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MatterhornMiss

10-22-2010, 01:47 PM

It has been a tough two weeks of training. It was really getting to me last week. I feel I have been doing this for a long time (since the end of June) and the race still can't get here fast enough. I felt my life was work, running, and attempts at sleeping. Plus, ever since my tough 16 miler 2 wks ago, the mental strain has really been wearing me down. People tell me how hard it is, but of course I thought somehow I would be different, because my ego took a beating the last 1.5 miles of that run. Between that and continued nagging weakness from my ITB all the way down the outside of my leg to my ankle/foot and a very irritated Achilles, I had a hard week last week. Last Saturday was supposed to be a 12 mile run but I stopped after 1 minute (yes--one minute, not even one mile) because my ITB was screaming. I made it back to my apartment in this sort of shocked disbelief, wondering if I could make it 6 more weeks. I just sat crying in my ice bath.

So I've worked to change my plan of attack and mental state since then. I know now there is a very good chance I may not be able to run 26.2 miles. But that is not my goal. Like Rocky (and watching the movie also helped me change my perception of success), my goal is just to go the distance. If I have to run/walk or walk/run it, then that's okay. I did that for the Princess and I'm not one bit disappointed in my race performance.

I took 3 days off from running after that horrible Saturday. I'm glad I did--I had a chance to remember where my strength really comes from. I also went back to the beginning of this thread and got lots of encouragement reading about all the Peacocks (the original gang's) foray into running (Lisa training for her first full, Roz just starting to run--which, if anybody thinks they'll never make it, you should go back to the beginning and read all of Roz's doubts that she could ever run 4 miles, much less even think about doing a marathon--Gail training for her first half, and so on and so on) and knowing where they are today.

I ran 4 miles Wednesday and 5 yesterday (ran the whole things). My ITB is not happy today, but I think a big part of that was having to sit with my knee bent on the plane down here to WDW (which is something I realized it doesn't like when I flew to CA for the DLR half, but since it's what I have to do for the marathon, I'm glad I know this beforehand). I'm sitting at the Dolphin icing it (I really should've spent the extra money for the Yacht Club, but I'll know next time). I'm planning on heading out early in the morning for an 18 miler. I am preparing myself to walk/run (or run/walk it depending on how I feel), but I'm not used to doing that, since I haven't done run/walk intervals since my first 6 or 7 weeks of starting to run.

So, that's me 5 miles out from my first marathon. I've cried a lot, prayed a lot, iced a lot, and listened to the Rocky soundtrack ;) a lot these last 2 weeks, but I think it is going to make the journey that much more special. It's going to be tough anyway, knowing that I'm running by myself and no one will be there at the finish for me. I'm hoping I can find someone during the race, like Lisa did during her first full.

Sorry to hear about your calf, Jen. I think the foam roller helps the tightness in my Achilles, but I don't think it did anything for my ITB. And DG, sounds like you're definitely in for Akron! That's great--I think I might have some family from Akron and maybe even my sister running, too! Good work to everyone who has run races recently!

Rozzie

10-22-2010, 02:36 PM

MM, Oh SISTER! Your post made me get tears in my eyes. I see me in you. I remember the doubts, the injuries...I remember tackling my first Full and watching Rocky. (it's shocking how similar we are) You see that was my motto too, Just go the distance. That's all you have to do. You don't have to BQ, you don't have to hit 4 hours, you don't have to run the whole way, you can walk whenever you feel like it. Heck my first marathon I would stop and do yoga poses on side of road. All you have to do is FINISH. That's it! And by golly you will finish. I will get in touch with my friends from ROTE and pass on your information. I don't think I have your email, PM me and I can write him a message. I think he is out of town this weekend for a race, but I am sure he will get in touch with you and look out for you.

I am glad you went back and read from page 1. I have said so many times on here that we all started at the same place, and when I talk about where I started from I don't know if people quite get what I am saying. Yes I literally felt like I would never make it to 4 miles. To this day, I always say nothing has felt like that day I finally ran nonstop 4 miles. It was a bigger accomplishment than my first 10 miler, first 20 miler, so on. I think it's very good to look back on how far we have come when we don't think we can go further. We all have doubts, fears, insecurities. Whoever says they don't is lying to themselves and everyone else. However Team Peacock is all about squashing those doubts like bugs and believing in each other, and most importantly believing in ourselves.

Have fun down there, I will be thinking of you for your 18 miler. Remember its a gift to train at the happiest place on earth. I am jealous!! I will trade my crappy blando route Sunday for your route! :goodvibes: Go get' em Tiger!!!!!!!!!!

cloudnut220

10-22-2010, 03:26 PM

MM-I'm sending positive thoughts and energy your way! I know you can do this! The journey can be the hardest part! :hug1:

nono

10-22-2010, 04:52 PM

We all have doubts, fears, insecurities. Whoever says they don't is lying to themselves and everyone else.

Let's call the out for each of us:

Doubt: Does the training really work?

Fear: If I go out running will that hurt me? If I don't go out running, will that hurt me more in the long run???

Insecurities: Nope. Not in running. :p (This was only about running, right?)

MM -- you sound like you are just about in the perfect taper right now. Be ready to do great things with your race! You may be surprised! (But I won't be!!! Whatever your result, it'll be pretty spectacular to me! :thumbsup2:)

cloudnut220

10-22-2010, 08:01 PM

So I think I managed to injure myself in a bizzaro way today. We're in DE painting the beach house and I was doing trim down around the baseboard. Kneeled down, and hit an air return with my knee, which caused me to twist and tweak the calf. Now seriously sore. Going to try rolling it out, but I'm a bit worried about the 7 miler tomorrow. If it hurts I might push it to Sunday--especially since we only primed today and we have a solid 8-10 hours of painting ahead of us tomorrow...

Tried to convince everyone else that the primer looked "great" on the walls so we could relax tomorrow, but I don't think anyone is buying it...;)

cyl-e

10-23-2010, 09:05 AM

MM - hang in there. You can do it. Just in following this thread for the length of time that I have, you've always sounded determined, optimistic, positive. Those traits will see you through.

Finishing is the biggest triumph. I've only run one marathon (many years ago) and it was by no means fast. But we finished and that's a big deal. I walked at every water stop, took pictures with the characters, and slogged through the really tough part (which for me was around mile 16) where I just kept moving one foot in front of the other.

I can't wait to congratulate you on your success. What you've done already is monumental. I'm sure when you started you could not have imagined running 16 miles. There are a lot of people who even think of a 3 mile run as out of reach. When you compare yourself to runners, you may not feel "elite" but compared to the broader population - you absolutely are.

MatterhornMiss

10-23-2010, 10:02 AM

nono, I wish I were in a taper already! (I've been counting down for the past month.) I still have one more loooong LR in 2 wks--my 20 miler. BTW, I am amazed at your warm-fuzzy post! Where is the girlie-boy, sissy pants, butt-kicking? ;) I do appreciate your encouragement.

I appreciate everyone's encouragement. I started crying (in the middle of Sonny Eclipse's show at the Starlight Cafe ;) ) reading your post Roz. And nono, my fear definitely is "If I go out and run will I get injured to where I can never run again?"

It seemed like just about everything that could've gone wrong this morning did. I over slept my alarm, my powerade had leaked in the fridge, my oatmeal wouldn't cook, my hair was in knots for some reason so that I had problems braiding it, I had trouble making my way out of the hotel, oh, and female problems (shhhh!), when I did finally make it out, I had to turn right back around and head back because I decided I needed my knee braces after all--anyway, all of this equated to me getting started 2 hours later than I had planned. Still, once I started it went pretty well. My plan was to do the 3 min walk/2 min run plan from MfM, but after a couple of intervals I was feeling pretty good so I just ran. (BTW I finally got an ironman watch and I love the interval timer setting! Still no Garmin and I don't forsee myself getting one soon.) I did still do some of the 3 min walking intervals, but I found I ran more than I anticipated, including the last mile. I ended up doing 18.65 miles (I had to change my route midway through since traffic started picking up and there is no sidewalk in certain parts of Epcot Resorts Blvd between the BC and BWI) in just under 4 hours, for an average pace of 12:30. Pretty good! I never felt the overwhelming exhaustion I did during my 16 miler (though, believe me, I am very sore right now), and I think my attitude, being less in the direct sun, and most importantly BEING ADEQUATELY HYDRATED FROM THE DAY BEFORE (I am still amazed when I realize what a difference that makes for me). Anyway, I feel pretty good about it. We'll see how I'm feeling by the end of the day and tomorrow ;)

Off to Epcot for :cheers: :shots: :drunkard:. I refrained yesterday, knowing I couldn't be dehydrated this morning. That was my main motivation for not putting the run off until tomorrow when I had the bad pre-run experience--I wanted to make sure I could start drinking today!

nono

10-23-2010, 12:19 PM

withdisneyspirit

10-23-2010, 06:05 PM

If I got misty eyed (not admitting anything :grin:), it was MM's original post about early Peacock thread times. How wonderful and it will be good for me to go back and relive when I need motivation. I am so thrilled to hear of your successful 18 miler at Disney, no less, MM! I am so happy for you!! :rocker:

So sorry to hear of your injury, cloudnut! Smart move to delay your 7 miler until some healing is in place! :hug1:

Thankfully, Rick and I were able to get our 12 miler done today with no injuries. Rick had stressed his ankle running out on the grass at the disney Wine & Dine plus his ankles ached period so we got him some new shoes which he ran in today with perfect comfort. :yahoo: I am STILL in my flare after taking the steroids but I was able to get through the run with a bare minimum of meds. So, all in all, a great run and I feel really well now too. :goodvibes:

We missed our ten miler altogether last week and it is so true that it can make one fear that catching up will be too difficult. We are so grateful to be back on track again!

Mr. Roz

10-23-2010, 06:35 PM

We went out for a local 8k this morning as part of a time trial. I was suffering from a little strep/cold or something. We discussed not going but I knew I was going to run that day any way, why not race.

I had two goals, both very high. Plan A was go out at 5k pace and hold it down for the next four miles and finish 33:55. Plan b was to go out at 5k pace for the first mile and see where I was and hold on to 7 min pace if I could while not coughing up a lung or anything else and finish 34:50

Weather was in the high 50's to start, beautiful day. Felt kinda queezy before the start. Told Robyn "I aint feeling it today" Mistake #1, My mind wasn't right.
There were a few familiar faces around so I knew who I could pace if needed.
Gun sounded and we hit it . First mile was a little tuff but hit it at 6:43, Saw this local Kenyan Kid who runs my pace(He's 9 years old). I paced off him the 2nd mile, hit mile 2 at 7:23. I figured he was having a bad day so I picked it up. At mile 3 I got passed by this guy in his 50's. He was built like drill instructor and looked like he would rip my face off if I tried to pass him. I tried anyway but never could catch him. I locked on to this other runner who was about a quarter mile ahead of me. I picked it up and hit mile 4 at 7:09. I closed the gap on him as much as I could. He must have heard me weezing and looked back and I was about 3 yards behind him. We both kicked it at the same time. My last mile time 6:35, but He ended up beating me by 2 seconds. My finish time 34:52. I ended up 11th overall and PEACOCK ALERt....first in my age group.

All goals accomplished,Had fun,didn't puke PR'ed and had my first place for my age group ever.

Can't wait for the Roz to post her report.....

cloudnut220

10-24-2010, 05:49 AM

Congratulations Mr. Roz!! Awesome results--sounds like you were able to put your mind in the right place and run fast! :D :thumbsup2: Can't wait to hear from Roz!

I did do my 7 miler (7.5 really) yesterday. Legs were sore when I woke up but decided to go ahead. I was able to maintain my goal training pace the whole time and felt great! And the even better news? We wrapped up the house painting yesterday afternoon, and now today is free to relax! Nono-I was waiving over towards NJ last night...it was so clear on the beach we could see Cape May light.

withdisneyspirit

10-24-2010, 06:22 AM

WOOHOO MR. Roz!!!!!!!

We have a King Peacock this weekend! :yahoo: That is awesome, Scott! Pretty amazing to pull out such a run while sick! I am always surprised when I have a good run sick too. You should post a pic of you in your medal. Now, the only problem I can see in your day yesterday was how many people you might have wheezed on, lol!!! :w00t: :silly:

Very happy for you, CN that you got your 7 miler done without issue. You must have healed quickly :)

nono

10-24-2010, 09:09 AM

Well done Mr. Roz -- esp. not throwing up at the end of it all! You are tough as nails!!!!!

Great news on the age group award!

Rozzie

10-24-2010, 10:23 AM

Beth, great news about the run! I can't wait to crash at your place when we have a Rehoboth reunion. :D Seriously I am really enjoying reading about your progress. Very fun!

Jen, how are you feeling? Calf pain? Cold still there?

MM, congrats on the LR down in the happy place!! You are doing just what you need to do. You are going to be fine, and I got your PM. :-)

Well I usually don't do a long RR for these little local races so I will just (try) to give the highlights.

Got there and very first thing I saw this girl I ran with last race 2 weeks ago. She is very nice girl, 27, who ran CC for Union College. My goal is always to pace with her as we are about the same range. Also inside of me thinks it's way cool I can keep up with a former college runner. Who cares how long ago that they had been they were in college. It's always been a fantasy of mine to pretend I am on a college racing team. I love how she races. Anyhooo...she tells me off the bat she is still have ITB issues so she just wants to shoot for 7:30s. In the back of my mind I have warning bell ringing in my head...Robyn, you are only going for 7:45s today, to test my 10K pace for big 10K in 2 weeks. I tell her as much as we walk to the start. Then I saw her OTHER friend, remember the 58 year old that handed my arse to me at the 5K? Well she comes right up slaps me on the butt and says "lets pace together, I am going for 7:00-7:15s". FUDGE. :oweye: She has haunted my runs for the last 2 weeks. So I, being the responsible adult knowing my limits says "you're on". :blush: Side note folks: my 8K race pace is NOT 7:00s, 7:15s or anything of the sort.

So off we go, older lady, young girl, and me. Rematch. Then mile 1 we hit 7:15 suddenly older lady says "I'm out". Come to find out she has medical condition that either grants her a perfect race day or a DNF if it strikes. No in between. :( She pulled up and went back to car. I hated it and was really worried, but younger girl who is friends with her said it happens every now and then and she will be okay. Also hated I didn't have my rematch and wasted a the first mile trying to keep up with her, now knowing I was going to have a positive split race, as 7:15 was too fast.

So mile 3 comes around and we are cruising now at 7:30s when all of a sudden I realize these 2 guys join us. One of them reports they have been trying to catch us since the start and we minded if they paced off us. Younger girl is all "come join us" but in the back of my mind I smell trouble out of one of them. Sixth sense?...I personally don't mind people pacing off me, because lord knows I pace off quite a few folks, but it's courtesy to take turns pacing. As you know is almost 50% more effort to set the pace than maintain it. Me and younger girl were taking turns, but boys let us do all the work. Younger girl and I eyeballed each other with a knowing look. They wanted for us to do all the work and then pop out a kick at the end with all the energy they reserved. It's legal, it how you train to race, I know, but to almost admit to it and never offer to pace, well, blah. I don't know maybe I am oversensitive about all of that.

So mile 4 comes and sadly younger girl has to back off, ITB. Now it's whipper snapper boy and me. The whole time I am trying to breath and pick it up and he is totally feeling me out. "What do I do my 5K in" "what did you do last 10K in" trying to see if I had it in me for the kick. Several times I told him to go on he was doing great blah blah blah but he kept saying he was staying with me as I had done course before and wanted to wait for my kick. So I knew it. It was going to come down to a horse race the last .5, did I have it in me? Was I strong enough to take on a boy several years younger? OMG, this is going to be a scene out of Once a Runner. (not read it yet? Go out and buy it today...great read) I was nervous but decided I will never know unless I tried. I kicked and went out about a stride ahead. Then he comes up and goes out in front. Then I go out inches in front, then he does. I never ever ever ran so hard in all my life. Full sprint, arms moving, blurred vision and all I hear everyone at finish screaming about the match race coming down to the chute. 1 foot before finish he is a inch ahead, but somehow, someway in my pain I find a way to pull in front. Mr Roz was screaming and said the look on whipper snappers face was one of pain and shock. (wish I could have seen IT! Ha! how does one look when they are "out chicked"?)

I ended up with 37:06 (7:30 pace), 3rd overall female and a new 10K pace for the race in 2 weeks. Hopefully I can walk by then! :D

Sidenote: Whipper snapper was all good spirits, and we had a good butt slap for each other. This middle distance road racing is ADDICTIVE!!

Crap, that was more than highlights!! Ha you just have to excuse me, on a endorphin high this morning. :wave:

athenna

10-24-2010, 10:28 AM

Jen, how are you feeling? Calf pain? Cold still there?

Well first I want tio congratulate you and Mr Roz!:cheerleader: Well done, you two!

I still have my cold, still have a bit of calf pain, but I said the hell with it and went to the track anyway. I did not stick to the 3/2 intervals. Mostly I walked 3, ran 1 and 1/2..sometimes less sometimes more but I did do the entire 4 miles in 55:53:D But I don't feel great:(
I ddin't post any of that on FB like I usually do, because I promised a friend I would rest today and get better, don't want her know I ignored good advice:grin:

cloudnut220

10-24-2010, 12:57 PM

Roz--AWESOME!!

You guys are totally welcome here for the RB reunion!

Rozzie

10-24-2010, 01:37 PM

You guys are totally welcome here for the RB reunion!

I was kidding Beth! So no need to lose sleep over your beachhouse being raided by Peacocks. :D

Jen, if we always waited till' we felt 100% to go run, we would miss most of our runs! Kudos to you for trying to get out there and making the best of it. Yes our bodies need rest, but the only way to tell sometimes is to give it a try. I think you did great considering. :hug1:

Lisa, great job on your LR! Are ya'll just doing Mickey this year, no Goofy right? Glad to hear Rick found him some shoes that worked out well. That's half the battle of running, finding dern shoes that our bodies like! :blech:

athenna

10-25-2010, 06:39 AM

Jen, if we always waited till' we felt 100% to go run, we would miss most of our runs! Kudos to you for trying to get out there and making the best of it. Yes our bodies need rest, but the only way to tell sometimes is to give it a try. I think you did great considering. :hug1:

Thanks Roz:hug1: I did do great considering:D Even though I felt like crud after, lol. Today is either going to be a rest day or walk on treadmill. No attempt at running, that'll have to wait until tomorrow, I guess.

nono

10-25-2010, 10:47 AM

Nono-I was waiving over towards NJ last night...it was so clear on the beach we could see Cape May light.

Did you wave? :wave: :rotfl2:

Rozzie, super job on the race!!!!!!!!

Got 6 1/2 easy miles in yesterday and felt it the rest of the day! Today, was a bike ride on the boardwalk with Sir Wetshispants giving me an extra 30 lbs of ballast on the back. (He doesn't actually wet his pants, just frets that he will most of the time we are out riding....:scared07:) Hope everyone has a great week!

withdisneyspirit

10-25-2010, 05:06 PM

Wow, Rozzie!!!!!:yahoo:

Absolutely loved that RR!! Little races like THAT always need to be reported. :D

Yes, we are just doing the full marathon, lol! Sounds funny to be just doing a full :w00t: This is Rick's first and I sort of decided that I would do Goofy again if Rick ever wanted to do Goofy. We are traveling with my parents; this way we can scream for the Donald runners and Goofy people like you and Scott :rocker:

athenna

10-26-2010, 06:25 AM

Well, I'm totally frustrated. (What else is new, right? I promise I'm not a miserable person all the time). All I did was walk slow as heck on treadmill yesterday. Leg was hurting a bit the last few minutes. After my shower I finally tried the foam roller, umm, can I say OUCH!!!!! But I knew that would happen, so it's ok..Who knows if I even used the roller right to begin with, lol? So I wake up in pain this morning:confused: I was going to go to the track later and try my scheduled 3/2 for 45 minutes, but now I don't think I can.
I need to face the fact that I may not be able to do the OUC:boohoohoo:

cloudnut220

10-26-2010, 06:54 AM

Did you wave? :wave: :rotfl2:

Nono, I did wave. And then I sat down and had a pumpkin beer while enjoying the bonfire. Figured I could have a beer after a successfull 7.5 miler!

Today I'm just sore. I'm going to blame it on this weather system that's just sitting over top of us. My sinuses are acting up, knees are a bit sore. Looks like I'm going to have to bump my speed workout to Thursday (from Wednesday) because we have to go to a viewing Wednesday night :(

Athenna--hang in there! Could you maybe switch to a walking program for OUC? I know Hal Higdon has some walking plans.

athenna

10-26-2010, 08:12 AM

Athenna--hang in there! Could you maybe switch to a walking program for OUC? I know Hal Higdon has some walking plans.

I've got a walking plan..I walked the Princess Half...I don't know if I can even walk it:(

nono

10-26-2010, 10:11 AM

mickeyndvcfan

10-26-2010, 11:37 AM

I've got a walking plan..I walked the Princess Half...I don't know if I can even walk it:(

:poke:think possitive....you'll be fine for the race. :hug1: After I finished Rehoboth last year and my knee was killing me I didn't think that I would do another race. But I did and I have two more coming up with a 5k this weekend.

mickeyndvcfan

10-26-2010, 11:38 AM

DisneyGeek

10-26-2010, 01:27 PM

I'm afraid I'm still busy trying to catch up on things here :blush: & in real life... :blech:

So Saturday I was feeling kinda' crummy all day. At least I still ran about 3.25 miles outside @ I think 10:06 average pace. Sunday i swam my normal 1800 yards. Monday I did crunches in the morning and tried doing the basic level "10 Minute Yoga" workout twice that DW was streaming off NetFlix. First time I've attempted Yoga, and it is HARD!!! I'm not that coordinated to begin with and found trying to contort into weird positions to look up at the TV while doing a downward facing dog to attempt and figure out what the heck I was supposed to do next quite a challenge! :grin: It was kinda' fun trying something new to me though. DW tried a little yoga for a few workouts off a DVD years ago, so she isn't exactly experienced with it either... :silly: Might be a LOT easier if I just learned what the different posses (forms?) were called so I could follow along audibly and not have to watch the TV while trying to do it! :scratchchin: Problem is I'm not good AT ALL at memorizing choreography type stuff- one of the many reasons I did backstage technical theater or play drums as far back in the corner as I can rather than trying to perform on stage!

Got in a walk with my friend here at work today before the storm really hit us. We'll have to wait and see what tomorrow holds exercise wise!!! :goodvibes:

Rozzie

10-26-2010, 02:55 PM

How do you tell an old runner from a new runner?

An old runner wakes up with a knee ache and says, "Hot damn. An extra rest day!"

A new runner wakes up with a knee aches and says, "Oh crap! I'll never run again."

:)

Isn't that the truth! I LOVE IT! :thumbsup2:

Jen, did you watch some foam roller videos on YouTube? Everytime I don't know how to do something (ie, like using my KT tape on new area) I youtube some videos. Waaaalaaa. Instant foam roller instructor.

I would do the foam roller. Put it this way, if it's hurting than it might be something that can be rolled out. I would foam roll for 2-3 minutes straight x2 a day for next 2 days and see. Don't lose focus, can you swim? Ride bike? Do yoga? Something to keep moving if you can't run. We all have had injuries, and we find a way to come back from them. Keep POSITIVE! Oh and yes you can cut and paste my wonderful advice when I am moaning about a ache or pain later on down the road...yes I know it's frustrating but I think you are letting life defeat you. It supposed to be other way around, we conquer life. :)

MatterhornMiss

10-26-2010, 07:08 PM

Welcome to the club Jen! Injuries suck that's for sure. So now comes the point when you decide how you're going to deal with it. It's definitely a learning curve--getting familiar with your body as you walk and run and what various pains and aches mean for you. Looking back on my first major injury a year ago I do wish I had taken nono's active recovery approach since completely stopping was hard to come back from. I know sometimes it is what you have to do. I do think taking some time to cross train is a good idea. I think it's a good idea too to have a good sports med doc who appreciates running (and won't just tell you to stop) to be able to see when you need to. Okay forgive my disjointed advice--these are things I have learned on my journey. Try not to put so much pressure on yourself (I know pot calling the kettle black); you will feel better.
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nono

10-27-2010, 04:21 AM

BTW, I was the runner saying "Hot Damn" yesterday. :D But, like MM points out, cross-training sure has its merits. Eventually, I did drag out the slideboard and do that instead of running. No complaints from the ol' knee.

Rozzie

10-27-2010, 04:50 AM

I like to think of it this way. Body in motion tends to stay in motion. Body at rest tends to stay at rest. That is why I may take a few days off from running, but never a complete extended time away from it. I know myself too well and get quite slothful in the down time and don't feel like doing anything. :blush:

The more I get into running, the more important cross training seems. Even though I hate those leg strength workouts from Advanced Marathoning book. Geepers my legs are DEAD this morning. Oh and it feels like August outside to make it even more fun. :oweye:

Jen, did this come on with the new shoes? How many times did you foam roll yesterday? I think MM gave you some great advice. (hint hint) Hope you are better today...

withdisneyspirit

10-27-2010, 05:20 AM

I have to say I agree with everyone else. I didn't post a lot from last august when my former :rolleyes: orthopedic doc told me to give up running; I was too emotional at that time. I basically studied my body reactions to running - did a bunch of reading about knee pains online and started running with a new stride. That did the trick for me! I even ran 12 miles Saturday and when my rheumatologist checked my knees yesterday, she said there was no fluid collected in them :goodvibes:

So, work that foam roller and really self analyze your pain (exactly where is it and so forth), do some online research but rolling it out may do the trick. Your stride could be contributing to the strained calf though. Most of all, I hope you feel on top of your game again soon!

athenna

10-27-2010, 06:13 AM

Right now I seem to be way to emotional to even read through all the replies:headbrickwall: I started to read Rozzie's first reply and I started to cry, what a moron I am, lol...No, Roz you didn't say anything to make me cry, it's just my reaction to stuff right now.
Went to the track yesterday, felt a bit better than I did on Sunday, did 3.16 miles in 45 min, which is fine..Did more running during the intervals than I did Sunday. Now of course, I am in agony..It's a weird pain, kind of on the side of calf:confused: Not my shin but not the back of my leg either.
Can't go to my doc, because my doc will refer me to a sports doc, or an ortho whatever, but I can't as my insurance won't cover it.
I don't what I'm gonna do about this race.

DisneyGeek

10-27-2010, 07:45 AM

A- Good luck with pain. Sticky situation to be sure; I don't have any advice other than "Listen to MM, Roz, and nono"! :fingerscrossed:

Rozes- Congrats to you both on the races!

I hope everyone else is doing well now or will be soon also. :goodvibes:

Personally, I'm still rather sore in my abdominal region and across my shoulders on my back and bottom of my upper arms. DW also has the same latter arm pain! :silly: Note to self- consider taking Yoga (or first shot at any new exercise! :rolleyes:) a little easier if/when we try it again. ;) Anyway, I'll probably try and get my allergy shots @ lunch then hit the ellip for 30 min. (instead of 16) starting around 7 PM. Not going to do crunches or weights at all today since I think that may be unwise since I'm still feeling Monday more than I'm happy about... Then hopefully I will get back to my normal plan and run Thursday, do crunches/weights/ellip Friday, etc. :thumbsup2:

cloudnut220

10-27-2010, 08:29 AM

:hug1: Athenna--listen to your body. Sending good thoughts your way.

DG-Glad you're back--now where's that DL recap? I need to live vicariously!

DisneyGeek

10-27-2010, 08:48 AM

DG-Glad you're back--now where's that DL recap? I need to live vicariously!

Hopefully write & post it this weekend with pictures... Returning to real life has been CRAZY! :silly:

MatterhornMiss

10-27-2010, 12:54 PM

Rozzie

10-27-2010, 02:06 PM

Jen--I am finding I feel so much happier since giving myself permission to walk during my marathon. I had put so much pressure on myself that I was afraid I wouldn't be able to do it at all. So take some time and back off a bit: cross train, do more intervals or just walk it all.
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Very good advice again!

Jen, right now you have some things out of your control. BUT there is a lot in your control. How much are you icing a day? How many times are you using the foam roller? Do yoga. There are tons of free yoga on the internet. There is a lot you can be doing even if you are not training. Who knows, this thing might go away next week and you need to make sure you are doing everything you can TODAY to keep yourself ready.

MatterhornMiss

10-27-2010, 03:39 PM

All that being said, there is no guarantee I won't be whining again next week about not being able to do it. :p

There are great days and not so great days when it comes to running. I love the great days when everything seems to come together. Then there are the not so great days where I feel clunky and slow and I hurt and I want to vomit and I only keep going because I know I need to and because an ice bath awaits me at home.

Ice is great. So is stretching. And finding positives to hang your hat on (where I think the real battle is) is so important. Running is so mental. That's why I like the quote I found by Henry Ford (which is in my signature if I post from a real computer): "Whether you believe you can or believe you can't, you're probably right." I only want to encourage you because I'm right there, too.

Let me share more of my stupidity in putting pressure on myself and having a twisted since of success when it comes to running. I have done three halfs and thought so little of that accomplishment that I wouldn't allow myself to get any goodies celebrating it. Forget the fact that I finished my first less than one year after being completely inactive or while still recovering from an injury that a salesman at a shoe store told me he'd seen a lot of women (yes he said women) get all excited about starting to run, get injured, and give up never to run again (I wanted to get better just to prove him wrong). I had this idiotic belief that if I didn't do a full it didn't count. I was even embarrassed by the fact I had to walk some of it so that I wouldn't tell people I "ran" my first marathon, just finished it. In my breakdown the past two weeks (and I'm glad I had it if I could realize all these things) I was being an idiot. So I ordered myself a 13.1 magnet and running top and decided to be proud of what I've done instead of lamenting what I haven't.

So celebrate you, Jen and all my lovely Peacocks!
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athenna

10-27-2010, 04:21 PM

Rozzie

10-27-2010, 06:03 PM

MM, **let me pull up my marathon soapbox**, Marathon, smarathon. I don't get the whole "you must run a marathon before you are considered a true runner" ideal that seems to be blanketed over the running community. Nono and I (do you remember which issue Nono?) read a great article in Running Times that discussed why maybe it's good NOT to do a marathon every year. Concentrate on middle distance, get speed, avoid dead shuffles etc.

I am at a crossroads myself. I used to dislike 5Ks and 10Ks. Now that I am in better physical shape, I am enjoying them more. I can't help but notice the people who usually win overall's in these races are not marathon runners. They are incredible runners who decided to focus on middle distance. Sure they have run Boston and all that, but they say over and over that it's the best of both worlds. You still train, HARD mind you, but your body handles the training a lot better. They still do 50-75 mpw's, but it's a completly different focus.

It's funny how someone would think who doesn't run that a 5K is a piece of cake, and a marathon is the big kahuna. Well tell that to somebody trying to break a 19 min 5K. That is some serious hauling. They will train like you and I probably can't even imagine. It's all about finding your sweet spot. Some people love the marathon, some people love 10Ks, Halfs etc. I am beginning to think I may have a new sweet spot myself. But FIRST I will dwell in marathon land for a while, but I could totally see myself backing off and concentrating on HMs and below for the future.

I say all this to say: Just because you are a runner doesn't mean you have to run a entire marathon. That doesn't make you a runner. Ask the Ultra wizards and they will tell you they take plenty of walk breaks. Being a runner is going to be different for all of us. We all have different goals and places we want to be in 5 years. I do know this, wear your sticker with pride on your car. How many people do you know can do 13.1 miles?

mickeyndvcfan

10-27-2010, 06:18 PM

I was soooo upset when my foot started hurting me at the AF half I was almost in tears. I was on my way to having my best time for a half. But if it is one thing that I have gotten from doing the races, it's that I'm (and we all should be) proud of whatever time I finish with. Of course we always want to do better then the race before but sometimes things happen that we have no control over and we have to just smile and say I'll do next time.
The first time that I did a 5k with my grandson (he was 4 1/2) he asked me who the winner was. I told him that everyone who raced was a winner. Which he still remembers to this day. So no matter how you cross the finish line, runing, run/walk or walk, all the Peacocks are winners. :rocker:

nono

10-28-2010, 04:09 AM

Thanks, MM & Roz:hug1: I appreciate all your help. Well, I'm icing once a day and same w/foam roller, guess that's not enough, lol....I keep hoping the damn thing just gets better. I'll walk the whole race if I have to, I just feel that I've come so far, why walk, but thats just me being stubborn I gues.

What? My joke didn't help? :oweye: Heck, it didn't make you cry at least right??? :p

I'm going to throw another possibility out there. Given what you just wrote above, is it possible you are looking for a reason to not go to FL in Dec? Subliminally perhaps? You have a whole lot of important things going on in your real life right now, and perhaps your body is trying to tell you that you really can't take on this trip and race in addition to everything else.

Hoping is inaction. Icing and foam rolling is action. Decide what you want woman, and then do it. And it is perfectly fine to decide that now is not the time, and simply keep training gently for the next thing and deal with all your other priorities that life has handed you! :hug1:

P.S. to MM - I don't think Usain Bolt considers himself an imposter for not running marathons....

Rozzie

10-28-2010, 04:53 AM

P.S. to MM - I don't think Usain Bolt considers himself an imposter for not running marathons....

Quote of the year!! :rocker:

cloudnut220

10-28-2010, 05:37 AM

MM--I was starting to doubt whether my WDW 1/2 would count as "running" a half since I'm planning on doing it with 4/1 intervals. My doubt was mainly from the reaction I get from other people when I tell them I'm doing a run/walk. Their reaction is always something like "oh, well if you're taking walk breaks, then you're not REALLY running, so that's not a big deal." Mind you, most of these people couldn't RUN a mile to save their lives and that I'm doing intervals with an overall time in the mid-10s--not too bad. Eventually I would like to run ALL of a 1/2, but right now, I just want to do what's right for my body. So I'm feeling that self imposed pressure as well...but I'm trying to let it go! And you all are helping! :D

nono

10-28-2010, 06:22 AM

Quote of the year!! :rocker:
Yeah. Too bad I misspelled impostor. :blush:

nono

10-28-2010, 06:24 AM

Oh, and in the interest of full disclosure, the only reason I run marathons is that I'm not allowed to date anymore.

FACT.

athenna

10-28-2010, 06:41 AM

What? My joke didn't help? :oweye: Heck, it didn't make you cry at least right??? :p

I'm going to throw another possibility out there. Given what you just wrote above, is it possible you are looking for a reason to not go to FL in Dec? Subliminally perhaps? You have a whole lot of important things going on in your real life right now, and perhaps your body is trying to tell you that you really can't take on this trip and race in addition to everything else.

Hoping is inaction. Icing and foam rolling is action. Decide what you want woman, and then do it. And it is perfectly fine to decide that now is not the time, and simply keep training gently for the next thing and deal with all your other priorities that life has handed you! :hug1:

Lol, no your joke didn't help, but it didn't make me cry either:grin:
Are you kidding, the only thing making me not want to pull out all my hair (just an expression:grin:) is knowing I'm going to WDW and getting to see all of you:hug1:

I know hoping is an inaction I only said hoping because I'm not going to get it medically treated. I was much better w/the icing yesterday even though it was a rest day, and I'll be icing a few times again today. The roller intimidates me, and I'm not convinced it's made for my issue, but I'll use it again once or twice today anyway.

cloudnut220

10-28-2010, 10:18 AM

athenna

10-28-2010, 10:34 AM

Today I am scheduled to do 45 min of 3/2 intervals again...I think I'm only doing more damage to my leg if I go out and do it:boohoohoo: I don't know what the heck to do:( Rest it and try tomorrow? I shouldn't need this much rest:rolleyes:

DisneyGeek

10-28-2010, 10:44 AM

I had this idiotic belief that if I didn't do a full it didn't count. I was even embarrassed by the fact I had to walk some of it so that I wouldn't tell people I "ran" my first marathon, just finished it. In my breakdown the past two weeks (and I'm glad I had it if I could realize all these things) I was being an idiot.

:rotfl2: LOL!!! I was EXACTLY the same way about needing a full & my walking intervals on my thus far only half. It took DW a while to convenice me to buy the 13.1 magnet I have, but I'm glad I did at the Expo and do smile when I pass it on my car. Glad you ordered one for yourself! :thumbsup2: I do still say that I "did a half marathon" rather than 'ran one' most of the time, but the fact that we've completed them is indeed a lot more than a lot of people ever do!!! :D

Elliptical felt really good last night, or at least it did after I was done with my 30 minutes. :silly: Actually, about 25ish minutes in I was in my groove and thought "Wow, only 5 minutes left to go?". :grin: Nice to be getting myself back on track and need to include with that dropping off those extra few pounds I brought home from DL's :eating:... ;) My plan remains a hamster torture session tonight after work; don't see any reason that one happen. Might even do my walk here at work; my friend's schedule has been tight lately and he wasn't sure if he could manage today since we did Tuesday.

DisneyGeek

10-28-2010, 10:59 AM

MatterhornMiss

10-28-2010, 11:17 AM

Jen--I know what Carrie would say (because it is also in MfM): take three days completely off and see how you feel. I also think I understand what nono is saying. I often wonder how much of my pain is mental because I am afraid. Challenging myself is scary and I tend to give into fear (and that's what I want to be the reason I run a marathon -- to do something that scares me). I notice my aches seem to increase with anxiety. Standing in my corral before the start of the DLR half my ITB felt weak suddenly when I hadn't done anything. I told it to shut up.

I am not opposed to the three days off--I did it myself last week and am so glad I did. But I used that time to take a hard look at my motivation for running a full and changing my goals and doing a lot of self pep talks. And I feel I am better prepared because of it.

Ran 6 miles last night. It's weird that my short runs are 5 and 6 miles now when they were 3 and 4 for so long. It's getting dark so early I had to do the last two on the TM. I made it despite that ;)
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MatterhornMiss

10-28-2010, 11:19 AM

DG I'm glad you have such a sensible wife! I got my magnet but had a hard time finding a place it would stick as apparently part of my car's body is plastic.
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DisneyGeek

10-28-2010, 11:24 AM

I missed a page before my above posts (oops!) but it doesn't really change my answer, other than to add that exorcising EVERY day isn't necessarily good for everyone (perhaps not myself either!) but although I plan to do it then if I miss a day I might tweak my schedule for a particular workout but generally do NOT try and double up days to 'make it up'. My main point was that instead of running on a given day when that seems like it may cause more trouble, and assuming you don't want/need a rest day, what about a different form of cross training?

P.S. to MM - I don't think Usain Bolt considers himself an imposter for not running marathons....

Probably not, especially not with those records to back it up! :rotfl2: I had to Google him though- and are you SURE he's never done a full? :confused: Maybe he just doesn't tell anyone about it... ;) And the the original spelling made me chuckle and think Porncess and Quacker oats! :) In fact, I hadn't noticed until you pointed it out later!

DisneyGeek

10-28-2010, 11:28 AM

DG I'm glad you have such a sensible wife!

Me to! :D She often takes better care of me (mentally and physically) than I do myself... :blush:

Mr. Roz

10-28-2010, 11:50 AM

Hey Jenn, I agree that you should take three days off of running. Take good care of your aches and regroup. Start back refreshed and ready to go.
There is no shame in taking some time off. I know that when I have had to back off, I was frustrated and kinda loony with cabin fever. But by the end of the rest I was better and ready to go.
As long as you put one foot in front of the other and your enjoying your surroundings you should go for it. One of the best parts about running is that feeling when you have reached the crest of a hill and start that downward trek to the finish. Aches and pains during training are inevitable. Take care of them. You will get better and faster.
The Humidity started up again early this week and I had one of the worst tempo runs in months. A week away from a goal 10 k and I am looking over my goal time with a little trepidation. The temperature has made an almost 1 minute change to my pace. Crazy.
Speaking of crazy I read an article on the Great Wall Marathon and really, really want to do that one day. Hey Nono, know anyone that speaks Chinese?

athenna

10-28-2010, 12:25 PM

A- FWIW, I personally try not to do the same type of exercise two days in a row. I know others have different philosophies, but I particularly schedule a lower impact workout after running days because when I previously tried running 2 or more days back to back I ended up feeling lots of pains in lots of places! What is your personal cross vs. run/walk overall schedule like?

Thanks DG, I never do the same thing in a row anyway...I sure never attempt any running 2 days in a row..On a ''normal'' week, I do intervals, Mon, Thurs, Sat..Just walk at normal pace on treadmill Tues & Fri..Rest Wed & Sun.

Jen--I know what Carrie would say (because it is also in MfM): take three days completely off and see how you feel. I also think I understand what nono is saying. I often wonder how much of my pain is mental because I am afraid. Challenging myself is scary and I tend to give into fear (and that's what I want to be the reason I run a marathon -- to do something that scares me). I notice my aches seem to increase with anxiety. Standing in my corral before the start of the DLR half my ITB felt weak suddenly when I hadn't done anything. I told it to shut up.

I am not opposed to the three days off--I did it myself last week and am so glad I did. But I used that time to take a hard look at my motivation for running a full and changing my goals and doing a lot of self pep talks. And I feel I am better prepared because of it.

Ran 6 miles last night. It's weird that my short runs are 5 and 6 miles now when they were 3 and 4 for so long. It's getting dark so early I had to do the last two on the TM. I made it despite that ;)
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Ok, I can take the 3 days off completely which means I'll rest until Saturday..I just always feel guilty, like I'm not doing enough if I'm home instead iof being out training *rolls eyes at myself*

Hey Jenn, I agree that you should take three days off of running. Take good care of your aches and regroup. Start back refreshed and ready to go.
There is no shame in taking some time off. I know that when I have had to back off, I was frustrated and kinda loony with cabin fever. But by the end of the rest I was better and ready to go.
As long as you put one foot in front of the other and your enjoying your surroundings you should go for it. One of the best parts about running is that feeling when you have reached the crest of a hill and start that downward trek to the finish. Aches and pains during training are inevitable. Take care of them. You will get better and faster.
The Humidity started up again early this week and I had one of the worst tempo runs in months. A week away from a goal 10 k and I am looking over my goal time with a little trepidation. The temperature has made an almost 1 minute change to my pace. Crazy.
Speaking of crazy I read an article on the Great Wall Marathon and really, really want to do that one day. Hey Nono, know anyone that speaks Chinese?

Thanks Scott, that does make sense and make me feel a lot better:). Cabin fever is exactly it...For example, weather here is usually pretty crummy in Oct, well the sun is shining and it's 77 degrees and I want to go out and walk or whatever, but I guess I'll stay home and ice:grin:
Oh, you should totally go to China!

ETA:I may have good news tomorrow to tell you all, but I don't want to jinx it, LOL...Not running related once bit, lol.

Rozzie

10-28-2010, 03:49 PM

Probably not, especially not with those records to back it up! :rotfl2: I had to Google him though- and are you SURE he's never done a full? :confused: Maybe he just doesn't tell anyone about it... ;) !

Ha! He is track and field god. For a track god to go to a marathon, we would be reading about it in every publication on the market today for about 6 months. Remember when Goucher went for her first full? Oh and Flanagan "coming out" in NYC next week. Every magazine I have had in the last few months is about her attempting her first full. They are recruited heavily by the big races to host their debuts. Big deals, agents, and lots of money. I don't think Bolt though has the desire right now, he wants to perch himself back on top after getting whipped by what's his name. It is a known thing the sprinters lose their speed and turnover when they go distance--and vice versa. There has been lots of mumblings how Ryan Hall should go back to the track and get some turnover back and back off the marathons. I don't think he will IMHO, as he has way too many sponsors. (I mean, how many adds can he be in?)

Jen, have you rolled today? :poke: :)

Rozzie

10-28-2010, 03:55 PM

This is OT from the current conversation, but not OT generally, so here it is...

The Washington Post has an interesting graphic up right now about what marathon training does to your body: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/section/Marine-Corps-Marathon-2010-Ready-or-not-graphic/index.html?wpisrc=nl_health

Pretty interesting stuff!

This is really really good find!!!! I am saving it and posting it on ROTE if you don't mind. I love the brain one. The ONE thing I can say that has changed me (besides diet) is reading Brain Training by Fitzgerald (Coach Nono steered me to this). It has made all the difference in how hard I press down in a race. :thumbsup2:

Thanks Beth!! :)

cloudnut220

10-28-2010, 06:03 PM

I did a variation on the Mr. Roz suggested workout tonight--I tried to do 4 miles at my 10k pace. I did the 4 miles--as intervals, running 1 mile, then with a two minute walking rest between each. On the first interval I was 45 seconds below my race pace (:oweye:) and then on the second three I was 30 seconds above. I need to work on leveling out that pacing to try to hit race pace throughout. I was surprised how well it went though :goodvibes:

Roz-glad you enjoyed the article!

DisneyGeek

10-28-2010, 08:58 PM

I have a killer headache that so far Ibuprofin & Sudafed are helping but not clearing... BUT, I did 30 min. on the mill as run 6 @ 6 MPH, walk 1 @ 4 MPH. The last minute of that I maxed the torture system to 10 MPH... :thumbsup2:

Anyway, I'm glad I got my time served, and felt a little better doing it. :D

...and speaking of Bolts, we had some bolting of our own that started last night:

http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6924

nono

10-29-2010, 06:02 AM

cloudnut220

10-29-2010, 06:04 AM

I need help.

(That's one statement that no one can argue with...)

But, let me continue...

I'm trying to plan a get together with my kids' FL friends for the December trip. What plans have I committed to with everyone??!! THX in advance! After race day, it all gets fuzzy.

As a tag along, I'm coming in at the tail end of your OUC trip (December 9) and if anyone is still around I would love to meet up!

Rozzie

10-29-2010, 11:55 AM

nono

10-29-2010, 12:48 PM

Well certainly nono you are not obligated to any of the stuff we got lined up. But if you are wondering, peacock bbq is sat night. Tues night we are going to chevy's for happy hour. Oh and Monday is the wave @ 5pm.
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OK, it was Monday for the "big" dinner. It was originally Kona right? I couldn't remember where it moved to or what night it was! I didn't want to make plans and then have to cancel on the other Mom when I was reminded of what else I had already committed to do... That's the only ressie, right?

I sure hope they don't want to meet Saturday after the race, but who knows? They usually don't come over from the Bay on the weekends, so that's probably safe!

Thanks for the reminder! :)

nono

10-29-2010, 12:57 PM

Pass me a brown paper bag, would ya?????

Been holding my breath on this for a long time (almost a year....)

Found this in my email just now:

Dear <nono>,

This is to notify you that your entry into the 115th Boston Marathon on Monday, April 18, 2011 has been accepted, provided that the information you submitted is accurate.

You can verify your acceptance into the field by searching the 115th Boston Marathon Entrants database (http://www.baa.org/Races/Boston-Marathon/Participant-Information/Entrants.aspx) on the B.A.A. web site. Additionally, a Confirmation of Acceptance card will be mailed to you via US Postal Service mail.
______________________________

I searched. I'm in there!
:love30::love30:

mickeyndvcfan

10-29-2010, 01:40 PM

pass me a brown paper bag, would ya?????

Been holding my breath on this for a long time (almost a year....)

found this in my email just now:

dear <nono>,

this is to notify you that your entry into the 115th boston marathon on monday, april 18, 2011 has been accepted, provided that the information you submitted is accurate.

you can verify your acceptance into the field by searching the 115th boston marathon entrants database (http://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/participant-information/entrants.aspx) on the b.a.a. Web site. Additionally, a confirmation of acceptance card will be mailed to you via us postal service mail.
______________________________

i searched. I'm in there!
:love30::love30:

woohoo nono!!!

DisneyGeek

10-29-2010, 02:37 PM

nono- Awesome & congrats on Boston!!! :thumbsup2: :cheerleader:

As of an hour ago we are going straight to a friends place for dinner with them. So plan of head home, exercise, then eat dinner just the two of us went out the window. Oh well! If we get home early enough (yeah right) then I'll do the plan, otherwise I'll either do crunches only or a total rest day... :silly: What can I see except "life happens"! :confused24:

athenna

10-29-2010, 03:18 PM

Rozzie

10-29-2010, 05:20 PM

Whooohoo Nono! Peagreen with envy though. I will have to live my wildest dreams through you for time being. (okay, that sounded weird...;))

I have fallen off the sugar truck.

Pumpkin spice cake for dinner last night. Then had choc fudge cake at work today. Both desserts were fresh baked yummy stuff. Yes I know I can eat it sometimes, but for dinner? WTF? :confused: Added a extra run in today for penalty. :(

cyl-e

10-29-2010, 07:02 PM

Wow -
You guys are amazing! Roz and Mr. Roz - you're awesome and so intimidating... I can't imagine ever winning (or coming close to winning) my age group much less all women.
And nono - congrats on Boston, what a wonderful achievement.

I have fallen off of the running wagon this week. Work has been killing me (late night train rides, early morning train rides) and then curling season has started - so that adds a few late nights and we're curling this weekend. I don't like to workout or run before I curl that day - because it tires my legs out and I don't play particularly well. I'm hoping work starts settling down a little - at least enough for me to get back into a running groove. I'm worried about it - b/c I had gotten to be so regular and really want to see how much I can improve next year if I keep running consistently, and I'm afraid that when I fall off the wagon like this, that I won't get back on.
but I needed my sleep this week.

the one redeeming fact is that we've won our curling matches so far. Big day tomorrow - much tougher competition and potentially 3 games. would be amazing to be victorious in all.

Rozzie

10-29-2010, 07:26 PM

Good luck Cly-e!! (do let us know how it went!!) I think YOU are AMAZING for curling. I have always said the sport always fascinated me. How long have you been doing it? I think it's so cool you do that. I would not worry about falling off the running wagon. I think once your schedule calms down and you can get a sense of order you will be right back into running. Maybe in the off time think of running as supplementing your curling? That way it will motivate you more to do it. I think running defines our bodies and makes us stretch beyond our comfort level to new heights---and it helps everything else we also happen to do in our life.

Does that make any sense? I might have sugar overload. Blah. :blech:

Mr. Roz

10-29-2010, 11:17 PM

nono

10-30-2010, 05:49 AM

Thanks team for sharing in my excitement. I'm calmer today...because I have to eventually click off some 13 miles and my whole left side is stiff. :eek: It's like -30F out there right now though, so I have plenty of time to loosen up and get out there.

cyl-e -- good luck and have fun today!!!! Finding a balance between sports and the rest of your life is really tricky. Keep at it. You'll find some way to make it all work at some point!

Wonder if Roz is down from her sugar high yet? :scratchchin:

cloudnut220

10-30-2010, 06:42 AM

nono--congratulations on boston!

Roz-hold that sugar high--we'll all be there with you by the end of the weekend!

athenna

10-30-2010, 07:16 AM

I have 8 miles scehduled for today at 3/1 intervals...You all that know me, know I threaten to give up, but I'm no quitter! I rested, iced,etc for 3 days, I am going out later to attempt my training, but I'm not pressuring myself to do 8 miles, if I have to totally walk it, fine, that I can for 8 miles without a second thought.
I'll report back later.

5 weeks to OUC:cheerleader: (I'll be there no matter what I have to do)

Rozzie

10-30-2010, 08:35 AM

Ditto here for Nono! congrats

Hey Roz, you forgot to mention the Red Velvet cupcake and the canoli.;)

Well Coach Hardarse, if you want to get technical we split the piece of red velvet cupcake and spice cake. So for dinner I had 1/2 of a cupcake and 1/2 slice of spice cake. The canoli was a mini canoli that was only as long as my pinky--and that was just quality control to make sure the bakery was still making them up to our high standards so those calories technically don't count. :p Now the fudge cake was a whole slice the next day....

No Halloween candy in the house, refuse to buy it. I don't need another gram of sugar for the next decade. I am going to a party with my mom and won't be home anyway. (no we are not dressing up, unless you call her blanket of insecurity a costume and my jacket of pinned up resentment toward her a matching get up. :grin:)

cloudnut220

10-30-2010, 10:38 AM

No Halloween candy in the house, refuse to buy it. I don't need another gram of sugar for the next decade. I am going to a party with my mom and won't be home anyway. (no we are not dressing up, unless you call her blanket of insecurity a costume and my jacket of pinned up resentment toward her a matching get up. :grin:)

You sound like me and my mom :rotfl2:

I just got back from 8.52 miles at an overall pace of 10.31. Man, I love running when it's cold. It was 45 degrees when I headed out, 52 now. I just felt like I could keep going forever, and I didn't even feel like I was running at a hard pace. :D

DisneyGeek

10-30-2010, 11:49 AM

A- Hope the workout goes well!!!

curling season has started - so that adds a few late nights and we're curling this weekend. I don't like to workout or run before I curl that day - because it tires my legs out and I don't play particularly well.

What about considering curling your "cross training" and planning to NOT run on those days? :confused24: Just a thought! FWIW, I see NO reason for guilt, and as long as you keep running on your curl-less days that ought to help transition back to more running when the season ends... Anyway, have fun throwing those stones and keep up the wins! I have a co-worker who's been on a c team in the past, wonder if she's doing it this year? :scratchchin:

Roz- Funny on the sugar and GL w/ mom! :fingerscrossed:

DisneyGeek

10-30-2010, 02:26 PM

Got today's run in. Plan was 6.25 miles; my new "regular" Saturday distance. However, I decided to try and find a nice turn point for that distance, instead of staring @ Garmin. I ended up doing 7.03 miles @ 10:14 pace running ~3 min to 1 min. walk. With my warm up & cool down I did a total of 7.33 miles. I just might make that course my routine Saturday base distance... :scratchchin: Anyway, once I got in gear it felt really good to get out there. Although I was little stuffy, it was 50 degrees / 39% humidity at the start and 52 / 38% at the end. Only marked problem was a dog started following NEXT TO ME IN THE STREET barking it's head off for most of a short block! I walked for about 3 minutes because of it- wanted to be around the corner and out of sight before I resumed running... :silly: It was wearing a blaze orange hunting look collar w/ tags so that was a bit of a comfort from a disease perspective, but I still didn't like it. :mad: All in all a good run though and very glad I got out! :D With my temperature sensativities I'm not sure how many more times I'll run outside again before spring...

Happy Halloween (a little early) and have a great weekend everyone! :thumbsup2:

athenna

10-30-2010, 02:30 PM

A- Hope the workout goes well!!!

Well, it didn't, it was a disaster, but I don't want to get into it:( Training is on hold for now. If I can't do the race, no big deal, it's not the end of the world. There'll be other races, hopefully.

nono

10-30-2010, 05:40 PM

:hug1: Jen, :hug1:.

No talking, just :hug1:.

Rozzie

10-30-2010, 07:18 PM

Me too Jen. :hug1:

cloudnut220

10-30-2010, 07:54 PM

jen--it can only get better :hug1:

withdisneyspirit

10-30-2010, 09:06 PM

So sorry, Jen!! :( I sure hope you get healed soon! :hug1:

I am thrilled to hear your news, nono! :goodvibes:

Just be glad you don't have Edgar's Bakery down there or Pastry Art either, Roz - oh my goodness, they have awesome cakes! :eating:

Good for you, DG, for getting your run in. We managed to get our run in in the dark tonight. We were in Holly Pond celebrating our nephew's 8th birthday most of the day. Came home, dressed and did our run from 5:30pm to 7pm. Next week, Rick is striking into new territory because it is our 14 miler - he's a bit nervous!

nono

10-31-2010, 06:14 AM

Jen,

When you are ready to talk about it, I have something to ask.

athenna

10-31-2010, 06:19 AM

Jen,

When you are ready to talk about it, I have something to ask.

Go right ahead!

Thanks for the hugs all:hug1:

KNWVIKING 2.0

10-31-2010, 07:00 AM

bump...

athenna

10-31-2010, 07:39 AM

Wonders why:viking: is bumping everything

nono

10-31-2010, 07:55 AM

Jen,

I woke up with my calf killing me, I mean KILLING to the point of waking me from a sound sleep. Couldn't run this morning, but I did walk a mile. (You bet I'm counting it towards my mileage today!)

Thing is, it isn't really my calf that is the problem. It's further up the kinetic chain for me -- up in my hip. For you, your calf may be the issue, but it could be something else and you are just experiencing referral pain.

I like Roz's idea of finding a running chiropractor. Because, maybe something else in your bod is out of whack and s/he may be able to find that area which will then start to ease your calf issue.

Hang in there while you unravel the great mystery. :goodvibes:

athenna

10-31-2010, 08:32 AM

Thanks nono:hug1: Appreciate it:) I wasn't aware of referral pain:scratchchin: Interesting.

Rozzie

10-31-2010, 04:58 PM

Oh absolutely there is referral pain. Every problem I have, knee, calf, Achilees, is from tight hip flexors. My chiropractor has saved me countless times by just working on my hips. Your body is all connected. Google "yoga for hip flexors" and start on your active recovery. Yoga is a powerful healer. My hips would never allow me to run if I didn't do yoga every day. I do about 10-20 min's after every run and a 75 min class every Thursday.
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cloudnut220

10-31-2010, 05:46 PM

DisneyGeek

10-31-2010, 06:25 PM

A- Hope things improve soon & GL with Yoga if you try that route; I hope it helps! :fingerscrossed:

I'm about to start my sugar shock--I just finished up with making pumpkin whoopie pies with cream cheese ginger icing!

:eating: Sounds tasty! I'm digging in to some chilli DW made now. Snagged a few pieces of commercial candy while handing it out to Trick or Treaters- I'll call in "random sampling for quality control". ;) Got in my normal 1800 yard swim; actually left home early enough I did my full 5 min. whirlpool, 10 steam & 5 sauna afterwords! :thumbsup2:

Rozzie

10-31-2010, 06:48 PM

I just looked up one of the yoga videos and I think I might give it a whirl. Hips are tight today after the LR tomorrow.

I'm about to start my sugar shock--I just finished up with making pumpkin whoopie pies with cream cheese ginger icing!

Yummy Beth! Scott made Pumpkin and Ginger pancakes this morning after our 15 miler. It was a hilly hard run and I did not feel one bit guilty about them, even put some powdered sugar and bananas on top. :) We found some Organic whole wheat pastry flour and used a recipe out of my Mayo heart healthy cookbook. I thought about you making em' (or watching Scott making them LOL) and wondered what you were cooking up for Halloween.

Hope the yoga helps the hips--I am not exaggerating when I say it has saved my running career. If you can call it a career LOL..

I did go over to Mom's, we didn't make party as she decided to do a Prime Rib and was really heavy into her wine when I got over there. I had some quality control sampling of her candy too. All of it passed the test...:rolleyes:

nono

10-31-2010, 07:18 PM

Team, some perspective (http://www.runningahead.com/forums/topic/a1c86c619b7e43e38336ed735253c7da/0).

It takes a few minutes to read. It's not a pretty story. It has a good ending.

Rozzie

10-31-2010, 07:43 PM

Team, some perspective (http://www.runningahead.com/forums/topic/a1c86c619b7e43e38336ed735253c7da/0).

It takes a few minutes to read. It's not a pretty story. It has a good ending.

I read this the other day on there. Very scary but well worth the read. I was actually thinking about him when I was running this morning. Can't take anything for granted.

DisneyGeek

10-31-2010, 07:53 PM

I started reading nono's link :scared07: then had to break away for a bit...

Reason I originally logged back in- I think I may have TOTALLY TOTALLY TOTALLY lost my mind- I am actually considering entering this for Sept. 2011:

NorthCoast 24-Hour Endurance Run - http://www.northcoast24.org/ (http://www.northcoast24.org/)

My goal would be to do at least 30 laps, which works out to a little over a full marathon... :eek: That would have tied me for 146th place (out of 147) in 2010. Since it is capped at 200 participants but 2010 only had 147, I'm still contemplating this since I probably wouldn't be taking space away from a serious competitor. Besides doing more than a full in total distance, my backup goal would be to attempt to not be last... :rolleyes:

Here is the kicker- it is the weekend following our 2-couple WDW trip and the weekend before the Akron Marathon (http://www.akronmarathon.org/team-relay.aspx). Plans have evolved for that and I'm probably going to be captain of a relay team of people who want to wear normal clothes and have fun just completing their portions of the race. The 24-hour event would sure be an interesting way to make penance for everything I'm likely to eat in the 'World leading up to it! ;)

As for my friend who wanted to wear the Jedi robes for the relay- (actually he was intending "dressed as Jedi" to mean tunics & leggings; I was the one who through he meant robes- silly me! :grin:) He has me almost convinced to do the Warrior Dash (http://warriordash.com/register2011_ohio.php) with him that is being held in Ohio June 4th. As long as I don't (seriously) injure myself it could be fun, and it is near an area he and his wife like to rent a cabin in periodically and they've been pushing for E & I to go with them sometime for the past few years. :silly:

So those are the 3 races currently on my 2011 radar...

At the moment I am considering trying to make 2012 the year to go for the WDW & DL halves and snag a Coast to Coast Challenge medal. Heck, I might as well just toss in my first full marathon sometime that year as well!!!

mickeyndvcfan

10-31-2010, 08:20 PM

nono...thanks for sharing

Here is a pic of our t-shirts we got today @ our 5K.....Matthew finished with 32:57 a minute less then his last race. Dave said that they hit the mile marker at 10:15. He then told Matthew that they better take it easy so he wouldn't have to stop during the race like he did on his last one. They were all at the finish cheering mom mom on. Love doing the races with the kids.....so much fun.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/mickey4ever/100_1461.jpg

DisneyGeek

10-31-2010, 08:25 PM

Gail- that's awesome- congrats and cool shirt! :goodvibes:

nono

11-01-2010, 05:16 AM

Gail,

So cool that Dave's teaching Matthew about pacing in a real race!!!! :)

withdisneyspirit

11-01-2010, 06:19 AM

Team, some perspective (http://www.runningahead.com/forums/topic/a1c86c619b7e43e38336ed735253c7da/0).

It takes a few minutes to read. It's not a pretty story. It has a good ending.

I read the whole thing with, I am sure, a terrible grimace on my face, nono!! This is probably why I am mostly chicken to run on the road. I seek out trails instead... His story was very shocking and his comeback inspirational! :eek:

nono...thanks for sharing

Here is a pic of our t-shirts we got today @ our 5K.....Matthew finished with 32:57 a minute less then his last race. Dave said that they hit the mile marker at 10:15. He then told Matthew that they better take it easy so he wouldn't have to stop during the race like he did on his last one. They were all at the finish cheering mom mom on. Love doing the races with the kids.....so much fun.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/mickey4ever/100_1461.jpg

I love the shirt too, Gail. It is great that Lupus is the cause as well :love30::goodvibes:

cloudnut220

11-01-2010, 06:33 AM

Team, some perspective (http://www.runningahead.com/forums/topic/a1c86c619b7e43e38336ed735253c7da/0).

It takes a few minutes to read. It's not a pretty story. It has a good ending.

That story scares me, and reminds me to look both ways ALWAYS before crossing a street. Since I live and run in the city this is particulary important--the first mile of my normal course from my house I cross probably 13 intersections, most of which just have stop signs that people love to run or overshoot. I can't assume a car is going to stop.

I think I'm getting a cold...I thought I just had bad allergies that were waking me up multiple times every night for the last week, but now it seems worse. Silly me took Nyquil last night and I still didn't sleep, so I'm in zombie mode today...

DisneyGeek

11-01-2010, 09:22 AM

Playing off nono's link, when I was running in DL a few weeks back I wasn't paying enough attention to their walk signal sequence and crossed a street when it turns out a different section had a turn arrow. So a car got mid intersection and had to stop because I was in their path. they weren't moving fast yet (it was a T so they really couldn't have come into the turn fast) but still stupid on my part- just glad I don't have a story like that one to tell! :scared07:

Bummer on the zombie mode CN. Hope you get well fast!

I've started concocting a plan to try and sqeak 56 laps (~50.442 miles) out of the NC24 if I do it... :scratchchin: :eek: I'm including multiple 2 hour planned rest periods and 6.5 hours sleep overnight- so it just might actually be doable for me if I start training my butt off! :rotfl2:

Incidentally, what I like about this over a conventional race is the ability to stop for extended periods to eat and rest; much less intimidating to my warped mind than doing a full marathon straight within a set time frame, plus if things go horrible wrong I could more easily bail (at least for an unplanned break) than in a conventional race! My friend mentioned Friday night about me not jumping in with both feet and trying to do a hundred mile race but starting with a 5k; I think he subconsciously jinxed me to stumble over this last night!!!! :silly:

Rozzie

11-01-2010, 02:06 PM

Mama Gail, tell Matthew congrats from me!! He'll be on the cover of our running magazines before he gets to high school. :) :thumbsup2:

Beth, I feel sickly too. I came home from work all motivated to mop and vaccum but now just feel blahhhh. Hope you bounce right back.

DG, you crack me up. You started out the year thinking a 10K was as much distance you were going to do--now you are signing up for 100 mile races. :grin:

Lisa, cooler weather is coming this weekend! :yahoo:

DisneyGeek

11-01-2010, 03:09 PM

DG, you crack me up.

Glad I'm good for comic relief! :D Hope ya' feel better soon!

I found a 10 miler (may have mentioned a while back actually) that I think I'm going to add to my 2011 plan as well... :rolleye11:
http://clevelandtenmiler.com/index.php

I started crunching through the vacation time numbers for 2011 & 2012 and I THINK I can probably make it work. I'll burn more than I earn in 2011, but I'm planning to carry enough into the year that I should be OK. (Why stick with just borrowing DVC points; why not use more than a year of vacation time as well? After all, living outside one's means is the [modern] American Way, right? ;)) Need to run a few things by DW and make sure she's still agreeable before I start registering for anything though. Conveniently, registration hasn't even opened for most of this stuff yet! :rotfl2:

nono

11-01-2010, 03:52 PM

So, anyone hoping for any holiday gifts of the running persuasion? :listen:

I'm guessing DG's hoping for race fees! :D

Rozzie

11-01-2010, 06:47 PM

So, anyone hoping for any holiday gifts of the running persuasion? :listen:

I'm guessing DG's hoping for race fees! :D

HA! I had the same thought when I read DG's post. I thought I was the only one who spent a sizeable percentage of my salary on race fees. :D

Well Santa wrote us a letter and said he is broke this year trying to take Ms. Claus to Italy in Feb. BUT there are really so many things I need. My arm sleeves are too big, my CWX winter tights are too big. (this losing weight thing is going to $$ break me) I need a new Road ID blinky, and my favorite shoes are on sale right now at RW. It's hard to justify to buy them when I already have a extra pair. Oh and we are out of Body Glide. Geepers, I feel very poor just typing all that out! :(

cloudnut220

11-01-2010, 07:17 PM

I really want a small digital camera to carry with me on race day. My DSLR is huge and too big for me to carry (I have to leave it with a spectator--I wouldn't trust checking it). So not exactly running gear. Speaking of gear though, I used a groupon at our local running store this weekend and we got $300 worth of stuff for $140! DH got shoes too, so it wasn't all me--and his motion control NBs were $140!!

Good run tonight. I went to the doctor and she says I have a sinus infection :( But she also cleared me to run and said that she is proud of me for coming in before I have bronchitis...so that's improvement!

Working on some last minute stuff on the blog--the Baltimore Sun's Maryland's Outstanding Blogs (MOBBIES) contest starts tomorrow and guess who's nominated! I won the personal category last year, so I've got to defend!:goodvibes:

Rozzie

11-02-2010, 04:34 AM

Working on some last minute stuff on the blog--the Baltimore Sun's Maryland's Outstanding Blogs (MOBBIES) contest starts tomorrow and guess who's nominated! I won the personal category last year, so I've got to defend!:goodvibes:

Good luck!! :fingerscrossed: I love your blog. :) Hope you feel better too!

cloudnut220

11-02-2010, 06:04 AM

Roz-Thank you!!

In case anyone would care to vote, here's the link to the Mobbies site. http://data.baltimoresun.com/mobbies/2010/voting/. You can vote once a day through November 12.

withdisneyspirit

11-02-2010, 07:54 AM

Hmmm, Rick and I just both got new shoes but I wouldn't mind having another pair of running tights, maybe the CWX winter ones too! :goodvibes: I have wanted to try them but they are $$$$

Oh, and I voted, Beth! :)

cloudnut220

11-02-2010, 08:05 AM

Thank you Lisa! :goodvibes:

So, out of curiosity I went and checked out the CWX tights. I haven't decided if I actually need full length tights yet since I have two pairs of North Face capri length tights I got on clearance at REI (they were $20 so I had to buy them!) So, do they really give support for your hip flexors? How?

Also, I think I'm in the market for something to hold gels and maybe my cell phone. I've been looking at the Spilbelt but does anyone have recommendations?

DisneyGeek

11-02-2010, 11:48 AM

Too funny on the race fees for my Christmas list! :rotfl2: Not a bad idea though... :blush: I'm also going to need to update my shoe budget if I'm going to follow through on more/longer races!

After looking more at the logistics of moving trips around, changing points up w/ DVC, and mainly the threat of training responsibly for an ultra, I'm now leaning toward NOT doing the NorthCoast24, at least not until 2013 at the earliest. HOWEVER, the Cleveland 10 Miler, Warrior Dash, and Akron Marathon Relay are all still very much on the table for 2011. I'm even toying with facing my fears both of continuous distance + winter training and MAYBE entering the WDW Full Marathon in 2012 (instead of the half) and am planning on going for C2C that year either way! :scratchchin: I gotta' admit that I find the idea of doing my first full @ Disney fitting & appealing since wanting a Mouse medal is why I started running in the first place. :thumbsup2:

Roz- Sorry to hear about the liquidity problems for Santa, but I certainly do know the feeling from time to time. "Reality Bites" comes to mind, although I don't recall ever actually watching it- I think it was either a movie or TV show... :confused24:

CN- Congrats only "only" a sinus infection ;) and I was going to vote but they want me to verify an e-mail that was sent to my home address (not really supposed to check that from work)- grrrrrr..... Hopefully I'll remember later! :silly:

nono

11-02-2010, 01:35 PM

but I wouldn't mind having another pair of running tights, maybe the CWX winter ones too! :goodvibes:

You guys have winter?? :poke: :D

Rozzie

11-02-2010, 02:32 PM

Beth, I have 2 pairs of CWX's. Let me tell you, they worked for me. I was in such bad shape last year for New Orleans, I was hanging by a thread on my hip. I got the hip stability ones that specialize in flexors and ITB and did not have one pinch of pain the entire marathon. Granted I was in therapy 3x a week and doing yoga every moment awake, and also had backed off lots of mileage. BUT to me they were a life saver. Mr Roz likes his as a recovery and a lot of times will throw his on under his dress pants for work and wear them for recovery. They do seem to help with recovery, or just feel better when body is tired. More supported. I say all this to warn you, I am a very mental runner. Even though it might not exactly be physically helping, but mentally just knowing I am doing something extra special for that area seems to help me deal with "issues". That's why I also have about 30 feet of KT tape and 3 pairs of CEP compression sleeves to boot. :D

Will vote tonight Beth, I have to go back out in rain to vote for the tallest of the midgets. Crazy day and totally forgot to stop by voting center. :oweye:

DisneyGeek

11-02-2010, 02:45 PM

I am a very mental runner.

You? :confused24: Mental? :confused: Nahhhhhhhhhhhh.... ;)

Of course, consider the source of that comment! :silly:

DisneyGeek

11-02-2010, 05:14 PM

CN- Happy to say "Thank you! Your vote for "990 Square" has been entered." :D

A few more bites of Chinese take out :eating: and off to church for Praise Team rehearsal! :silly:

Rozzie

11-02-2010, 05:23 PM

You? :confused24: Mental? :confused: Nahhhhhhhhhhhh.... ;)

Of course, consider the source of that comment! :silly:

Takes one to know one! :grin:

cloudnut220

11-02-2010, 05:50 PM

Rozzie

11-03-2010, 04:48 AM

DG-Thanks for voting!

Just got home from real voting after the gym. I did some of the yogatic yoga on youtube tonight at the gym, and it seems to have loosened me up.

I will have to contemplate the CWX tights if I decide to buy long tights. I actually ran outside last night in 40 degree temps in short shorts and it wasn't too bad. But it would be nice to have some extra support!

I voted!! :) Oh and for state elections too. :D I wear shorts in 40 degree temps with longs sleeve tech shirt, and gloves. I usually don't break out the tights until it hits the 32 degree mark. (mental game again) Actually for the 10K this weekend it will be 40 at the start, and I am just wearing shorts, gloves, singlet and arm sleeves.

cloudnut220

11-03-2010, 05:05 AM

Roz-It gets to be 32? in Alabama? ;)

I don't want to rush into cold weather gear, because then what will I wear when it gets REALLY cold. I saw a guy running last night in tights, high socks, a ski mask AND an ear warmer, and thick gloves. I wanted to shout "DUDE, if you're cold now, it's only going to get worse!"

I hope it stays cold for my 10k next weekend. I run so much better when it's cold.

withdisneyspirit

11-03-2010, 05:12 AM

You guys have winter?? :poke: :D

Roz-It gets to be 32? in Alabama? ;)

I don't want to rush into cold weather gear, because then what will I wear when it gets REALLY cold. I saw a guy running last night in tights, high socks, a ski mask AND an ear warmer, and thick gloves. I wanted to shout "DUDE, if you're cold now, it's only going to get worse!"

I hope it stays cold for my 10k next weekend. I run so much better when it's cold.

Beth, that guy must be from Alabama, LOL!! :rotfl2: But seriously, nono,it will drop to freezing this weekend here in Birmingham; I believe overnight Friday forecast is 31. And remember, Peacocks, if you run with me, it will always look like I am dressed for winter :confused24: I have to stay covered from the sun regardless of temps. Heat gear in the summer - cold gear in the winter!

Rozzie, I can begin the complaints officially because I voted in the election too :D

cloudnut220

11-03-2010, 05:19 AM

Beth, that guy must be from Alabama, LOL!! :rotfl2:

I love going to Florida in December, when it's been much colder at home and it's mid-50s in FL. The Floridians are always dressed like they're in the arctic, and it CRACKS ME UP!

DisneyGeek

11-03-2010, 08:05 AM

I love visiting FL in Feb.-ish when DW & I are in shorts (or at least I used to be...) and they are wearing parkas! :rotfl2:

We had a lot of frost on the ground this morning. Not sure how much more outside running I'll be doing with the whole asthma thing. I did buy a balaclava from Wally-World a few weeks ago to try an experiment with; we'll see. I also own a pair of generic tech tights and at least two long sleeve tech shirts, headband thingy, light gloves dedicated for running and getting sweated up w/o affecting my "normal" outerwear for the rest of the day... :D I think I used the tights twice last year and was fairly miserable both times. :grin:

For better or worse I've started become more of a freeze baby for general activities [Light gloves in the 50s! :scared07:] the last year or so; I blame losing 80ish pounds! ;) Then again, I didn't run at all before that so I don't have too much of a baseline for exercise (other than SCUBA diving). Closest I can come is "couldn't really breath after 5 minutes of shoveling snow" and sometimes brisk walking across campus back in my college days to try and not be late for a class would trigger an attack, etc. :silly:

nono

11-03-2010, 11:12 AM

I love visiting FL in Feb.-ish when DW & I are in shorts (or at least I used to be...) and they are wearing parkas! :rotfl2:

Hey, Rozzie and I have been one of "they". ;) Freaking wind chill across Epcot's Lake....I almos asked for the margaritas to be heated!

Lisa, you know I just couldn't leave a line like that lying about! :p

20 miler coming up as soon as I'm done with school today. It's my last one of the cycle before the Philadelphia Marathon. FINALLY, taper is coming (sort of -- I have 2 more 9 milers this week and a 10K race. Some taper...:rolleyes:)

Rozzie

11-03-2010, 11:53 AM

Okay, I have you know there are some people on this thread that ran in SINGLE digit wind chill @ WDW in Jan last year. Its funny, I am very cold natured unless I am running--then I BURN up quick. Oh and yes we do have winter here, just no insane snow. There will be a whole month of runs in 20-30 degree temps. I know, nothing like y'all have. I couldn't survive up north, that is for sure.

DG, gloves in 50 degree weather?? OH my....what would you have done in the driving rain storm this morning for interval workout? Hahaha!!!
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DisneyGeek

11-03-2010, 11:56 AM

Well, maybe mid 40s... But I think it was supposedly 52 when I went for a walk last Thursday afternoon and my hands felt cold! ;)

Rozzie

11-03-2010, 02:52 PM

Hey, looks like there is several of us doing 10Ks coming up. Who is doing what? :listen:

Mr. Roz and I are doing Senior Bowl Charity Run 10K this Sat. It's the second biggest race Mobile puts on, and there will be about 2000 runners. It's a fun race, good flat course, and beer and bands at the end. Long sleeve shirt too. All this for $15. :) Goals? We have some big goals. I really want to hit a sub 48:00ish ( Sub 47:30 has been written on the fridge for 3 months-that might be hard) We shall see..

cloudnut220

11-03-2010, 03:44 PM

My 10k is on Sunday November 14. It's on the tidal basin near the Lincoln Memorial, so it should be nice. Since this is my first race at the 10k distance, my first goal is to finish. Second goal is to run as much as possible--I would love to run the whole thing. Third goal is probably a long shot, but I would love to break an hour.

Now after saying all that, I'm switching up my schedule to rest tonight and run tomorrow. Had an all around crappy day and just need a night off.

cloudnut220

11-03-2010, 03:52 PM

ps-my left hip hurts, and in my sour mood i'm trying to convince myself it's serious. sometimes I really am my own worst enemy. :(

Rozzie

11-04-2010, 04:48 AM

Beth, yoga yoga yoga. Don't run today. Google "hip Flexor" yoga poses. I especially like the pigeon pose and happy baby (or joyful baby) for flexor issues. Don't worry, female hips get cranky and usually we can always make them happy with just paying attention to them for a few days. :hug1:

This will get you started. This is a great pose and it works!
YouTube - Sun Salutation Yoga Positions : Sun Salutation Yoga: Hip Flexor Stretch

withdisneyspirit

11-04-2010, 06:24 AM

Okay, I have you know there are some people on this thread that ran in SINGLE digit wind chill @ WDW in Jan last year.
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Yes, sleet and snow in the Half and iced over water cups in the Full - happy times :rolleyes: :w00t:

DisneyGeek

11-04-2010, 01:59 PM

Rozes- GL with the rice & goals! :thumbsup2:

CN- Hope the hip feels better soon, stop being your own enemy, and have a great 10k!!! :fingerscrossed:

Roz (again)- So if yoga works for female hips, what does the trick male knees? My left one is continuing to bother me on and off. Thankfully more off than on, but I do sometimes wonder if I should see a doc about it. My health insurance will be changing the 1st of the year, and from general descriptions I think my coverage is probably a lot better now than it will be then... :boohoohoo: I think I'm going to ask my dad his opinion when i see them for dinner Sunday night. :idea:

Got in from a walk (aprx. 1.5 miles out & back; up a hill near to the office then back down it- took 28:42.73 per stopwatch [Garmin is at home but I measured the distance once with it as about 1.49 miles]) about 20 minutes ago. Yahoo says it is supposedly 52 degrees now in the city we border- yet I wore gloves & a semi-heavy coat & ears were cold under my ball cap. Now if I had been running I would have been a LOT warmer of course, but I'm afraid my previous post about temperature sensitivity may have been correct! :tomato:

No races planned for the 'Geek until April; not registered for anything at all yet...

cloudnut220

11-04-2010, 02:22 PM

My hip does feel better today--I think the rest did it good! And I'm just in a better frame of mind, stopped beating myself up. I have a new job at work and I'm not as comfortable as I used to be, and I think I was beating myself up because of that too.

I think I might be getting to be "into" races...just registered for a 5k thanksgiving Saturday! And I'm looking into a spring half. I was really, really close to registering for the National Half Marathon, until I realized it has a hill climb from mile 4 to mile 8. That seems a bit much, right?

Rozzie

11-04-2010, 03:22 PM

DG, knee problems are almost a sign of weak quads and stability muscles around the knee, hip and pelvic area. What fixes that? Uhh yoga. ;) Lunges lunges and more lunges. Also in my Adv Marathoning exercises they have us do squats to prevent knee injuries, 2x 20 with a weight (I use 10lb, Coach Hardarse uses 20lb). We do this once time a week, with yoga class 1x a week, and then about 15 min of yoga after every run. On the squats--Make sure you get low, yet not coming forward over your knee. Also Matt Fitzgearald in Brain Training book had you do single leg squats to build up stability muscles around knee to prevent runners knee.

Remember, a ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. :) (is that the saying? :scratchchin: )

I beg all of you: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't do like I did last year and neglect all these important things. Don't make me go back a few hundred pages and resurrect my months of injury after injury posts. :blush:

DisneyGeek

11-04-2010, 08:09 PM

Roz- I'm shocked & amazed you recommended yoga! :rotfl2: I'll have to look into it some more. Lunges, huh? :scratchchin:

Besides my walk earlier I did 30 minutes on the hamster torture device, run 6 walk 1. :D

Registration for the Cleveland 10 miler opens tomorrow!

As of tonight my friend Jim, E, and my brother & sil are in for the Akron Marathon Team Relay! :cheerleader: I've got a full team roster filled out. :silly: Captain Geek just may be on a roll!!! :thumbsup2:

Question is, what team name should I use? :confused: If the others on the group don't have another idea, would anyone here object to me calling us, very originally I might add, "Team Peacock"? :confused24:

nono

11-05-2010, 04:22 AM

If the others on the group don't have another idea, would anyone here object to me calling us, very originally I might add, "Team Peacock"? :confused24:

Doesn't bother me!

But, run fast, ok? :p

Rozzie

11-05-2010, 04:46 AM

Happy Birthday Nono! :biggulp:

cloudnut220

11-05-2010, 05:53 AM

Happy birthday nono!

athenna

11-05-2010, 07:17 AM

Happy Birthday, nono! We can celebrate it in 4 weeks;)

withdisneyspirit

11-05-2010, 07:19 AM

Its your birthday, nono! Make the most of it!!!!!!!!!!! :D

nono

11-05-2010, 08:02 AM

Its your birthday, nono! Make the most of it!!!!!!!!!!! :D

Thanks all. It looks like I'll be doing 9 miles in the rain. Not bad for a chick in her late 40s. ;)

cloudnut220

11-05-2010, 08:11 AM

Thanks all. It looks like I'll be doing 9 miles in the rain. Not bad for a chick in her late 40s. ;)

Not bad at all...especially since I'm a chick in my late 20s and I was too chicken to run in the rain yesterday! But don't worry...the sun is here now, and I hear a rumor it's on it's way towards you!

Instead of running in the rain I did 4.5 miles on the mill and ran the whole thing! yippeee! I was feeling really good about myself running at 6.2 until a girl got on the TM next to me and cranked it up to 10. I actually caught myself thinking "that's what Roz must look like on the TM!" ;)

nono

11-05-2010, 11:12 AM

My schedule had a break in it, so Renee and I sneaked out for 2 miles :D...now only 7 to go later...I sure hope cloud's sun gets over this way! Not so much for me, but I could do without the wet dog smell...

mickeyndvcfan

11-05-2010, 11:52 AM

HAPPY BIRTHDAY NONO!!!

:hbday::party1::hbsong::shots::hbleft:

DisneyGeek

11-05-2010, 04:36 PM

Happy BD nono! :cheerleader:

I'll try and run fast- goal I'm considering is to maybe be able to pull off 9 minute pace running solidly. Not sure if that's a pipe dream or not, but it's worth considering.

CN- I don't want to know what I look like when I hit 10 MPH on our 'mill (it's max) for my 1 min. sprint at the end of a torture session! :scared07:

BTW- it is currently 35 degrees and snowing here, so rain doesn't sound so bad! :p

Off to see some friends (& hopefully print my AFM pic there! ;))- later gang & have a great weekend!

Rozzie

11-05-2010, 05:43 PM

I was feeling really good about myself running at 6.2 until a girl got on the TM next to me and cranked it up to 10. I actually caught myself thinking "that's what Roz must look like on the TM!" ;)

Pleaaaaaazzze. I suck on the TM. I can barely catch a stride. It actually hurts my hips more to do any type of speedwork on TM. I save it only for emergency's. (BLT training sessions LOL)

Oh DG, I thought about you this morning. It was 38 degrees this morning and I still had on shorts and short sleeve. ;) Granted I did have my new arm sleeves (yes I caved and ordered them), headsweat beanie and gloves on. I think tomorrow though I am going with shorts, singlet, gloves and arm warmers. Got hot in the beanie and it was only 3 miles. I agree with Nono, RUN FAST!!!!!!!!!

Nono, get anything good for your bday? I mean running wise. :D

MatterhornMiss

11-05-2010, 07:05 PM

Happy Birthday, NONO!!!

My brain feels like it is already on taper mode this week. I have been preoccupied by just about everything but the race (just over 3 weeks away!!!). I guess that's not a bad thing, though. I'm not stressing about running, so that's a positive.

I don't think I shared that I had a really good experience at the sports med doc last week. So I was thankful to get a clean bill of health, even with all the pain. BTW, I have now heard from him, my massage therapist, the ART guy last spring, and an article in Running Times magazine that I need to be working on strengthening my hips. Both the MD and the therapist said gluteus medius in particular. Both the MD and the ART said I need to work on strengthening really even more than stretching. So I have been doing leg raises every day.

I had a really good 3 mile run today in the cold northern wind and low 40 degree temps. I just love running in my tights. Tomorrow it is supposed to be in the 40s again, but at least sun is forcast. I have my big 20 miler to knock out--then it's TAPER TIME!!!!!

Super Exciting--the launch for the Space Shuttle Discovery has now been postponed until Nov 30! We have tix for MVMCP that night, so I won't be able to watch it, but I was so hoping that the launch would be postponed from this week till at least the race so I can see it on the launch pad! I don't think the course goes by it, but the expo is at the Kennedy Space Center!

Oh, and nono, congrats on Boston. WooHoo!

Jen--how are you holding up?

MatterhornMiss

11-05-2010, 07:09 PM

Wait--the shuttle is scheduled for a 4:05 am launch on the 30th. I don't think I have plans for then!

cloudnut220

11-05-2010, 08:42 PM

MM-If it's clear you should be able to see the shuttle from WDW. We saw it once in the middle of the day. everyone just stopped and stared!

DisneyGeek

11-05-2010, 10:57 PM

Awesome on the shuttle MM!!! :thumbsup2:

We did indeed have snow sticking to my car when we left. Bob hasn't registered for the Warrior Dash yet; I'm waiting for he & his wife to pick a cabin and me to request the time off from work before I register just to be on the safe side...

I did, however, just get done registering for the Cleveland 10 Miler on April 23rd! :D

withdisneyspirit

11-06-2010, 06:35 AM

What kind of tights are you wearing MM? :scratchchin:

MatterhornMiss

11-06-2010, 06:55 AM

cloudnut220

11-06-2010, 07:00 AM

Good luck with the 20 miler MM! I would wait too...that's too cold!

It's 42 here right now with a 38 windchill. I'm going to try to head out in the next hour though. I need to get out of the house to keep away from the loaf of cinnamon bread I made yesterday. Whenever I have a day off of work it just leads to baking mischief!

athenna

11-06-2010, 07:01 AM

Jen--how are you holding up?

I barely am:( I keep trying to not mentally give up on the OUC, but all I've done this week is 30 min on treadmill ( was supposed to be 60) of 3/2 intervals. Tomorrow is supposed to be 6 miles, no chance:(

I'm depressed about it, I'm cranky about it.

Yes, I've iced, yes I've used the foam roller. No, at this time I am not going to the doctors.

there is about a 1% chance my body is gonna let me do the OUC.

Thanks for asking, though, MM, hope you don't think my attitude was directed at you:hug1:

withdisneyspirit

11-06-2010, 07:21 AM

Brrrrr! It's only 29 degrees out. I think I'll wait until it's at least above freezing before heading out. I hate to have too many layers.

Lisa my favorite tights are actually just some Champion tights I got on clearance at Target. I've tried some more expensive brands but they are my favorite.
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Oh, my favorites are my UnderArmour cold gear tights!! Its 32 degrees here in Birmingham right now - we have our first really cold snap now :scared07:

Have a great run, MM!!

Good luck with the 20 miler MM! I would wait too...that's too cold!

It's 42 here right now with a 38 windchill. I'm going to try to head out in the next hour though. I need to get out of the house to keep away from the loaf of cinnamon bread I made yesterday. Whenever I have a day off of work it just leads to baking mischief!

You sound like me, Beth; baking mischief is right up my alley but then I want to eat it all :eating: :blush:

I barely am:( I keep trying to not mentally give up on the OUC, but all I've done this week is 30 min on treadmill ( was supposed to be 60) of 3/2 intervals. Tomorrow is supposed to be 6 miles, no chance:(

I'm depressed about it, I'm cranky about it.

Yes, I've iced, yes I've used the foam roller. No, at this time I am not going to the doctors.

there is about a 1% chance my body is gonna let me do the OUC.

Thanks for asking, though, MM, hope you don't think my attitude was directed at you:hug1:

It really does seem as though this worst problem originated at the time of your new shoes, Jen! Maybe you should look back at the timing of the purchase vs. the pain?

My advice is to ice at least 3-4 times per day, roll as often as you can stand it and stretch your lower half several times a day for 4-5 days before you attempt to work out again. It would be so good if you could calm your body enough to be able to at least walk the OUC :fingerscrossed:

Don't apologize for this kind of crankiness, Jen; I bet the rest of the Peacock team can totally understand your terrible frustration!!! :hug1:

MatterhornMiss

11-06-2010, 07:37 AM

Don't apologize for this kind of crankiness, Jen; I bet the rest of the Peacock team can totally understand your terrible frustration!!! :hug1:

I know I sure do! I have learned a lot and keep learning from all my injuries and pain. They are hard lessons and I didn't learn them overnight but I think I'm a better runner for them.

We're up to 30 degrees.
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DisneyGeek

11-06-2010, 09:32 AM

Don't apologize for this kind of crankiness, Jen; I bet the rest of the Peacock team can totally understand your terrible frustration!!! :hug1:

Same reaction from Geekdom! Totally understandable and we just want you to get well A!!! :goodvibes:

Currently 34 degrees & actively snowing. Accumulating on grass ans forming slush on pavement. Yeah, um, I plan to wimp out and just go mill today! :silly:

Have a great run MM & GL fighting off the baked goods CN!

cloudnut220

11-06-2010, 09:58 AM

Just got back from an 8.5 miles. I'm eating that big ole slice of cinnamon bread right now, then I'm rolling. I can't really afford to lose any weight, and cinnamon bread counts as refueling, right? ;)

A-feel better!

DG-Is it lake effect snow? As a snow lover, I'm super jealous! Western MD was supposed to get accumulating snow last night.

DisneyGeek

11-06-2010, 11:49 AM

CN- Yes, mostly lake effect, at least in the normal snow belt.

DW was out and she said she saw a classic line where it switches abruptly from snow to rain. There is a band on the east side of Cleveland (where I sort of live) where near the lake it snows a lot, then a bit further south the snow stops (presumably as the air warms from the solid ground and wind patterns change?) then a while past that (where we live now) normal snow happens. I used to live in Willoughby Hills and was in the high snow belt, then going south on 271 to get to work when I'd reach Mayfield Road the snow just STOPS! Cleveland weather... Then again, I know nothing else. I've lived my whole life (including college years) in a handful of Cleveland 'burbs! :thumbsup2:

Abrupt topic change:

Right now I'm moving our surround sound system (which Izzy HATES! :dog5:) out of the living room and into "E's Craftful Spot & home gym" upstairs so I can have more volume from the the DVR & DVDs there to drown out the 'mill... Background: We have an old low end mono TV there (hey, it still works and at least it's color! ;)) and the speaker's peak before wicked distortion is annoyingly week over the 'ellip, but USUALLY tolerable with most source material. However, it just isn't cutting it with some recent DVDs I've grabbed and the 'mill's motor is louder and makes things worse for everything... So rather than buy new toys for up there (I was looking at a relatively small flat panel & surround sound (or at least external amplified speakrs) group from Best Buy), DW suggested my move the existing stuff. It's a low end system that sometimes goes wacky with digital inputs and needs to be power cycled, so I've tossed around upgrading in our lr from time to time anyhow. :grin: So not this free financing sale from BB but maybe next I'll finally buy a shinny new 7.1 model to go with the Blu Ray down here! :rotfl2:

Once I get things operational (I plan leave the speakers on furniture rather than install mounts yet) upstairs I plan to do 63 minutes + WU/CD on the 'mill while I watch Star Trek reruns from BBC off the DVR and hear Picard say "Tea, Earl Gray, Hot" MUCH better than the past few weeks! :silly:

Did I ever mention I'm a Geek? ;)

Rozzie

11-06-2010, 12:19 PM

Jen, hang in there. Injuries happen and they suck when they do. I think almost everyone on here has been sidelined at least once. I know today at race I talked to several runner friends of ours in street clothes that are sidelined. I DO think that active recovery is best. Complete rest doesn't help the situation or your frustration. Yoga, anything that you can do, do. :hug1:

Lisa, I will find that CWX tight and link it here. Forgot I was supposed to do that. :blush:

Race went great this morning. Nice cold weather (for us), high 30s. Just wore shorts and singlet and gloves. 8 min PR, 45:13. Got 3rd in my AG too, which was a absolute shock. Mr Roz had a PR too, 43:21. I think the best part of the day was my old coach calling the finish line, and yelling into microphone when he saw me, so excited. Yelling "arms, arms!!" What he always used to yell at me during track sprints. I know this is bad, but I like to be able to perform well with him watching. Kinda like, now that I dropped you, look at me now! I know, Lord forgive me for my pettiness.

My piriformis started hurting bad today in race, so it's back to my Sports Doc for that. Got to slay that dragon before he reaches the surface. :fingerscrossed:

cloudnut220

11-06-2010, 02:10 PM

Yeah Roz! You are just burning through those PRs recently! :cheerleader:

withdisneyspirit

11-06-2010, 04:56 PM

MatterhornMiss

11-06-2010, 06:24 PM

20 Miler done. I may have actually done closer to 21 miles I don't know. My short runs this week went well without all my knee braces and ankle wrapping so I decided to go without for this run. That was probably a mistake. Oh well. At least I know I guess. Anyway I had to walk half -- the entire second half -- because my ITB became weak to the point my knee started buckling. I didn't know what to do. Whether I should've or not I decided to keep going but only walked. I stopped twice to stretch and once to do leg lifts. I figured I wasn't going to just quit during the race and wanted to be prepared to walk the thing if need be. Plus I really didn't have much choice. I probably could've cut out 2.5 miles but to get home I'd still had to go 5 miles one way or another. At the end my entire body was shaking and felt like jelly. I'm icing the heck out of my ITB now and have various plans for the next few days depending how I feel. My whole lower body feels so beaten -- especially my feet. Thank goodness I am finished with my longest run and have a little while to recover before beating it up again.
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withdisneyspirit

11-07-2010, 05:51 AM

Oh, MM, I am sorry you had such a tough 20 miler. :hug1: I definitely can relate because my first 20 miler was a complete disaster. Especially the last two miles, I literally crawled home to my car and pretty much cried the whole way home trying to drive myself. You got it done and didn't give up - that is the best part! Your body knows it did 20 and if you prepare with your braces, you should be all good for the race. My 20 made me realize that I would have to take some pain medicine partway through but that's just me. Above all, don't let it make you think that every 20 miler you try will be that way. It did not hold true for me for my second marathon - it was much better. Plus, my first marathon went very well too! :goodvibes:

MatterhornMiss

11-07-2010, 06:54 AM

Happy World Running Day! (Is that something we should celebrate?

I won't say my run wasn't hard. And it certainly wasn't pretty. But I don't feel defeated like I have by other runs recently. I'd like to think that is a reflection on how much I am growing as a runner, to be able to face setbacks and make the decision not to let them hold me down. I would've loved to have been able to run more. But that doesn't discount what I accomplished at all. If I have to walk all 26.2 miles that won't take away from the fact I did it.

I also have learned to be more aggressive in my recovery. So, Jen, while injuries are horrible, I am learning from them and they are so improving my mental running game, which I am finding is so much more important than the physical. Anyway this morning I am very stiff but I don't really feel pain so I am thankful for that.

Though I am hoping for rough training runs to equal a better marathon ;)
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jrbdad

11-07-2010, 12:10 PM

You all have room for another poster here?

My abbreviated story:

March of this year, diagnosed as Type 2 Diabetic -- doc says diet & exercise only. MAJOR wake-up call. Start walking, slowly picking up speed, over time begin to alternate light jog, walk -- you get the idea. Lots of support from DW & family, fast forward to today -- lost 70 pounds and have been running for several weeks. Putting in 10 - 20 miles per week. No real plan -- just enjoying being able to do it. Feel better than I've felt in years.

Tweaked my knee yesterday on a 5 mile run -- so I may be down for a few days.

Have this small strange voice in the back of my head that says, "hey -- you need to build up to a half or full marathon." Thinking it may be someone else? Figure it will take me 6 months - a year to get serious about it.

Going to get serious about shoes too -- have an old ankle injury that I think may have contributed to the knee pain.

Anyway -- I'm really impressed by all that you all have accomplished. Great thread.

Rozzie

11-07-2010, 01:41 PM

John, WELCOME!!! What a inspirational story. Mr. Roz also lost almost 70 lbs when he started running. He says all the time his life really started when he started running. I know you must feel the same way. Rest and ice that knee. So glad to have you with us!!

MM, I also cried after my first 20 miler. It was probably the worst pain I ever felt in my life. BUT I will tell you something Lisa told me one night in WDW (she probably doesn't remember this)....that your training runs are always harder (and usually slower) than your race. You put in the distance. The hay is in the barn, now enjoy your taper!!

The weather here is great. Mid 30s this morning for our 10 miler. Legs felt great, piriformis better. Went out to brunch with my mom for her bday and ate close to 10,000 kcal. No more bad eating until OUC. Well, excluding Turkey day. But that's it. I am serious and I want every team member to hold me to it. I hate this fat bloated feeling. To think I weighed my lowest weight ever sat before the 10K. Back on the wagon. Okay, thanks for letting me vent. :blech:

Colorado Belle

11-07-2010, 01:52 PM

Vicarious runner here....first, congrats NONO on Boston (an early Birthday present)...came on to post a big CONGRATS to USA Flannigan #2 NYC Marathon...(#1 snd #3 Kenyan ladies) and to #14 from Ethiopia winning the men's. And to the Chilean miner who finished just minutes ago..What inspiring stories all!

I just found some old tennis shoes with tread on em that fit to take on my trip to PV (not for running for tennis). My tennis shoes not only had no tread but also no sole (but plenty of soul) and lots of holes. (The new ones I tried to break in cost me my big toenail and second toenail..yikes)

So I can't promise running, but lots of beach walking and tennis and volleyball and body surfing and maybe a little 15minute mile jogging...for the next almost month.

Rozzie

11-07-2010, 01:59 PM

Yes the NYC Marathon was awesome this morning!! Not too shabby on Flanagan's first attempt hey? Holy Moly, I can't imagine doing a mile at that pace. The big question remains....

Nono, when are we jumping in the lottery? :listen:

mickeyndvcfan

11-07-2010, 02:49 PM

CONGRATS TO THE ROZZIES AGAIN!!!! :cheerleader:

Well, got my 6 miles done today.....10 miles next weekend...then taper:yahoo:
So, after our half in Dec. do we just go into taper mode for training for Disney in Jan. I can't believe that I actually signed up for 2 halfs a month apart. :silly:

Rozzie

11-07-2010, 03:59 PM

Mama Gail, I would just stay in a "holding" pattern. If there are 3 weekends between do a 8 mile LR, 10 Mile LR, and a 6 mile LR. Then do some stuff during the week.

MatterhornMiss

11-07-2010, 04:47 PM

Welcome to the lair, jrbdad!

cloudnut--Gee, it must be nice to be able to say "I can't afford to lose any weight." Because I can't afford to gain any weight, and yet, since F&W I have gained 3 lbs. Ugh. It has been so hard not to just over eat recently.

Roz--I know I'm not nono, but I've been thinking about entering the lottery in 2012. Next year I'm thinking of just taking it easier, probably just the Akron full before the Goofy, with some halfs thrown in. I don't know. I feel silly committing myself to various full marathons not having even finished my first yet. But I've had my sights on New York since before I finished my first half. And my sister, who swore she would never run another full after doing her first (and to date, only) a few years ago, actually said, "I might do that one."

You talk about being good, diet-wise, before the OUC, Roz. I'm trying to stick to the no alcohol before the full (I was inspired by yours and nono's maybe not so successful ;) attempts before the Princess). So I'm hoping we'll have some at the cookout. I'll bring the Jack!

I have to admit, I was a bit disappointed to find I'd only run 20.25 miles yesterday. I really thought I did closer to 21. Oh well. I guess my time will come soon enough. I put on my pair of old Asics I wear around for comfort and, YOUCH! I think my foot is bruised from the laces, and/or the pounding yesterday. And I didn't even tie them as tightly as I normally do on runs (I hate for my shoes to slide around at all on my feet).

Just found this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40010281/ns/health-fitness . It even has nono's coconut water listed. I have certainly used chocolate milk as a post-race recovery drink.

mickeyndvcfan

11-07-2010, 05:33 PM

Mama Gail, I would just stay in a "holding" pattern. If there are 3 weekends between do a 8 mile LR, 10 Mile LR, and a 6 mile LR. Then do some stuff during the week.

OK coach roz.....:fingerscrossed: that I don't get another monster blister!

withdisneyspirit

11-07-2010, 07:08 PM

If it were me doing two Half's in a month with three weeks between, I would do a 5, a 10 miler and then a 6 miler. The 5 miler would give your body a bit more rest, Gail. I have even done a 5 mile, 8 miler and then a 6 miler and been great for the next Half :goodvibes: I have a bit of experience since I qualified for Half Maniac status :grin: Or maybe, I just say this from the vantage point of being 50 with joints that need to be babied sometimes :rotfl2:

I loved the article, MM - thanks for posting it. I am seriously thinking of adding a little pickle juice into my running repertoire. I have cramping problems and lose a LOT of salt while running...

Rozzie

11-07-2010, 07:11 PM

MM, I haven't had any beer in a few weeks, did cave and got a Italian Margartia @ OG Sat night. No more beer or alcohol for me until OUC. Besides, it makes it a special treat then to have it. :)

Going to go to bed early tonight. Think I am getting something. Lowgrade fever, sore throat. I am okay with the timing, better now than in 3 weeks!

Mama Gail, NO Bllisters allowed!! :fingerscrossed:

cloudnut220

11-07-2010, 07:12 PM

welcome jrbdad!

MM-I'm pretty lucky to have the diet exercise thing figured out (for now) but to be honest, I had an eating disorder for years and I was underweight (and very sick because of it) so it's good for me to be at a healthier, happier and heavier weight. I do really try to be "good" though because I've got the family history of diabetes and heart disease, and I'm watching both of my parents start to struggle with it in their 50s :(

So rolling out saved me yesterday after my 8.5 miles. I was really tight but then rolled twice, so I was able to dance the night away at a wedding last night! :D

cloudnut220

11-07-2010, 07:13 PM

DisneyGeek

11-07-2010, 11:57 PM

MM- Glad you finished and sorry to read about Saturday's run's difficulties- but I LOVE the attitude you are responding with! Thanks for sharing it. :thumbsup2:

As for the article; I glanced at it and that must be my problem lately! For the past month or two I haven't been having my normal ~15 oz. glass of pickle juice each morning after I exercise! I need to start back up. :biggulp: To be honest, I have been craving the briny little buggers for a while now just need to break out the vegetable juicer! :D DW bought me the next batch of pickles (I usually process two one gallon jars of Vlassic Kosher Dills along with a small jar of mild banana peppers for a little extra kick) a while back but have been too lazy to grab the machine and reduce them to drinkable form. :rotfl2:

jrbdad- Welcome!

Roz- Sorry you are sick; I'm afraid we can relate though. DW has a head thing (she thinks allergies but isn't sure and slept over half the day Sunday!) and I have sudden onset of a GI bug. E-mailed my boss a few minutes ago that I won't be in the office Monday. Not sure if I'll try and work a half day from home or not.

Backing up a little- I woke E up when I got home after my swim today (Yesterday? Well, Sunday :grin:) and she felt OK to go to dinner, so I saw my parents, bro, and grandma as planned. Back @ my parents house I started asking and dad & bro think my knee/hip pain is ITB; so I'm joining that Peacock 'club'! :silly: Before declaring that my problem, we talked about some stretching, partial squats (starting w/o added weight though) and maybe leg lifts with someone on the top of my foot. Dad said that worked wonders for him after his knee surgeries. He isn't big on lunges though; feels if you go too far and/or too fast you can re-injure things rather than help. I'm clumsy & bad @ choreography type stuff, so I think I may pass on that opportunity... ;)

Time to head back to bed and see if I can stay out of the bathroom for more than a hour straight! :blech: :fingerscrossed:

nono

11-08-2010, 04:50 AM

Nono, get anything good for your bday? I mean running wise. :D

Hmmm. Well, maybe in a weird way, I did. I ended up getting a DNS for the Bridge Run I was scheduled to do yesterday. More on that later when I can make it funny enough. :rolleyes:

On a totally different subject, all I can say is THANK GOODNESS we're back on normal time. Can we please fire every member of congress next time they think they should have any rights to changing around daylight's savings time??????? And can we please go back to the one we had for years and years and years and years (like the whole 60s, 70s) if we have to have it at all???

nono

11-08-2010, 04:57 AM

Welcome John! Post often, esp. if you want to complain. It'll make Athenna feel better! :D

(Just teasing Jen because she hasn't posted her good news here yet!)

Roz, re: NYC. Why do the lottery? Let's just qualify. :) First attempt for you: OUC. First attempt for me, the half I have scheduled in Feb. I can't attempt at OUC because it's 13 days after Philadelphia...

cloudnut220

11-08-2010, 05:18 AM

The lottery for the 2011 NYC Marathon opens today at noon and goes through early April. I've actually thought about entering because it would be fun to do one of the big marathons. But we'll see!

jrbdad

11-08-2010, 05:27 AM

Any advice for a newbie runner -- dreaming of a half or full marathon?

Assuming, of course, that my stupid knee heals quickly :mad:.

withdisneyspirit

11-08-2010, 05:35 AM

I was impressed with your story, John, and how far you've come already!! Congrats and welcome to the Peacocks!! :goodvibes: As far as advice, stick with us, you will be doing endurance races in no time!! :yahoo: Some of us use the Marathoning for Mortals book by John Bingham; it has been a helpful book for me and I use the training plans since they are reasonable for someone with my particular health challenges too. OUr two high class coaches are nono and Rozzie so this is a great place to ask questions and get support. :)

Oh, and Al Roker is wearing his NYC marathon medal on the Weather Channel this morning :D

Feel better soon to both DG and Rozzie :fingerscrossed: :hug1:

athenna

11-08-2010, 06:47 AM

Oh, nono:grin: You know I'd be back to tell my story!

First off, welcome John! So glad to have you join us:D

ok for anyone that wants to know how my day went yesterday, here goes. You know there is always a story with me:rotfl2:
Went to the track w/no expectations that I could do anything at all let alone 6 miles. Started with a 3/2 interval, but then decided leg was more comfortable at 3/1, about 1.5 mls in I thought, ''oh no, not again, what the heck have I done to deserve this:( and I was mad:mad:'' My leg hurt and I didn't think I'd make it 2 miles, but I didn't want to give up, so I kept going, and then suddenly my leg didn't hurt anymore:w00t: Maybe the pain was just a tightening:confused: and it needed to be loosened up?? Felt fine and srarted intervals again:thumbsup2: Then at 3.6 miles my right knee gave out:( Did the quad exercises Nono & Roz taught me, but thought I'd have to pack it in for the day. But no! The exercises worked and off I went again, and I the intervals all the rest of the way until I did my 6 miles:cheerleader:
Came home and iced, did the roller a few hours later. Roz advised me should roll first before ice, so that's what I've got to do today, and downward dog yoga post to stretch it out.
Assuming all goes well, I can start week 11 tomorrow.

Way to go Gail on your 6 miles!:cheerleader:

athenna

11-08-2010, 06:48 AM

Any advice for a newbie runner -- dreaming of a half or full marathon?

Assuming, of course, that my stupid knee heals quickly :mad:.

In my opinion, for whatever that's worth:grin: is to start with doing maybe a local 5k, if you haven't already, etc, then work up to a half, and then work up to a full....Thats what I think, but I'm sure the experts will chime in soon:)

jrbdad

11-08-2010, 07:01 AM

jrbdad

11-08-2010, 07:03 AM

I probably do need a "plan."
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DisneyGeek

11-08-2010, 07:05 AM

jrbdad- Build your total training distance up slowly and listen to Rozzie & nono! :D I did my first half this past Sept. during the Air Force Marathon weekend in Datyon, OH. Gail (half), Rozzie, & Mr. Roz (both full) were also there; we have some pics floating around of the 4 of us at the race... :silly:

Assuming all goes well, I can start week 11 tomorrow.

AWESOME news! Glad things are going better finally!!! :goodvibes: Now the think I'm really curious about- was nono using ESP or did you have something posted elsewhere (Facebook?) saying how you did?;)

I'm not up to par but at least I got several hours of sleep straight. I actually went to bed early last night because I was exhausted but not feeling sick yet. Maybe now I need some Saltine crackers and Nintendo... :scratchchin:

DisneyGeek

11-08-2010, 07:31 AM

I've been averaging 4.5 miles 3 or 4 times per week at an average pace of 9:30/mile. Fastest mile has been his south of 8 and fastest 5K at 28 minutes. I don't even know if those are respectabl

Starting ANYTHING is good. Finishing it is respectable. FWIW- You are faster than me- someday I hope to break a 30 minute 5k... I've done that a couple times in training but my race 5k PR currently stands at 31:20.67 chip time.

nono

11-08-2010, 08:25 AM

Thanks for the tip on the book.

Haven't run in any kind of race. I keep track of my runs via the Nike+ GPS. Then try to beat my PRs. I've been averaging 4.5 miles 3 or 4 times per week at an average pace of 9:30/mile. Fastest mile has been his south of 8 and fastest 5K at 28 minutes. I don't even know if those are respectable - but they make me feel good :). Considering the slug I was - I like it. I'm now about 5 pounds from my "ideal" weight. Of course, now folks tell me I'm too skinny - huh? Anyway, I really appreciate the ideas.

Got a subscription to "Runner's World" and can't put it down when it comes in.
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OK, skip Marathoning for Mortals. You aren't mortal with those times! :thumbsup2: Try something like Brad Hudson's Running Faster. It has plans in the back. You already have a great start.... :woohoodance:

I'm with Athenna. Much better to get used to a race climate at 5Ks, 5 milers, and such. After building a base of a 1/2 marathon or two, then reach for the marathon distance. Everyone has a different favorite spot. My husband is a 10K to 10 miler. I would rather run a marathon than a 5K (I really think 5Ks are the hardest). You'll find yours simply by trying them out. :)

nono

11-08-2010, 08:26 AM

Now the think I'm really curious about- was nono using ESP or did you have something posted elsewhere (Facebook?) saying how you did?;)

If we tell you, we'd have to kill you. :eek:

jrbdad

11-08-2010, 09:05 AM

Nono- thx for the kind comments. I feel less than mortal as I sit at my desk with my knee wrapped with a cold compress. Oh well - no one said 44 would be an easy age.

My DS9 said the other day, "Daddy, you were booking it."

My teenage boys and my DW both say that they like my obsession with Disney better than running. ;)
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athenna

11-08-2010, 10:35 AM

If we tell you, we'd have to kill you. :eek:

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:

Rozzie

11-08-2010, 11:01 AM

John I think you have gotten some great advice. I say skip the mortals book too, you seem to have knack for speed. Also agree on slowly working your way up. Do some local 5ks, then 10ks, then maybe a HM next year. You will be healthier and enjoy nrunning more if u let your body slowly build up.

I am feeling better today! Rest day today, going to crank back up in morning. Its been a fun day, kicked a dr's arse I work with. He always used to give a hard time about how slow I was. Good times!
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DisneyGeek

11-08-2010, 11:55 AM

If we tell you, we'd have to kill you. :eek:

:scared07: Please do NOT tell me than! ;)

Roz- Glad you are feeling better & congrats with the Dr.!

I'm still feeling a little blah but I'm doing enough better that although I'm going to skip crunches (since the abdominal area is where the trouble lies! :grin: Think of that "tummy trouble" line a kid says for some med commercial... :rolleye11:) I AM going to try for 30 minutes on the ellip and see how it goes. Worst case = I stop, right? :silly:

jrbdad

11-08-2010, 01:54 PM

Found both books on eBay - will look at later at home rather than via phone.

Just to show my level of OCD - went to our small town library at lunch and checked out "Complete Book of Running & Fitness." It is a 12 year old copy though.

Looks like it advocates more shorter runs than what I've been doing. If I'm an "Advanced Beginner."

I understand - patience, patience.

You all have motivated me to look for a 5K to enter (once knee heals). Then build up to a 10K.

Thank you!
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Rozzie

11-08-2010, 01:58 PM

Lisa, here is the site and a good page for them to help you. I have the Stablilyx 3/4 tights and LOVE them for knee issues. Since my knee issue is on the back burner and more hip now, might go with a other pair for this winter. Of course I have now jinxed myself with a entire season of knee issues.

http://cw-x.com/ExploreProducts.aspx?gender=womens&product=tights&selector=true

Also Lisa, been meaning to ask you--how did your stride change? Have you gone "chi"? ;) (Have I already asked you this? If so please forgive me, I forgot what you said...)

ETA: Web page says for me to stick with Stablilyx for hip flexor too. Cool! Wish my mediums still fit...$$$

cloudnut220

11-08-2010, 06:34 PM

Hmm...I can get CWX tights on amazon...and if I order them now, they could be here for my run on Wednesday!

Rozzie

11-08-2010, 07:00 PM

beth, try running warehouse.com for better deal. Use code "roted" under team discounts for additional 15 percent off. 2 day free shipping, free returns.
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Rozzie

11-09-2010, 04:45 AM

Roz, re: NYC. Why do the lottery? Let's just qualify. :) First attempt for you: OUC. First attempt for me, the half I have scheduled in Feb. I can't attempt at OUC because it's 13 days after Philadelphia...

What is the qualifying time? 1:40? (:eek:)

withdisneyspirit

11-09-2010, 05:40 AM

Hmm...I can get CWX tights on amazon...and if I order them now, they could be here for my run on Wednesday!

beth, try running warehouse.com for better deal. Use code "roted" under team discounts for additional 15 percent off. 2 day free shipping, free returns.
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Actually, I just worked the difference and Amazon is definitely cheaper. I priced CW-X Stabilyx Insulator tights and with the roted discount, the running warehouse was $97.75 and at Amazon, they are $78.71. I do keep forgetting about the discount though, it is pretty awesome and I like the free returns!

athenna

11-09-2010, 05:59 AM

Ok, now I need ankle advice..They hurt like heck since my 6 miler on Sunday. I'm still not quite right, it shouldn't be taking me this long to recover from 6 miles..Guess I can't start week 11 yet...Frustration:mad:

mickeyndvcfan

11-09-2010, 09:46 AM

athenna

11-09-2010, 10:34 AM

No, I changed them, these are different ones.

DisneyGeek

11-09-2010, 11:02 AM

jrbdad- Glad you are motivated & moving into races! :thumbsup2:

A- GL with the ankles; sorry you aren't winning at much lately it seems... It'll get better!!! :goodvibes:

FYI, I've started doing some ITB stretches for the left leg and partial squats the last two days. I did 21 squats on my right (uninjured) leg and 10 with a more limited range of motion on my left. Which is better- make the right leg work to try and prevent issues there -or- do the same thing on the right as the left to try and keep them balanced? :confused24: I'm NOT doing the stretching for the right side either; should I be? :scratchchin: I suppose I could also ask my dad for those clarifications... :eek:

Anywho, knocked out 30 min. on the mill this morning and things felt pretty good all in all. Strange thing is that I STILL haven't noticed Jean Luc order tea in the last few ST:TNG reruns I've watched. :biggulp: However, I did make myself a decaf cup of it last night to compensate... :rotfl2:

Incidentally- I'm alternating my NB 769 and (newer) pair of Asics GT-2140 [my first 2140s have been fully retired for a while now! :grin:] shoes for the hamster torture sessions; both pairs of shoes SEEM fine. Since I started having problems while running outside in my other shoes (Mizunos and Brooks) I don't think footwear or the TM are the direct causes.

PoohsPal

11-09-2010, 11:27 AM

A - :hug1::hug1:

John - I'm with Lisa on Marathoning for Mortals. EVen if you are above those plans, it is:

1. Inspirational and will show you how you can do it. Got dh adn I from 0 to fulli n ~ 10 months.

2. Good for discussion on over training. Especially for your first time, you do not want to over train.

3. Good for injury discussion.

No matter what route you go, I can't wait ot hear your experience!

OK, Cruise was awesome, but has me way behind here. Plus, my running has sucked. Took way too much time off after Steelhead and slcked at the bgeinnign of marahton trianing. :( It's getting ebtter butnot looking anywhere near a PR year for me. :rolleyes:

mickeyndvcfan

11-09-2010, 11:33 AM

No, I changed them, these are different ones.

Sorry you're having problems with your ankles. :hug1: I don't have any answers for you. Maybe someone else can help with what you can do to help your ankles. Knock on wood, I haven't had any of those problems yet. Just blisters for me.

nono

11-09-2010, 11:33 AM

What is the qualifying time? 1:40? (:eek:)

I think it is 1:37 for you, and 1:44 for me. I'm going for it. :)

Oh, and I got in my last long run before Philadelphia. 18 miles 12 days out. We'll see how that works. :idea:

PoohsPal

11-09-2010, 12:08 PM

Gail - I forgot to tell you. One summer DH and I did ~ 1 half per month. Our LR plans were 5-8-5-10 (or half if we had one). Worked really well! If I didn't have 3 weeks between, I think I would just do two 6-milers fro LRs. HTH!

athenna

11-09-2010, 12:33 PM

Sorry you're having problems with your ankles. :hug1: I don't have any answers for you. Maybe someone else can help with what you can do to help your ankles. Knock on wood, I haven't had any of those problems yet. Just blisters for me.

Thanks, I have no idea why they hurt:confused: I'm gonna test them out on treadmill and see if I can do it.

jrbdad

11-09-2010, 12:50 PM

DisneyGeek-

You mention ITB stretches - I'm wondering if this could be my knee issue? Pain on outside of the knee? The ankle on that leg is unstable due to a prior accident & surgery. I'm wondering if it might all be related? Surgeon gave me an orthotic to keep in my dress shoes (this was five years ago and I was pretty much a slug).

Now, I'm thinking I may need something for my running shoes and maybe need stability or even motion control shoes.

Anyone have any thoughts? Can't get in to see my orthopedic doctor for two weeks. Not sure I can make it that long? Haven't run since Saturday and I'm already having withdrawal :(.

Thanks!
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DisneyGeek

11-09-2010, 01:29 PM

I'm wondering if this could be my knee issue? Pain on outside of the knee?

I'm terrible at describing things like that in writing (that's why it was easier for me to talk to my relatives in person Sunday night than trying for a remote diagnosis!), but it is around my knee above the kneecap and then shops up to my hip. It is the worst as my leg bends and peaks when I'm at a 45 degree angle or so. Once I sit or stand still it clears up for the most part, and having weight on it doesn't matter. Also hurts a little during swimming for me. Luckily it is intermittent...

FYI, my dad is a veteran runner and track + cross country coach, my younger brother the same & currently a nursing student, having his first degree in biology before he went into teaching (& coaching at school) for a few years. he was actually interested in going into physical therapy, but didn't want to get a PhD first just to have a shot at a job... My mom and many other relatives also run or do Tris & such, so by being a noob to running and exercise in general I'm the black sheep of the family! :silly:

PoohsPal

11-09-2010, 01:53 PM

John - If your ankle is unstable, that could be it. Get those orthodics! In the mean time, best I can do is prescribe RICE - Rest, Ice, ELEvation adn compression. Rest and ice being most important. A good rule of thumn is 3 days rest. If ok, then go for it. If not, 3 more days. If still not ok, see a doc. As hard as rest can be (and even lazy me has a hard time whne someone forces me to do it), if you run and are hurting enough to alter your gait, you could do some serious injury to something else. Be careful. :dust: for speedier healing!

DG - You ar eNOT a black sheep! :hug1:

jrbdad

11-09-2010, 01:58 PM

PoohsPal-

Thanks for the advice -- I really appreciate it.

PoohsPal

11-09-2010, 02:06 PM

John - FOrgot to add that ROzzie and nono are the best diagnosers adn can likely give you more specifics.

DisneyGeek

11-09-2010, 02:14 PM

DG - You ar eNOT a black sheep! :hug1:

:blush: Thanks; I didn't really mean it in a bad way- meerly that for many years of my life I didn't fit with my family's culture, expect of course for loving Disney trips. :grin: Besides, now that I've dropped 80 pounds, exercise regularly, try and hit a fairly healthy diet (most of the time ;)) AND have started running now I do kinda' fit in with the rest of my nuclear clan, and perhaps more importantly (since it is by choice not birth) our Team here! :thumbsup2:

Rozzie

11-09-2010, 02:39 PM

I think it is 1:37 for you, and 1:44 for me. I'm going for it. :)

Are you smoking that magic wand up there? 1:37? My pie in the sky goal for OUC is 1:45.

Beth, what a great deal!! :thumbsup2:

John, if you had no prior issues I would say it's just ITB and roll it out with a foam roller. But with your prior hx I would say take it very cautiously at first. Is this Doc you see a runner, or someone that supports running? Some Ortho's are anti-running and will tell everyone that limps into their office that they need to give it up. Stand firm and say that no running is not a option and either he will help you get there, or you will find someone that can.

Rozzie

11-09-2010, 02:48 PM

jrbdad

11-09-2010, 03:01 PM

Roz-

Thx - this Doc is a friend an his son & mine are in the same class - so I'm hoping I get a chance to visit with him before two weeks.

Guess I need to invest in a foam roller? Where might one get such an item?

Actually feeling a little better today. Going to give it til Thursday - if no pain, may try a short/easy run.
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cloudnut220

11-09-2010, 03:15 PM

Roz-You should totally go for! I can only dream of being that fast right now--so I need to see you do it! :D

John--You can buy a foam roller online or at a running store. My gym sells them too.

I think I might really be in reach of breaking the hour on this 10k. I had a good 4 mile run last night after an amazingly crappy day at work, but I still ran right about 10min/mile. I'm hoping that race day adrenaline is just enough to push me into the 9s :fingerscrossed:

nono

11-09-2010, 04:03 PM

Oh one more thing...

NONO you are in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes she would have to hang it out there what my qualifying time for NYC is. Yes she would have to suggest it. Yes I would have to go over to RA and do the race time predictor, and it predict....1:36:22.

We need a serene smile smiley... 'cause that's what I am doing right now.

Look, I don't even have a shape right now, and I think by Feb. I can possibly hit my mark. TRY FOR IT! See how close you get. Then book another half. And get it done woman!!!!

nono

11-09-2010, 04:04 PM

My pie in the sky goal for OUC is 1:45.

I think I have a PaceTat for that. :thumbsup2:

Rozzie

11-09-2010, 05:09 PM

I think I have a PaceTat for that. :thumbsup2:

Are you wearing it? If not I will exchange some beer for it. ;)

John, hope I didn't come across harsh. There are a few of us here, one being myself--that have a bad history when it comes to Ortho docs and running. That is great he is a friend of yours. Foam rollers are very inexpensive and you can get them a lot of places. I like to get things from RunningWarehouse.com--mainly for the quick free shipping and free returns. If you go to team discounts on the first page and type in "Roted" you get additional 15% off. I personally have the Triggerpoint roller with the bumps and grooves for a deeper (ehhh more pain too LOL) tissue massage. It's a little more but I love how portable and how long it lasts compared to the foam ones. Whatever you get, try to roll out at least every other day the tight area. You can You Tube "foam roller for ITB" and get lots of visual cues. Good luck with your run! :)

Okay, listen up OUC runners. Team Peacock BBQ is Sat. night at Mama Gail and I's THV. I have talked to Jen and bringing some extra burgers/chicken for her and Scott. Chips will be served. ("easy" is the theme) If anyone would like anything from the grocery store, such as different type of meat or chips or whatever please PM me. I am sending off my final list to Wegoshop this week.

Nono, I am still doing smores with the kids if that's okay. Aunt Rozzie has been dying for a excuse to have a old fashioned smore. :eating:

Beth, I think a sub 60 10K is in your future FOR SURE!!! GO FOR IT!

jrbdad

11-09-2010, 05:29 PM

Not harsh at all - I'm somewhat expecting a lecture. We shall see.

You all have fun!
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nono

11-09-2010, 08:12 PM

Are you wearing it? If not I will exchange some beer for it. ;)

No. I will not be wearing it. I'll try to remember to pack it. Considering that I ran my 18 miles too hard today, with only 12 days to Philly, I don't know that it would be worth it to burn a Pace Tat on OUC. That's going into the books as a "recovery race." :)

nono

11-10-2010, 06:33 AM

Nothing to do with running, but I saw this while watching my heart-throb Kurt Warner on Jimmy Kimmel....

:D

PoohsPal

11-10-2010, 07:02 AM

JOhn -Glad you are feeling better!

Roz & nono - Can't wait ot track you next year at NYC! :D

Beth - You are good to go for sub 60! Awesome!

Had a decent 45 min run last night. Would have been better if I spent more time stretching first, but I was afraid if I stopped ot do that I'd never get out the door. :p

jrbdad

11-10-2010, 07:05 AM

I'm so glad I found this thread.

Listening in on the conversation will help get me from one issue of Runners World to the next ;).

I've go to get those books.
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MatterhornMiss

11-10-2010, 08:28 AM

Jrbdad I got my foam roller from amazon.com. It was cheaper there than anywhere else. I am also a supporter of MfM because of the encouragement and support. Now I have had great experiences with sports med docs. The most important thing I think is to ask around. Ask other runners who they see and what their experiences have been.

I was totally in a bad mood all day Monday because none of my pants fit. I have gained more weight than I thought. So I am really cracking down -- well at least getting back to where I should be.

Two and a half more weeks. . .
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DisneyGeek

11-10-2010, 02:39 PM

Anyone else notice Disney races being featured on the Disney Parks blog?

http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2010/11/lots-of-run-n-fun-at-disney-parks-last-call-for-entries-in-walt-disney-world-marathon-weekend-events/

GL to everyone doing some in 2011! :thumbsup2: Personally, I hope the 2012 WDW Marathon medal is just as if not more cool than the Mickey shown... :grin:

jrbdad

11-10-2010, 03:17 PM

Rozzie

11-10-2010, 03:37 PM

Ok - need more opinions - I've logged 95 miles in the last six weeks.

Just picked up MFM at our only bookstore - the didn't have Run Faster or I'd have gotten both.

Now for the question - do you think I can be ready to run a half marathon by mid-Feb? There is on in New Orleans - about 4-5 hours from home.

Would that be enough time to train? Good first race? I don't find any 5 or 10Ks close to home anytime soon.

I'm probably crazy.
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I just wrote out a long answer and it got poofed. :oweye:

Crazy? A peacock member crazy???? Say it ain't so....

Short version. I think you would be better suited to wait until a spring race, since you are having the knee issue already. I like to go into a race feeling strong and healthy--rather than hobbling into one full of insecurities. I have done it both ways and let me tell ya', the latter can be a miserable experience. I want you to enjoy this! Remember it's a journey, not a red eye flight. ;)

I know there is that big fun 10K in Nola in April. (or is it March?) It ends at City park and has several thousand people in it, big fun atmosphere. I know there are races around you, they may just take some digging. Check with your local running store, internet, etc.

How many miles per week do you do now?
How long have you been running?
What is your longest run to date?

I would like to see someone having the base of at least 20 miles a week before they start a HM program. Especially if they are looking to "race" it. Now if you were not concerned with a time, and were going to walk a lot of it, then you could probably do it I suppose.

I vote for strong and ready for race day!! :thumbsup2:

jrbdad

11-10-2010, 03:45 PM

nono

11-10-2010, 03:53 PM

jrbdad,

I have done some pretty good half marathons with mid 20s mpw. Definitely more than just finishing them. :thumbsup2: So, once your knee is healed up, if you can work a couple of longer runs in per week, you could be ready in no time (like 8 weeks!!)

Rozzie

11-10-2010, 04:00 PM

I've been running for about three months. Run/walking before that and walking before that. Began the journey on March 4th. The day I found out I was diabetic.

Right now logging 15-20 miles/week. Depending on weather & kid's activities.

Average about 4.25 miles per run with ave pace of 9:30/mile.

Longest run was 5.6 miles.

Really much more concerned with completing rather than competing. I really hope to get to the point of running the whole race - even if it's at a slow pace.
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From what you stated here you are further along than I thought. I thnk it's not out of reach. What I would do is not register for the race for a while. See how the knee is feeling. You don't want to go backwards with that I know. Do you take fish oil? It's Nono and I's miracle drug. Also I like Glucosamine and Chrondition but never remember to take that. Doesn't fit in my pill box. :blush:

jrbdad

11-10-2010, 04:10 PM

I've thought about those supplements - need to get back on them. I've not had any pain issues at all since I've started - other than sore muscles. Hoping the knee thing is an outlier - but plan on talking to doc to be sure and keep from developing problems down the road.

Feel like I could go out and run easily tonight, but I'm off work tomorrow - so I'll wait and do something then.

Before I started with Nike+, I just ran - with no idea how far I went. Started at 30 minutes and worked up to 45 minutes. I was kind of surprised at how far I was going.
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Mr. Roz

11-10-2010, 05:31 PM

JRBDAD- "Some People follow thier dreams, others hunt them down and beat them mercilessly into submission" Neil Kendall.

That's my vote!

We ran the N.O. Marathon last year. (I think there is still a race report from that on here). If the fitness and conditioning are there..I say go for it. If not, I would look at the Jazz Half in Late October next year.

How far are you from Oklahoma City,OK? They have a marathon in May.

Mr. Roz

11-10-2010, 05:36 PM

Hey everyone:wave:.

I wanted to suggest that all Peacocks log on to Runningahead.com and start a training log. I know that Roz and I use it. I think NoNo does. It is a great tool to keep track of your running. Check it out.

jrbdad

11-10-2010, 05:59 PM

About 8 hours to Oklahoma City
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jrbdad

11-10-2010, 06:19 PM

nono

11-10-2010, 07:09 PM

. I think NoNo does.

Since before you were a runner, Whippersnapper. :silly:

That translates to since 2006 for DG, who I'm guessing would prefer numbers! :grin:

DisneyGeek

11-10-2010, 08:33 PM

Thanks for the link to the Blog.

NP!

That translates to since 2006 for DG, who I'm guessing would prefer numbers! :grin:

Thanks! :D

Mr. Roz

11-11-2010, 04:49 AM

Since before you were a runner, Whippersnapper. :silly:

I couldn't tell. You haven't logged that much mileage in lately.

MatterhornMiss

11-11-2010, 04:55 AM

Jrbdad I think you were only asking about a half and now Mr Roz has you running a full in a few months!

I would also want to see you better recovered before you start a running training program for a half. That is always my goal. Not that I ever achieve it though. I'm too stubborn (and likely too stupid) to back off though and keep going. I will say the more time you give yourself to slowly increase your mileage the less likely you are to be injured. Again another area where I don't practice what I preach.

Hope you're hanging in there Jen.

I have not felt much like a runner the past two weeks. I've been doing more cross training to allow my legs some healing. Last night (after watching some stars arrive for the CMA awards--my residence was just a block fro the start of the black carpet) I did 3 miles on the TM. I felt some residual weakness so I know I'm doing the right thing. I just feel guilty about it. But I try and tell myself I'd rather have a good 26.2 miles than make sure I'm running hard for 3 or 4 miles four times a week.

Lisa I got a pair of UA tights. They are very comfortable. I like that they don't have a drawstring.
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