


I say run the :pooh:out of it. Get your head clear and THEN hit the bagel and wine

[jrbdad]

I say run the :pooh:out of it. Get your head clear and THEN hit the bagel and wine

That's exactly what I was going to say, well except the Pooh part, but I liked that. Maybe skip the bagel & go for 2 wines?

But definitely run, since I still can't - you are doing it for me in addition to doing it for yourself.

Feel better.
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[SISrunner]

Definitely run!

[cloudnut220]

oh the bagel is looooong gone...

[cloudnut220]

but I should say that I actually broke down and bought myself a diet soda with the bagel but after two sips, I threw it out. I used to LOOOOOOOVE diet soda, and now I've just lost the taste for it.

[Mr. Roz]

oh the bagel is looooong gone...


Was it a wheat bagel?

[cloudnut220]

it was trail mix...so at least it had dried fruit and sunflower seeds in it.

I just got back from running 4 miles. They were slow, but it felt good.

[jrbdad]

What kind of wine are we having?
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[cloudnut220]

What kind of wine are we having?
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If we stop at the liquor store on the way to the beach, my all time favorite, Pouilly-Fuisse--if not I'll drink what ever white I can get my hands on. The drier the better!

We made a relatively last minute decision to go to the beach--tomorrow is Noel's birthday, and it turns out I'm not working, so we're going!

[Rozzie]

What kind of wine are we having?
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I am about to crack open a hard cider. :biggulp: Did 6 miles this morning, and was supposed to 4 miles this afternoon with Mr Roz. Ran my arse off at work, never sat down once the entire time I was there. So I figured I go my 4 miles in, my legs were killing me. :silly: I know excuses, excuses. I got 13 miler in the morning, and we are waking up at 0200 to do it before his flight. (when did this all become normal?) I am still trying to justify the bail out in my mind...

Beth, don't feel bad. I am eating very bad this weekend as I start my clean diet Monday. I want to shock my body hard so I figured I can have crap for 2 days. Not really fast food crap, but very fattening homemade food. :eating:

[jrbdad]

Tomorrow is my DW's Bday too! Happy Birthday to Noel.
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[cloudnut220]

and happy birthday to your DW!

[nono]

Nightmare about a race last night.

Check.

Thai food for lunch today.

Check.

In jammies already.

Check.

Know where the staritng line for tomorrow's race is.

:oweye: I have become sooooo lax about my racing.

Here's hoping for a fun outing tomorrow...once I find the starting line....

[mickeyndvcfan]

Nightmare about a race last night.

Check.

Thai food for lunch today.

Check.

In jammies already.

Check.

Know where the staritng line for tomorrow's race is.

:oweye: I have become sooooo lax about my racing.

Here's hoping for a fun outing tomorrow...once I find the starting line....


You'll be fine....HAVE A GREAT FUN RACE!!!!:rocker:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Happy Birthday Noel and jrbdad's DW

:hbday::party1::shots::hbleft::hbsong:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Mr. Roz.....have a safe trip and have a great time!!

[Rozzie]

Nono, how is the calf???? GOOD LUCK!! Make sure you report as soon as you can. I will be on pins and needles to see how you come out. :goodvibes:

Happy Birthday Noel and Mrs jrbdad! :wave:

[MatterhornMiss]

Good luck, nono! :cheerleader:

[Mr. Roz]

--tomorrow is Noel's birthday, and it turns out I'm not working


To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!

Macbeth act 5 scene 5

Happy Birthday to Mr. Nut and JRBDad.

Good Running NoNo.

Bella Notte

[Mr. Roz]

Considering It's Valentines Weekend and I'm going to Italy..




YouTube - Bella Notte - Lady and the Tramp

[cloudnut220]

Have a great trip Mr. Roz!

Nono-have a great race!

Lisa-is mercedes on sunday?

Just got to the beach. We stopped at the Whole Foods in Annapolis on the way to get dinner and some nitrate free bacon for Noel's bday brekkie. Then I think the plan is to go to Dogfish Head and drink beer all day.
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[withdisneyspirit]

I did my best to get on here last night and post! I couldn't read the last two pages (they would not open) :confused24: so I gave up and went to read my book! :cloud9:

Yes, the Mercedes Half is tomorrow. Rick and I are still sniffling a bit but hopefully we will be alright! :fingerscrossed: I never got to test my inhaler but I will take it for the race and use it about 30 minutes before. I'm not very proficient at using an inhaler - any tips for me? I'm not worried about time this race...

Go tear it up, nono!!! :cheerleader: :goodvibes:

Happy Birthday to Noel and John's DW!!!! :hbday::hbleft::party1: Have fun at the beach, Beth!!

Love the Bella Notte scene, Mr. Roz! Enjoy your last hurrah, Rozzie!

[nono]

Done. My island buddy PRed. He came in about 3 min ahead of me. I may have PRed. I'm not sure we were chip timed. Supposedly there was a bib chip, but no mats...so :confused24:. We'll find out later. No order of finish posted at the event, but hey it was a very nice race. Low key, the way I like it. Probably a bit too low key for some folks, but you know, we each have our preferences!

As soon as I know more, I'll let you know!

[Rozzie]

Considering It's Valentines Weekend and I'm going to Italy..




YouTube - Bella Notte - Lady and the Tramp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WxDdz-Anls)

HA! I love it. I knew you would leave me a Valentine card somewhere before you left. ;) :goodvibes:

Nice job Nono! How did the calf hold up? Sounds like a race I would like a lot. Love those low key ones. :thumbsup2:

Good luck Lisa and Rick!! I promise one of these days Mr Roz and I will join you at this race. Can't wait to read all about it tomorrow. :)

Beth, I soooo wish I was there with you. I Love that BEER!! :biggulp:

[jrbdad]

Nono-

Congrats on the race. :thumbsup2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Great job nono....can't wait to hear about the race. Was the race anywhere near Disney's resort?

[nono]

Nice job Nono! How did the calf hold up? Sounds like a race I would like a lot. Love those low key ones. :thumbsup2:


Calf is abouit 95%. Of course, I was so numb (shorts in 36F) that maybe it hurt but I couldn't tell. :grin: I was glad to be in those shorts by the end...I think it was about 47F by the end of the race. One of those days where there was no right way to dress because at some point you'd be either freezing or sweating too much.

I did, sort of, accomplish my objective of a progression run. Let's just say the splits at the end were indeed faster than the earlier ones, but it was more like I did my middle splits first, then went back to the slower splits to hang in there, then went to the plan for the end of the race with the fastest times. However, I couldn't quite maintain an 8 min mile at the end...but since I haven't run 13.1 since the OUC in Dec., I'm not upset about that! ;) Then add in 4 weeks of illness, and I'm about as pleased as can be!

Gail, I'll do a real race report tomorrow. Still a little fuzzy on some of the details. I hope overnight to remember more!

[nono]

Lisa and Rick -- HAVE A BLAST TOMORROW!!!!!!!

[nono]

OMG OMG OMG!

I placed second in my age group and didn't know because I was too cold and left!



And, yes, it's a PR by 7 seconds. I was 15 sec. off clock, so it was closer to a 23 sec. PR, but that doesn't count except for horse shoes and hand grenades! :p

[mickeyndvcfan]

OMG OMG OMG!

I placed second in my age group and didn't know because I was too cold and left!

Age Group Race Results Report as of 2/12/2011 10:40:34 AM - Female 45 - 49
Place Bib # Name Time Age Sex City ST
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________
1 422 FAITH SEIDERS 01:49:11 45 F HILTON HEAD SC
2 438 NOEL SMITH 01:53:38 46 F WILDWOOD CREST NJ
3 169 TERRY GAULT 01:54:00 49 F HILTON HEAD SC


And, yes, it's a PR by 7 seconds. I was 15 sec. off clock, so it was closer to a 23 sec. PR, but that doesn't count except for horse shoes and hand grenades! :p

WOOHOO!!! WTG nono!! :rocker::thumbsup2::yahoo::cheerleader:

[jrbdad]

Nono-

Congrats! That's awesome!!!!
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[Rozzie]

Congrats NONO!!!!!!!! WHohoohoooo!!!! :yahoo:

[nono]

I think stunned would sum it up right now. This was my very first age group placement ever.

:cloud9:

[SISrunner]

Congratualtions Nono! That's awesome!!! :cheerleader::yahoo::cheerleader:

[Rozzie]

Hey Kandi, been meaning to ask you if you want to throw some 2011 goals into the pot. We traditionally all make yearly goals and then at end of year see who did the best reaching them. Our goals are all over the place, the important thing is we left our comfort zone trying to improve upon ourselves. Also I have the Rozzie Marathon weekend Challenge. State a time goal and if you meet it I buy you are tequila shot at the "cave" in Mexico. It doesn't have to to a super fast goal, just some sort of time goal to work toward for the weekend that is measurable. You can probably search this thread to see all our goals for the weekend. No pressure, but it sure is fun to root' each other on to make it. :)

I had a sucky LR today. 13 miler turned into 12.56 miler. It was in the low 20s, I know a heat wave compared to ya'll up North--but I had another episode with my hands. Had my big gloves on and liners on too and it hurt like freakin' hades. Had GI issues too. Miles in the bank, miles in the bank. :blech: I was supposed to be off tomorrow but I need to get out 4.2 in the morning sometime to finish up weekly mileage.

40 hours until new diet starts. On total binge this weekend to prepare. Yeah yeah yeah, that's healthy huh? :rolleyes: My goal is to totally shock my metabolism this next week. Cookies in oven now. :grin:

[MatterhornMiss]

Woot Woot! Way to go, nono! Still, I can't believe it's your first age group first place--what races have you been running???

Good luck, Lisa and Rick!

I'm feeling guilty because I didn't run today. Really, I've run pretty good distances (considering where I am in my "training" schedule) 2 days straight and I needed a rest, and I did do yoga this morning, and I spent 3 hours both ways driving to Louisville and back, but ever since I've started going to the Y on a regular basis, I feel like I'm doing something wrong to take a rest day. Now, I know that's not healthy and that rest days (especially for me) are very important. So I need someone just to tell me it's okay I didn't run today. :silly:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Good luck Lisa & Rick....have a great race!!!

MM....it's ok that you didn't run today. Besides, 6 hours of driving is a real workout.

[nono]

Woot Woot! Way to go, nono! Still, I can't believe it's your first age group first place--what races have you been running???



Yep this is the first time, and I placed second. I am in a fast age group and live in a fast area I suppose. Though, the closest I ever came to placing previously was the AC half a few years back. I came in 6th in my age group.

Hey Roz, the amazing thing is I'm still 12 lbs. heavier than Rehoboth, and 18 lbs heavier than my goal weight. So, get ready for AC sister! Our shoes will be in flames by the end. :goodvibes:

[athenna]

Juast popping in to say, way to go, nono!:cheerleader:

[cloudnut220]

Congrats nono!

I had my first real tempo run this morning. 20 minutes at old 5k pace, 10 minutes at goal 5k pace. I decided that since I'm feeling better, the St. Patty's race is back to being a goal race. One month to get my butt in shape!
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[Rozzie]

Hey Roz, the amazing thing is I'm still 12 lbs. heavier than Rehoboth, and 18 lbs heavier than my goal weight. So, get ready for AC sister! Our shoes will be in flames by the end. :goodvibes:

No excuses then! Summer training is when we will sharpen the iron. :thumbsup2:


. So I need someone just to tell me it's okay I didn't run today.

Remember you are in a coming back from injury phase. Allow yourself some breaks. I am just STOKED that you have a 6 mile pain free run. This is big news!! :goodvibes:




I had my first real tempo run this morning. 20 minutes at old 5k pace, 10 minutes at goal 5k pace. I decided that since I'm feeling better, the St. Patty's race is back to being a goal race. One month to get my butt in shape!
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If I were you, I would start making one day a week a tempo workout. What I am doing to prepare for my 5K on first weekend in March--mile repeats. Warm up a mile, then I will do 2 x 1 mile at my goal pace, then cool down at least a mile. Do a 2 min "active" recovery in between. (no walking) First week, maybe just do one mile repeat and see how it feels. Remember you want to sharpen, not run your goal 5K in training. On other days, do as much "easy" base mileage as your leg will let you. You will have that race on a platter served to you!

Did not do any speed work last week, but this week going back to the old haunted grounds of the track. Going to run 2 miles there, then do some 400s at goal pace, then run home. Then next week do mile repeats as stated above. That's the plan anyway. It's a loooong shot for me to PR this 5K, especially being this heavy as I am now. Right now I will be estatic with a sub 23:00. Had a great 5 miler this morning and had to physically rein myself in every few minutes. My body wanted to fly. Funny how somedays it's easy, and some days it's a victory just to complete the run.

[cloudnut220]

Roz--there are two immediate goals. This it the first week I'm going to try a fourth day of running. And I want to try one tempo a week. My PT recommended 20 minutes at goal 5k pace. So we'll see how that goes! It's interesting because I'm not really doing a longer run right now, and I'm not supposed to until I get used to the 4 days in a couple of weeks. It's just a weird feeling.

[withdisneyspirit]

OMG OMG OMG!

I placed second in my age group and didn't know because I was too cold and left!

Age Group Race Results Report as of 2/12/2011 10:40:34 AM - Female 45 - 49
Place Bib # Name Time Age Sex City ST
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________
1 422 FAITH SEIDERS 01:49:11 45 F HILTON HEAD SC
2 438 NOEL SMITH 01:53:38 46 F WILDWOOD CREST NJ
3 169 TERRY GAULT 01:54:00 49 F HILTON HEAD SC


And, yes, it's a PR by 7 seconds. I was 15 sec. off clock, so it was closer to a 23 sec. PR, but that doesn't count except for horse shoes and hand grenades! :p

That is so awesome, nono!!!!!! Congrats!!

I bragged about you to people at our after race party that we sat with!!! There are a lot of Disney racers here in Birmingham too. We saw plenty of runners wearing Disney tech shirts.

Rick and I made it through the race today pretty well. It wasn't a PR but it wasn't our slowest race either. I am happy that we did so well considering we were both still very congested on the run. The best part is that I did not have chest constriction, thank God. :goodvibes: The worst part I experienced was terrible cramping in my feet, shins and calves. :( I think we would have had a better time if not for that. It started about mile 6 and went on to the end, so I need to figure out how to prevent this. We had a finish of 3:13:58! I joked to Rick several times that whenever we would come to a run portion it would always be a hill, lol! :grin:

The course was as fun as always. :D I remembered to wear my Peacock shirt and everyone was calling my name. I think Rick was a bit jealous so I need to order him his own Peacock shirt very soon!!

The after party was wonderful with two great bands, good food and beer! They even had little debutantes show up (16 year olds or so) and they went around serving everyone cake! I think the cake was in honor of the tenth anniversary of the Mercedes races. All in all, a very fun day! I ate like crazy today :eating: and it is back on task tomorrow. :rolleyes: It was the first berserk eating day in a month though and at least it was on a half marathon race day...

[cloudnut220]

Congrats Lisa! That leg cramping sounds awful, cramps are the one thing that make me quit straight away. Way to go pushing through, and everyone deserves a cheat food day every once in a while!

[cloudnut220]

also, two other firsts to report this weekend. I tried on a pair of vibram's yesterday, and I'm seriously intrigued. Might get a pair to walk around in. And I bought some bulk chia seeds tonight. going in the oatmeal tomorrow!

[MatterhornMiss]

:cheerleader: Yea, Lisa and Rick! :cheerleader:

Ran (what for me felt like) a fast 2 1/2 mile run today. I didn't time it so I don't really know, but I was huffing and puffing ;) It was a beautiful day for it, too. I got to wear shorts outside and everything.

After sitting my in car for 6 hours yesterday, I had what felt like cramps in my ITB this morning. It seems weird that my ITB should be able to cramp, but I think I had a similar sensation during the marathon.

Looking for a nice half for the spring. The dates I have available are May 14 or the first two weekends in June. Any suggestions? I feel like I should just go ahead and do the country music half the end of April, but I'm not really up to running a crowded, hilly race right now.

[withdisneyspirit]

Congrats Lisa! That leg cramping sounds awful, cramps are the one thing that make me quit straight away. Way to go pushing through, and everyone deserves a cheat food day every once in a while!

I bet if you were in a race, Beth, you would push through too! I have always had some trouble in this area so I am used to a little bit of cramping but this was plain ridiculous...

I think the Vibrams are so cool too. There were several people running in them today at the race. :w00t:

Thanks for the well wishes from everyone too, by the way!

[SISrunner]

Great job Lisa and Rick!!!:yahoo::goodvibes::yahoo:

Rozzie - I don't set time goals for the Disney races because of doing them back-to-back and I stop to take pictures along the way. I just want to feel great and have fun running them.

I do usually try to beat my previous time in the other marathons I run (or at least not slow down too much). I hope to run around 4:30 for the Pocono marathon and the Via Marathon (Sept. 11).

Are those goals ok?:scratchchin:

I just found out today I might be doing the Caesar Rodney half-marathon on 3/27. I will give a goal when I find out I'm definitely running. I ran a fast (for me) 17-miler today with a woman who is training for Boston and who may be running CR. I think she will make me faster than I would be on my own.

[Rozzie]

Congrats Lisa and Rick!! Way to push through Lisa with the cramps. Ughh, it really is one of my worst nightmares to cramp up like that. The race sounds great, I really need to put it down on our list for the next year or two. Tell Rick he needs his shirt! I am glad you had a cheat day---we always eat whatever the heck we want after a race. :)

Well I have a few hours left and then the hammer falls with my new clean out. :fingerscrossed: Been cooking all day it seems, as I have to eat several times a day small portions. So I thought I would cook a lot and put a bunch of stuff up in pyrex dishes in the fridge.

MM, there is this HM in Destin in the spring....:scratchchin:

[Rozzie]

Kandi, stop and take pictures in a race?????? :grin: Joking of course. I did see this guy in front of me last Jan who had it down pat. He was doing a pretty good clip and would toss the character handler his photopass card about 3 feet away, stop for a nano of a nano second and then take off. He was cracking up and having fun doing it. He was saying he always has a picture/time PR for Disney. (how many pics can he get in faster time than last year) I was like hmmmm....maybe that is something I could try...one day. :D I do still regret not stopping for Jessie in frontierland, there was no one in line too. It's just so hard for me to stop in race, not only mentally but it's hard on my body too. I can't walk through water stops either. I get a rhythm and my body starts wanting to bonk if I disrupt it. I know, I am a strange bird. (we need a strange bird smiley...)

[nono]

6 miles on a beach cruiser bike today with my ds on the back. An extra 35 lbs. on a 1 speed bike the day after a race....:confused:

Well, I'll recover in the car tomorrow I guess! :rolleyes:

[SISrunner]

Wow Nono, that's some cross-training! :grin:

Rozzie - 15 years of racing and I still haven't figured out how to run through the water stops!:)

I did get the Jessie picture. I had a record 21 pictures in the marathon this year - I tell everyone that's at least 21 minutes I can subtract from my time:D! And my time was faster than last year too, so I guess I had a picture/time PR too! :woohoodance:

[withdisneyspirit]

I love the race = pictures PR, Kandi! When is the Destin Half, Roz? Way to go on your run today, MM! nono, you just don't quit, huh?! Thanks again to all who read my mini race report :goodvibes:

Is Mr. Roz on his way to Italy yet?

[mickeyndvcfan]

Congratulations Lisa & Rick!!!

[jrbdad]

Congratulations Lisa & Rick!!!

Yes! :yahoo::cheerleader::rocker:

[cloudnut220]

I wish I had stopped for pictures with characters during the HM. Since it was my first race though, I was worried about stopping/starting and--I'll admit it--my total time. I had made a big deal about this being my first half to friends, family, coworker, on the blog, and I didn't want a time that was that far away from what I could actually do. There goes my type A personality getting in the way again...

I'm hoping that if I do it with my sister next year, she won't be so worried about time!

Speaking of my sister, she's still plugging away at couch to 5k, and her boyfriend is doing it too! He was telling me yesterday how much better running is making him feel. I'm trying to get Kori (sis) to post on here, but she's saying she's not sure, since she's technically not a DVC member. I told her it's okay since she still has her DVC kid status!

[Rozzie]

Since it was my first race though, I was worried about stopping/starting and--I'll admit it--my total time. I had made a big deal about this being my first half to friends, family, coworker, on the blog, and I didn't want a time that was that far away from what I could actually do. There goes my type A personality getting in the way again...

!

Wait just a dern minute. Are you APOLGIZING for wanting a good time? :confused: We are all wired differently when it comes to races, but HELLO THIS IS TEAM PEACOCK!! We push ourselves to new horizons. I personally don't know what's it's like to take it easy in a race, and frankly I don't want to find out for another 10 years or so. (except if I was injured and was just doing something because I had race fees and travel expenses already tied up) So chin up Beth, come sit by me. We can obsess about or splits and pace all day long. ;)

Almost survived my first day without caffeine. It has not been pretty. :silly: I have the mother of all headaches now.

[cloudnut220]

Thanks Roz! I just feel like everyone talks about how you shouldn't run disney races for time...and that's just what I did!

I just successfully ran two days in a row for the first time! woohoo! easy three miles in gale force winds. I did almost blow into the inner harbor at one point...that would have been bad!

[MatterhornMiss]

At the risk of playing devil's advocate to a woman withdrawing from sugar and caffeine. . . :devil: I am proud of myself when I have fun at a race, too--and for Disney races that does include taking pictures.

Roz, it looks like the Destin race the weekend of the ESPN 5K. I'm looking more for May/June. A half may not happen at that time this year. I am hoping to do the RC Cola and a moonpie 10 miler in June :silly:

Speaking of Disney races, I made a ressie for the weekend of the Expedition Everest Challenge. Now I just need to sign up for the race. I found out there is a DVC discount, but only for the team competition. Oh well.

[MatterhornMiss]

Proof that sometimes the wall ISN'T just mental

YouTube - Sophia and the Walk-athon

[cloudnut220]

MM--there are a bunch of May/June halfs up here, including one put on by the Seashore Striders in the Rehoboth Beach/Lewes, DE area that I'm seriously looking at!

[nono]

and frankly I don't want to find out for another 10 years or so.


Easy, easy, easy!!! Could you write 20 years or so.... :blech:

[cloudnut220]

Baking marathon complete. I made brownies, cupcakes, and started bagels. Remind me never to volunteer for any food events at work ever again!

[Rozzie]

Proof that sometimes the wall ISN'T just mental

YouTube - Sophia and the Walk-athon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqox_0AExg)

OMG!! :grin:I have tears on my face from laughing at this. I looooove me some GG's. Sofia, "I thought the key would weigh me down". Sounds like someone I know!!! :blush: THanks MM, it was a bad day yesterday, better days are ahead!


MM--there are a bunch of May/June halfs up here, including one put on by the Seashore Striders in the Rehoboth Beach/Lewes, DE area that I'm seriously looking at!

Yeah yeah yeah, rub it in why don't you, my favorite place to run a race!! :silly:


Easy, easy, easy!!! Could you write 20 years or so.... :blech:

Hehehehe. ;) Didn't even realize what I wrote! Bascially our retirement plan is having a Airstream and traveling around jogging marathons. No, we are not retiring in 10 years, or even 30 years by the looks of it. :blech:

Day 2 diet. Going to add some more kcal. Think I am underdepleted. Going to add some healthy fats, as in walnuts and some nut butters. Also add a full sweet potato instead of half sweet potato.

[cloudnut220]

Roz--the Striders (they organized the marathon too) don't even have any plans up for the race. It's not too late for you to change your race calendar...

And what can you eat on the diet?

[cloudnut220]

I also should report that I am shockingly not sore after running back to back days! :) My calves are a little creaky, but I think that's more because I neglected to foam roll last night...that's what I get for being too preoccupied with baking!

[Rozzie]

See Beth I knew you could do it!

In answer to the what can I eat on week 1, I can actually eat a lot. Low glycemic veggies (spinach, green beans, zuccuni, etc etc), clean proteins-chicken, bison, turkey, some fish etc. Sweet potatoes, quinoa, steel cut oats. Apples, pears, etc. Snacks are tuna with curry, protein drinks.

Next week I can introduce greek yogurts and banana's. I am really excited! (yes the lack of makes you crave it more ;))

[nono]

You go Rozzie!

Got 3 mi in on the sand about an hour ago with my Vibrams. Scarfing down some soup and bread right now before swim practice!

[MatterhornMiss]

Roz, I think Sophia's hot pink velour jogging suit and straw purse should be the official peacock uniform! :silly: (I love that the key would weigh her down, but the purse itself was not a problem, though where would she put her race number if she didn't carry it?!) I'm currently working through all 7 seasons on DVD.

And as for the airstream, you know I told you when we were at AK that's my dream, too! Spooky. . .

CN--I had hoped to be able to be within easy driving distance, but as by that time the humidity is cranked up in the southeast, there aren't very many races nearby. The marine corps historic half (http://www.marinemarathon.com/site7.aspx )Fredericksburg May 15 sounds the most promising. Actually, the VA wine country half sounded the most interesting, but it's sold out.

[cloudnut220]

Well MM, if you decide to do that race, let me know. It's probably more realistic for my race calendar than Seashore Half, unless I'm seriously going to commit to run LRs while I'm in France (which is highly doubtful). And it's more interesting than the other half I was looking at that weekend, which is just in a suburb outside of Baltimore. At least MCM goes through a cute little town. I had previoulsly stayed away from that race because I thought it went through the battlefield (which is SUPER hilly) but it doesn't, so it would be okay!

[MatterhornMiss]

CN it does look like there is a nice long up hill the last couple of miles ;) but it doesn't look as hilly as many others around the same time.
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[cloudnut220]

I was worried it looked big until I actually looked at the elevation--nothing worse than my normal route!

Hey, has anyone seen DG recently? I'm starting to worry about him...

[jrbdad]

Knee update - still hurts.

Talked to ortho at our sons' baseball game Monday night & went back to see him today.

Did an ultrasound to rule out a blood clot - thankfully none found.

Leaves us with either a severe muscle strain or acute tendinitis. He says the stress fracture is healed and looked at the MRI again to confirm to tears and the exam today also indicated nothing torn.

So - it is finally on to PT - have an appointment set for a week from today. Didn't realize it would be so hard to get in - but, I've made it this long.

Have I mentioned that I really want to run? Guessing that it has been so long since I've run, I'll have to start over and build up gradually?
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[Rozzie]

I don't mean to sound like a whiny baby, BUT :boohoohoo:. Now what the hell do I do now, I don't know.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/116349139.html

[nono]

I don't mean to sound like a whiny baby, BUT :boohoohoo:. Now what the hell do I do now, I don't know.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/116349139.html

I understand everything that they did except for the earlier registration. WTH? :oweye: Just kill everyone's fall plans in one swoop. Seems very :confused24: ??

[nono]

Oh Rozzie......


http://www.vianet.org/events/marathon/index.shtml

[nono]

Have I mentioned that I really want to run? Guessing that it has been so long since I've run, I'll have to start over and build up gradually?
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Uh, definitely you need to start from scratch!!!

Easy does it my friend!

[cloudnut220]

John, I hope the pt helps!

Roz, I'm sorry. This is really dissapointing, even for someone like me who maybe had boston as a distant dream.
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[jrbdad]

Roz-

Sorry :(
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[Rozzie]

Oh Rozzie......


http://www.vianet.org/events/marathon/index.shtml

Well it sucks because I already got the time off from work in Oct. Also who is to say I would even get in? It's not the BQ time, but me waiting for 3 days before I can register. Freaking 35-39 women are fast arses.

[Rozzie]

Roz-

Sorry :(
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John, I am sorry to be so self centered right now. Pretty crabby of me to me so up in arms when you can't even run yet. :hug1:

I AM JUST PISSED!! :mad: WANT TO CRY! And have a beer and cheeseburger, screw the detox.

[Rozzie]

Update: My shrink called and I feel better. I think I have a new plan, thanks Coach Nono. :thumbsup2:

[nono]

What are friends for?? :)

Oh, and I went on the record as saying I think this decision will go down as the "New Coke" debacle of the 2010s...

Time will tell.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Update: My shrink called and I feel better. I think I have a new plan, thanks Coach Nono. :thumbsup2:

So, are you still doing AC? Is there another race that you could do to try and BQ before Sept?

[Rozzie]

So, are you still doing AC? Is there another race that you could do to try and BQ before Sept?

I need to talk to Coach Hardarse when he gets back. Sept and Aug is a hard month to plan for a marathon with us and hurricane season. We lucked out so much with AF, but I lost so much sleep staring at NOAA's tropical weather page the days before it about drove me nuts.

The plan is now to still do AC. I have the time off from work, that Monday and Tuesday after the race. Plus I really want to do it! :D Then there is a idea that is floating around that Nono and I might blaze out the Marathon in Jan and maybe not do Goofy. Everything is upside down now and it's hard to even think of restructuring the next year. There is this Snickers Marathon in early March in GA that I promised a friend I would do too. I was just going to the HM if I BQ'd, but now I might run the full with her too. Heck, why not at this point. She just wants someone to pace her to her first sub 4:00. Not that I am pacing genius but it would be fun to experience that with someone, KWIM? So who knows, but we will figure things out by end of weekend when Mr. I don't want to come home I want to live in Italy lands back in reality.

[cloudnut220]

Don't be mean to the coach. It's a pretty natural reaction to want to stay in Italy forever...I know I wanted to!

[Rozzie]

Don't be mean to the coach. It's a pretty natural reaction to want to stay in Italy forever...I know I wanted to!

Oh I was kidding really. I think it's funny actually. For the record, he wanted me and the dogs to come too. :grin: I expect to have that same reaction in France. :cloud9:

[MatterhornMiss]

Roz--I am sorry about the news about Boston. I am disappointed that it is becoming even more of an elitist event. I believe you have it in you to qualify. You can do it!

jrbdad--I'm sorry things aren't easing up for you any. I agree--when you can run, start from the very beginning and go slooooooowly.

[withdisneyspirit]

Oh Rozzie......


http://www.vianet.org/events/marathon/index.shtml

It took me a minute or two to figure this out. AC would have been soon enough for Boston race reg. but they upped the date for registration to September? :(

I am sorry, Rozzie that these changes took place, especially the early sign ups for the fastest racers! What is the point of setting a marker to attain if they then decide to give an extreme advantage to the fastest racers??

Are you doing the Snickers this year or are all these races planned for 2012?

I'm glad Mr. Roz is loving his trip but he better get his Peacock *** home soon! :p

I am glad, jrbdad, that you are finally going to get some PT so that the running light can be seen in your tunnel soon!! :cheerleader:

Having a group interview today for a new job (same profession - mortgage loan officer). This bank does business in at least 32 states; I could probably be all the Peacock's loan officer, lol! :D

I really don't want to stay on this ship until it actually sinks! Don't want to follow my immediate bosses to the next ship either since I have learned their character :( Wish me luck please :fingerscrossed:

[jrbdad]

Lisa-

Thanks & good luck today!
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[nono]

Lisa,

Good luck today. I hope you get the offer, even if you don't want it. It is nice to have choices...

Rozzie,

How you feeling today?


Team, I have to tell you, I feel like I got of the marketing treadmill this morning. I realized overnight how bought into the hype I have been about Boston. I am looking forward to requalifying with Rozzie, but the whole aura of it all has worn off. There's so many great races to run each spring! It's just one of many, many great races out there! :thumbsup2:

[cloudnut220]

Lisa--good luck! If you can write in MD, I might be talking to you about a refi!

nono--I see what you mean about the "marketing mill". What makes Boston the greatest marathon in the world anyways, except for the fact that they market themselves that way? The rolling registration strikes me as particularly unfair. If you qualify, you should qualify. If they don't want slower (haha...like anyone who BQs is slow!) runners, maybe they should just raise the qualifying even more. That seems better than what they've done--which is essentially making it so you conditionally qualify. Fast people should have to get up early to register, just like people with a lot of DVC points should have to call at 9am when the 11 month window opens (instead of getting that much rumored "special treatment"). But then what do I know, I'll never qualify for Boston.

I do hope you guys still do AC, because I really was planning on doing SOMETHING that day and seeing everyone.

[withdisneyspirit]

Lisa,

Good luck today. I hope you get the offer, even if you don't want it. It is nice to have choices...

Rozzie,

How you feeling today?


Team, I have to tell you, I feel like I got of the marketing treadmill this morning. I realized overnight how bought into the hype I have been about Boston. I am looking forward to requalifying with Rozzie, but the whole aura of it all has worn off. There's so many great races to run each spring! It's just one of many, many great races out there! :thumbsup2:

I agree with this about Boston so much, nono. I say this knowing I would never qualify so it may not mean as much coming from me... :rolleyes:

Oh, and the group interview today is a small group within our group and I will be more inclined to take this job if offered - hence the :fingerscrossed: I don't know the bosses at this bank so I can be my usual naive self believing in the ultimate good of all people!! :w00t::goodvibes:

[nono]

Oh, and the group interview today is a small group within our group and I will be more inclined to take this job if offered - hence the :fingerscrossed: I don't know the bosses at this bank so I can be my usual naive self believing in the ultimate good of all people!! :w00t::goodvibes:

On that point, Lisa, it is like I tell my kids, even bad people usually have some good qualities. ;)

[cloudnut220]

So I'm trying to decide if the universe is sending me a message or what. Last night, I resolved to register for a half May 15. This morning, I wake up feeling like crap (sore throat, muscle soreness, the works). Sign that I'm not ready, or that I'm just getting sick (of course, right before a much needed 4 day weekend). I'm hoping it's just getting sick.

[withdisneyspirit]

On that point, Lisa, it is like I tell my kids, even bad people usually have some good qualities. ;)

Oh, believe me, nono, I learned this fact moons ago and I am thankful for it being true! I personally choose, however, to believe that I have learned the lessons this boss came to teach and I can move on to other teachers now. No one is all black or all white, including me! :D I actually have tried to convince my husband of this about his boss for four years now, lol!

[MatterhornMiss]

So I'm trying to decide if the universe is sending me a message or what. Last night, I resolved to register for a half May 15. This morning, I wake up feeling like crap (sore throat, muscle soreness, the works). Sign that I'm not ready, or that I'm just getting sick (of course, right before a much needed 4 day weekend). I'm hoping it's just getting sick.

I've slowly been having more congestion and fluid build up in my ears myself. It sounds like you're serious about the Marine Corps half. If you sign up I will seriously try and be there. Our other option for a spring half would be if Roz wants to add another full at that time and finds a half attached ;) I just looked at dedicated halfs.
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[nono]

Oh, believe me, nono, I learned this fact moons ago and I am thankful for it being true! I personally choose, however, to believe that I have learned the lessons this boss came to teach and I can move on to other teachers now. No one is all black or all white, including me! :D I actually have tried to convince my husband of this about his boss for four years now, lol!


Heh! It's like we live parallel lives!

[MatterhornMiss]

I found my half: www.oakbarrelhalf.com :D

The funny thing is that Jack is made in a dry county so none at the finish. :(
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[nono]

I found my half: www.oakbarrelhalf.com (http://www.oakbarrelhalf.com) :D

The funny thing is that Jack is made in a dry county so none at the finish. :(
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Eh,think airplane bottles in the glove compartment. Take a nap, then leave the parking lot. :silly:

[MatterhornMiss]

It's only an hour or hour and a half away from me so no worries ;)
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[Rozzie]

I found my half: www.oakbarrelhalf.com (http://www.oakbarrelhalf.com) :D

The funny thing is that Jack is made in a dry county so none at the finish. :(
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I wish this was on a Sunday! I could maybe swing it. But I don't think I could drink the 8 hrs or so up after work on Friday.

Lisa, those are my plans for 2012. I hopefully will be doing the Snickers next March. Good luck on the job search! I have a big belief in we land where we are supposed to land. I just hope the landing on on this is nice and soft and easy on the feet. ;) I think you are very wise to be getting a head start out of the sinking ship.

About to head out now, in shorts and tshirt! They say it might be 80 next week. So much for Spring. :silly:

Beth, it still looks like all systems go for AC.

[MatterhornMiss]

I wish this was on a Sunday! I could maybe swing it. But I don't think I could drink the 8 hrs or so up after work on Friday.


You're supposed to start drinking after the race not on the drive up ;)
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[nono]

You're supposed to start drinking after the race not on the drive up ;)
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Best line of the week! :thumbsup2:

[MatterhornMiss]

Safety first.
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[Rozzie]

You're supposed to start drinking after the race not on the drive up ;)
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Maybe this is why I haven't BQ'd yet? :scratchchin:

[nono]

Hey Roz, I'm being accused of picking on Canadians for pointing out that someone on the bubble in The South will be getting the shaft for this year's Boston registration...

[Rozzie]

Hey Roz, I'm being accused of picking on Canadians for pointing out that someone on the bubble in The South will be getting the shaft for this year's Boston registration...

This is FUNNY! :D

I never answered your question, I am feeling better today. After work I decided to do a hellish tempo workout on the hilly route. (8:34 pace) It's my go to therapy session when I have to clear my head. Then came home and did 20 min of pilates and some yoga poses. If Boston doesn't want me there are a lot of races that will gladly accept my race fees. :)

[nono]

This is FUNNY! :D

I never answered your question, I am feeling better today. After work I decided to do a hellish tempo workout on the hilly route. (8:34 pace) It's my go to therapy session when I have to clear my head. Then came home and did 20 min of pilates and some yoga poses. If Boston doesn't want me there are a lot of races that will gladly accept my race fees. :)

Well I basically combined you and me into a person and showed how someone could be feeling screwed (since so many folks are saying it's a "fair system".) I was really thinking of a current injured runner in FL, but didn't want to name that person in the discussion. And I said that the system will see fair to Canadians, not to Southerners...as Southerners have no choices for races between May - Sept. Well, this person started picking my posts apart, and I know she's a Canadian living in the US, but I didn't think she was serious. Oops... :oweye:

Anyway, yeah, $150 is a bit steep. Also, you'll get qualified, and then you can decide whether or not to go!

[Rozzie]

Well I basically combined you and me into a person and showed how someone could be feeling screwed (since so many folks are saying it's a "fair system".) I was really thinking of a current injured runner in FL, but didn't want to name that person in the discussion. And I said that the system will see fair to Canadians, not to Southerners...as Southerners have no choices for races between May - Sept. Well, this person started picking my posts apart, and I know she's a Canadian living in the US, but I didn't think she was serious. Oops... :oweye:

Anyway, yeah, $150 is a bit steep. Also, you'll get qualified, and then you can decide whether or not to go!

Sorry I missed your call, phone was in room charging. I went in the Masters Forum and checked it out. OMG, why can't I be a Master! Ya'll are a hoot!!!! :D

[nono]

OMG, why can't I be a Master! Ya'll are a hoot!!!! :D

How sad is it that I didn't pick up on her irritation earlier? I feel so :blush:.

As for running, I did 4 miles today, with a quicker than anticipated mile 1, two 8 min miles, and a cool down mile. Then, I got in 25 min of slideboarding. No swimming tonight -- it's a recovery week!

[MatterhornMiss]

4 miles outside in the setting sun. . . :cloud9:

I don't know how you feel, but I think 40 is too young to be considered a "master." Like you can't compete against those 18 year olds.

[nono]

OK, when you have a spare 10 min., and if you liked the show Who's Line is it Anyway? here's a couple skits with Robin Williams.

YouTube - Robin Williams on whose line is it anyway?


I found a couple of howl out loud minutes...

[withdisneyspirit]

Lisa--good luck! If you can write in MD, I might be talking to you about a refi!

nono--I see what you mean about the "marketing mill". What makes Boston the greatest marathon in the world anyways, except for the fact that they market themselves that way? The rolling registration strikes me as particularly unfair. If you qualify, you should qualify. If they don't want slower (haha...like anyone who BQs is slow!) runners, maybe they should just raise the qualifying even more. That seems better than what they've done--which is essentially making it so you conditionally qualify. Fast people should have to get up early to register, just like people with a lot of DVC points should have to call at 9am when the 11 month window opens (instead of getting that much rumored "special treatment"). But then what do I know, I'll never qualify for Boston.

I do hope you guys still do AC, because I really was planning on doing SOMETHING that day and seeing everyone.

You expressed the inequity very well, CN!!

At the interview, I learned I can do conventional in all 48 states on the mainland. I can do FHA loans in about 12 states, mostly considered Southeast states... Of course, this is if I get the job and want the job! :D It did sound very good. They want to see my last 2-3 years W-2's because a loan officer is just a dollar sign basically. :confused24: If the four of us all split from our group though, they may cut our processor's job and the new company doesn't want to hire her along with us. :( It still seems like a good move for me though.


Heh! It's like we live parallel lives!

I knew we would be alike in this area :goodvibes:


I found my half: www.oakbarrelhalf.com :D

The funny thing is that Jack is made in a dry county so none at the finish. :(
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:w00t: Talladega is April 3 but I think this one looks great too!


You're supposed to start drinking after the race not on the drive up ;)
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Maybe this is why I haven't BQ'd yet? :scratchchin:
:rotfl2: That was a great line, MM, nono called it! Very funny, Rozzie, funnier that you were serious when you wrote it :grin:

[nono]

P.S. I was actually looking for running videos...not sure how I got to Who's Line... :confused24:

[cloudnut220]

Ran 4.5 miles outside in shorts today! I know the nice weather won't last so I wanted to get out and enjoy it! I slept for 12 hours last night...I'm definitely fighting something off :fingerscrossed: it doesn't get worse! This also marks my 4th successful run in week :) I'm almost back to pre-WDW mileage. Another week of lowish mileage, then I can start adding distance to my LR.

[cloudnut220]

hey, and this just occurred to me...if you aren't trying to BQ at AC, you could do the Baltimore/AC double! Even if it's just as a relay or something!

[nono]

hey, and this just occurred to me...if you aren't trying to BQ at AC, you could do the Baltimore/AC double! Even if it's just as a relay or something!

I don't know about Roz, but I'll be trying at both. The old BQ then BQ - 10 or so....

[nono]

Hey hey some data points on the Boston Marathon's registration entries. Apparently, about 2000 people qualify by being given that last :59 seconds (like me! :rolleyes: ) So, given that and given that I think there's a number floating around that 6500 folks were shut out of registration this year, with the new qualifying times in effect, technically "everyone" who qualifies and wants to pay the $150 registration fee should fit.

[Rozzie]

I don't know about Roz, but I'll be trying at both. The old BQ then BQ - 10 or so....

Still going for it. I may be drunk and crying in by beer by noon but there is only one way to find out if I can do it. Will be going for 3:30 dream goal. :eek:


Ran 4.5 miles outside in shorts today! I know the nice weather won't last so I wanted to get out and enjoy it! I slept for 12 hours last night...I'm definitely fighting something off :fingerscrossed: it doesn't get worse! This also marks my 4th successful run in week :) I'm almost back to pre-WDW mileage. Another week of lowish mileage, then I can start adding distance to my LR.

Take it easy Beth, sleep is the best thing you can do when your body is fighting something. Sleep sleep sleep, no baking! :D


hey, and this just occurred to me...if you aren't trying to BQ at AC, you could do the Baltimore/AC double! Even if it's just as a relay or something!

That's just crazy talk. :silly: Sadly I will be flying up Sat morning, so you will have to do the double for us. :grin:

[nono]

Still going for it. I may be drunk and crying in by beer by noon but there is only one way to find out if I can do it. Will be going for 3:30 dream goal. :eek:


Well, let's see how thin I get! :D But, I will do my best to at least hang for the first 20 with ya. (I'm planning on having an elbow-fest in the chute at Disney though...how un-Princess-like! LOL)

I guess I'd better order some new pace tats. My stash only goes down to 3:45...

[nono]

OK, it is official. For A.C., I'm going to pace R for 20 and then rest on in for a 3:40... :goodvibes:

I'll go for 3:30 in FL. Might as well make the trip worthwhile! :drunkard:

[Rozzie]

OK, it is official. For A.C., I'm going to pace R for 20 and then rest on in for a 3:40... :goodvibes:

I'll go for 3:30 in FL. Might as well make the trip worthwhile! :drunkard:

:rocker:

[cloudnut220]

No baking? Who do you think I am? I made cookie dough today. Now drinking beer... good med!
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[Rozzie]

No baking? Who do you think I am? I made cookie dough today. Now drinking beer... good med!
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How do you stay so thin? Can you bottle up your metabolsim and sell it to me? :poke:

[cloudnut220]

I don't eat the baked goods...I give them to others. That's the secret.
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[withdisneyspirit]

I would have to eat some of it and it attaches to my butt and thighs, LOL! I am learning to bake with almond flour, coconut flour, and flax seed meal now for low carbing!

The interview went well - lasted for 2:15 hours!! I think I am going to make application there. They have great programs and I am feeling good about it. The drama at work is getting unbearable though and wouldn't you know it, today I got busy and took a large loan application too...:rolleyes:

Proud of you Roz and nono - you will show us all how a BQ is done even under the new rules! :goodvibes:

Very happy for your runs, Beth - WTG!! :yahoo:

[jrbdad]

Wow! You all are amazing -- I love reading about your drive to PRs.

Lisa -- sounds very promising -- again, best wishes.

Got my first PT appointment moved up a day :yahoo:

[Rozzie]

I don't eat the baked goods...I give them to others. That's the secret.
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You are a OAK! :thumbsup2:

BTW, how is the leg?

[cloudnut220]

OAK?

The leg feels great, but I have been taking some advil to try to keep my throat from hurting too bad. I've got this crazy swollen gland on one side of my neck and no other symptoms. Weird right? But I don't think the advil is really masking anything, because when I use the foam roller, I'm not finding any knots :thumbsup2:

I'm just itching to build some mileage. One more week. I actually blogged about being injured yesterday--it's really been a learning experience.

[Rozzie]

OAK?

.

Did you ever see the movie Tombstone about Wyatt Earp? Don't worry I was complimenting you. :)

Just keep rolling. Try if you can to back off the Advil to keep your leg in check. Do you have a low grade temp? It really sounds like your immune system is doing it's job. You are healthy and eat right so all your defenses should be on guard. When we get tired it's just our bodies telling us it needs a little more rest to fight off whatever is trying to attack. Make some honey tea for your throat. Sip on it throughout the day. Maybe only take advil at night so you can rest easy? Hope you feel better soon.

TRY to get some rest, and no, beer is not good right now. Wheat and yeast are inflammatory ingredients and can make inflammation worse. Okay, you have had your lecture for today. :p

[cloudnut220]

Never saw that movie.

I've been trying not to take the advil that much, but I needed some before we went to dinner with friends last night and then before bed, because i didn't want to wake up in horrible pain at midnight again (that was not fun on Thursday night). I know the beer was a bad idea, but we went to this fancy beer restaurant with like 100 taps and I couldn't resist :( Nothing tonight at this cookbook event I'm going to. The cookbook event is one reason I'm baking today, and I'm supposed to make a birthday cake for Noel's family party for tomorrow too. We'll see how far I make it though, because these cookies are a real PITA. Everything in this cookbook they're from is a real PITA, so I'm not sure why I'm surprised--but the results are amazing, so I keep going back for more.

When is Mr. Roz due back?

[Rozzie]

When is Mr. Roz due back?

Tonight! :)

That 100 tap beer place sounds fun. :biggulp:

[cloudnut220]

Tonight! :)

That 100 tap beer place sounds fun. :biggulp:

It's pretty amazing. Good food too. If you ever make it to Baltimore, we'll have to go.

[cloudnut220]

Where's MM--I just made an icing with Jack Daniels...

[Rozzie]

Where's MM--I just made an icing with Jack Daniels...

:biggulp:

[cloudnut220]

:biggulp:

the PITA cookies were a salt and pepper cookie with a bourbon vanilla icing.

[MatterhornMiss]

Where's MM--I just made an icing with Jack Daniels...

To channel Viking, that's a waste of perfectly good Jack ;) :viking:

Had a wonderful 6 miler this morning. I ran again with my sister's training group (rather, the large group she is helping coach for the Country Music half), so it was around downtown Nashville and the west end--lots of hills (which is good for them, since the course is full of them). I decided I would just focus on form rather than pace. Well, of course, when I have good form I have a faster time, and use less energy doing it--not to mention less pain. :cloud9:

Then I went to church where we're working on planning a community garden. We rent a bed, plan and plant it, and then can share the left-over vegetables with the community. The beds are raised and 10x3, so plenty of space (especially for just one person). I'm so excited, because we're doing it organically! They are hoping to have some one this summer teach us how to can, too.

I'll be heading out to hang with my sister in a little while.

[MatterhornMiss]

Oh, and for those of you who were here about a year and a half ago when I was first experiementing with during-run/race nutrition (at the guidance of my sister) may remember that I was filling up one of my hydration bottles with natural applesauce. My sister made so much fun of me for doing so, while I told her it would catch on--just wait. Well, she should've listened to me because we could've made some MONEY on that idea. When she was flying back from the Ukraine in January, she saw this little pouch thing of applesauce in the Paris (or maybe Kiev) airport and brought it to me. I was in Publix the other day and just happened to see several flavors of fruit sauce. She's said she's also seen it in Whole Foods, too. Who's laughing now! Seriously, though, I do think I'll try using it on a run.

[cloudnut220]

I had to share this...scroll to the end for the adidas ads:

http://www.healthytippingpoint.com/2011/02/running-is-a-funny-thing.html

baking bonanza done, and I got a 2 hour nap. No cross training though, I needed the sleep.

[MatterhornMiss]

Well, my sister told me she is in for the Akron marathon--the full distance--despite once swearing never to run another full! It's one of her goals before turning 30 in November (she said her other two were to run a sub-2 hr half and a sub-3 hr olympic distance tri). Oh, and she also knows about my contemplation to run the W&D one week after :blush: (but this time she held her tongue).

Now where's DG? . . .

[cloudnut220]

MM-I'm a little worried about DG...he hasn't been on the board in over a week. I sent him a PM on friday and no response...

Did my speed workout this morning. It was okay, but I think I'm dehydrated. My own fault, and it definitely led to some weird cramping :mad:. I'm going to attach my water bottle to me today.

[Mr. Roz]

I have a lot of catching up to do.
Well just a few updates.
I am home safe.
Gained 12 lbs
Have major sweling in my left leg from the flight.
Took over 450 pictures so I'll post one or two later. There is this wonderful sculpture in the plaza of the Vatican that is surrounded by two peacocks. Very cool.
Only ran 7 miles over two days in Tuscany VERY hilly and altitude gave me some issues.
Missed everyone. I'll post my run report Monday. Hope all is well with everyone.

[nono]

MM-I'm a little worried about DG...he hasn't been on the board in over a week. I sent him a PM on friday and no response...


Was he going away and just not broadcasting it to the free world? Thinking :goodvibes: thoughts...

[cloudnut220]

I hope that's what it is...but it seems unlikely
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[nono]

I hope that's what it is...but it seems unlikely
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Well his last post here was that he was 150 posts behind...maybe he got fed up with trying to catch up?

Hope everything is A-OK DG!

[withdisneyspirit]

I have a lot of catching up to do.
Well just a few updates.
I am home safe.
Gained 12 lbs
Have major sweling in my left leg from the flight.
Took over 450 pictures so I'll post one or two later. There is this wonderful sculpture in the plaza of the Vatican that is surrounded by two peacocks. Very cool.
Only ran 7 miles over two days in Tuscany VERY hilly and altitude gave me some issues.
Missed everyone. I'll post my run report Monday. Hope all is well with everyone.

I bet some of that 12 pounds is the swelling in your leg and elsewhere in your body, Mr. Roz! Glad you are home and can't wait to hear more! what did you do with your lovely wife??

I think DG must be extra busy - I hope that is all it is...

Rick and I did the old 5 mile walk trail that leads to ice cream at mile 2.5. I ate a protein bar before we left and because ice cream is not on my diet, I just had a water bottle. By the time we got back to the car, I felt shaky from the exertion, kind of hypoglycemic or something. Isn't that rather stupid? :oweye: Got home and almost overdosed on mixed nuts, lol!! I am in the beginning of a lupus flare so that may have contributed, I guess. :confused24:

[Rozzie]

I forgot to add that I PM'd DG a few days ago. He is fine, just crazy busy. Still keeping up with his workouts and he says he will be back soon. :)

Lisa, scary! Be safe, hypoglycemic episodes are scary as you know all too well now. :hug1:

[cloudnut220]

Roz-Glad to know DG is okay!

Mr Roz--I bet some of that weight is water! I always swell up like a balloon on those long flights! not fun! Can't wait to see your pictures.

Lisa-no hypoglycemic events!

Had Noel's family birthday party today, and my nieces/nephew were off the hook crazy. I also must have had soy somewhere because I feel awful. :( Time to try to sleep it off!

[Rozzie]

8 days of clean eating. Feel great, running has improved. Bloated feeling is gone. My mood is even better. All day energy and the best part I am down 4.5 lbs today. :)

[MatterhornMiss]

All right, Roz! :cheerleader: :cheerleader:

[cloudnut220]

WTG Roz! I always feel better when I'm eating clean. That being said, I had lunch at Applebees today, because I went to see an old friend and it's where she wanted to go/could afford. I had a dry spinach salad, yet somehow it still seemed suspiciously salty...

My right calf is a little sore after the back to backs this week. I'm going to roll it again tonight and keep an eye on it. Also keeping an eye on the sleet/snow that's falling outside.

[withdisneyspirit]

8 days of clean eating. Feel great, running has improved. Bloated feeling is gone. My mood is even better. All day energy and the best part I am down 4.5 lbs today. :)

Awesome, Rozzie! Glad you are having great success! :yahoo:

[cloudnut220]

We had a delay this morning because of the snow/ice. I checked one thing off my to-do list...I registered for my second half--the Maryland Half Marathon on May 15th! The race is close to my house (about half an hour) and it supports a local cancer treatment center. It does have an optional fundraising component, but at least it's for a good cause.

[nono]

Awesome, Rozzie! Glad you are having great success! :yahoo:

I wish it would work just by association! :D

[DisneyGeek]

Hi everyone! Beleive it or not I am in fact alive and relatively well. Life has been WAYYYYY too hectic and crazy of late, and I think I'll have to cut my loses and not keep waiting until I think I can catch up but just try and stay current form here forward... :blush:

Roz- Congrats on the 4.5 #s & running better! Clean living can do that to ya'... ;)

CN-

nono- I'm with you on working by association. :rotfl2:

Important safety tip: 1.5" inseam split shorts w/o Body Glide = chaffing even if only worn for 16 min. ellip & 27 min. 'mill intervals + warm ups and cool downs... :oweye: At least, that is what I learned last night from personal experience! :grin: DW also thinks I look funny in shorts that, well, short! :silly: Beyond that I've been managing to squeeze in exercise most days while I've been awal, around being moderately sick on and off, dental work, and doing some theatrical lighting sub-contracting helping remotely to fix control equipment and programs on a Mardi Gras parade float. :eek: Weird stuff going on in Geekland, but other than not having time to catch my breath more good than bad.

Hopefully I won't be a stranger again for a long time. Pan for tonight is to wear compression shorts under said short shorts despite their lining and see if that prevents additional issues w/o use of Glide or similar; I really don't like the greasy feeling that leaves so I try to ONLY use it on runs over 5 miles or 60ish minutes... :wave:

Best wishes to all the team, and if i missed something really important please shoot me a link and I'll try and I'll back and read the key posts about it. :embarassed:

[cloudnut220]

Welcome back DG!

[DisneyGeek]

Thanks! :goodvibes:

[nono]

Best wishes to all the team, and if i missed something really important please shoot me a link and I'll try and I'll back and read the key posts about it. :embarassed:
Mr. Roz says he went to Italy and took pictures. No evidence yet! :silly:

[Rozzie]

Mr. Roz says he went to Italy and took pictures. No evidence yet! :silly:

I have only made it to 237 out of 450 myself. :D

Welcome back DG! You are not allowed to disappear without a explanation anymore. You know how hens worry. ;)

[jrbdad]

OK - PT appointment went great! Two hours, but really felt better after. He took tons of time to walk me through proper stretches and exercises.

He said it looked to him like a combination of my ankle injury causing me to pronate too much along with the shoes.

He felt like I'd be a candidate for motion control (I know Nono).

Wants me to start easing back into it and noting what bothers it.

We shall see. I did the bike at PT and it is slightly sore - not unbearable.

He also wants me to start running both with the traffic and against (not at the same time).

I'm very encouraged. :)
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[cloudnut220]

John, I was just wondering about your PT on the way home. Glad to hear it was a success! PT really helped me a lot, so let's hope it keeps moving you in the right direction.

Roz-you should just have Mr. Roz upload all of his pictures to Picasa or something. Then we would have proof!

[DisneyGeek]

JRB- Glad you are moving forward! And FWIW I think that if you PT recommends it giving Motion Control shoes a try might be a good idea; perhaps you only need them temporarily as a rehab step... :tomato:

[nono]

JRB- Glad you are moving forward! And FWIW I think that if you PT recommends it giving Motion Control shoes a try might be a good idea; perhaps you only need them temporarily as a rehab step... :tomato:

It' not the shoes that are evil incarnate. It's the overuse of them by folks without a condition that needs them. I would give some weight to a PT who sees a valid reason. Cautiously...but that's me! :p

[SISrunner]

John, glad to hear you are on the road to recovery!:goodvibes:

[MatterhornMiss]

Important safety tip: 1.5" inseam split shorts w/o Body Glide = chaffing even if only worn for 16 min. ellip & 27 min. 'mill intervals + warm ups and cool downs... :oweye: At least, that is what I learned last night from personal experience! :grin: DW also thinks I look funny in shorts that, well, short! :silly:

Glad to have you back, DG, but I think I'll side with DW on this one. Most women can't pull off shorts that short. I have a pair that are 2 1/2 in inseams that I will be the first to admit my butt hangs out of them (even though they are comfortable). And I also will admit that I'm not small by any means. Have you tried compression shorts under regular shorts? I find them even more comfortable because they don't move at all when running. And, no chafing (at least not thigh rub. After moving 6 hrs during the marathon, I did--for the first and only time--have chafing at the waistband). I'm not saying that running is about fashion, especially as I tend to look very dorky, but you do want to be comfortable--and not flash anything that is not appropriate for a family friendly race ;)

Was blessed with extra time right before lunch so I could squeeze in 3 miles during lunch. Ran another 2.5 mi (this time on the TM at the Y) before yoga. Yoga was very difficult tonight. We had some new people so the instructor called it a "foundation night." I think it was harder than any of the normal nights. Have you ever tried holding downward facing dog for several minutes? It is not for the faint of heart. But it was good. After my massage yesterday (I am trying to get back into regular massages) and yoga tonight, I feel all wonky.

jrbdad--glad PT went so well!

Oh, and I got my final race instructions for the ESPN 5K :rotfl2:

[DisneyGeek]

MM- Actually, I normally train in compression shorts under 'regular' cotton shorts (not lined "running" ones). Trying them under the new mini-shorts was my plan for tonight, but I think that will be what I try tomorrow morning instead; jiggled schedule around a bit this week. :rotfl2:

[Rozzie]

Good to hear John! I bet this is the turn in the road for you. :goodvibes:

Had a great 5K mile repeat workout this morning. The weather was perfect and I feel great taking some bulk off. Maybe the Joe Cain 5K won't be a waste of $20 after all. :scratchchin:

MM, nice yoga workout! I have a new video from Rodney Yee that mopped the floor with me last week. It's a great feeling--hard intense yoga, but at the same time you are begging UNCLE!! (at least I am LOL) I will send my daily PM later today for my food...

Mr. Roz wants me to report we will finish doing his pics tonight. I finally made it to Rome last night in them. I felt a little jet lag this morning! :grin:

Oh, I love my short shorts. I do probably hang out in them though. Actually I know I do in my exposers. :blush:

[MatterhornMiss]

Ugh, my Achiles are shot today. I think it will have to be a rest day. :(

[jrbdad]

Good Morning Peacocks! :)

Knee is a little sore this morning -- guess that's to be expected after all the treatment and riding the bike for 10 minutes?

Thank you for all the well wishes and encouragement. I go back on Thursday, then three treatments next week. :thumbsup2:

MM -- sorry about the achilles.

Sounds like everyone is doing great. Looking forward to the pics from Italy.

[cloudnut220]

John, I hurt when I started PT and I'll admit, if I lay off on excercises now and then pick them back up they'll hurt at first! So I would think that's normal.

So I may have seen the stupidest runners ever this morning. They were running three abreast on a city street where there was a lane of traffic in each direction and cars parked on the side. Yeah, not a lot of wiggle room there. I get that the sidewalks are icy, but THREE abreast?

My calves are feeling better today (I think the soreness was a combination of the additional run last week + the fact that I've been trying to adjust my stride not to heel strike too much) but it looks like this might be an unexpected rest or cross day because I might meet a friend who is in town from Portugal for a week.

[cloudnut220]

I also wanted to say (before I forget) if you're out there Carrie, good luck at the Princess this weekend! I see it's supposed to be hot, so stay hydrated! :cheerleader::cheerleader:

[withdisneyspirit]

John, thrilled you're in PT and doing well! I took it very seriously during knee surgery rehab and it made a lot of difference for me!

LOL! I promise I won't expose myself in exposers! I will never be Rozzie's size, haha! I do have good news though! I am down 12.5 pounds since Jan 14. :w00t: Granted, at least 4 of that was probably water weight but it is so nice to be headed in the right direction!!!!! :yahoo:

Don't overdo it, MM! And she is right, DG! Compression shorts under the mini shorts, lol! :grin:

CN, I spend quite a bit of time wondering why people on our trail must take their half in the middle. I try not to let it irritate me, but I fail often...:rolleyes:

Good luck, Carrie on the princess! :cheerleader:

Way to go, Rozzie! Its never a waste to sign up for a 5K; I expect to hear good things. :listen:

[MatterhornMiss]

Whenever my Achilles get a work over during massage I know I need to take it easy for a day or two and I just didn't so it is my own fault. Put on KT tape and they at least feel more stable.

Roz I'm sure you don't look like cottage cheese in your shorts. And I admit I do still wear them. I just know I can never bend over.

Forgot to say I added on at HHI yesterday. I really don't think I needed to but oh well.
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[MatterhornMiss]

Whew Carrie! Certainly not the 40 degrees of last year. Be careful and good luck.
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[DisneyGeek]

JRB- So have you gone Motion Control shopping / any plans too before next PT? :listen: Hope it goes well :fingerscrossed: and I agree with CN that SOME pain is to be expected after time off / during rehab...

CN- Ridiculous the people running like that! It is a wonder more car accidents don't happen sometimes... :(

Roz- Photo induced jet lag- love it! Glad the 5k is looking up!

Lisa- 12.5 #s = awesome! :cheerleader:

MM- Sorry about Achilles but Congrats on the add-on!



Schedule got trumped by life last night - got out of work a little late & DW was starving + some of our Chinese take wouldn't reheat too well, so I went ahead and ate when I got home... I know I know, I could (and arguably should) have made different choices, but what's done is done. :( I did get in my Yoga workout last night; first time in probably a month I've done the whole thing. No other exercise, but glad I did those 15 minutes. :D Who knows, maybe someday I will actually start doing that most days a week (if not all 7) like my goal is!!! :silly: New immediate plan is to try for allergy shots as close to 1 PM when Dr. opens as possible and run tonight IMMEDIATELY after work. I forgot I had an early mtg. tomorrow and I had a request for the 'shoe float' work that kept me up fairly late last night. Didn't sleep well AGAIN after that unfortunately (headaches and jaw pain and CPAP issues, oh my! ;)) , but I'm alive and functional so I'll take what I can get! :thumbsup2: Continuing in off topic news, my annual review is tomorrow @ 3 PM; a lot of people have been upset by their's so I'm a little nervous, but I am always am before these things... :blush:

[jrbdad]

DG-

Headed to South Louisiana this weekend and will hi up a Fleet Feet store to get fitted. Been looking online a little. Like the Nike Zoom Equalon 4+.

We shall see.
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[cloudnut220]

I had a great time with my friend. Almost makes me not feel guilty for taking a night off! almost :(

[nono]

I can't feel either calf -- iced them to numbness.

Last night at swim practice, I got mirror image simultaneous cramps in my calves. :eek: Finally had enough time to ice them right tonight. Took today off, which is OK with my current schedule.

Hoping for a healing sleep tonight! :)

[Mr. Roz]

My running route near the 11th century village I was staying in.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC00128.jpg

Entrance to property/more running route
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC00112.jpg

[Mr. Roz]

More running in heaven, olive groves to left, vineyard to right
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC00080.jpg

Just outside the village of Castellina di Chianti
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC00053.jpg

[cloudnut220]

beautiful! did you run through the vines?

[Mr. Roz]

beautiful! did you run through the vines?

No, didn't want to get shot!

This one is Roz's favorite...
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC00427.jpg

[mickeyndvcfan]

I can't feel either calf -- iced them to numbness.

Last night at swim practice, I got mirror image simultaneous cramps in my calves. :eek: Finally had enough time to ice them right tonight. Took today off, which is OK with my current schedule.

Hoping for a healing sleep tonight! :)


:hug1: Hope you're feeling better tomorrow!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Great pics...thanks for sharing.

[MatterhornMiss]

Is that your Italian running kit? ;)

Well, I didn't take today off like I probably should have. I ran 1.5 miles on the TM and then did 20 mins backward on the elliptical. The thing is, my Achilles doesn't bother me much when I'm running (or at least not tonight) but once I stop, it starts cracking and popping with each step and feels weak. I know I need to take it easy. Tomorrow, no running. :D

[Rozzie]

Nono and MM, healing thoughts! Take it easy. :hug1:

MM, congrats on your addon! How many points did you get? :goodvibes:

[cloudnut220]

Is that your Italian running kit? ;)

Well, I didn't take today off like I probably should have. I ran 1.5 miles on the TM and then did 20 mins backward on the elliptical. The thing is, my Achilles doesn't bother me much when I'm running (or at least not tonight) but once I stop, it starts cracking and popping with each step and feels weak. I know I need to take it easy. Tomorrow, no running. :D

MM-I've learned from my tendon episode that the no pain while running then pain afterwards is classic strained tendon behaviour :-( See if you can find some achilles tendon strenghtening online--my pain was really helped by doing some heel lifts--to strenghten the whole area before it gets worse.

[nono]

Mr. Roz, did you run into anyone else out there running through heaven? Or did you have it all to yourself?

Calves hurt overnight, but they are feeling normalish now. I'm going to take a walk and see what they really are thinking. ;)

[withdisneyspirit]

Awesome pictures, Mr. Roz!!! I love them and want to see more! Did you take pics of any food you ate! :eating: I have to live vicariously through you...:grin:

I hope the calves are better, nono! You too, MM! Congrats on the points at HHI :goodvibes:

Good luck on your review,DG! I have another group interview at a mortgage company this afternoon. They want to present to all the previous New South Federal loan officers. I'm not so interested in this company. I am about to complete my application and on line resume for the bank I met with last week. :fingerscrossed:

The bank I work for now finally posted their year end quarter results and it was another 49 million dollar loss! :oweye: I've got to get out of there...

[cloudnut220]

DG-Good luck in your review!

Lisa--I hope you get that job with the company you liked!

MM--I'm a bit envious of that add on! Everytime we spend all of our points, I want more.

[MatterhornMiss]

MM, congrats on your addon! How many points did you get? :goodvibes:

Too many! :blush: (120 to be exact)

Okay, so I didn't do anything today. Tomorrow I want to do an easy run before yoga. 7 miles is on the book for Saturday.

[cloudnut220]

wow 120! now i'm really envious ;)

[nono]

1800 yards in the pool tonight. I'm so dern tired!

[DisneyGeek]

CN- Glad you enjoyed your friend time.

nono- Sorry to hear about the double cramp! Glad you knocked out your 1800. I like that distance... :)

MrR- Love the pics!

MM- Hope the healing works out... Where were the 120 points at? :listen: Congrats just the same. :thumbsup2:

Lisa- Good luck with the bank / job hunt!!! :fingerscrossed:

I did 45 minutes of 'mill intervals last night & repeated it again tonight. :D Both went well. Compression shorts under the mini-Minuzos ;) worked. :silly:Review went well to boot today. Tomorrow we are going to Red Lobster for dinner; I got a card for $10 off in the mail last night if I pay with Discover. So I'll be going for some cheddar baked biscuits Friday night... :eating:

[MatterhornMiss]

DG they are for HHI which is my favorite overall DVC resort.

First tornado warnings of the year.
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[MatterhornMiss]

Okay so the tornado warning was issued for my area half an hour ago and just expired yet the tornado siren just started sounding 5 mins ago as the wind started dying down.

And now it's stopped.

CN did you know "squiggly line" is a meteorological term? I guess that's what I get when the only local channel I now get is the most ridiculous news team.

Everyone else having as much fun as me :D
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[nono]

Everyone else having as much fun as me :D
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Yep, getting blown to bits here too, but luckily, it's an easterly wind at the moment. (They are just easier to take from the way our house is situated).

It's supposed to get uglier right when Mr. Nono touches down with winds like we had last Saturday, which was our "dry hurricane" day. I'm sure he'll be thrilled to have to drive home in the mess, but hey, he had a week in Amsterdam, so, well, I feel not too much sympathy! :p

Calves are feeling good. Now for all my weekend mileage! :fingerscrossed:

[Rozzie]

Just wait til' Spring MM! There will be a Tornado watch everyday and usually I figure out I am in a warning after it's expired. :confused24: Ahh living in the South. We did knock out 6 miles in a downpour this morning with shorts on, so I guess it's the ying and yang of living here. Never got cold!

Nono, help me with this. How many laps is 1800? I thought about you last night--picked up the latest copy of Oxygen magazine. (which I love) Dana Torres is on the cover and she has her ab workout in there. Mr Roz and I are going to do it for 2 weeks ("Get Amazing Torres Abs in 2 weeks!") so we can look like her. :D You are turning into my personal Torres role model. :) Have you thought about those sleeves anymore?

Lisa, good luck with job hunt! Sounds stressful. :hug1:

[nono]

nono- Sorry to hear about the double cramp! Glad you knocked out your 1800. I like that distance... :)


Coach had an ambitious time-frame for that last night, but the newest gal and I took some serious rests in between and went a little over our hour practice, but we got it done. Lots of variety. The main set was a double of this: 10x 25s (alternating free drill and choice), w/10 sec rest, 2x 125 freestyle (pick-ups on the odd laps) w/20 sec rest, and 1x 250 freestyle.

I forget what we did for warm up and cool down. Did have more leg issues last night, but as I had hoped, getting back on the horse, so to speak, seemed to have helped work out some of the kinks!

[cloudnut220]

MM--Squiggly line is not a standard meteo term...must be something new! :rotfl2: No tornadoes for us (they're pretty unusual in maryland) but we do have those high winds nono was talking about. Supposed to be as bad as last weekend. Not really a big deal for us in Baltimore, but dad was at the beach last weekend and said there was dry sand blowing all over the place and it was really making a mess.

So I never offered a report on my run last night, because well it was embarassing. I was feeling good moving well on the TM and then suddenly I had a horrible immobilizing cramp in my left glute. I jumped off the mill and tried to stretch it out by walking around some. I got it released, but it was still super sore, so I took it as a sign from the universe to cut the workout short. Got home and told Noel, who enjoyed saying "you've got a pain in the arse! hahahaha!" all night. Still feels a little sore this morning (like a charlie horse would be the next day). Seriously, sometimes feel like it's me against my body :(

[nono]

Nono, help me with this. How many laps is 1800? I thought about you last night--picked up the latest copy of Oxygen magazine. (which I love) Dana Torres is on the cover and she has her ab workout in there. Mr Roz and I are going to do it for 2 weeks ("Get Amazing Torres Abs in 2 weeks!") so we can look like her. :D You are turning into my personal Torres role model. :) Have you thought about those sleeves anymore?


Ah, let's see. Overall it was 72 lengths of the pool. 1800/25 (yards). I've seen an argument or two about whether a lap is 1 length or 2. Around here, we use it to mean one way...but given that we have a mix of 25 yard, 25 meter, 50 yard and 50 meter pools, we tend to indicate by yardage (meterage) what was done.

On my log, I'm still converting this to 2/3 running time, so I get an equivalency of 4 miles for it! :goodvibes:

Not considering the compression sleeves at the moment because my problems are all swimming-related. I jumped into this workout pretty hot and heavy. I should expect some pain. Now, if it doesn't regulate itself in the next couple weeks, like by March 10, I'll be thinking new thoughts.

[MatterhornMiss]

Whew! That was a long time for site maintenance.

Signed up earlier today for the Expedition Everest Challenge. One week until I'm at WDW for the ESPN 5K.

Decided I would be smart and NOT run today and do at home yoga instead of the more intense yoga class at the Y. I also am making the point, and letting you all know to hold me accountable, that I am going to walk-run the 7 miler tomorrow morning. I really don't want to do more damage.

So, I finally went to the library yesterday and checked out Dean Karnazes's "50/50" on CD. Now, I will confess, I have no idea who the "big names" in endurance running are. I don't read Runner's World on a regular basis, and it's never been important for me to necessarily know. I find out by being on this thread and going to race expos. So I had no idea who Dean Karnazes was. I found the book by doing a search for Matt Fitzgerald.

Anyway, as odd as it was that I got this audio book yesterday, this morning on Regis and Kelly was the start of Dean's "Run Across America." (Fridays are my day off so I can actually watch Live.) I was intrigued since he started from Sleeping Beauty Castle at DLR. Then, at the end of the show, they announced they were having 5Ks all along his route to run with him. I'm planning on signing up for Indianapolis. It's for a good cause--after starting his 50/50 book, I really know how much it is on his heart to promote running as a cure for illness, especially obesity/childhood obesity.

http://www.dadt.com/live/special/runacrossamerica/index.html

[cloudnut220]

MM--Can you please post lots and lots of pictures of ESPN the Weekend? Someone I know may be having serious Disney withdraw. Like so bad she had panic about 2013 points this morning. In the interest of friends helping friends, please bring a little piece of WDW back for us! :D

[MatterhornMiss]

I'll try and remember, CN ;) I used to be really gung-ho about posting very detailed TR with lots of pics, but now it takes all I have to keep up with this thread.

I am very excited that I finally managed to snag a ticket to the special, AP holder only, EE 5 yr anniversary event Saturday night. The day the tickets originally became available--last Friday--I tried for hours, but just kept getting an error message. I learned the tix were all distributed in 5 mins. So when more became available today, I was ready. I admit, I really didn't think I would be much more successful as I kept getting error messages, but after repeatedly hitting subit for 50 mins, success! It'll probably be totally lame, but it's free and a "special event" that I'll actually be at WDW for, so I want to at least give it a whirl.

I realized I won't be able to make the 5K in Indy as I have other plans that weekend. It's probably for the better to not drive 5 hours one way for a 5K that is more expensive than those at WDW (:scared07:) just to turn around and drive back.

[withdisneyspirit]

The meeting last night at the other firm was 3 HOURS!!!! They had more to offer than I thought but I still think I will be happier striking out on my own (sorta) with my three co-workers. Today was the ultimate in stress because of work and the situation overall and then my 18 year old son complicated it further by breaking off with his girlfriend rather abruptly. They were together just over a year. :( I was in tears several times this morning feeling bad for her. I didn't necessarily see him marrying her but she really leaned on him as one of the most stable people in her life...

To top it all off, I heard a rumor this afternoon that our President of my current bank quit. I wonder if the regulatory agency made him resign. They can do that when a bank is under a cease and desist. I can't say I feel bad about it because he bears responsibility along with other highly placed people for the state of this bank. :mad:

My processor is panicked that if I take this job that no one knows about that she will lose her job. She is hovering around me and it is making me feel so awful. My husband and others keep trying to reassure me that its okay to go to the job I want even if others feel their job is in jeopardy...:blech: I know it is true but my Catholic guilt is trying to overwhelm me. The bank that wants to hire us four doesn't want to commit to taking others until they see what our production is and if they need to hire more support staff. I don't blame them because they don't want to hire and then lay off people...:(

Yes, Rozzie, my life has become unbearably stressful. At least, I have my new once a month painting class tomorrow morning. We are going to do watercolors. After that, Rick and I will go for a run.

[jrbdad]

Lisa-

Sounds like you have choices - that's great :).

MM-

I think it sounds like a blast!

Wish me luck - shoe shopping today :). Can't wait to get fitted. Went to the Nike Outlet yesterday and spent too much money on shorts & t-shirts - so I'd better be able to run again at some point. Will probably give the TM a try tonight at the hotel. PT wants me to "stress" it. But honestly, it still feels pretty stressed.

Hope everyone has a wonderful weekend.

[jrbdad]

OK - 45 minutes & 7 pairs of shoes and 4 different inserts later - the winner is:

Brooks Beast

Big, clunky & motion control. Actually went out and ran the parking lot - no pain!!!!

Hoping to test them on the treadmill later.

I could have spent hours at Fleet Feet. Great store, wonderful service.

Instead - DW & I are now bow shopping for DD10 :).

[Rozzie]

Nice find John, after all if it gets you back to the roads I am sure I would wear high healed clown shoes. Best of luck with your ease back into training!

Lisa, wow. Just wow. I am glad you have Rick to lean on in times like this.

MM, you don't even know how disappointed I am that I am not going next weekend. :-(

I am having a very unproductive day. Actually I ran 5, did my new ab workout and hand weight workout but now the house is sitting with a 1000 chores waiting on me. Blah.