Running Disney

[withdisneyspirit]

Nono, thanks for a great trip report!! Rozzie is right, you have organized yourself far better than I ever have. I am beginning to be more aware of my pace now that I have a Garmin :yahoo: Maybe I can gain in this area too!

Rozzie, that is so very cool about Scott's goal to do the half! You know, that 2010 Half is likely to have a cool 10th anniversary medal also!!! I've been trying so hard to convince my DH to do this with me :D I haven't got him on board though but I sure told him about Scott :goodvibes:

You are right, Gail! Team Peacock is the best! I love being here with y'all on the Running Disney thread :grin:

[nono]

So did you learn all this stuff on your own, from a book, or a mixture? Like where in heck did you learn about coconut water?


Well, I'd like to read books on running, but with my life, I have no real time to do so.

Mostly, I just try to hang out with health nuts, read online about running, and apply what I know from other sports to running. It was likely a health nut that told me about the coconut water. :thumbsup2:

[Rozzie]

Yes, everyone who attempts is a winner as far as I'm concerned.

However, you've done something most of us have yet to accomplish: place in your age group! :yahoo: So, pretty much, you are top Peacock.

Yep, it's official, Gail is the top Peacock!!!! :thumbsup2:

[withdisneyspirit]

Yes, everyone who attempts is a winner as far as I'm concerned.

However, you've done something most of us have yet to accomplish: place in your age group! :yahoo: So, pretty much, you are top Peacock.

Very much agreed!!! I love that pic of you, Gail, with that medal around your neck!!!! :w00t:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Yes, everyone who attempts is a winner as far as I'm concerned.

However, you've done something most of us have yet to accomplish: place in your age group! :yahoo: So, pretty much, you are top Peacock.


Thank you all!!

I forgot to mention that when I was over my son & Dil's for dinner on Sunday, I found out that my grandson got a 1st place medal on the kids Broad Street Run in Philly. I asked him how far did he run and he said it was a lot. He was 3 1/2 at the time of the run. I knew my son did the run but I didn't know about my grandson and his medal. He was so cute explaining how he ran past the two kids in front of him to win.

[nono]

Thank you all!!

I forgot to mention that when I was over my son & Dil's for dinner on Sunday, I found out that my grandson got a 1st place medal on the kids Broad Street Run in Philly. I asked him how far did he run and he said it was a lot. He was 3 1/2 at the time of the run. I knew my son did the run but I didn't know about my grandson and his medal. He was so cute explaining how he ran past the two kids in front of him to win.

Gail that is so cool that you have 3 generations of runners! You guys get to relate to each other in more than just the traditional manner. You also bond as athletes. Very very cool! :goodvibes:

[Rozzie]

Yep Gail, very cool indeed. You are a excellent role model for your whole family! :thumbsup2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Awwwwww Geezzzzz........:blush:

[Rozzie]

Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or an hour, or a day, or a year, but eventually it will subside and something else will take its place. If I quit, however, it lasts forever. --Lance Armstrong

I am sure you all have read that before, but I just came across this quote. It really spoke to me, I also thought of all of my fellow Peacocks too. :)

I know some people are "Armstronged" out, but I can't get enough of the dude. Maybe it's my new passion for running, or my new job where I am around really sick cancer patients all the time, I don't know. But I am loving his quotes!

[nono]

Rozzie,

I think folks like him are modern prophets. People who are radicals, who defy the "conventional wisdom" and show us what is possible.

If we can only see our way through to believe!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Love it Roz..thanks for sharing.

[nono]

OK, I got up early today and wrote up my training plan all the way through the winter.

The Porncess will be my "warm up" for my favorite Ocean Drive 10 miler the last Sunday in March. It'll be a busy month. :yahoo:

[withdisneyspirit]

Gail, there is almost nothing I would be more proud of than inspiring someone else to take up exercise of any type!!! :goodvibes:

I am not Armstronged out and I think that is a fabulous quote! He had every reason to give up and every reason not to! He made the right choice and will always be a role model for me as a consequence!! :goodvibes:

Nono, you crack me up using 13.1 miles as a training run for a ten miler :grin:

[PoohsPal]

Yikes, where does teh time go? Home PC fried last week. I really want ot do my race report justice and hope to get it up tonight. (Taking lT home and hoping ot fix PC)

Wanted to wish Rozzie good luck at ToT. Have a great time!!!

[nono]

Patiently waiting on Carrie's report...:biggulp:

[PoohsPal]

It's coming....

Well for a race that’s only in its 5th year, has 3,000 entrants and is on the same day as many other big races, the Grand Rapids Marathon goes into PR Big Time! As you can see, they had a very fun theme for this year.

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We went to the expo Saturday and were impressed.

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They had some great stuff from the vendors, and I picked up the cutes long sleeved tech shirt with an oval on it that said iRun 26.2. Our race packets were great and we got a ton of free stuff, including really nice socks with the race logo. We got a race poster too.

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They did their pace groups a little different. It was all by stars. There was a Penguin Brigade at 4:44. What do you know? That’s a 2:22 half. That’s would be my PR.

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[PoohsPal]

We left, just as the kids were starting to get ready for their marathon. (They run 25 on their own and finish the last 1.2 at the race. They got medals like ours and even the bagels and fruit and stuff.

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They even lowered the start/finish line for them! Too cute!

I don’t know why, but we were both feeling like it was a big race. Maybe the expo or something. We were way too nervous for a local half, though. Sleep was just like at WDW. WTH?

So, finally it was time to go. It was a little chilly, but that's great for me. I told Scott about my dream pace of 10:45, which Craig had reinforced in my brain, but had been lingering in the back of my mind too. My current PR was 10:50.

We get there and it was a decent crowd.

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We lined up between the Penguin Brigade and Al Gores’ Unfortunate Pace Group (4:58)

We never heard the National Anthem or go or anything, but eventually, we started to move. It was crowded and we started slower then usual, but picked it up ok. Here’s the big city skyline, lol.


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Was feeling pretty good. At mile 4, I was a minute ahead, averaging 10:30. :O Scott asked if we were going to go for a 10:40 pace. I laughed. From 5 to 6, all downhill and pace was low 10s. :-O Scott needed a potty stop at 10 and kept apologizing. OMG. He wanted me to keep running and he'd give me a bottle and try to catch up. No way.

So, I did walk while he stopped. Adjusted clothing and such, stretched. Took some pix of the park. No biggie.

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[PoohsPal]

He caught me and pace was bad (11:30ish), but that's life. Next mile I had to Gu (and that makes me slow) and we had a big uphill. So, better, but not great. ~10:45. Still, it's now mile 8 and we're ahead by 1:40. Ave pace about 10:35. :O Scott had set that as an evaluation point. We were doing awesome and on the prettiest part of the course. Bike path through the woods, next to the river.

Right about then a girl passed us. We chatted with her a bit and she moved on. Then, she was at the side of the road with a calf cramp. She said she was ok. Mile 9 was back to about 10:25. Woo hoo!!!! Just before 10 there was a spot in the path where roots had pushed up the asphalt. I saw it and thought I stepped over. Obviously, my legs and brain were no longer in sync, as I hit. Thought I'd caught myself but then just flew. Don't know how that happened but Scott saw it too. All I could think as I was going down was how I dreaded hitting and wondered how a WISH friend has taken a fall like this and finished a full. I landed with a whoosh as al the air left my lungs. I was telling Scott I'd be ok as soon as I could breathe again. The girl we had talked to made sure I was ok. Scott made me get up right away. Good thing, as I may have laid there and wallowed forever. A guy offered me Advil. Another woman asked if I was ok and what happened, as I was walking and trying to breathe again. I told her and she told me I have to pick my feet up. (Did I mention I thought I had? Thought that was a bit snotty.)

So, after I was almost back to breathing normal, I made myself run. I had a bad mile, obviously, and was really bummed. My left knee hurt and, the heels of my hand hurt. I just kept thinking how my WISH friend always gets back. Then, just after I start up again, there are some inspirational signs from the store where I bought my fun new shirt at the expo. Very cool.

So, I turn the corner and there’s an overpass we go under. They have huge speakers under it that just start booming. What? Rocky! OMG. I know that was put there for me. I start flying. The girl who sold me my shirt is high 5-ing me before the over pass. I was careful not to use my whole hand but that was too cool. We had an uphill I was dreading, but lots of fans. All I could think was that I was gonna' try to get back on track for my friends who don't give up.

So, I'm flying. Get up the hill and pace was coming back. Pass the guy who offered me Advil and he was so kind. Very happy to see that I was doing ok. Small downhill then up again and I was back to 10:15 for the half mile (10 to 10.5, I think). So, Scott looks at me and reminded me that we PR'd our 1st marathon when I fell. He's now telling me that next time I start running poorly, he's going to push me down. Nice. lol.

I just kept picking up steam from there, even though I was getting tired. I was back to low 10s for the last mile. About a block before the finish, the Penguin Brigade catches us. I was afraid that meant I was slow, but knew they had to be fast. Then a couple people pass and tell the others to come up (in front of us). She says they’ll slow down when the others get up there. Grrr… So, there’s now a line of 4 that have passed me and slowed down right before the finish. How rude!!!! So, I put on the gas. Don’ tick me off when I’ve been through what I have, but it hurts me to have an angry attitude towards Penguins, even though it was just a pace group and was not sanctioned by the Penguin or anything.

So, low 9s for the last 0.2. :O :O Forgive me for being vain, but I am so proud of myself for not using it as an excuse to give up. That would be my style. I think it's one of my biggest personal victories, as well as smashing the heck out of my PR.

Garmin: 2:19, 10:30 pace. OMG
Chip: 2:19:10, 10:35.5 pace. Not as good, but still blew away my PR pace by almost 15 sec and my “dream pace” by almost 10!!!

Monday was rough, as I was feeling the brunt of my fall, btu much better now. My knee only hurts to touch. It run fine! :D

[PoohsPal]

lol and nono thgouth she was wordy! :tongue:

Where to start. Looks like a peacok farm aroudn here!!! I'll go alphabetical.

Gail - OMG, I am so proud of an happy fo ryou. WISH you could see my face! Just beaming. Everyone has given you good advice and you have a grat attitude, but I gfelel compelled to share what's on teh bakc o four WISH shirts.: DLF>DNF>>DNS Dead Last FInish is better than Did Not FInish, Which greatly trumps DiD Not Start. You rock!!!!!!

Lisa - OMG, a 10-miler. That is always a huge threashold for me. Great job, especially fo rstartign in the pm adn rain. BTW, you know from last tiem that each tiem you complete a step you will become more and more confident that you can make the next step. Can't wait to hear, espcially when you hit 14.

nono - OMG, that is FABULOUS!!! I am so thrilled for you. Your report seemed so much liek how I felt. I had my dream pace (which shoudl have been my "peacock" pace, but thought it would take a small miracle. I got a huge miracle. You are awesome!!!

Rozzie - WOo hoo!!! I'm guessign I missed you and you are at WDW. :( Great news on teh race adn great news on doing 2010 with Scott!!! I(r will you be going f roteh mickey?) BTW, with the paces you've been running, a 2:30 half is COMPLETELY in reach. You said how we each have our own ourney very well though!

OK, looks liek my home PC is going again. Now to try to get some ifo to write teh article I promised Tim. :blush:

[mickeyndvcfan]

OMG Carrie....so glad you are alright after your fall. And you go right ahead and be proud of yourself. We have all earned the right to be proud of ourselves. It was a busy weekend for Team Peacock.

[withdisneyspirit]

Oh, Carrie! That was an awesome, awesome trip report!!!!!!!!!!! :yahoo: You did so great and I love how you got up after the fall and went for your dream time anyway! Then, you really smashed your old PR and your dream time. Way to go! :hyper::cheerleader::D She is a PEACOCK Oh Yeah!!!!!!!:goodvibes:

[nono]

Carrie,

WAY TO GO!!!!!!!!!

I think I'll have to pop up at some of your races and trip you in the early going so that you can keep kicking the crap out of your PRs. :D

I so would have ditched Mr Nono if he had to take a bathroom break! You are a better woman than I am.

Really well written report too! Worth the wait!

[Rozzie]

Awesome Job Carrie!!!!!!

What a inspirational race report! A lot of people would have just sat in the road, but to get back up and PR! Wow, you are a Peacock!!!!! :yahoo: Oh, and LOL on the Mickey reference. Me? Whatcha smokin'??? :D


I leave Friday after work for WDW. Nervous yet excited about the ToT. I am excited about the race, but nervous about finding packet pick up, figuring out where to go, etc. I know it will all fall into place once I get there. We will have our laptop there, hopefully it will pretend to be a functioning reliable laptop while down there and let me post a race report.

[mickeyndvcfan]

nono...we're still waiting for those fashion shots!!!!!!!

roz...is Scott going to be there with you for the race? Don't forget we need some pics from you also.

[Rozzie]

Nono, I am glad you mentioned ditching Mr. Nono for a potty break. Mr. Roz would have also been left. I even leave him on training runs now, I can't imagine trying to be nice during a race! :tongue:

Carrie, I really enjoyed your pics too, it looks like a really cool race. :) I almost felt like I was there! Except my legs don't hurt....

[withdisneyspirit]

Have a wonderful time at the TOT race, Rozzie! :grin: You must take lots of pictures, please!! :goodvibes:

[Rozzie]

roz...is Scott going to be there with you for the race? Don't forget we need some pics from you also.

He is going to see me to the start, and be there at the finish. I got him a party ticket and he is going to ride rides and such while I'm running. I'll make sure he takes before and after pics of me. I wish I had one of those little camera's like you have to take pics of the race---it's supposed to be really cool this year with lots of special effects. Oh well, maybe next year!

Thanks everyone for the well wishes. I'll try to make Team Peacock proud! :fingerscrossed:

Nono, also waiting on the fashion shots!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rozzie]

Too excited to sleep, look what I found...

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[mickeyndvcfan]

Oh darn...I could have sent it to you to use for the night. It fits perfectly in the pocket on the running skirt.

[mickeyndvcfan]

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[nono]

Well, I emailed my friend Sharon on Monday and it's like she's dropped off the earth. I'll try to call her in the morning and find out what's up. She probably doesn't know how to get her photos off her phone. :)

I don't either. :grin:

[Rozzie]

Ahh Gail, that is too sweet of you but I would be too afraid to carry yours. Let's just say I am a tad bit hard on electronics. ;) Love what you did with the Peacock! :D

[withdisneyspirit]

Beautiful picture :goodvibes:

Nono, one way is to send the picture to your email address if she has that ability as part of her plan.

[PoohsPal]

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This is too cool!!!

lol about leaving DH behind. What you don' realize i tht eh slows himself down to run with me every work out adn every race. I hold him back so much. No way would I didtch him. Plus, he carries most of our water and supplies while making himself run my pace. Nope, couldn't do it.

Thanks for all teh compliments evreyone! lol, I really just wanted to emlt into the asphalt. :p

nono - DOn't pushe me down to soon. In the full, I fell at 4 adn it really hurt by 22. ;)

Rozzie - You already make us proud. Doing this solo is huge! W will eb peoacock proud no matter what you do. I do hope we get to ceelbrate a huge victory with you, though! You will eb fine!!! Do you knwo wher ethe expo is yet? FInding packet pickup will be cake. you'll see people with the stuff. Good luck!!! WIll be cheerign fro you!!! :cheerleader:

[nono]

Here's my official race photos:



Where there's stores on my right, that's got to be somewhere around mi. 7 as I still have my coconut water but no longer have my gloves. The next two are around mi. 11/12 and then the finish line.

[PoohsPal]

Great pix nono!!!! Umm, you didn't kick teh guy behind you in teh second to the last pic when you passed him, did you? :p

Rozzie - WHat will you be wearing? I want to put a few Minnie friends on the look out for you. BTW, getting the pix at night is really hard anyway. Don't worry too much about not having a camera for this one. Then again, I ran with 2 disposables for marathon. :tongue:

[withdisneyspirit]

nono! You looked great in your race pictures! Yes, you do have a runner's build - you have running legs :goodvibes: unlike mine, LOL :scared07: Oh well, running is good for me, regardless :D

I remember you saying that about Scott in the past, Carrie, and I knew he carried some water for you too! You have such a good man :thumbsup2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

nono....great pics...and the pics are proof of what I said, that you always have fun.

[nono]

Great pix nono!!!! Umm, you didn't kick teh guy behind you in teh second to the last pic when you passed him, did you? :p

Guy in the red shorts and green bib? Yeah, what's up with that...green meant marathon and that's around mile 7. He looks like mi 25 in that shot! Maybe he wasn't awake yet...?

[nono]

nono! You looked great in your race pictures! Yes, you do have a runner's build - you have running legs :goodvibes:


I think it is the tights with the skirt! I'm a bit pear shaped and also hourglass shaped, so I'm not what I consider a runner's build. Don't get me wrong, I like my body (My sister says I'm the only woman she knows who has ever said that). It's just not an elite athlete's body. But then again, I don't treat my body the way elite athletes do...

[withdisneyspirit]

LOL, I am definitely pear shaped (no real cleavage on top :rotfl2:) but I am growing to like my body too - it has muscles :goodvibes:


So, I did my first ever - baby - tempo run today. 3.2 miles logged and took over a minute off each mile pace :D

Happy Thursday all, esp. Rozzie with only a bit more time before she goes to conquer TOT :yahoo:

[PoohsPal]

...green meant marathon and that's around mile 7. He looks like mi 25 in that shot! Maybe he wasn't awake yet...?

Oh, I be doubtful taht he finished. I knwo he has a cushion, but he looks liek he hit the wall at mile 2.

[nono]

LOL, I am definitely pear shaped (no real cleavage on top :rotfl2:) but I am growing to like my body too - it has muscles :goodvibes:


So, I did my first ever - baby - tempo run today. 3.2 miles logged and took over a minute off each mile pace :D



Excellent on both counts!!!!!!

[PoohsPal]

Way to go Lisa!!!!

[nono]

Just got back from a 7 mi run with Renee. My foot's been killing me since yesterday, but no problem during the run! :yahoo:

[mickeyndvcfan]

:cheerleader: WooHoo nono.....glad your foot was good for your run.

I've been bad this week....I was out for 30 mins. on Monday and haven't done anything else since. Except for running around getting ready to leave on Sat. I had to go to the foot doctor today so I couldn't get out. I'm hoping to get out tomorrow since I won't be able to do my LR on Sat.

[Rozzie]

Nono--love the outfit and the smile on your face. You really look like you love running. :goodvibes:

Lisa--WTG on the tempo! It sounds like your training is getting better and better. :)

Carrie--I haven't quite decided on my outfit. I know it's my black running skirt, but it's either a hotpink/black tank or a teal tank. They will probably be able to spot me better by the fact I'll be the only sole wearing their water belt. I really need to carry some extra stuff with me (cliff block, cell phone in case I can't find Scott, and some cut up moleskin--long story on that) so I need my Nathan belt. I figure I'll carry my water, I feel naked without it now and it might help my nerves. Plus, this is weird, I spit a lot sometimes when I run and it helps to have a swallow of water afterward. I know, the picture of grace and elegance. :silly:

Gail-- don't feel bad, this week is nuts. You will have plenty of walking next week, plus we are still a month out from when our 1/2 training begins.

Well it was raining sideways after work so I got on the TM at the gym, but started getting nervous as my sciatica was really start to talk to me. Jumped off and went over to indoor track where it felt better. WTH is up with that? I just think my body hates the TM. Anyhoo, I did 3 miles or so. I think I can go the distance on the ToT, but my mind is trying to play games with me. I just tell it to STFU and then things are better. ;)

[withdisneyspirit]

Thanks, everyone :blush: I wanted to quit that run at twenty minutes but I pushed through it!

:rotfl2: Now, I am imagining Rozzie running down the road having a spitfest! :D

So glad you were pain-free, nono!!!!! :goodvibes:

You'll get back on it, Gail, I am sure of that :thumbsup2:

[nono]

Gail, it is so hard when you are building your base, but I promise over time it gets easier.

Thanks for the comments on my smiling. I do run like that all the time. The only time I ran crying was mi 12 to 13.1 at WDW when I could finally run. (I had been hemmed in the whole time before that).

I'm looking forward to this next time...glad to NOT be at an "official" hotel with transportation and all that. We can have Jimmy tunes in the car and chill out in a more appropriate way! :)

[Rozzie]

Gail, it is so hard when you are building your base, but I promise over time it gets easier.

Thanks for the comments on my smiling. I do run like that all the time. The only time I ran crying was mi 12 to 13.1 at WDW when I could finally run. (I had been hemmed in the whole time before that).

I'm looking forward to this next time...glad to NOT be at an "official" hotel with transportation and all that. We can have Jimmy tunes in the car and chill out in a more appropriate way! :)

Wow nono, I can't imagine being hemmed for all that mileage. Hopefully the Richard Petty thing will help spread things out. Though all the stories I read about the traffic in the Jan race makes me want to skip it and just stick to the Porncess each year. Glad your foot is feeling better. I always smile when picture you and Renee on your runs. :goodvibes:

So agree on the Jimmy tunes. I'm happy too not to be at a "official" hotel and all the hoopla. I just want to be in a nice relaxed environment night before the race, I can't think of a better place for that than OKW!

[mickeyndvcfan]

roz....have a safe trip tomorrow night.

It looks like the last of the rain will be on Sat. morning. Have a fun and safe race. :cheerleader:GO TEAM PEACOCK!!!:cheerleader:

[nono]

Rozzie,

Enjoy your trip and the race!!!!

[Rozzie]

Thanks everyone! :)

Nono, I hate we are missing each other this trip. But just a few short months away till' we got a week at OKW together. :thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

HAve a great trip and a great run Roz!!! You CAN GO teh DIstance!

nono - Glad you had a good run!~ ANy idea what's up with teh foot?

Gail - NOno's right. It's hard buildign up, but it will get easier. HOpe you can get your run in today!

I did 50 min solo last night, as Scott is nursing his achilles. (I'm so proud of him for biking lst night). I did ok. GArmin acts up spring and fall adn the wind blew prety strong, but I still ahd a decent time. Get to run at one of my faveplaces tomorrow. Only 6, as I am taperign a bit with dh.

[PoohsPal]

Race pix are in.

-020 is the best one of my boo boo. :tongue:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Race pix are in.

-020 is the best one of my boo boo. :tongue:


where are they :confused24:

[PoohsPal]

rotfl. A link would be nice, wouldn't it? :tongue:

http://www.backprint.com/view_user_event.asp?PID=bp%18yG&EVENTID=41848&BIB=5839&S=230&PWD=

[withdisneyspirit]

Great pictures, Carrie!! There were so many; y'all must have attracted the photographers with the super neon Wish shirts :grin: Love those lime socks you were wearing too :tongue: I could really tell you had a great pace going and I could also see that bad scrape on your knee - ouch! :(

Rozzie - go have fun and make Team Peacock proud :goodvibes:

I am coming down with something - sore throat, chest congestion and poor sleep the last two nights...my inclination is to just sweat it out tomorrow and do my 12 miler anyway. I really don't feel too bad and hate to get off track :confused24: if it is substantially worse by the am, I will re-evaluate :rolleyes:

[PoohsPal]

LIsa - Please be careful adn get a lot of rest. Remeber that if you get realyy sick, you coudl lrisk losing more than just one LR. Hope you're feeling better soon!!! :pixiedust:

[nono]

I am coming down with something - sore throat, chest congestion and poor sleep the last two nights...my inclination is to just sweat it out tomorrow and do my 12 miler anyway. I really don't feel too bad and hate to get off track :confused24: if it is substantially worse by the am, I will re-evaluate :rolleyes:

I think that's a good plan -- you can always turn around and go home if it isn't working out for ya! And, you still get to count any miles you do get in!!!!

--Nono, who will play the part of the father since Carrie has already grabbed the mother role :grin:

[nono]

OK this photo was not worth worth waiting for....

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[PoohsPal]

It shows us just what we want! Very fun pic nono!

--Team mom signing off for the week now. ;) lol, I was grown up at teh age of about 8. After turning 30, I am slowly working my way back. ;)

Have a great weekend everyone!

[withdisneyspirit]

LIsa - Please be careful adn get a lot of rest. Remeber that if you get realyy sick, you coudl lrisk losing more than just one LR. Hope you're feeling better soon!!! :pixiedust:
I promise I'll be good and evaluate my bod carefully, Mom :rotfl2: I can relate as I am one of the original "mother hens" :grin:



I think that's a good plan -- you can always turn around and go home if it isn't working out for ya! And, you still get to count any miles you do get in!!!!

--Nono, who will play the part of the father since Carrie has already grabbed the mother role :grin:

nono, you have a wonderful sense of humor just like my own Dad :D Thanks for the help from both of you!!!! :goodvibes: I'll let you know how many miles I can snag tomorrow!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Carrie...great pics....thanks for sharing

nono with her new line of running gear...thanks for the pic

Lisa....good luck with your run tomorrow and take care of yourself

I didn't get my run in today, but I did get all my packing done and loaded in the trunk. All that is left is the last minute stuff and that stays in the back seat of the car for on the autotrain. :yahoo:

[nono]

Gail,

I'm running Sun-Tues-Thurs-Sat while at WDW (so I guess that's the 2nd and onward). If you want to meet up to "work out" let me know! I've planned all of them as 5 mi...I don't need to run 'em all! ;)

[nono]

--Team mom signing off for the week now. ;) lol, I was grown up at teh age of about 8. After turning 30, I am slowly working my way back. ;)


I know what you mean. I'll help get you there faster! :D Thanks for taking the joke in the spirit in which it was meant! :goodvibes:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Gail,

I'm running Sun-Tues-Thurs-Sat while at WDW (so I guess that's the 2nd and onward). If you want to meet up to "work out" let me know! I've planned all of them as 5 mi...I don't need to run 'em all! ;)


I would love to join you. What time would you be going and where? I did get the map for the trail from VWL to Ft. Wilderness and it says that it is 2.5 miles. I was going to try and get out next week and see how it is since I have never used it before.

[withdisneyspirit]

Woohoo! 3 out of 5 of us going to the world! Carrie, are you tinged in green like me?! :D

[nono]

I would love to join you. What time would you be going and where? I did get the map for the trail from VWL to Ft. Wilderness and it says that it is 2.5 miles. I was going to try and get out next week and see how it is since I have never used it before.

I don't have a clue! I think I'm going to do "it" on Sun/Tues/Thurs/Sat...I'm up for anywhere....

I had to bag a run today (just got home from the day at Mom's and the island is flooding -- not going to be a hero with my foot hurting), so I'll have to do 7s, but again, to do most of it together would be cool!

[withdisneyspirit]

I'm sorry about your foot, nono!

Well, I got my 12 miles done today - I can't say it was pretty though. I actually felt good through mile ten. Miles 11 and 12...I kinda just gutted them out! One thing I did real different is I tried to do a slow sustained jog. I decided this rather spontaneously and was able to do 45 minutes without a walk break. Overall, in three hours, I jogged about 2 hours and twenty minutes of it and walked only 40 minutes! That is a big change for me but it slowed me way down. It was either that or the fact that I am still sick and that slowed me down. Last week, I was a minute and twenty seconds faster per mile with average heart rate of 136. This week, my average heart rate was 149!! :eek: So, sickness definitely affected me. I was a little down on how slow I was :(

Now that I have whined about it, I am going to focus on the positive that I was able to jog twice as much as last week and that I got my 12 miles in while sick :yahoo: Thanks for putting up with me, girls!!

[nono]

Fantastic Lisa! "Dad" is proud of you! :D

Good thing I have a bum foot -- I would have gotten stuck out in a THUNDER AND LIGHTENING storm if I had gone out! Doesn't Mother Nature have a calendar???? It's late Oct. here on the NJ coast. (It's also thicker than thick -- 68F and 102%H!)

[withdisneyspirit]

Fantastic Lisa! "Dad" is proud of you! :D

Good thing I have a bum foot -- I would have gotten stuck out in a THUNDER AND LIGHTENING storm if I had gone out! Doesn't Mother Nature have a calendar???? It's late Oct. here on the NJ coast. (It's also thicker than thick -- 68F and 102%H!)

Oh my! That is horrible humidity, nono!! :eek: And you don't have thunder and lightning up there except spring and summer, right?! Yes, its a good thing you didn't go out, "Dad" :tongue:

[Rozzie]

Only have a second, but just wanted to report I DID IT!

Haven't gone to look at the official, but it was close to 1:33:30ish. Averaged about a 11:30 pace. I couldn't believe it when I finished, and had some gas still in the engine where I could sprint the last 1/2 mile. It was a awesome race, everyone was commenting on how much better this year was than last years. Got in at 0200 and iced my knees for a while, my knees were barking for sure. I promise I'll write a better race report in detail in a day or two when things calm down. Checking out of BCV now and headed to BWV for 5 nights. Wish you were all here! Maybe next year? Team Peacock does the Tower? :D

[nono]

CONGRATULATIONS ROZZIE!!!! I never doubted you'd do well!!!!!!! I was thinking of you while I was out there at dawn getting my 7 miler in...typical noreaster style storm -- it's clear and beautiful here this morning. Yes the thunder and lightening was very weird, Lisa, at this time of the year, as it wasn't a temp change coming through. :confused24: That's the only time we generally get it -- if a wild temp change is coming, and even then, most the time, those just blow on in without a lot of fanfare. :grin:

Yes, I think I could be persuaded to do a ToT run next year.

[withdisneyspirit]

Yay for Rozzie!!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to hear more and hope you are having a blast!!!! I might could be talked into it, though I want to hear more about running at night there and how hot it was :rolleye11:

[withdisneyspirit]

A quote for the day to remind me of what I have to do:



If you doubt you can accomplish something, then you can't accomplish it. You have to have confidence in your ability, and then be tough enough to follow through.
Rosalyn Carter

[PoohsPal]

CONGRATULATIONS ROZZIE!!!
I am so proud of you!! HOpe you got my e-mail. I tried to post , but could not log in from my phone fro teh life of me.

Lisa - OMG, you did awesome. I understand how it's ahrd ot feel good about a run when you struggled, but I hope you are over that and strutting! Way to go!!

nono - Yuckon the island flooding adn teh foot hurting!! HOep thngs are better now.

So jealous of nono and gail gettign together fro LRs. SO aweseom tha tthey are doing it thoguh.

Yes, LIsa, I am a bit green too. :D

[Rozzie]

Thanks everyone for the congrats!

Lisa, you are doing so awesome on your training. I wish there was some Bama race we could do together, that would be so much fun to meet up. I am so about the slow sustained jog. :)

Nono, were we not just discussing lightning--did I jinx you? ;)

Carrie, I got your email, but for some reason my puter is not letting me email out down here. Good thing I am not having to take care of business or something. So you coming with Team Peacock next Oct? :D

Well we got up and ran 3 miles before daylight on the "boards" this morning. I kept thinking of nono for some reason...hehehe. Scott did great and it was his longest distance yet and never had to walk. He is so motivated seeing this race in person. I was really surprised the number of runners up and running in the dark. Yes we get up way too early on vacation, we can't help it...but don't ask if we have gotten a lot done. I think we have done 4 rides in almost 3 days? Lots of F&W though, and some pool time too today. I guess we gotta get crackin' and start WDWing. We are so relaxed though, so I guess we can put a check by that. :thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

Rozzie - 3 miles this morning? Way to go!!!!!! lol. I had to e-mail because my phoen would nto let me post. your computer won't let you -mail. talk abotu teh blind leading teh blind. :p

October - Knew I forgot to post something. Scott adn I are talking about coming down for ToT or RftT. There are some DVCNewsers talking about a possible big gatehring, so I ant ot see what shakes out with that before i ocmmit to one. HOnestly, I am glad they impreoved ToT from last year, but night running is just not my thing. I am not a mronign person, but thats when I run best. :confused24:

[mickeyndvcfan]

I went out this morning (not as early as Roz & Scott) and did 2 miles on the trail at VWL that goes over to Ft. Wilderness. It's a great trail and while I was out a doe & her 2 fawns walked across the path in front of me.

[PoohsPal]

Wow, I am so impressed by ROzzie adn Gail getting their runs in at WDW!!!! Great job!

lol. Still giggle about teh time nono got caught trying to push over BWV before a run. :tongue:

Our run was postposned to today in order to avoid snow adn sleet. :scared07: Hope we do better today or it will be TM time.

I did do an hour of yoga. Yikes have I lost a lot.

[withdisneyspirit]

Oooh, wouldn't I love to be doing training runs at BWV or WLV etc! :D Good for Rozzie and Gail. I know nono will be training there too:tongue:

Thanks for the vote of confidence on my run too, ladies! I am glad I got it done but the sore throat and lack of sleep have taken its toll on me and I am still exhausted.

Can't wait to hear all about these trips though:popcorn:

[nono]

Thanks for the vote of confidence on my run too, ladies! I am glad I got it done but the sore throat and lack of sleep have taken its toll on me and I am still exhausted.



Yeah, but you are only missing short runs eh? AND, you'd still be sleepless and therefore exhausted if you hadn't gone out. You'd also be mental for missing a long run. :silly: So, I still say you did the best thing given the alternatives. :blech:

:tinker:that the sickness leaves you soon!

[withdisneyspirit]

Believe it or not, I did do a short 2 mile interval run this am on my treadmill :tongue: I followed that with lower body strength training. Usually, my workout is non-negotiable :grin:

I wrote that at work when I had hit a low point in being tired:blush: I am thinking positive that things will be looking up tomorrow! And you are so right, nono, I would be mental if I had missed my long run :scared07:

Have loads of fun and tell us all about it please :popcorn:

[PoohsPal]

Lisa - Glad you a feeeling a ibt better. Hope you improve quickly!

nono - SO jealous. Have a good trip!

I did 60 min last night. Stupid blister had me walking, though. Grrr... Have new stuff comoing soon that I hope helps.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Did another 2 miles at VWL today but no dear spotted today. Did a lot of walking yesterday at the parks with Roz & Scott and will be meeting up with the whole gang tonight for F&W.

Carrie.....:scared07: 60 mins. with a blister.....hope it heals up soon.

Lisa........:cheerleader: for keeping up on your training while you are feeling so bad!

[withdisneyspirit]

Did another 2 miles at VWL today but no dear spotted today. Did a lot of walking yesterday at the parks with Roz & Scott and will be meeting up with the whole gang tonight for F&W.

Oooh, can't wait to hear all about it :D

Carrie.....:scared07: 60 mins. with a blister.....hope it heals up soon.

Me too, Carrie, I hope it heals soon!!! :goodvibes:

Lisa........:cheerleader: for keeping up on your training while you are feeling so bad!

Thanks, I am feeling some better today :thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

Thanks fro teh sympathy. It seems liek such a silly thing ot let stop me. HOping otday's plan helps it.

Gail - Way to go on your miles at WDW. That's aweseome!!!

LIsa -Glad you are a little better. Hope it continues!

nono - Have a great trip! Hope the train goes smoothly!

[Rozzie]

Carrie, that is amazing about the blister thing. I can't walk 5 feet with a blister, much less run.

Keep up the good work Lisa! You are kicking butt! :D

Nono, would you be interested in 2 12packs of Yuengling? I'll leave them at bellservices if you are.

[nono]

Nono, would you be interested in 2 12packs of Yuengling? I'll leave them at bellservices if you are.


Is the Pope Catholic?

SURE! Last time, when we left stuff for Stimpy, we had time to mail her the claim check. What you could do is ask the front desk to put the claim check from bell services in an envelope and hand it to us at check in. I'll PM you my name and confirmation number. Yahoo Thanks! :yahoo:

[nono]

7 miles in this morning around the Boardwalk, down to The Studios, etc. The Boardwalk area is definitely the most runner-friendly area of WDW, IMHO. Mr Nono is out now getting his miles in.

So, while I was doing laps I realized why I don't like to run a certain amount of time when training. I CAN'T BEND TIME. But, with the appropriate amount of effort, I can get my run in quicker if I'm running for miles. So there, the key to my psyche. It could totally work in reverse too, just not for my brain. :goodvibes:

[PoohsPal]

nono - Great job on gettign those miles in!!

I prefer miles to time, because there seems to be no reward for running faster on a timed run. DH has set up a new policy fro his solo runs adn I think I may follow. You set a goal pace. If you are meeting that on teh way out, you turn around a a pre-determined point. For example, if he's doing a 45 min run, we would usually run just over 4 miles during that time. So, before the run, he will tell himself that he gets to turn-around at the 2 mile mark if he's doing a 10 min pace. If he keeps that pace up, he only has a 40 min run. So the faster he goes, the more minutes he can cut off his run. It's got to be a significant goal pace, though.

WOo hoo!! I ordered some patches from goengo.com (http://www.goengo.com) last week. The stick on your shoe or insole wherever it rubs. For me, I put it on the rub spot in my orthodics. It's like a really smooth teflon. Between that, a few rest days on teh blister and a band aid that stuck well, I was golden Saturday. DId my 12-miler in 2:14 without any irritation. Yay!!!!!!

BTW, teh good band aid was Band-Aids's blister bandage. They stay on for several days (yes, you're supposed to leave them on that long). With the right blister, they work wonders. However, tehy have a medicated pad that swells up. Most of the time, it's extra cushioning. A few times, though, I have found it creates more pressure and irritates teh spot. So, if you use tehm, put them on when you have several hours (or overnight) pre-run, so that you can tell if it will help or hurt before you run.

[Rozzie]

Just sitting here thinking about March. Anyone else going to the P&PP the night of the race? I know Scott, Gail and I are going. Hope others join us in the fun! I've never been to one of those parties and thought it would be fun to check it out. :)

[Rozzie]

Finally got some pics uploaded from CD:

First one is me in BW Lobby, we all (DisneyRunning.com) met up there to walk over to race together.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC1643-1.jpg

Next one is my pacing group rounding into MGM (or whatever the heck it's called today). We were having a absolute blast and so relieved to be in the park.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/CSC1821.jpg

Last one is one of the pacing group I was in with our medals. From left is Lisa ( also new to endurance racing) middle is Andi from Disneyrunning.com, seasoned Marathon pro who lives just up the road from me, and of course me.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h192/Rozzie1/DSC1660.jpg

[withdisneyspirit]

Great pics, Rozzie!!! You look so cute in your running skirt :cheerleader:

Sorry for being MIA again. Partly it was my subscription to the thread getting dropped again :wassat: and the rest was being too busy!!

I did do my six mile run this past weekend. It was a frustrating run. We picked a park we had walked at before but for a run, it stunk big-time. It was a gravel type trail and it has several harsh slants in it that made my left knee hurt. I also tied a shoe too tight and got a very bad pain on the front of my ankle. It bruised and looked like I had bruised a vein or something. I had to walk more on my last mile because of it :mad:

Anyway, I am hoping very much to have a good 14 miler this weekend. I am overdue and I will be sure to pick a spot that is good for running!! :thumbsup2:

Today, I spent all day in the Cullman area attending a funeral for my SIL's dad. I am glad to be home but I feel so bad for her losing her dad :( I truly cannot imagine how hard it must be!!!!

[nono]

OK, I have a lot of nice things to say about the last few posts, but i've been drinking since 11:01 a.m. (when World Showcase opens) and it would come out all wrong. So I'll wait.

I have a 7 miler tomorrow morning, but I'm going to ace it, 'cause I have coconut water in the fridge from Whole Foods. (You just got an advance peek at my trip report).

Tonight Athenna and I were laughing about how my trip report has us stuck on the train while life is going on quite merrily here....:yahoo:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Great pics Roz!!!!


nono...what time are you planning on going out tomorrow morning?

[nono]

I'm hoping by 7 - 7:30 -- you interested???!!!!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Sure...where do you want to meet?

[nono]

Is the Boardwalk too far out of the way for you? We could do laps there...???

[mickeyndvcfan]

The BW will be fine. We have the car so it's just a short ride.

[nono]

Cool! Let's say 7:30? I'll meet you near the Boardwalk Bakery. I'll have my phone if anything goes wrong. :)

[mickeyndvcfan]

:thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

OK, lots of jealousy coming through. Happy oyou 2 are getting together, though.

ROzzie - Awesome pix! I'm so glad you got a pic of the three of you. Too cool!

Lisa - SOrry about the less than stellar 6 and really sorry about the funeral.. How awful. :hug1:

nono - Glad you aren'ts tuck on the train. :)

OK, had one of my best 60 min runs ever last night. I really don't like mu runs during teh week adn dislike teh 60 min ones even worse. SO, bug victory for me. Then, off to yoga. Tiring night, but that means my rest day today is well deserved!

[Rozzie]

Lisa, don't let one bad run get you down. I always try to imagine where you are running in Bham, a visual. If I ever make my way up there, you will have to tell me where this "bad spot" is. Sorry about the funeral, please send our condolences to your SIL. :(

Well I did my hilly neighborhood today for a run. I haven't run in my neighborhood since the summer, and OMG I remember why. The hills about killled me. Only could crank 4 miles. I did pick Peter up for the last mile, and he had a blast, ran really well and could have gone on till tonight if his mom had the energy. :unsure:

Carrie, I'm writing down the blister information. I am really prone to hot spots and need all the help I can get. Congrats on the awesome 60 min run! :thumbsup2:

Way jealous of nono and Gail. I fell in love with my early morning runs on the BW and to MGM. I think I will for sure add on there just for the running spots. :p

[Rozzie]

So how did the run go nono and Gail? :listen:

Well I got good news and okie dokie news. Good news is the ressie is made for Olivia's for March 7. Party of 15. Bad news is the only time they have before 935pm was 525pm. I know that is earlier than what we talked about, and I'll understand if ya'll maybe want to do something different. I made the ressie until we could make a final decision.

[PoohsPal]

Rozzie - That works for me!!! Thanks so much for doing this!!!

[withdisneyspirit]

I think Mom and I will be good with it too, Rozzie! Thanks :goodvibes:

[nono]

Time is good for me!

Gail & I walked -- and oh how I have proof that running is easier than walking!!! :eek: My shin is barking like a 6 month old beagle.

[mickeyndvcfan]

nono....sorry for your barking shin from walking.

Roz....I go when you go so the time is fine with me.

[nono]

nono....sorry for your barking shin from walking.

Roz....I go when you go so the time is fine with me.


Gail, I tried drinking it quiet tonight, but not perfect results. :D To many steps between kiosks (huts) in World Showcase!

[Rozzie]

Gail, I tried drinking it quiet tonight, but not perfect results. :D To many steps between kiosks (huts) in World Showcase!

Did anyone ask where the barking sound was coming from? :D

[PoohsPal]

Bummer on teh shin splints nono!!!! Have you tried wearing your runnign shoes while in teh parks. The extra support and cushion may help.

[Rozzie]

Hey, I found some cool race highlights from the TOT race. Thought it would hype some of ya'll up to sign up for next year. :D

YouTube - Tower of Terror 13K 2008 highlights

[nono]

I'm there Rozzie! Thanks for posting!!!

[withdisneyspirit]

That does look like a lot of fun!! :D Was the medal cool this year, Rozzie? :popcorn:

[Rozzie]

That does look like a lot of fun!! :D Was the medal cool this year, Rozzie? :popcorn:
It was! I have a not so close pic in my TR (or Jessie's one I should say). I thought I had posted a pic over here too, maybe I didn't. It was the elevator shaft and you could move it up and down. Can't wait to add to it. :thumbsup2:

[nono]

I'm in for sure and I think and hope our friends will be able to come at the same time next year as well!

Rozzie, were there any cheering areas? I know it's late at night, but was just wonderin'.

[nono]

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/cancer/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=100199917&gt1=31025

[PoohsPal]

nono - If your scream team gets party tix, they can cheer in MGM. Not many other spots that I recall. COming into MG was awesome last year.

I'm still giong btwn RFTT anf ToT. HOnestly, TopT is too late for me. however, just waiting to see when teh "official" DVCNews meet will be held to see which one i do.

[Rozzie]

I'm in for sure and I think and hope our friends will be able to come at the same time next year as well!

Rozzie, were there any cheering areas? I know it's late at night, but was just wonderin'.

Scott had a party ticket and got to see me several times in the race inside MGM. Even saw me at the finish too. Kinda special as this was the first race of mine he has attended. The after party was great this year, hardly any waits for anything. Some DisneyRunning folk said they rode TSM 4 times in a row without getting off, but finally their hands got tired. :tongue:

Carrie, I really thought this race was too late for me. I am usually in bed by 830 pm at the latest. I was surprised that I stayed up till 0200, well then again I had a big ole' power nap before hand. Were you really tired for last year's race?

[Rozzie]

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/cancer/slideshow.aspx?cp-documentid=100199917&gt1=31025

I really need to start Yoga back up. Oh and be mindful when I'm eating. I'm really bad about staring at the TV while I eat. :eating:

[Rozzie]

In case anyone is in the mood to shop for winter running stuff this morning, Skirtgoddess has a code out! The code is DisneyR and it gets you 15% off. The re/de capritightsskirts thingys are real popular on DisneyRunning, everyone swears by them over there (of course they are already out of my size), oh and the courage shirts are real popular too. I myself am going to get another black skirt (commitment) and the mayan blue (that just sounds fast for some reason :D) courage shirt. It's part of my Christmas, it's nice having the agreement that I buy what I want and put a sticker from Mr. Roz under the tree.

http://www.skirtgoddess.com/products/default.aspx

[nono]

I just realized I have 1 night too few at OKW -- whoops. Gotta call tomorrow and try to add one more night!

[PoohsPal]

Oops nono! Good luck on teh ressie!

Rozzie - I was beat. Plus, we arrived that day adn teh ILs were there and we went to/from DTD from SSR (furthest building in Grandstands) twice. just took it's tool on me. That being said, looks like we'll be doing it in 09 now!!! Woo hoo!!!

[PoohsPal]

FYI - In case you didn't catch it, the last week of October is going to be teh "official" DVCNews days. :cheerleader:

[nono]

FYI - In case you didn't catch it, the last week of October is going to be teh "official" DVCNews days. :cheerleader:


Great. Now you want me to be sociable too. :headbrickwall:

[Rozzie]

Did you get your ressie nono? :listen:

Carrie, staying at BCV that night of the race made all the difference. If I can't get in BWV/BCV for race night, I am going over to the Swalphin. :)

[nono]

Yes! I got my last night! As for Oct....I think I'll still be in OKW -- Mr Nono really wants to be there, and I guess I really do too! But, I'll have my :driver:, and OKW is very close by...

[PoohsPal]

Yay nono!

Rozzie - We could only get in SSR, which was fine, we thought. That location in teh Grandstands really stunk, though.

[Rozzie]

You didn't like the Grandstands Carrie? We loved it there last Dec. First bus stop, and a short hike to the Carriage House. Now I would have a meltdown if I ever got the Carousel. :silly:

Well I am officially broke from running clothes shopping this weekend. Good news is Scott's shopping for Christmas is done. ;)

[nono]

Getting ready to go running -- just looked at the entire NB WebExpress catalog and there's not a darn thing I want! :scared07:

OK, onto the Nike store to see if they have anything I like....

[PoohsPal]

You didn't like the Grandstands Carrie? We loved it there last Dec. First bus stop, and a short hike to the Carriage House. Now I would have a meltdown if I ever got the Carousel. :silly:

Well I am officially broke from running clothes shopping this weekend. Good news is Scott's shopping for Christmas is done. ;)
We wre teh farthest building from CH. Seemed forever. I think I hated taht I had to walk around teh parking lot. First place we have ever disliked on site. In fact, next time I reserve SSR, I will likely request not Paddock or Grand Stands, adn I have never made a request before. lol, we loved Carousel. Loved taking teh bridge to CH. That was was fine. Walk to Dtd was much shorter too. Talk about different strokes. Too funny!

[Rozzie]

Yep Carrie, it is funny about how everyone experiences things differently. :)

Okay gotta question, how many times a week do you run? I currently only run 3x a week. 2 off days, 2 cross training days. This is my dilemma, I really feel like I could run more now, and want to run more. So I am thinking of doing this.

M-Run (short)
Tues-Crosstrain
Wed-Run (short)
Thurs-Run
Fri-Crosstrain
Sat-LR
Sun-Off

The Penguin plan has Wed as a off day. And am I the only one that hates XT? I think I'm going back to Yoga and I will enjoy that more. I hate the stair machines at the gym. :blech:

[withdisneyspirit]

I'm still alive, girls!!! I had a confidence issue Saturday. I did my 14 mile training run that Carrie was so interested in. I did great for the first ten miles (I was flying high), then I did okay for the next two miles and then....I walked the last two miles...to my great chagrin (and feeling so low). I started out feeling so confident and by the end, I was totally second guessing my ability to do a marathon :unsure: In my defense, the reason I slowed down to a walk was that the bruised nerve from the week before started acting up again around mile 11 and I just felt it was getting worse. That and my hip knees and ankles were mad at me - I don't know why :rotfl2:

The funny thing is, that as I got more distance from the run, I started to feel better about myself and reached for the positive. It was my longest run ever and I recuperated almost immediately from doing more than a half-marathon :D I barely feel any tightness in my knees going down stairs and no soreness sitting down or getting up. This is a clear sign that I have a more advanced fitness level. So, I have been working at rebuilding confidence now.

I really wish I could do the October trip that y'all are discussing...I don't think we can since we are going to HHI in June but I am not going to rule it out yet.
So, I AM going to keep forging ahead to my first marathon in 2009 - YAY!

[nono]

Rozzie, I was surprised at how good I felt when I went to a Mon-Fri schedule of 5 days in a row running with 2 days off for the summer. I vote for you to give it a try -- do an extra 2 or 3 miler for a couple weeks and see what you think! :cheerleader: As for cross-training, I don't do it, unless you count carrying the kids around. I think yoga is a cross-training, and probably one of the best for runners. Just an opinion, but yoga seems to right a lot of tightness caused by running.

[Rozzie]

Oh Lisa, I so look up to you for attempting the Full. I know you are going to do awesome. I can't imagine doing 26.2 miles, much less 14 that you just did this weekend. Secretly you are motivating me to consider giving it a try though. I know Scott is doing the 1/2 in 2010, there is this little devil on my shoulder telling me I should go for the full in 2010. Every time I read one of your posts I feel myself inching for toward it. Go Lisa! :cheerleader:

Nono, I think I am going to go for more running days. Probably get a yoga DVD just to do at home on the XT days. My gym only has classes in the morning when I'm working, and the night classes at private studio's are a arm and a leg.

[withdisneyspirit]

Yep Carrie, it is funny about how everyone experiences things differently. :)

Okay gotta question, how many times a week do you run? I currently only run 3x a week. 2 off days, 2 cross training days. This is my dilemma, I really feel like I could run more now, and want to run more. So I am thinking of doing this.

M-Run (short)
Tues-Crosstrain
Wed-Run (short)
Thurs-Run
Fri-Crosstrain
Sat-LR
Sun-Off

The Penguin plan has Wed as a off day. And am I the only one that hates XT? I think I'm going back to Yoga and I will enjoy that more. I hate the stair machines at the gym. :blech:

Thanks, Rozzie, I'm definitely going to give it my best try even if I have to walk more than I want!

I cross train on my recumbent bike and do strength training. I agree with nono (a common theme :p) that yoga and strength training are very good cross training tools for runners. I especially try to focus on all the muscles that attach to the knees and protect the knees while running :thumbsup2:

[withdisneyspirit]

Motivation is what gets you started. Habit is what keeps you going.
Jim Ryun



The Peacocks are good at this!!!:yahoo:

[PoohsPal]

LIsa -Sorry tha tyour 14-miler was not sa great as you wanted. You finished, though!!! You know, soemtimes it does take some time and space to realize you really did well. DId I mention I swore I'd never do another full when I finished in 06? Hope that neerve heals! Ouch! I would imagine that had a lot to do with walking the end., not that there's anythign wrong with that.

ROzzie - For teh full plan, we do 4x's per week about every other week. Just start with easy back to back and you'll be fine. Warning, the first time you do a back to back, it is hard. Unbelievably hard. The muscles tha tare tired from teh day before are not the ones that you are using. Thes e are back up muscles, so to speak, that never get used. So, if it's tought teh first time, don't worry. Just taek it easy, your body will adapt adn you will eb better fro it in the long run. BTWm yoga once a week is my only XT. I was great in teh summer when I was tri training, but full training just takes up too much time for me. So, I hear you on teh XT!

nono - ANy success with Nike? DO you ever look at Joe's NB outlet? Great deals!

I di d60 min last night. it stunk. Todya is a rest day, though adn tomorrow shoudl eb ebtter.

[nono]

Motivation is what gets you started. Habit is what keeps you going.

Jim Ryun






The Peacocks are good at this!!!:yahoo:




Beer at the end is what makes you finish.

[nono]

nono - ANy success with Nike? DO you ever look at Joe's NB outlet? Great deals!



Nothing at the nike site grabbed me either. Or adidas. Apparently, I'm a last-year's model girl. I'll check Joe's today. Also will check Runningwarehouse. Sportsbasement didn't have anything interesting...

Thanks for the reminder on Joe's - I might have forgotten to visit there!

[nono]

Hey Carrie -- You called it -- I love these and I believe Santa paid full price last year.

http://www.joesnewbalanceoutlet.com/detail.asp?style=WRP7305BK

Santa is "averaging down" on this pant style. :)

[PoohsPal]

HOly cow! That's a steal nono! I don't go tehre often, as I always end up buying. ;)

[nono]

HOly cow! That's a steal nono! I don't go tehre often, as I always ebd up buying. ;)

I can vouch for those pants too -- they are W-A-R-M!

[mickeyndvcfan]

:cheerleader: Lisa ....great job on the 14 miles!!!!!!!!!


Came home From Disney with a pain in the a$$ cough so I just went out today for the first time and walked a mile with Maggie. I hope I can get out tomorrow, get to Curves on Friday and be able to do a LR on Sat. :fingerscrossed:

nono......great find...I'm going to have to get me a pair of them for the winter. And they have my size too! :thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

Welcome back Gail!!! DOn't push too hard with that cough! Hope youa re feeeling better soon!

[withdisneyspirit]

Very funny, nono! Not sure I could really drink beer at the end of any big run. :eek: DH and I walked a retro 5k here put on by the local Trak Shak and they had beer. The only beer I really like is Guinness, believe it or not :p

How cold does it have to be to warrant those thermal pants, nono? I am trying to decide if it gets cold enough here for me to buy them :unsure: I really need a new pair of running shoes to break in for the marathon. It could have something to do with the aches and pains I felt the day of my 14 miler!

Sorry you are under the weather, Gail. Why did our happy place do that to you????

[withdisneyspirit]

LIsa -Sorry tha tyour 14-miler was not sa great as you wanted. You finished, though!!! You know, soemtimes it does take some time and space to realize you really did well. DId I mention I swore I'd never do another full when I finished in 06? Hope that neerve heals! Ouch! I would imagine that had a lot to do with walking the end., not that there's anythign wrong with that.

ROzzie - For teh full plan, we do 4x's per week about every other week. Just start with easy back to back and you'll be fine. Warning, the first time you do a back to back, it is hard. Unbelievably hard. The muscles tha tare tired from teh day before are not the ones that you are using. Thes e are back up muscles, so to speak, that never get used. So, if it's tought teh first time, don't worry. Just taek it easy, your body will adapt adn you will eb better fro it in the long run. BTWm yoga once a week is my only XT. I was great in teh summer when I was tri training, but full training just takes up too much time for me. So, I hear you on teh XT!

nono - ANy success with Nike? DO you ever look at Joe's NB outlet? Great deals!

I di d60 min last night. it stunk. Todya is a rest day, though adn tomorrow shoudl eb ebtter.

I have already been considering that I might have one marathon in me but halfs really are doable. With the arthritis, I may have to stick with shorter distances after I do this marathon - we shall see...

[mickeyndvcfan]

Sorry you are under the weather, Gail. Why did our happy place do that to you????


:confused24: Wasn't very nice, was it?

[Rozzie]

Gail, funny thing is I came back sick too. I wasn't as sick as you sound, but a general blahhh with low grade temps and body aches for a few days. Thought I was getting the flu, but dodged that bullet. Hope you are feeling better soon.

Hey that's a cool link nono. :thumbsup2:

[nono]

The only beer I really like is Guinness, believe it or not :p

Guiness is a great beer, esp. for women. High in iron. And not too high in carbs without resorting to GMO. But, seriously, on tough races, I chant: "Beer. Beer. Beer." Out loud. Makes a lot of runners laugh. Makes a lot of them run faster too. I love :beer:.



How cold does it have to be to warrant those thermal pants, nono? I am trying to decide if it gets cold enough here for me to buy them :unsure:

Um, pretty cold. I wear them in 20 degree, 30 mph wind conditions, which is going to be coming along all too frequently around here!

[withdisneyspirit]

Guiness is a great beer, esp. for women. High in iron. And not too high in carbs without resorting to GMO. But, seriously, on tough races, I chant: "Beer. Beer. Beer." Out loud. Makes a lot of runners laugh. Makes a lot of them run faster too. I love :beer:.

Yay about Guinness being high in iron and low carbs. DH had one at dinner tonight and we looked for the carb count - 9.9, I believe. I laughed at the beer chant :rotfl2:

Um, pretty cold. I wear them in 20 degree, 30 mph wind conditions, which is going to be coming along all too frequently around here!

I guess I won't need them after all :rolleye11:

[nono]

OK, Lisa, that's weird. My H had one at dinner tonight too! :biggulp:

Oh, I didn't know if everyone is aware of this tool from Runner's World:

http://www.runnersworld.com/cda/smartcoach/0,7148,s6-238-277-278-0-0-0-0,00.html?starf=&lrdy=0&slen=16&trainstart=ds1226905242813&startf=checkforward&hour=0&mins=0&secs=0&rlen=fivk&rdst=fivk&mpwe=11&diff=mod#definitions

It'll put together training plans for you up to 16 weeks out. I love it because it shows you different levels of training with just a click of a button. Since I can't sleep tonight, I just checked my 16 week plan against their moderate plan, and I'm being a bit wussy total miles wise, but I'll be running my training runs faster than it would want me to be doing.

So, I'm thinking that'll even things out. I'll find out at the Porncess, eh? ;)

[withdisneyspirit]

Ooh, cool, nono! I was awake for good at 4:20am :( so I am now playing on your training plan. It even let me put in a 9 week training plan to prepare for my marathon!

The longer you have to prepare though, the harder it works you. MfM is more realistic for someone like me. The LR's on a 16 week plan toward the end on Runner's World look like this: 14, 16, 5, 18, 20 16, 6, 20, 12, 8 and then the 26.2 :eek::scared07: I don't think I can manage that kind of mileage :blush:

[PoohsPal]

Wow, that trainign tool is tough. Seems liek people like us would get injured. We had a trial of teh amgazine for a while and it was for atheletes way above us. :(

[nono]

Ooh, cool, nono! I was awake for good at 4:20am :( so I am now playing on your training plan. It even let me put in a 9 week training plan to prepare for my marathon!

The longer you have to prepare though, the harder it works you. MfM is more realistic for someone like me. The LR's on a 16 week plan toward the end on Runner's World look like this: 14, 16, 5, 18, 20 16, 6, 20, 12, 8 and then the 26.2 :eek::scared07: I don't think I can manage that kind of mileage :blush:


You've already unlocked the key! And without a full-night's sleep. :rotfl2: I think what's great about the tool is that you can use it to your benefit just to see what other coaches would do with you. And, I love that you can do a shorter than 16 week plan. I used it last summer for a 2 week plan to get ready for my 10 mi sand run, and while it wasn't my best result (how could it be with a 2 week prep!), it gave me a way to do the best with what little time I had.

Also, I will say this again for the record: training for a 1/2 marathon is way different than training for a marathon. So realize, I'm always approaching this in terms of the Porncess...not anything else. :)

[nono]

Wow, that trainign tool is tough. Seems liek people like us would get injured. We had a trial of teh amgazine for a while and it was for atheletes way above us. :(

OK, Dad talking ;):

Maybe, maybe not. If you combine it with the body-sensing you've developed in your years of running (in other words, knowing when to back off or pour it on more), you might be surprised at how closely you could follow it. But again, realize, I'm not looking at this for anything past a 1/2 marathon length. And usually not a 16 week plan. And not past "moderate" mode. :goodvibes:

[PoohsPal]

There's no way my hamstring could hold up to that. Scott's achilles either. In my mind, that's for those who are going to qualify for Boston and such. FOr those of us who just want to finish, no way. At least, no those of us whose bodies start feeing stuff when we peak at 20.

[withdisneyspirit]

I do agree in part with you nono that it encourages good mid-week training runs too. I really liked how it gave me a tempo run pace to shoot for and a long run pace. It was geared to my 3 hour half marathon pace and I really appreciate knowing the paces I should shoot for. In fact, I used it this am for my quasi 2 mile tempo run. :rotfl2: Its all I had time for but I ended up doing a 12:35 pace instead of my usual 13 - 13:30 pace :D

[PoohsPal]

OK, I may have to go play with it to see what it will give me fro training paces for my goal marathon time.

I do like that you can do the short prgrams too. This may have helped Rozzie train fro ToT.

[nono]

There's no way my hamstring could hold up to that. Scott's achilles either. In my mind, that's for those who are going to qualify for Boston and such. FOr those of us who just want to finish, no way. At least, no those of us whose bodies start feeing stuff when we peak at 20.

Don't think of it for marathons...think of it for your other races!

[PoohsPal]

Yeah, I caught that you said that. It just went with my feelings that RW is above me. Of course, curiousity got the best of me anyway. ;)

Funny, though, the moderate programs fro teh full with mytime frm my last half and my mileage and 8 weeks to go was really reasonable. Funny, you only run 3 times a week. Yes, the mid week run is much further than I usually go, but with the easy Monday run, adn I mean E-Z, not bad at all.

[withdisneyspirit]

Woohoo, we all found something to like :tongue: Hey, y'all may not hear from me again till Monday. I am going on a teen church youth rally to Florida :scared07: Its gonna be real hard to get my 8 miler in :wassat: Wish me luck - I'm bringing my duds and my 305 because we have one block of free time on Sat afternoon :thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

Good luck LIsa! Have fun!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Woohoo, we all found something to like :tongue: Hey, y'all may not hear from me again till Monday. I am going on a teen church youth rally to Florida :scared07: Its gonna be real hard to get my 8 miler in :wassat: Wish me luck - I'm bringing my duds and my 305 because we have one block of free time on Sat afternoon :thumbsup2:


Have a great time Lisa.. That much time with a bunch of teens could be considered as a very long crosstraining session.:rotfl2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Well, today was a washout for my run (literlly). It's been raining here all day so no walk for me. It's suppose to rain on Sat. also, but end in the afternoon so hopefully I will be able to get out then. Gotta find some place inside that I can go to when the weather is bad.

[nono]

Yeah, I caught that you said that. It just went with my feelings that RW is above me.


"Dad" is going to have to schedule a family meeting if talk like that keeps up! NOTHING is above you. :)

[PoohsPal]

"Dad" is going to have to schedule a family meeting if talk like that keeps up! NOTHING is above you. :):goodvibes:

[PoohsPal]

Did you uys get the Pornces Diary? While there is so much about the race that I don't like, I LOVED that e-mail. It was really cute adn fun. Besides the company, it's the firs tthing that really got me enthused about the race itself. Yay!!!

Was a slug yesterdayl but have my final half of teh year Sunday. Can't wait.

Funny, I say RW is above me. But, at the end of teh year, I will have done a full, 5 halfs, a 15K, 2 tris and several smaller races. :O NEVER in a million years di I think Iwould do so much, even after I finished my first full. Dad's right. RW articles just don't seem geared to racing my way would be a much better way of putting it.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Got my Porncess Diary today also.

[Rozzie]

Got my Porncess Diary today too. Too cute. I am really getting stoked. :)

Lisa good luck with your own little Marathon this weekend. The thought of what you are going to do exhausts me. :blush:

Speaking of RW, I got my first 2 magazines in the mail this week. I really liked the articles, maybe not so much the training regimens. There was a really good article about why Marathoners have dropped dead. It is a question that has plagued me for many years. Very informative and really interesting. (Just to relax everyone, running is still very good for you, LOL ;))

Carrie, if I had done what you did this year, I would feel top of the world. You have accomplished so much. :thumbsup2:

Hey "Dad", I did my second back to back running and felt great on the second day, even better than the "first". What's up with that? :D

Gail, How you feeling? :listen:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Still got the pain in the a$$ cough. The coughing is irritating but the worst part now is that my stomache muscles and chest hurt from all the coughing. It is getting better and not coughing as much. I'm really po'd that I didn't get out this week except for that one mile walk I did with Maggie. I have the grandkids tomorrow for the day so I'll be getting a lot of CT done. I haven't seen them since we got back so it will be fun. If it stops raining tomorrow after the kids are gone, maybe I can get out for a little while. Sunday is training day for Maggie. After being away from her for 2 weeks she really needs to go badly. She's being the bad child and trying to see if mommy feels guilty for leaving her for so long by doing things she knows she isn't suppose to do. She is driving me :silly:

[nono]

Hey "Dad", I did my second back to back running and felt great on the second day, even better than the "first". What's up with that? :D



BECAUSE RUNNING IS GOOD FOR YOU!!!!! :thumbsup2::thumbsup2::thumbsup2:

Didn't you just say that 2 paragraphs back in the same post? It's also good at postponing dementia, which is really good, 'cause you and I are sure gonna get it. :D But have no fear. We'll be at OKW sittin' at the Suitcase, after a run, and trying to remember Capt'n Wahoo's name. And telling the young whippersnappers what it was like "in the old days." And ordering Sultry Seahorses....

[nono]

Still got the pain in the a$$ cough. The coughing is irritating but the worst part now is that my stomache muscles and chest hurt from all the coughing.


On the plus side, it's excellent cross-training. ;)

[mickeyndvcfan]

On the plus side, it's excellent cross-training. ;)


Thanks nono....leave it to you to find a silver lining! :rotfl2:

[Rozzie]

Soooo, how safe do you feel when you run alone? To be honest, I used to feel fine, as long as it's daylight and I had a cellphone. Yesterday though changed things. A girl was abducted from a parking lot and found in the lot behind yesterday. Raped and murdered. All this took place less than a mile from my running path uptown. It's a safe community, a false sense of security I suppose. I try to run around people, but it's a long path and I can't say that there is always people around.

On the other hand, I don't want to live my life in fear. A victim to fear. I just can't live my life that way. So I compromised with Scott, and promised I wouldn't run alone until this psycho is found. Usually I am with my running buddies, but sometimes our schedules conflict. I guess I'm just talking out loud. It is freaky to think, how your life can be over in a instant like that. We could also die in car accidents, and I still drive. I just don't know the happy medium. I actually like to run alone, alone with my thoughts sort of thing.

Just wondering what safety things the other Peacocks take while running alone.

[nono]

I usually run with Renee. And around here, in the off-season, the cops stalk me (for real, and I'm hoping in a good way).

Read The Gift of Fear by Gavin DeBecker. He's got great advice on how to listen to your instinct to be more aware when something's going wrong.

Advice from my dear departed Dad, who lived most of his life in bad areas:
Don't always run at the same time and in the same, predictable path. If you always run by the weirdo's house at 5 pm on T/Th, when he's going to go off, he knows when to come get you...if you're just an "occasional" and not a "predictable" you are less likely a target (not completely safe, just tipping the odds in your favor).

Some folks run with pepper spray. I'm afraid I'd end up hurting myself with it. I've also taken self-defense courses in the past, but just hope that if my time comes, being crazy myself might just save me...

[lllovell]

Hey runners!

Carrie asked me to pass along that the course for the Princess is the same as the course for the 1/2 marathon in Jan. Since I see some of you have gotten your Diary, that might already be in there, but I wasn't sure.

I dont think I have gotten mine yet. Hopefully soon!

Have a good one!

Laura

[withdisneyspirit]

GAIL: Warm liquids will help the cough; cold drinks will aggravate it. I have even been known to drink hot water when away from home to calm my esophagus. :)

ROZZIE: I agree with Scott!!!! I realize Dad/nono has good advice but that is a lot close for comfort!! :eek: My sister's husband bought her a taser and she had a background check and training on how to effectively protect herself with it. :scared07: Pepper spray is a good option also. Please be safe!!!!!!!!!!!!

CARRIE: Awesome year for you! :yahoo: I was bowled over by your list of races...

NONO: I am glad the cops are stalking you :rotfl2:

LLLOVELL: Laura is in the house! :w00t: I, for one, would like to hear how you are :popcorn:

I am sleep deprived from my teen youth trip but still alive. I got a half hour worth of sleep on Thursday night. We slept on the floor at the Atlanta youth's church and the bus came and picked us up at 6am 5am my time) What kept me sleepless was two other sponsors that snored like freight trains all night long :blech:

I am glad I went and it was great to see all the spiritual growth taking place in these teens. We were kept supremely busy, however, and my free time was partly taken by over scheduling or running late. I did not run after all as I would not have had time to clean up and change etc... Instead, I did a brisk walk patrolling the grounds during what was left of the free time. I signed up for this duty knowing it was a good chance to get a workout.

Anyway, I plan a bit longer than usual run tomorrow to help make up for it :rolleyes:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Rozzie....too scary :scared07: be careful and no running alone!!!!!!!!!

Lisa....glad you had a good time and just look at all that CT you got over the weekend.

nono....so do the cops have your drink ready for you at the end of your run?

Grandkids kept me busy all day Sat. so I had my CT day, but I still haven't gotten out to run yet. :mad:

[Rozzie]

Training question:

Who does tempo runs, and what do you do for your Tempo run?

I did my first ever one today, and don't know if I did it right. Just went at a faster pace for a shorter distance. Tried to do 3 miles under 30 minutes. I did it, but it was hard up the hills. I haven't run that fast since that 5K last September. Anyhoo, I don't even know if I did it right LOL. Just seems like every book I pick up it talks about the importance of doing them.

Lisa, you are a braver soul than me. Just think--- you are going to have some great karma for sacrificing your time for such a good purpose. :thumbsup2:

Laura/Carrie-- thanks for updating us on the course. :) Not that I know the Jan 1/2 route, but it sounds fun. So basically we hit every park except MK, right?

Gail, how ya' feeling?

Nono, you in running tights yet? I was giggling to myself just the other day thinking of your sweatshirt for your 1/2.

[mickeyndvcfan]

I'm feeling ok except for the coughing. It's not as often as it has been but it's still so annoying. I've got to get out and either run or go to Curves tomorrow cause this is making me :silly: not doing anything. I was up and moving most of the day on Sat. with the kids so I did get in some kind of workout. Of course the weather hasn't been the greatest around here lately either. Lots of rain, it finally cleared up today.

[nono]

Cops -- no -- no mixologists locally -- though my buddy on the next island over would likely have one waiting for me...:biggulp:

Oh, and I forgot the number 1 reason why nothing goes wrong when I'm running -- 'cause I am always wearing my RoadID, complete with my Blue Cross/Blue Shield info right on it. It's like insurance -- have it, you'll never need it. The day you don't...... So, wear you ROADID! No excuses:
http://roadid.com/Common/default.aspx

Been doing my 7 mi every-other-day thing. So far, so good. No tempos right now Rozzie. Best advice I got from old farts in the masters running forums is to make sure you do a mi warm up and mi cool down (in other words, if it is a 4 mi run, only mi 2 & 3 would be at tempo pace). My tempo paces aren't usually more than 15-25 sec/mi faster than my averages for the last couple weeks. Does that make sense?

[Rozzie]

Been doing my 7 mi every-other-day thing. So far, so good. No tempos right now Rozzie. Best advice I got from old farts in the masters running forums is to make sure you do a mi warm up and mi cool down (in other words, if it is a 4 mi run, only mi 2 & 3 would be at tempo pace). My tempo paces aren't usually more than 15-25 sec/mi faster than my averages for the last couple weeks. Does that make sense?

Oops, we did a some warm up walking and cool down walking, but not warm up running, etc. Thanks for the advice! :)

Scott and I both agreed that we need RoadID's. We got 2 anklets picked out, but you gave me a excellent idea to have my insurance information on there too. :thumbsup2: What color did you get? I was thinking of either blue or hot pink to stand out some. I guess they would see it either way.

[lllovell]

Laura/Carrie-- thanks for updating us on the course. :) Not that I know the Jan 1/2 route, but it sounds fun. So basically we hit every park except MK, right?


Actually - the only park I made it through last year in the first 7 miles was MK.

I had a picture of the course unless they have changed it.

[Rozzie]

Actually - the only park I made it through last year in the first 7 miles was MK.

I had a picture of the course unless they have changed it.

So we are going through MK then? Wow, they must have changed their minds...I was thinking this is the race where we were castle deprived. :D

[mickeyndvcfan]

So we are going through MK then? Wow, they must have changed their minds...I was thinking this is the race where we were castle deprived. :D


Carrie said before that she figured that they would use the Marathon route starting from the RP track and go to AK, DHS and Epcot from there.

[withdisneyspirit]

Laura is referring to the Jan Disney Half Marathon. I know that the Princess is a different route.

I hve just begun doing tempo runs also, Rozzie. Today, I did a walk run that was somewhat tempo like. I did a run 3 min walk 2 min. The running minutes were about 30 seconds faster than my usual pace

[nono]

We got 2 anklets picked out, but you gave me a excellent idea to have my insurance information on there too. :thumbsup2: What color did you get? I was thinking of either blue or hot pink to stand out some. I guess they would see it either way.

We have anklets too -- did the black and silver reflective...

Also the RoadID site sells this strips of reflective tape - I can vouch for its effectiveness through many washings...
http://roadid.com/common/learnmore_ff_stickpak.aspx?GoBackURL=http%3a%2f%2f roadid.com%2fcommon%2ffirefly.aspx

I also have the wristband for reflectiveness and Renee has a lighted collar that I got at PetSmart.

[lllovell]

Hey runners!

Carrie asked me to pass along that the course for the Princess is the same as the course for the 1/2 marathon in Jan. Since I see some of you have gotten your Diary, that might already be in there, but I wasn't sure.

I dont think I have gotten mine yet. Hopefully soon!

Have a good one!

Laura


Not to be tacky and quote myself lol but Carrie found out over the weekend that the Princess route is the same as the 1/2. Starts at the MK (but 5 miles or so around on the roads first) and then in the park and through the Castle. So - they must have changed their minds if it was going to be a different route than the 1/2.

Going under the bridge and back up at the Contemporary about killed me!

I am doing ok ladies. Gaining weight instead of losing. Not exercising enough to get ready for this race, so the Princess will have to be mine to finish. Work is just awful. Quite stressful to be honest and I think I have been stress eating without even thinking about it. Finding time to exercise hasn't been my thing.

I am feeling blah today - so down on myself but the reality is that I haven't made time to train properly so who knows what the 1/2 will bring. I am very excited to see so many of you doing so well!

Laura

[withdisneyspirit]

So, if it is the same, then it starts in the parking lot at Epcot and only goes through MK and Epcot - not the other parks. I was actually looking forward to a different route of some sort :rolleyes:

[withdisneyspirit]

Why are they not doing the route they still describe on the Princess website? :confused24:

[Rozzie]

Laura, I am sorry work is so stressful. I am a stress eater too, so I can relate. Just think of the Jan 1/2 as a practice "run" for the Porncess. I hope things get better for you, I worry about all the stress you have on your plate. :hug1:

Well running through the castle sounds great to me. I am confused on the route, but I know that the majority of people will be ahead of me--I'll just follow them. :p

[nono]

You know what? If this is true about the route changing, I may just unregister myself. It's not what I agreed to, and for a buck twenty, I don't think I need to subject myself to that again. It was a lousy course.

[lllovell]

From what Carrie said, she found it out at the Expo at her race last weekend. I supposed the people there could be wrong. Time will tell.

LLL

[nono]

Seriously, I printed out a copy of the web page tonight that states the fee and what you get. My husband would have my head if I am willing to throw our money away on something we know is bad. Maybe I'll be :driver: around FL to get to a different race that weekend.

[Rozzie]

I might PM Robert over at DisneyRunning and see if he has heard anything. He has a insider source and usually gets the scoop pretty quick.

Nono, do you think they will let you get your money back? I can see why you are upset, it's almost false advertisement-- well it would be false advertisement, wouldn't it? Hope for you and Lisa's sake it's a different course.

[nono]

Can you tell how much I hated the 1/2 marathon before? :rotfl2:

[PoohsPal]

According to the rep at teh expo, they changed it because there were so many complaints about a princess race that did not go through teh castle.

nono - I thought your biggest problem with it was crowding. My guess is that this race will not be nearly as big as January, so it should not be as bad.

Personally, I hate the last half of teh marathon course adn am very grateful that it's changing. Now, part of that hate is because I've already run 13 when I hit it, but that stretch to AK is long an bo-ring! The paths in AK hurt my feet. The stretch to MGM has 2 big hills disguised as over passes. Nothing to really get me excited. JMO.

[withdisneyspirit]

According to the rep at teh expo, they changed it because there were so many complaints about a princess race that did not go through teh castle.

nono - I thought your biggest problem with it was crowding. My guess is that this race will not be nearly as big as January, so it should not be as bad.

Personally, I hate the last half of teh marathon course adn am very grateful that it's changing. Now, part of that hate is because I've already run 13 when I hit it, but that stretch to AK is long an bo-ring! The paths in AK hurt my feet. The stretch to MGM has 2 big hills disguised as over passes. Nothing to really get me excited. JMO.

I can see where people would be annoyed at not getting to run through the castle on a princess run - it makes sense to me!!

I really don't mind too much though. I am not going to let it get in the way of this trip with all of you :goodvibes: Go TEAM PEACOCK! :cheerleader:

[PoohsPal]

I did think that starting at teh race track would be kind of cool, but I am NOT a princess. I did not see that enticing princesses at all.

The woman at the expo was really nice. I did make sure totell her that I was still very sad about the Minnie and very much NOT a Princess. :tongue:

[nono]

nono - I thought your biggest problem with it was crowding. My guess is that this race will not be nearly as big as January, so it should not be as bad.



Even with less entrants, it'll be way crowded because of the start. Also, a good portion of the race will still be crowded and canted to the right hand side, as there were lots of stretches only in the right hand lane -- not two lanes. That's asking for ITBS.

I'm out. Not interested in doing that again. To do so would mean that all my criticism was just gripes. It wasn't. Running through the Castle? We need to have a lousy course for that 10 sec????? I don't get it.

I'll start inquiring about my refund now, as the only reason I was giving Disney another chance was because of the promise of starting at the Speedway with the hope of loosening things up quickly. That's the only reason I was willing to waste my husband's money on something like this.

Sorry Peacocks. :(

[Ultramm]

There are only 10,000 people allowed to run Princess vs 20,000 for Jan 1/2.

I just heard from my Disney source that Disney allowed them to run through MK. Disney doesn't like events at MK and that's why it wasn't set that way before. The course is still being finalized so I will know more today or tomorrow.

Personally, I would want to do the same course less than 2 months later so hope they change it somehow.

[withdisneyspirit]

Yes, it is kinda "not so smart" to do the exact same course two months later when they have to know that many of those runners will be the same for both events :confused24: Maybe, they will actually come up with a new race course. I have my fingers and toes crossed!!!!!:listen:

[nono]

I took a look at mapmyrun, and it would be fairly easy for anyone with a little imagination to plot a variety of courses that wouldn't be the same old same old.

I did one that started at Richard Petty, went through the MK, down the back road to AK and the finished up nicely in 13.1 at The Studios. Surely others closer to the race would be even better equipped to plot routes.

[withdisneyspirit]

I took a look at mapmyrun, and it would be fairly easy for anyone with a little imagination to plot a variety of courses that wouldn't be the same old same old.

I did one that started at Richard Petty, went through the MK, down the back road to AK and the finished up nicely in 13.1 at The Studios. Surely others closer to the race would be even better equipped to plot routes.

Hey nono, send it to them - maybe they really need help and they're not putting a real imagineer on the job!!! :D

[Rozzie]

Hey Robert!!!!! Thanks for popping in and giving a official/unofficial heads up. It's always nice to see you. :)

I've been thinking of this all day, and it would be strange to change the course so much so close to the race. I wonder if anyone else is having second thoughts about the race. Nono I really am sorry you won't be running. I do understand though, you said from the getgo that it was the only reason you would do the race, if it was a different course. :(

[Ultramm]

Thanks Robyn!

My source said they were also concerned about darkness. That's why the pushed the start back. They were thinking they would have to put lots of lights on Bear Island Dr too. Will see as they still might change the course.

BTW, I WOULD NOT(error in previous post) do the same course less than 2 months away. Glad I didn't plan to do the race. Maybe they will do a Pirates half marathon on the same course in October;-)

[nono]

Hmmm--sunrise is about 6:45 a.m. that day...and as one who runs often before sunrise, it's light out before the sun actually "rises". I checked this site for the data points.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=867&month=3&year=2009&obj=sun&afl=-11&day=1

A lap at the racetrack would take a bit of time -- seems like not too much darkness to really deal with...at most 10 min worth for the front of the packers.

Look - it's their race, they can do what they want. However, I bought with the premise it was one thing, so I'm hoping they realize that it isn't what I bought and give me a "no hassle" return. It would be great for them to come up with something that isn't just a repeat course. If they do, I'm willing to give it a chance. Otherwise, it'll just be the kids doing their races, I guess. Or maybe we'll change our dates all together. :unsure:

[mickeyndvcfan]

nono.....sunrise is actually at 7:43 on race day....not that it should make any difference with the race route.

It's all new to me so I'll go where ever, but it would be nice to do the original one that they were going to do.

[nono]

nono.....sunrise is actually at 7:43 on race day....not that it should make any difference with the race route.


You know, I didn't even see that -- I keep thinking the race is Sat. the 7th - I looked a the whole week -- stopped at 7 never saw 8th! If I did, I might still not have put it together :rolleye11: as someone who was almost out the door running when we fell back at 5:08 a.m. On vacation.... :headbrickwall:

Now I have to go back and look at how I laid out that week in my training plan. I bet I have the race on the 7th.

[withdisneyspirit]

Well, I went to the website and expressed my views about running the identical course as Jan 10. I also commented that they are still selling this race as a "new course" and that I wanted them to hold to that and do a new course!

[withdisneyspirit]

Thanks Robyn!

My source said they were also concerned about darkness. That's why the pushed the start back. They were thinking they would have to put lots of lights on Bear Island Dr too. Will see as they still might change the course.

BTW, I WOULD NOT(error in previous post) do the same course less than 2 months away. Glad I didn't plan to do the race. Maybe they will do a Pirates half marathon on the same course in October;-)

How is your recovery, Robert! I hope you are doing well :goodvibes:

[Ultramm]

I agree that if they started the race as originally scheduled(like all there other long races), it would be dark at 6:00 am start. That's why moved to 6:30.

I agree that changing the course should warrant refund but I would bet they won't. I think you would have to read disclaimer signed.

[Rozzie]

Speaking of changing minds, rumor is the P&PP's are canceled also. Gailaroo guess we gotta make other plans to celebrate that night? :unsure:

This is all kinda weird. :confused24:

[nono]

Speaking of changing minds, rumor is the P&PP's are canceled also. Gailaroo guess we gotta make other plans to celebrate that night? :unsure:

This is all kinda weird. :confused24:


Now there's a logistical nightmare if it proves true. They've been collecting $$ along with registrations...

[nono]

So, I was talking to Mr Nono last night and he said not to change the dates, even though it isn't the best time for him work-wise to travel. (don't these Race Directors realize how much some of us have to negotiate out the $$ for their races and how much stress it causes?? :rotfl2:). His advice was to see how it all shakes out, but regardless, we can all go and have a good time. So, Gail and Rozzie, you'll have to add us to the party that night regardless of what happens. It just might be at the Suitcase at OKW.... :drunkard:

[PoohsPal]

Yay!!! I'm so glad the nonos will still be there!!! I didn't remember how bad it was fro your ITBS, nono. :( I have to be extra carefl on teh full course too where the slope is wrong for me. I can switch lanes, though, most of the time.

OMG, canceling teh P&PP??? You have got to be kidding. You know, from day 1, it did not seem liek they had thought this all teh way through. perhaps someone should send tehm a copy of Meet the RObinsons. :tongue:

[nono]

Well, I was thinking...if they do the exact same course as Jan., I'll just have to go cheer folks on as I can't risk the reinjury (and Mr Nono's only ITB problem came at the end of that 1/2, so even if I wanted to do so, he wouldn't let me).

But, I'm thinking Disney, and the people they hire, are a bit more imaginative than just doing the lazy thing and using the exact same course. So, I'm hopeful I will be able to participate.

I also thought about pacing Gail, but my G*D she almost killed me with 4 mi last month! :rotfl2:

[withdisneyspirit]

You can pace with me nono :goodvibes: I'll probably do it in 3 hours or so :p

[lllovell]

Or you can run with me....it is wide open once everyone zooms past. :tongue:

[nono]

Ladies, I guarantee you what you do is much harder than what I do. Hence, why I don't want to do it!

I'm telling you - walking 4 with Gail almost put me O-U-T. I could have run 7-10 mi and not felt that bad... I swear it's a dirty little secret that the elites try to keep to themselves: running faster is much easier.

The hard part is training to get faster. Esp. if your lungs aren't ready. I think that's been my big change this year...my lungs are really in shape now, and the body simply can follow.

[PoohsPal]

I know what nono's saying. It's ahrder to go for a longer time adn when your muscles are not used to walking or intervals, that is tough too.

Got a story to go with this from last night.

DH and I were on teh indoor track. After a bit, a guy starts running. The man is all muscle and blows by us like we were standing still. ALways makes my pride take a dive. Yes, I am faster than a few of you here, have finished 3 full marathons adn I still let that stuff get to me. :blush: Anyway, he stops and starts walking with his wife. As we pass he calls out, "Aren't you guys ever gonna' stop?" We were blown away. the man was 10x's faster than us, but impressed by our time out there. You know what? We were only doing a 40 min run. :eek: Basically, teh shortest distance we go.

So, you know what? All of you have done more than that and this Mr. Muscles would have been as impressed by all of you as I am. DOn't think it's easy, just because you're slow.

[withdisneyspirit]

I did realize this. Sadly, for me, my lung capacity is stronger than my body and joints are. I swear I could keep going and maybe go faster but everything begins to hurt. That 12 mile mark on my last LR really took its toll. I hope my 16 miler is better. I do believe I still have room to grow my fitness though: I just have to grow it in smaller increments :blush:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Ladies, I guarantee you what you do is much harder than what I do. Hence, why I don't want to do it!

I'm telling you - walking 4 with Gail almost put me O-U-T. I could have run 7-10 mi and not felt that bad... I swear it's a dirty little secret that the elites try to keep to themselves: running faster is much easier.

The hard part is training to get faster. Esp. if your lungs aren't ready. I think that's been my big change this year...my lungs are really in shape now, and the body simply can follow.


Sorry nono....should have walked my normal faster pace, but that still wouldn't have helped you. I'm just waiting for my lungs to be ready because my body has been fine so far. And now it is going to take a bit longer because of this coughing crap. I was going to try and get out today but I slept forever this morning. Well, it seemed like forever anyway. I sue do hate being sick.

[PoohsPal]

Gail - If you slept that late, your body needed it/ Hope you are doign ebtter soon!!!!

LIsa - Ugh, I hope that it was just a bad day for you adn your 16-miler is not as big of a struggle. Is it time to increse walking intervals?

[nono]

I did realize this. Sadly, for me, my lung capacity is stronger than my body and joints are. I swear I could keep going and maybe go faster but everything begins to hurt. That 12 mile mark on my last LR really took its toll. I hope my 16 miler is better. I do believe I still have room to grow my fitness though: I just have to grow it in smaller increments :blush:

I know where you are coming from. I think I'm at least 2 years out from building enough base to run a marathon, and even then, I don't know that I'll do it. I'm targeting an 18 mile race next Sept/Oct and see how that goes. It might be too soon for me to try it, and I'm mentally willing to drop it from my calendar if the training is going poorly.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Speaking of changing minds, rumor is the P&PP's are canceled also. Gailaroo guess we gotta make other plans to celebrate that night? :unsure:

This is all kinda weird. :confused24:


I can't see that it would be a good idea for them to cancel the party because of all the money they have collected already from the registrations for the race. It would be a lot of aggrevaton on their part to have to refund the money and a lot of unhappy people who were looking forward to the party.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Here is the new official Disney site for the weekend. They no longer have anything about the race course on here, but they do mention tickets for a post-race Party. They are not calling it the P&PP anymore. So looks like they are having a party still but we just don't know the theme.


Disney's Princess Half Marathon presented by Lady Foot Locker

Sunday, March 8, 2009

Mirror, mirror, reveal the One. Show me the Princess who has the strength to run. Join your fellow princesses in a royal quest that will take you through 13.1 miles of the Walt Disney World® Resort.

Each participant's registration in Disney's Princess Half Marathon will receive:



Race Registration </I>
Commemorative Champion Ladies Tech Shirt
Goody Bag
Event Weekend Transportation for Select Resort Hotels only
Personalized Bib
On Course Refreshments
On Course Disney Entertainment
Post-Race Refreshments
Family Reunion Area with live entertainment and characters
Half Marathon Finishers receive a very special Princess Tiara medal
Opportunity to purchase Party tickets for runners, family & friends for a magical post-race party sure to excite!


**Please note: Daylight Savings Time will occur on Sunday, March 8, 2009. Clocks will need to be set ahead one hour when going to

[mickeyndvcfan]

here's the link

http://disneyworldsports.disney.go.com/dwws/en_US/proSports/proSportDetail/detail?name=DisneyPrincessHalfMarathonFeatureDetai lPage

[withdisneyspirit]

Very interesting ... at least they haven't stated the same ol', same ol' course...fingers crossed for a new course :D

[PoohsPal]

Now, I've never run teh same ol' course. ;) I was kind of lookign forward to it. However, soemthing totally different would be really nice adn I want nono to be able to run too!!! Then again, I covered most of it for teh full.

[withdisneyspirit]

My point exactly because you and I will both see that route as part of our full in January. I can't believe they would make it the same. Laura will be doing it twice too, right?

[lllovell]

Yep. I would be doing it twice.

LLL

[kathleena]

I just wanted to wish everyone the best of luck in your 1/2 Marathons! Reading a bit on this thread made me wish I could be there to cheer you on. And it's also making me feel very jealous!

I'd been avoiding looking at the Marathon threads because I knew I couldn't possibly participate after my AT surgery last March. :silly: Heh, 7 months post and I can walk 2 miles at 3.3mph, but still struggling with strength in my leg so can't do much more than that yet. I am on the home stretch though and my schedule calls for getting up to 4 miles at a time by the end of Feb and then holding there for 4-6 months or so to really condition my foot, ankle and leg back to regular walking. I have a 10k in my plans for August '09.

IF and only IF that is successful, I might consider training again for a 1/2, maybe the 2010 Princess (:ermm: er did I spell that right?) is in my future. :woohoodance:


At least I'm getting to the point where I'm feeling the surgery was the right thing to do! I can actually go 15 minutes on the elliptical now without pain! I haven't been able to do that since Feb '07! :yahoo:

And I'm including this guy just because he's cute! :broc:

[lllovell]

Hey there Nancy!!! Good to see you.

It sounds like your recovery is going well, even if it feels very slow at times. I am glad to hear that! Continued success on that front and you will be outpacing me in no time :)

Hope all other things are going well for you and yours.

Laura

[Ultramm]

I haven't heard back from my contacts(official and unofficial) at Disney. Add that with pretty new website with course info remove and "just check back later" Disney line, I don't think they know what they are going to do.

[PoohsPal]

Good to see you Nancy! FYI - originally, porncess started asone of my infamous typos. Nono had a great definition of it standing for teh overuse of teh princess theme, though, and it stuck. :tongue:

Way to go on sticking with teh exercise, even though it's been a long slow road. :cheerleader: Feel free to stick around and let us know your progress.

[Rozzie]

Thanks Robert for the update. Hopefully we will hear something soon!

Hey Nancy! Keep on the steady path to recovery, and I bet you will be stronger than ever!! :goodvibes:

Speaking of recovery, my hamstrings been hurting this week, so I've taken it slow. Lots of walking, stretching, and they are feeling better. Supposed to be 29 for our LR tomorrow morning, right now I am counting 3 layers that I'll be wearing. We don't like it this cold down here! :blech: Going to to run most of it, I'll back off If I start feeling them again.

[kathleena]

Good to see you Nancy! FYI - originally, porncess started asone of my infamous typos. Nono had a great definition of it standing for teh overuse of teh princess theme, though, and it stuck. :tongue:

Way to go on sticking with teh exercise, even though it's been a long slow road. :cheerleader: Feel free to stick around and let us know your progress.

LOL I should have known, the typos! ***hits head with hand***


Hey Nancy! Keep on the steady path to recovery, and I bet you will be stronger than ever!! :goodvibes:

You know I'm really hoping that because it turns out this "injury" was just brewing for years. All the subtle signs that I just brushed off before are now gone.

I'm going to let you guys inspire me as I head into the next phase and remind me of why I went thru this! :)

Thanks for the warm welcome back!

[nono]

kathleena,

You hang in there. You'll heal!!!


Out for 7 1/4 mi this morning to get rid of the sickness that the rest of the family has infected me with...those rats! Felt like dreck mi 1-2, felt great the rest of the way. Left most of my cold in a trashcan at about mi 3. Sorry, but I'll never be one of those runners who can do a snotrocket :eek: -- I dutifully packed a bunch of tissues and used 'em all and seriously, left my cold in North Wildwood. :woohoodance:

Hoping all are having good runs this weekend! (p.s., even if you only run 1/1000 of your outing, I consider you a runner.)

[Rozzie]

I did 7 miles yesterday in the bitter cold, or what's cold as crap to me. ;) I think the temp at the start was hovering around 32. My hammies did great though, did some extra stretching at the end and no soreness today. I guess I learned I may just no be up yet to back to back runs. Drats, as I really liked doing the schedule that way. Oh well, it could always be worse. :)

In other news, went to a kick butt running store yesterday (Pensacola Laura) and scored some shoes on sale. Oh yeah, and some capri's too. They felt great on and they were 50% off, thought they would be good for when it's between skirt and tights weather. The staff were awesome and so knowledgeable, and they had every running gadget, supplement, outfits, insoles known to man. PLUS they had their own cardiac lab in back of store. A cardiologist on staff perfomrs stress tests, Echo's, and several other important performance tests. I didn't want to leave this place, it was better than a theme park, LOL! :D So worth the hour drive.

[nono]

I did 7 miles yesterday in the bitter cold, or what's cold as crap to me. ;) I think the temp at the start was hovering around 32. My hammies did great though, did some extra stretching at the end and no soreness today.


Now you are running as much as I do in a day, and in lousy conditions too. Way to go runner!!!!! I think we have our ACE runner, here people! :cheerleader:

[Rozzie]

Now you are running as much as I do in a day, and in lousy conditions too. Way to go runner!!!!! I think we have our ACE runner, here people! :cheerleader:

LMAO! No Ace runner here, that's for sure. :silly:

[mickeyndvcfan]

LMAO! No Ace runner here, that's for sure. :silly:


Oh, you're tooo modest!!!!!!

glad your hamstrings are feeling ok now. Can't have you pulling up lame a week before training starts.

[nono]

LMAO! No Ace runner here, that's for sure. :silly:

We'll see. By next year, you'll be kicking my arse timewise. At least you'll never be in the same agegroup as me! :D ( I think )

[withdisneyspirit]

Way to go, Rozzie, on the seven mile run :cheerleader: Nono's right, I believe you will go very far with this :goodvibes:

Well, I did my 16 miler on Friday and dang it was COLD :eek: It was not 32 though! It was low 40's and very windy. Rick only lasted about 5.5 miles and he hopped into the car to listen to music, LOL! By the end, I thought I was close to frostbite because my hands (even in gloves) were so cold! In comparison to my 14 miler, I think I did okay. This time I did a 3/2 - more walk than run. It worked out to about the same speed as the 14 mile run. I was very achy though, by the 13.5 mile mark and walked most of the last couple miles again. It is still hard to conceptualize another ten miles added on but I am very determined to see it through :thumbsup2:

I am still working on nutrition too. This time, I was starving by the end of the run. I had chopped up a traditional clif bar into bite size pieces and it was not enough. Not sure if it was the cold or what. Also, still suffering from foot cramps a lot. I ate banana as part of my brekkie that day and another as a pre run snack about an hour or so before the run. I also drank water regularly??

[nono]

Lisa,

I find I need way more water than the average Joe. Probably approaching the hyponatremia levels. :unsure: Really. But unless my urine is very close to clear, I find that I get all sorts of myofascial problems: ITB & PF pain, to name two. That's why I supplement with clif shot bloks and coconut water (besides the fudge :thumbsup2:) when I'm doing runs longer than 7 miles. I find if I start drinking at mile 3, my body can process and use the liquids without filling up my bladder enough to matter. So basically rely on the supplements during the run to keep me from possibly keeling over. So far, so good. :D

Good luck tinkering with the fueling-on-the-run piece of the puzzle. You figure out what works best for you!

[PoohsPal]

LIsa - WOo hooo!!!!! :cheerleader::cheerleader: I know this sounds dumb, but are your shoes too tight? That's what does it fo rme. I do mine so loose that you'd think my heels would blister, but they don't and it works well for me. :confused24:

Nancy - :tink: SOunds liek a very good sign. Let's keep hoping that you will be much stronger!!!

Rozzie - You are an ACE! I have been sooooo impressed with your times! You are gonna' kick porncess hiney! :rotfl2:(yeah, not very DIsney of me. :tongue:) Be good to those hammys, tehy can cause a world of hurt.

nono - Hope you're feeling much better!!! lol. I can't do teh snot rocket. Scott put grommets in soem wash cloths, so I sub tehm out for a sponge int eh winter and have a snot rag on my arm. Tacky, but I go through Kleenex like crazy and this is much easier fro me.


Saturday was teh dreaded 16-miler. Dreaded because we had done 13 pretty hard on SUnday, my hammy was acting up, Scott's achillies was acting up a bit, it was 24 degrees (coldest run this year), it was a Yak Trax run and those can be hard on teh feet, and we had not done a 14-miler due to SAT, so teh jump to 16 seemed huge. Yes, we had plenty of excuses to not pull this one off. There were a few times I told myself perhaps I'd walk. (Maybe on the pair of bridges where it was snow over rutted ice) Then, I told myself that if I walkd then, it'd be easier to walk durign the marathon. I really want to PR or at least get close to our first marathon this year. I had told myself all week that I would not push if I risked hurting anything. Well, everything pretty much hurt equally, so, per my own test of when to push and when not to, it was safe to keeep going. Our pace was far from stellar, but we did it and were fairly consistent, except for teh pair of bnidges. My hammy did MUCH better than expected too! I am so stinking proud of us. That was a huge milestone.

Where's Gail?

Laura - Things gettign any better in teh training dept for you?