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withdisneyspirit

08-04-2009, 11:28 AM

I am mending finally. I have a lingering cough, congestion and a little wheezing in my chest. I am still tired too but much better! I actually got on my recumbent bike this morning and did 20 minutes :grin: :rolleyes: Little steps on my way back to working out. I am pretty sure I won't be running for awhile yet since my chest is still congested.

LOL, Geek! My running began with Disney medal envy also. Carrie definitely gets the credit there for my improved health - thanks, Carrie, you rock!!!!! :yahoo:

I do like reading about running also but my go to book is really MfM also. I admire nono making a true study of it though and I am always so impressed with her stats, which surely come from her education in part!

Rozzie

08-04-2009, 01:49 PM

Carrie, I see what you are saying but this is the thing with me. Full Potential. I need to see improvements to keep myself motivated. I also never want to be on my death bed wondering what I could have done, living my last moment with regrets. It's fun to me to see the improvements with working hard. Plus there is no way I could train like this in the summer if I did not have some goals running around in my head. :silly:

I do like MfM, another book I really like is Jeff Galloway's Book on Running. It covers things more in detail, especially injury prevention, treatment, lactic threshold, glycogen, etc. It is also a very motivating read. :)

Well tonight is the big night. Racing season kicks off at 630pm downtown Mobile for a 5K. There is already a lot of back and forth going on between rival racing teams, makes it a lot of fun. Then there is the back and forth with spouses too....our Coach loves to stir the pot. :poke: :D

Hope you get to feeling better Lisa, take it easy---don't even think about running until you are feeling much stronger.

PoohsPal

08-04-2009, 02:11 PM

Roz - I am thrilled ofr you and for how well you're doing. I had enough of trying to live up to my full potential for 4 years in HS and just don't want to pressure myself again.

I'm still cheering big time for you and nono and anyone else who really wants to see what they can do, though. Good luck tonight!

My only point is that there are many beginners here who are reading nothing. That worries me, especially as so many of us have been doing this for long enough that we froget what you go through when you start. I really believe that MfM is very easy read that covers a great deal for beginners without being too boring. ;) So,a s I said, if you're just goign to read 1 book, that's the one I'd recommend.

nono

08-04-2009, 02:24 PM

My only point is that there are many beginners here who are reading nothing. That worries me, especially as so many of us have been doing this for long enough that we froget what you go through when you start. I really believe that MfM is very easy read that covers a great deal for beginners without being too boring. ;) So,a s I said, if you're just goign to read 1 book, that's the one I'd recommend.

But, what if you don't want to run a marathon? Isn't his other book better?

mickeyndvcfan

08-04-2009, 02:47 PM

Lisa....glad you are feeling better and hope the congestion goes away quickly. :hug1:

ROZ....go kick some a$$ tonight!!!! :cheerleader:

DisneyGeek

08-04-2009, 02:51 PM

Well tonight is the big night. Racing season kicks off at 630pm downtown Mobile for a 5K. There is already a lot of back and forth going on between rival racing teams, makes it a lot of fun. Then there is the back and forth with spouses too....our Coach loves to stir the pot. :poke: :D

GO GO GO and have a great race! :cheerleader: Can't wait to read your RR. :)

Rozzie

08-04-2009, 03:01 PM

Roz - I am thrilled ofr you and for how well you're doing. I had enough of trying to live up to my full potential for 4 years in HS and just don't want to pressure myself again.

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I can certainly understand that. :)

MatterhornMiss

08-04-2009, 06:15 PM

MM- If she's racing SUnday, it's International/Olympic distance, if it's Saturday, it's teh sprint. I'm SUnday and hoping to volunteer Saturday.

She is racing Sunday! I think she said she has to be in the starting area around 6am, so I'm not sure what time that means she'll be actually starting (it looks like the first group will be gathering at 4am--gulp!--and starting at 6am). It would be so cool to meet a peacock!

MatterhornMiss

08-04-2009, 06:16 PM

I'm beginning to think Carrie's dating the MfM guy on the side! :silly:

:rotfl2:

MatterhornMiss

08-04-2009, 06:23 PM

Well, despite what seemed to be a reinactment here in Louisville of the Biblical flood--despite God's promise never to do it again ;)--I managed to get in a fabulous 4 miles. After the rains calmed down a bit (this morning it rained something like 6 inches in 1 hour--cars were floating down the street, and I really expected to see an arc with an old guy and a bunch of animals following) this afternoon, I hit the streets (or at least the sidewalks) and really, really pushed myself. And it paid off. I ran the 4 miles in 39:52!!! :yahoo: It was the first time I was able to maintain at least a 10min mile not being on the treadmill. I can definitely tell my body wasn't used to it. I'm not in pain now, but about halfway through I got a small stitch in my side, which I never get. Normally (these last couple of weeks, at least), I'm smiling, be-bopping along to my music. But I really wanted to run at least 10:30min mile. So I am totally stoked I did better than my goal!:broc:

Oh, and someday I will learn to read all the old posts first and consolidate my answers into one post.

mickeyndvcfan

08-04-2009, 06:47 PM

Mr. Roz

08-04-2009, 09:21 PM

nono

08-05-2009, 04:32 AM

this afternoon, I hit the streets (or at least the sidewalks) and really, really pushed myself. And it paid off. I ran the 4 miles in 39:52!!! :yahoo: It was the first time I was able to maintain at least a 10min mile not being on the treadmill. I can definitely tell my body wasn't used to it. I'm not in pain now, but about halfway through I got a small stitch in my side, which I never get. Normally (these last couple of weeks, at least), I'm smiling, be-bopping along to my music. But I really wanted to run at least 10:30min mile. So I am totally stoked I did better than my goal!:broc:

One heck of a Time Trial there Miss! :yahoo: I hope you are keeping track of all this in a log (whether online or paper). Remember to give yourself a break now that you've had this breakthrough run: It's OK for the next one to be at a slower pace.

You bod won't forget the quicker pace. I promise you that! ;)

PoohsPal

08-05-2009, 06:13 AM

But, what if you don't want to run a marathon? Isn't his other book better? Actually, MfM has a lot more info that Running for Mortals or No Need for Speed and still talks about beginners. If you wnat the 5K and 10K training plans, though, you'd need one of the others. Just seems liek many here are going for a half marathon.

LIsa- FOrgot to say aya for feeling better. Hope you are back to 100% soon!

MM - I have no idea when my wave starts. I didn't see anything posted. Maybe I shoudl do some website digging. We'll have to make plans when things get closer. WIll you be there all weekend? Great job on the run!

Mr. Roz

08-05-2009, 06:24 AM

Well, this will be my first race report, so try and stay awake...The Crime Prevention 5K is the first race of the season for us here. It is a fund raiser for local law enforcement,so I felt extra empowered in honor of my good friend Flash 227. Roz and I were both looking to do well but I was worried that the heat would take alot out of it. I really didn't know what my time would be. "Just don't suck.." was kinda our theme this week.
We get there and let's just say the conditions were HOT. The temp read 85 but with humidity it was pushing 100. There was a little breeze blowing and I thought to myself that we have run in hotter conditions recently so I wasn't going to worry about it. Our Coach met up with us and gave us a little pre race advice...Don't start out too fast, save your KICK for the end. He suggested that on our warmup, run the course backwards so we know when to hit our marks.

When you make the last turn on this course you can see the finish line but it is still three qaurters of a mile a way. Your tempted to hit it right there, but you'll run out of gas, especially if you START OUT TOO FAST. I picked my spot and headed to the start. My goal was to beat my last time of 27:11. That was on a trail run in the rain so I thought I would do better but with the heat, I wasn't so sure. The gun went off and I hit my watch, it took about 10 seconds to cross the start so I hit my split button to keep an accurate time of the race clock vs my actual time. Downtown Mobile is really a beautiful run with the old French architecture, stately oaks, and we ran by Fort Condi, a Civil War era fort over looking the bay.

I felt real good too start and spent a lot of time concentrating form, breathing, arms and pretty much everything Coach says every week. I get to the first water stop and walk through it and look up and see mile one marker 7:57! and this is after I walked through the water stop. Crap!:oweye: I STARTED OUT TOO FAST! I felt good though so I locked in on a runner ahead with lime green shorts, Thought it might be a DIS member, and knew I HAD to pass them. Caught up to them , hit mile 2 at 16:11, hit the water stop. I'm still thinking I'm going too fast, so I bring it down a little, the heat is getting to me a bit. Rounded one turn and there was a friend yelling some encouragement so that got me going some. I looked in the reflection of some of the store windows to see where Roz was behind me. I just knew she was going to pass me in the end. Turned on to the last street headed for home. I hit my mark and turned it on.

To my surprise I was passing a lot of people. Then I saw the finish line and my Coach. Let's say he was a little animated. "KICK IT!,KICK IT!, KICK IT!"was all I could hear. Crossed the line at 24:34. Four minutes better than my last road 5K and seven minutes better than my first one last December. I felt great. Looking back, I can see several areas to improve on, which is neccesary each race. Sub 24 is definately the next goal and hopefully something special by the end of this season. There was some friendly proding going on between Roz and I :poke:But we both PR'd our 5K time and had a blast. Running with her is the best. Thanks for all the encouragement and NoNo..sorry about the ten dollars.

Rozzie

08-05-2009, 06:59 AM

Well I will do one I suppose. I think Mr Roz got all the base down, so this should be simple. Got my butt handed to me in a sling! ;) But I will still do my required PEACOCK. :D

One thing about 5Ks is you really need a plan. Or I've done enough of them to know I really need a plan if I want to run a fast race. Really really strong runners can say "run as fast as I can for 3 miles". Not this chick... I've tried that before and can't stand running out of gas at the end and not be able to do a kick at the end. Besides, that's the fun part--the kick! Biggest thing about "the kick" is when to do it. As Scott pointed out, we had our place all picked out.

But let me back up. Plan was for all 3 of us run together and take turns holding the pace. (as you all know, it's much more effort keeping the pace than holding the pace) Well off Mr Roz goes with the gun. I kept up with him for about 1/8 of a mile and he kept creeping up, up up. Pretty soon he was out in front by several lengths. Then I heard a scream from behind, my beloved RP who yelled "7:10!" She had her Garmin on and was telling me I was way too fast. Good thing, or I would have been in a hospital later. :D Rules were nothing faster than 8:15 first mile. So entire race I keep thinking Scott was going to have to back off, and I could catch him going "my" pace. Nope. And I was bearing down too. Was not hurting yet, but I was going faster than I ever remember doing in a 5K. All I could tell myself was stay loose, stay loose.

We start passing people we know in mile 3. Still can't catch him. Turned onto the final street, where everyone started their kick. BUT it was too early! These people all faded out by the finish. Ha, my OCDness pays off as I wait till "my spot" then I yell at my RP to go. Really wanted her to out kick me as it was her 40th. I ended up finishing a stride in front of her, which I had some regrets on. But in the end, I'm a runner and it's a race. Never any hard feelings between us. RP's are great. I bought her and her husband's dinner after the race. :biggulp: Final time 25:10 official, shaved a minute off my PR from winter. Placed 4th in my age group. My RP finished 4th in her age group too, fun times indeed. :)

I was so proud of Scott, I could not believe how he kicked arse!! WTG! :thumbsup2:

athenna

08-05-2009, 07:06 AM

How did you guys make out today?

Oh, we did great Gail!:cheerleader: Day #1 was great, my knees were fine....Yesterday was cross training day, so I did Pilates, and today is the first rest day.

Thanks again:hug1:

mickeyndvcfan

08-05-2009, 07:54 AM

Oh, we did great Gail!:cheerleader: Day #1 was great, my knees were fine....Yesterday was cross training day, so I did Pilates, and today is the first rest day.

Thanks again:hug1:

:yahoo: Glad to hear it!!

mickeyndvcfan

08-05-2009, 07:57 AM

:cheerleader::yahoo: :love30::rocker::yahoo::cheerleader: To the Rozzies WTG!!!

KING & QUEEN PEACOCKS!!!

PoohsPal

08-05-2009, 08:52 AM

Great job Rozzies!!!!! :cheerleader::cheerleader:

Athenna - Yay for the first 2 days going well adn pain free!!!

MatterhornMiss

08-05-2009, 09:24 AM

One heck of a Time Trial there Miss! :yahoo: I hope you are keeping track of all this in a log (whether online or paper). Remember to give yourself a break now that you've had this breakthrough run: It's OK for the next one to be at a slower pace.

You bod won't forget the quicker pace. I promise you that! ;)

I really should be keeping track, huh?

Oh, I am planning on going slower next time--believe me ;) Not slow slow, but not pushing myself to do <10min miles. I am excited, though, because my lofty goal of running the 10K in an hour might be an actual reality!

MatterhornMiss

08-05-2009, 09:27 AM

Great job, Mr. and Mrs. Roz!!! :rocker:

PoohsPal

08-05-2009, 09:38 AM

I really should be keeping track, huh?

Yeha, it's great to track your progress. My Garmin logs all my runs, but I heard that RunningAhead.com is a great place to log if you need ot do it on your own.

Rozzie

08-05-2009, 10:01 AM

Yeha, it's great to track your progress. My Garmin logs all my runs, but I heard that RunningAhead.com is a great place to log if you need ot do it on your own.

Another Running ahead logger here. It's a great way to see your progress with the different graph's and stuff. Plus it's fun to see your weekly and monthly mileage progressions. I am a big believer in "keeping track". :) You are doing so great MM, very proud of you!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup2:

Nice job Jen, you are going to do amazing things on this program. :goodvibes:

withdisneyspirit

08-05-2009, 10:52 AM

WOWEE, Rozzie and Mr. Roz, that is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I loved y'alls race reports too! I bet your coach was very proud! I know I am proud of you two PEACOCKS!!!!!

withdisneyspirit

08-05-2009, 10:53 AM

I did a 30 minute walk on my treadmill today :D it felt pretty good :goodvibes: I even thought about throwing in some intervals but I decided to wait on that...

DisneyGeek

08-05-2009, 01:12 PM

we both PR'd our 5K time and had a blast. Running with her is the best. Thanks for all the encouragement and NoNo..sorry about the ten dollars.

Final time 25:10 official, shaved a minute off my PR from winter. Placed 4th in my age group. My RP finished 4th in her age group too, fun times indeed. :)

TOTALLY AWESOME and way to go for all three of you!!! :cheerleader: Thanks for sharing your RRs.

On a personal note- I am actually feeling really motivated today for ToT; I ran 3.32 miles @ 9:35 pace this morning! :D If I could do that in October it will be a nice PR indeed. (My 5k race PR currently stands at fractions under 10:00 pace) Maybe I can channel you guys!!! :confused:

Rozzie

08-05-2009, 01:22 PM

DG, I bet you are going to knock it out of the park for TOT! This is when it gets even more fun--when you see your times drop.
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mickeyndvcfan

08-05-2009, 03:06 PM

I might be signing up for the 5K in Jan.....we are planning on having a Surprize 80th b-day party for my mother (who lives in Fla.) on Jan. 9th. So, I might come down a few days early and do the 5K with ya'll already signed up and be there to cheer on the rest of my Peacock friends for the other races. My mom only lives about a half an hour away from Disney so since there won't be enough room at her place for everyone I get an excuse to have another trip to Disney. :yahoo:

nono

08-05-2009, 03:31 PM

Actually, MfM has a lot more info that Running for Mortals or No Need for Speed and still talks about beginners. If you wnat the 5K and 10K training plans, though, you'd need one of the others. Just seems liek many here are going for a half marathon.

Sooooo, you admit that you've read more than one running book! :jester:

It's good to know which books of his are best for each length specialty as we do have some folks targeting 5Ks and 10Ks, I believe.

As for why reading, here's why for me. How did I start sailing? Swimming? Skiing? I took lessons. I haven't found a running coach or club locally, so I've taken a one day running seminar, and I have to self-teach. So I am stuck with reading. <insert Belle smiley here>

nono

08-05-2009, 03:36 PM

Congrats on the PRs Rozzie and Mr Roz!

Well done!!!:goodvibes::goodvibes:

P.S. Mr Roz, do you take payment in disney dollars?

Mr. Roz

08-05-2009, 04:05 PM

Congrats on the PRs Rozzie and Mr Roz!

Well done!!!:goodvibes::goodvibes:

P.S. Mr Roz, do you take payment in disney dollars?
We can settle on a Yuengling or Corona:biggulp:

Rozzie

08-05-2009, 04:14 PM

Sweet Gail on the Jan trip!!!!!!!!!! :woohoodance: :yahoo:

mickeyndvcfan

08-05-2009, 04:29 PM

Sweet Gail on the Jan trip!!!!!!!!!! :woohoodance: :yahoo:

Now I have to find out if my son and DIL will be going down to see if I need a place for all of us or not. I will have to borrow points for the first time since I have been a member. :boohoohoo: I've always been banking points.

withdisneyspirit

08-05-2009, 06:29 PM

Rozzie

08-06-2009, 04:33 AM

MatterhornMiss

08-06-2009, 09:08 AM

Now I have to find out if my son and DIL will be going down to see if I need a place for all of us or not. I will have to borrow points for the first time since I have been a member. :boohoohoo: I've always been banking points.

:scratchchin: always banking points--that must be a nice feeling. I'm usually with Roz in perpetual borrowing mode.

I made a ressie today for a cash room at VB for the week after the Princess 1/2. I thought it might be a nice split stay (and a nice way to entice my sister since she's not a big WDW fan :eek:). I was surprised that a studio was only $140/night, given that, on the points chart at least, it is by far the most expensive time of year to visit.

My 4 mile run today will be indoors on the treadmill, as the heat and humidity are returning for the dog days of summer. I'll let you all know how it went.

flash277

08-06-2009, 10:43 AM

nono

08-06-2009, 11:19 AM

nono

08-06-2009, 11:53 AM

Cards for your running friends:

http://www.fargonegreetings.com/home.php?cat=253

flash277

08-06-2009, 01:55 PM

flash, if you look back over my log, I was running 14 min miles, then 12, etc. It does come over time even if you don't focus on it. And I wasn't one of the folks who lost weight while running my first couple years. That came from practically wiring my jaws shut. (nice thing 'bout that, I can still :biggulp:) :) So, if you are dropping weight too, you'll definitely see an improvement.

Good luck on your 5 mi this weekend! I'm sure you can do it, and hope you feel good afterwards!

Hey thanks nono..........Funny what a quick read will do here, after I wrote this, I went for for a 4 mile run and turned in my best time by far......45:41, which is a 11:19 pace, very good for me. (Also, with my runs, I run from my mailbox to my mailbox, I start my watch at my mailbox, then I walk about 3 minutes to my starting line) so considering this time includes 3 minutes of walking, I'm happy. (don't ask me to change my starting time, it's my thing). It's nice to hear that people started out with times like mine, I've really only been running for about 2 months now, and today was one of the few days I really felt good running, hopefully I'll carry it over the next two days.....Then onto our Nickelodeon Cruise that our son Sean won for us. I figure I gotta run at least 3 days on the ship (yeah, it'll probably be three days, I am on vacation after all):wave:

DisneyGeek

08-06-2009, 02:02 PM

I went for for a 4 mile run and turned in my best time by far......

Well done! :thumbsup2: New bests always feel great. :D

Rozzie

08-06-2009, 02:07 PM

Great run Flash! :)

Rozzie

08-06-2009, 02:31 PM

My Coach just forwarded this to me. If this does not make you want to lace up and go running, you ain't got a pulse!!! :wave:

YouTube - The First Gold

MatterhornMiss

08-06-2009, 02:45 PM

Wow, great runs by the Rozzies.......I gotta sign up for another 5K soon. Ah, eveyone here is having such good times, I feel slow. I been running 4 miles now, working on getting to 5 miles this weekend. As of now, I'm more focused on the distance than the time, I guess that'll come, (plus when I lose my Clydesdale status, that is slowing me up a bit)...................

I know exactly how you feel! I was stuck in a rut of stinky runs, then got a lot of encouragement here and that has helped my attitude. It is so hard not to compare myself to all the wonderful runners on the thread, but if I focus on setting realistic goals for myself, and meeting them, then I can celebrate MY accomplishment.

And nono is right, the speed does come! I just started running in March, and have been working on my distance. When I ran a 5K in May, I was averaging around 11:45 min a mile. Then, I felt I was slowing down. For June and most of July, I was taking 12 to sometimes 13 mins to run a mile. I was really frustrated and hating running. But, again after all the support I received, I'm trying to have a better attitude. And the speed is coming! Last Saturday I ran 7 miles in 77 mins. And on Tues I ran 4 miles in just under 40 mins. So you will get there. Great job on the work done so far and for your perserverance! :cheerleader: Why don't you join me in club penguin? :silly:

Speaking of penguins, today was another 4 mile run day. The treadmills at work were all occupied, as was the treadmill at the apartment complex. So I decided to hit the road. I wanted to take it easier than on Tuesday, especially since the sun was out (though not terribly humid) and it was hotter. After about 2.5 miles, I was getting such a terrible stitch in my side (I have no idea why--I don't usually get them, especially not at that speed), that I had to walk for a block or two. I am proud of myself, though. Rather than giving up and walking all the way back, I pushed myself to start running again. But the pain in my side came back stronger, so that I had to stop with about a tenth of a mile left. Every stride I took just seemed to be too jarring. I couldn't catch my breath! Anyway, so I got a little more than 3.5 miles in, but not the full 4 miles. Oh well--there is always Saturday! I think I might try to do a little yoga today. I've been slacking on that. I could use a good stretch.

MatterhornMiss

08-06-2009, 02:47 PM

mickeyndvcfan

08-06-2009, 02:57 PM

:yahoo: WTG Flash!!!

mickeyndvcfan

08-06-2009, 02:58 PM

Rozzie

08-06-2009, 03:58 PM

nono

08-06-2009, 05:48 PM

My Coach just forwarded this to me. If this does not make you want to lace up and go running, you ain't got a pulse!!! :wave:

YouTube - The First Gold (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dFgH_vDh6E)

And yet, amazingly, her uterus didn't fall out! :grin: (For those who don't get the reference -- that was an often cited reason for women being banned from distance running, and why it took until 1984 for an Olympic Women's marathon race)

Thank Rozzie for making me :boohoohoo:.

flash277

08-06-2009, 06:19 PM

withdisneyspirit

08-06-2009, 06:36 PM

I too loved watching the video of Joan running that first Olympic marathon :goodvibes: - thanks, Rozzie!!!!

Mr. Roz

08-06-2009, 08:37 PM

Hey thanks nono..........Funny what a quick read will do here, after I wrote this, I went for for a 4 mile run and turned in my best time by far......45:41, which is a 11:19 pace, very good for me. (Also, with my runs, I run from my mailbox to my mailbox, I start my watch at my mailbox, then I walk about 3 minutes to my starting line) so considering this time includes 3 minutes of walking, I'm happy. (don't ask me to change my starting time, it's my thing). It's nice to hear that people started out with times like mine, I've really only been running for about 2 months now, and today was one of the few days I really felt good running, hopefully I'll carry it over the next two days.....Then onto our Nickelodeon Cruise that our son Sean won for us. I figure I gotta run at least 3 days on the ship (yeah, it'll probably be three days, I am on vacation after all):wave:
Looking back on my times, I was doing close to 14 min pace on some runs. I firmly believe that you need to get the distance in and the time/pace will come.
Hey, when you get back from your cruise, you really need to look at putting yourself on a schedule. Something with a little variety and mixed distance and tempos. That's great on the upcoming 5 miler,hope all goes well. Check in with the cruiseline and see what options they have on the ship for runners., I'm sure they at least have a treadmill. Have fun.

flash277

08-06-2009, 09:28 PM

Looking back on my times, I was doing close to 14 min pace on some runs. I firmly believe that you need to get the distance in and the time/pace will come.
Hey, when you get back from your cruise, you really need to look at putting yourself on a schedule. Something with a little variety and mixed distance and tempos. That's great on the upcoming 5 miler,hope all goes well. Check in with the cruiseline and see what options they have on the ship for runners., I'm sure they at least have a treadmill. Have fun.

Right on Mr Roz!.......When I get back, we'll discuss......As for the ship, I've read they have a running track, and plenty of tredmills, so I'll be doing something..............:thumbsup2:

Rozzie

08-07-2009, 04:26 AM

Right on Mr Roz!.......When I get back, we'll discuss......As for the ship, I've read they have a running track, and plenty of tredmills, so I'll be doing something..............:thumbsup2:

So no excuses on not getting your runs in! ;)

No excuses for me either. I'm on call this weekend, so that means I got to do my 5 miler before work tomorrow at 0430. Then do my 16 miler at 0400 before work on Sunday. It sucks but it's the only way to get my mileage in. Can't skimp out now, I got a 18 miler coming up in 2 weeks and I know I would put myself at a increased risk for injury if I back off before that. (following the 10% rule to a "T")

PoohsPal

08-07-2009, 10:34 AM

Sooooo, you admit that you've read more than one running book! :jester:

....So I am stuck with reading. <insert Belle smiley here>
:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:I probably shouldn't admit to this, but Scott told me what books were best. OK, I did read Chi RUnning, too, though. Beyond that, a couple of tidbits that Scott marked for me from tri books adn a Total Immersion DVD.

I like Belle and her love for reading, too. It's just that I prefer to read daring swordfights, far off places, princes in disguise. ;)

I do have to admit that your way of reading lots is better. I just have no desire, though. :confused24:

Flas - Great job on your 4-miler!

MM - Sticking it out with your cramps as long as you did is awesome! That's the stuff that makes you stronger and makes you appreciate those great runs.

I had a huge milestone this week. I swam 0.81 miles! Just 0.19 more needed fo CHicago adn I think I ocudl do that now. Gets kind of boring, though. Still, I founda groove adn it was awesome!

Big 10-miler tomorrow. Supposed to me low 80s, though. I haven't run more than 6 all summer and haven't run above 73 degree temps. (Sad, I know) Kind of worried about it. :(

lol about the uterus not falling out. Did anyone see SPirit of the MArathon? They had teh first woman to run BOston in ther. Amazing how antiquated people were in tehir thoughts.

MatterhornMiss

08-07-2009, 10:43 AM

WTG Carrie! :thumbsup2: Can't wait to see you in action later this month! :cheerleader: :wave:

PoohsPal

08-07-2009, 10:46 AM

WTG Carrie! :thumbsup2: Can't wait to see you in action later this month! :cheerleader: :wave:
Action, is kind of a relative word, right? HOpe you can wait aroudn to actually see me. I'm slower in tri's than in running. :p Can't wait to meet you!

MatterhornMiss

08-07-2009, 10:46 AM

MM, I get that "stitch" too sometimes. :blech: Sometimes it's from not breathing right in hot weather. I am the worse breather out there, I need to work on my belly breathing. It just seems like there is so many things I have to think about, you would think breathing should be something that is not hard LOL. When I do get the stitch I slow down and do real deep regular breaths. In for 2 strides out for 2 strides and it seems to help.

I try to take slower, deep breaths when I feel one coming on--yesterday, it just didn't want to go away. I think because I was trying to keep going, after taking a few slower breaths, my breathing seemed to speed up faster, which didn't help. I will definitely try to focus more on my breathing tomorrow.

MatterhornMiss

08-07-2009, 10:48 AM

Action, is kind of a relative word, right? HOpe you can wait aroudn to actually see me. I'm slower in tri's than in running. :p Can't wait to meet you!

Oh my word, I am amazed that people can vary their training and complete three different disciplines! It sounds like you're doing great!

PoohsPal

08-07-2009, 01:25 PM

Oh my word, I am amazed that people can vary their training and complete three different disciplines! It sounds like you're doing great!
I spent 3 years saying I coudl never do a tri. I love them, though. I love mixing up the training too. I''l be reado to take on marathon training again after it. You can get there too. One step at a time, though.

nono

08-07-2009, 01:58 PM

:rotfl2::rotfl2::rotfl2:I probably shouldn't admit to this, but Scott told me what books were best. OK, I did read Chi RUnning, too, though. Beyond that, a couple of tidbits that Scott marked for me from tri books adn a Total Immersion DVD.

What's wrong with getting book suggestions from others? I think it is smart to have Scott help you not waste time! I read the Chi Running book, but until I watched the DVD, I couldn't translate it to my running exactly. I like his loosening techniques. I don't do them consistently, but I like 'em. :grin:

Everyone loves Total Immersion. I have never seen/read it -- just not that into swimming these days, even though it was my primary sport as a kid.

I should train for "aquathlons" (running and swimming). I can't do bikes. I have a hard time with equipment....:blush:

PoohsPal

08-07-2009, 02:09 PM

What's wrong with getting book suggestions from others? I think it is smart to have Scott help you not waste time! ......
I should train for "aquathlons" (running and swimming). I can't do bikes. I have a hard time with equipment....:blush:
I just thought it was funny that you actually thought I read another book and caught me. :p I haven't heard of aquathlons. Cool. Hope they yhave more around youthan me, though. I can't believe you'd have a hard itme on a bike. Nice to know you're human. (My own thoughts that you rock at everything, not any attitude you present)

Funny, I loved to swim as a kid, too. Never above teh water, though. This using a real from thing is very hard for me. It's great for non-impact work outs, though. (Except for banging your head against the wall when you just can't be coordinated enough to make everythign work togetehr.)

DisneyGeek

08-07-2009, 03:20 PM

Funny, I loved to swim as a kid, too. Never above teh water, though.

"Under the sea" is definitely the way to go and I always loved to swim as a kid, although I never did it competitively! I think that is why I took up SCUBA diving... Guess I need to watch Little Mermaid and schedule a Dive Quest soon! Oh, I suppose I could also head out to one of the local quarries here in OH; I haven't done any dives yet this season (except for the "SCUBA for Diabetes" pool one a few months back). :grin:

nono

08-07-2009, 04:24 PM

See, SCUBA is hard for me -- the equipment thing! I only dive with operators who will let me shed equipment and swim around in between dives. Gets me back to normal.

Carrie, you should have seen me learn to ski. I cartwheeled down the hill (it was PA -- so like Michigan "mountains") for the first two years I was learning. And that was with lessons. :oweye: And skiing every weekend. :headbrickwall: But I kept at it and eventually got to ski by my late 20s with ex-US Ski Team members for a week and did the double black diamonds where they've held the Extreme Ski Championships (I think that's the one) in Crested Butte,CO. I had a lot of lessons and coaching to get me "right" on skis!

I just get so much enjoyment out of "slaying the beast" that comes with sports. Plus, the comraderie and all that. And I don't mind failing a lot along the way. For whatever reason, the failures don't stick with me. Possibly 'cause I started failing so young that it was no big deal? Not sure.

OK, so tomorrow's 5K plan: 1 mi warm up at recovery pace. 3.1 miles as a progression: aiming for 8:30 1st mile, 8:00 2nd mile, then hope to hold a 7:30 for the remaining 1.1 mile. Then a 1 mi cool down. I have NO IDEA if I can do this. My legs have been lead this week since I doubled on Tuesday, then cleaned carpets for 3 continuous hrs. at my Mom's old place on Wednesday. So tomorrow is a big :unsure: for me. I'm totally breaking with my training plan to do it too, but hey, the plan is supposed to be broken as it is all about Adaptive Training! :D

mickeyndvcfan

08-07-2009, 06:08 PM

nono

08-07-2009, 06:48 PM

Good luck tomorrow nono!!! Where is the race?

Ocean City. My friend Sharon talked me into it late last week. I will do walk up registration :scared07: tomorrow.

Rozzie

08-07-2009, 07:41 PM

OK, so tomorrow's 5K plan: 1 mi warm up at recovery pace. 3.1 miles as a progression: aiming for 8:30 1st mile, 8:00 2nd mile, then hope to hold a 7:30 for the remaining 1.1 mile. Then a 1 mi cool down. I have NO IDEA if I can do this. My legs have been lead this week since I doubled on Tuesday, then cleaned carpets for 3 continuous hrs. at my Mom's old place on Wednesday. So tomorrow is a big :unsure: for me. I'm totally breaking with my training plan to do it too, but hey, the plan is supposed to be broken as it is all about Adaptive Training! :D

I like this! :thumbsup2: You know my hardest part of a 5K is the cool down. I am always caught up in seeing people we train with and how they did, where's the beer line, etc. I have to start doing cool downs, it might help me walk the next day. :D

Good Luck Queen Peacock!!!! :cheerleader: You will rock it I know!!

withdisneyspirit

08-07-2009, 08:06 PM

Ooooh, nono! I am looking forward to another race report!

Y'all are gonna be sure I'm a wierdo but on top of trying to shake this flu and lingering cough, I also went to the dermatologist today and they put about 165 patches on my back today for a patch test for allergies!! :scared07: :silly: I was told to be a couch potato this weekend. I am not to get wet or even sweaty so no workouts again :boohoohoo: I was looking forward to a nice long walk with hubby at least :(

Therefore, I need to hear all about my Peacock team mates' exploits :D

nono

08-07-2009, 08:12 PM

I like this! :thumbsup2: You know my hardest part of a 5K is the cool down. I am always caught up in seeing people we train with and how they did, where's the beer line, etc. I have to start doing cool downs, it might help me walk the next day. :D

Good Luck Queen Peacock!!!! :cheerleader: You will rock it I know!!

Thanks! Well, I must be taking this seriously 'cause I'm already in bed, didn't drink today, and iced both my knee and foot! :blech:

flash277

08-07-2009, 08:16 PM

I like this! :thumbsup2: You know my hardest part of a 5K is the cool down. I am always caught up in seeing people we train with and how they did, where's the beer line, etc. I have to start doing cool downs, it might help me walk the next day. :D

Good Luck Queen Peacock!!!! :cheerleader: You will rock it I know!!

Ha!:rotfl2:a 5K for you is a walk in the park..........:thumbsup2:

and nono will romp as usual.............

flash277

08-08-2009, 07:08 AM

Ahhhh:( I was all set to run my 5 miles today, but yesterday my right foot started bothering me a bit after my 5K run. I took my advil and felt better this morning, but as as I laced up and started outside, the pain came back. I don't know how other people handle this pin, but I felt it was best to rest again, since I'll be going on a cruise this week and I don't want to be limping everywhere. Although I am a bit bummed since I was looking forward to my first 5 miler.....oh well, I'll do it when I get back......Bon Voyage!:pirate:

withdisneyspirit

08-08-2009, 07:20 AM

Say more about the foot, Flash. Where does it hurt? Many of us have had foot problems and it will help to know how to handle it so you will be ready for that 5 miler when you get back! :thumbsup2: Have a blast on the cruise :yahoo:

stimpy

08-08-2009, 10:01 AM

Psst...it's the same self-diagnosed "gout" he's had for years now. The Dr said it's not gout but since he never went back......:rolleyes:

flash277

08-08-2009, 12:02 PM

Psst...it's the same self-diagnosed "gout" he's had for years now. The Dr said it's not gout but since he never went back......:rolleyes:

No, it's not my self diagnosed gout.....this pain is in my right foot, on the right side of the right foot:boohoohoo:

nono

08-08-2009, 01:48 PM

I'm tired. More later.

It wasn't the race. It was the traffic getting back. :blech: Getting beer transfusion now...

DisneyGeek

08-08-2009, 02:00 PM

I also went to the dermatologist today and they put about 165 patches on my back today for a patch test for allergies!! :scared07: :silly:

Good luck, hope they can help you out. I get allergy shots and they seem to help but the testing wasn't fun and I think they only gave me ~60!!! You got 2.5 times more? YIKES :scared07:

I'm tired. More later.

It wasn't the race. It was the traffic getting back. :blech: Getting beer transfusion now...

Hope the :biggulp:is going well and everything is OK. Would've wished you luck but didn't see you were running today in time! Hope there is some good news in your upcoming report... :fingerscrossed:

withdisneyspirit

08-08-2009, 06:04 PM

Good luck, hope they can help you out. I get allergy shots and they seem to help but the testing wasn't fun and I think they only gave me ~60!!! You got 2.5 times more? YIKES :scared07:
I am afraid the dermatologist sees me as a challenge. I already have an extremely rare skin disorder so all the doctors on hand always pile into my examining room to get a look at me, arggghhhh :oweye: Anyway, he did the set for eyes even though I don't wear contacts and the one for cosmetics too which you would not need plus who knows what else??? There is not an inch of back left to cover! :rolleyes: Thanks for the good wishes :goodvibes:

Hope the :biggulp:is going well and everything is OK. Would've wished you luck but didn't see you were running today in time! Hope there is some good news in your upcoming report... :fingerscrossed:

Come back soon, nono, after your transfusion is complete and a success, I hope!!!!! :drunkard:

nono

08-08-2009, 06:42 PM

Come back soon, nono, after your transfusion is complete and a success, I hope!!!!! :drunkard:

I've been so edgy this afternoon/evening! I'm a bit tired physically, but very keyed up mentally. One beer didn't knock me out for a nap, like I had hoped. :confused:

Here's the basics:

We had D-tags but no start mat and no starting line that I could figure out (ah, just using the tags for order of finish...crap! Didn't figure this out till we were underway). Anyway, I spent most of the 5K trying to do math in my head. Tight course and not the speediest runners up front... which made my plan of an 8:30/8:00/7:30 paced progression get tossed out the window. But it was no big deal as I kept my head. And kept trying to carry the one and do division. ;) That entertained me for almost a half hour....I ended up under 25:00:00 which was my goal, but only by 5 sec according to gun, and since I have no idea where the start was, I wiped any data that shows otherwise out of my Garmin. So gun time it is, and it was still a PR. http://www.runningahead.com/images/forum/emo_smile_shades.gif

What this means though is that for the remaining training cycle of marathon plan, I move up one target pace level starting tomorrow. That means instead of having 9:30-10:30 target pace level for tomorrow's 11 mile run, I now have a target pace level of 9:14-10:14. :oweye: I just gave myself more work. I'm a chooch.

withdisneyspirit

08-08-2009, 08:00 PM

WooHoo, nono, what a Peacock run that was!!!! Congrats!!!!!!!!!!!! :yahoo:
...and now you have to pay for it too and always train faster, lol, you are something else, lady! :rolleyes::grin::goodvibes:

Rozzie

08-08-2009, 08:01 PM

Sweet Nono!! I knew you were going to rock it today. :thumbsup2: Getting caught in traffic and still PRing. Whooooeee!! :D:yahoo:

I hear ya' on the new pace levels, I just got emailed my new target zone for threshold workouts--08:30 Pace. My first thought was CRAP! Why did I run so fast!! :rolleyes: ;) Have a great 11 miler tomorrow. You can do it!! (in my best Waterboy/Adam Sandler voice)

Have a great cruise Stimpy's. Flash do tell mroe about the foot when you get back.

Lisa, All I can say is-_:eek: That would freak me out!!

For me, worked all day, have 16 miler in morning. Starting at 0400, then have to go straight to work for some more cases. I hope they don't mind BO as I'm skipping the shower and going to get breakfast on the way instead. :p

MatterhornMiss

08-08-2009, 08:37 PM

Great job, nono!!! :cheerleader:

I just got done with a run. Since I finished my last training schedule, and haven't sat down to plan my next, I didn't have a set distance. I knew I wanted to run at least 5 miles, and maybe up to 7 miles again. I was going to run early this morning, but when I woke up at 6 am, I knew I didn't have the energy to do that much. So I waited until close to sunset (about 8:15 pm) to set out. I was wanting to run an easy pace--around 11:30 to 12 min/mile. But at the end of my first mile, my watch read 10:03! :oweye: And I thought I was in a pretty easy, smooth pace--I felt really comfortable. So I tried to slow it down some. 2nd mile--10:08. Not really any slower. :confused24: So, I figured, I'm feeling good--I'm actually feeling like I'm working less than I did on Thursday at a slower pace, why worry too much about it. Anyway, somewhere in the 3rd mile I began having a different sort of cramp than I did last week--this time it came from putting too much wheat germ in my waffle batter this morning, followed by a Fiber 1 bar, and whole grain toast on my veggie sandwich. Not a great diet choice on the day of a run :blush:. THAT did slow me down a smidge--my 3rd mile was 11:30. In all, I ran just over 6 miles in 68 mins--for 11:12 min/mile average. Not too bad for not having a plan. I would have run at least 7 miles, but by my fourth mile, it was getting dark and the area is not well lit. I didn't feel comfortable running where I couldn't see.

I really need to plan the next several weeks' training schedule. . .

nono

08-09-2009, 06:17 AM

Cool stuff MM!

Have fun on the ship, Mr & Mrs Stimpy!!!

Got my 11 mi in this morning. Ran 8 of the miles topless. Just had to...my shirt was sticking to me after the first 3 and it felt like an oven in there! When I dropped my dog off, I left the shirt behind. :eek:

Hope everyone has some great miles out there today!

DisneyGeek

08-09-2009, 10:44 AM

So gun time it is, and it was still a PR. http://www.runningahead.com/images/forum/emo_smile_shades.gif

:cheerleader:AWESOME, oh wow, like totally freak me out! :cheerleader: Nice job. :thumbsup2:

Sorry to hear about the timing issues and best of luck with your intensified training!

Ran 8 of the miles topless. Just had to...

I wonder if Viking is around, that seems to really beg a response!

Mr. Roz

08-09-2009, 12:07 PM

Had a grueling 16 mile run this am,with pick ups the last 6 miles, no less. Heat was horrible, had very little sleep, still recovering from some impromptu tempo work(caught in a lightning storm), you name it.:blech: Good thing I had my running partners with me. Our friend Missy and the ever encouraging Roz. (The sing alongs were too funny):rotfl2:

If you have a chance to have a running partner or can catch on with a running group, please do. My running took a great improvement once I had someone to pace with. ( once I could keep up with her) You take turns helping each other stay motivated and focused.:poke: Your pace increases because your pushing each other. They keep the mood up and positive.:yahoo:

mickeyndvcfan

08-09-2009, 02:13 PM

:yahoo: GREAT JOB NONO!!! .......... on your 5K pr and your racy run this morning.:rotfl2:

Rozzie

08-09-2009, 02:14 PM

Hey Nono, I've been running "topless" for 3 months now. There is no way I would have survived if I had not. We just come back drenched with sweat, like we've jumped in pool and kept running. I know my shoes squek with water I sweat so much sometimes. :blech: So no worries going topless, it's all about survival. Plus you got a much better bod' than me! ;)

"Grueling" is a typcial description of my LRs. Today was insane. My piriformis decided to throw me for a loop and wig out on me. (for those who are new on ship it's a ongoing battle with me) So I had to stop every few miles and do yoga moves on the side of the road. I finished though, all I could think was I am going to finish this, come hell or high water. Slowest pace yet but I did not freakin' care, it was all about finishing. The speed work at the end almost had me once and for all. I had grass stuck to me all over my body from rolling around on the side of the road (and a lot of intresting honks from cars :scratchchin: ) and then got caught in rain going into hospital without umbrella. I did not switch my clothes, I was almost hallucinating from misery--so did my emergency case with grass still stuck to me. Luckily I can hide behind a large surgical gown. So back to yoga. I have been slacking this week in it, and HA! Guess what? Bit me in the arse, literally. :rolleyes:

MM, yes you need a running plan. I can't run without one. If I did not have a calendar in front of me pushing me everyday would be a 3 mile recovery run. :grin:

MatterhornMiss

08-09-2009, 03:32 PM

Rozzie

08-09-2009, 04:00 PM

Workin' on the schedule right now :thumbsup2: Just a question, not that I am anywhere near this, but once I reach my target, then what? How does one plan a schedule once one has consistently been running target distances?

Mr. Roz (and others) what are pick-ups?

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I think Nono can help you the most making out a schedule. She is the queen of schedule making. I pay someone to figure out what I need on what days. ;) The thing about running is there always always always room for improvement. Running at a faster pace, running longer distances, etc. Have you ever gone over the the Mcmilllian Calculator? (sp?) I'll try to get on the laptop later and see if I can provide you a link (the dinosaur mainframe won't let me cut and paste web addresses for some weird reason)--anyhoo it's a real neat site that tells you what your target pace should be for recovery runs, tempo runs, long runs, etc. Also has a place there where it can help you make out a schedule. I think you will get a lot out of the site. :)

Oh, and "pickups" are exactly how it sounds. You pick it up (increase speed) at random intervals, kinda like a fartlek but not as planned out. What pick ups do is helps prevent dead legs and the marathon shuffle you can fall into after so many miles. Also awakens muscle fibers and increases blood flow enabling you to...well pick it up. :grin:

Rozzie

08-09-2009, 05:01 PM

MM-here is the site. Just plug in your best time of last race or distance.

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm

nono

08-09-2009, 06:57 PM

Workin' on the schedule right now :thumbsup2: Just a question, not that I am anywhere near this, but once I reach my target, then what? How does one plan a schedule once one has consistently been running target distances?

OK, so some questions (since I was volunteered :D ).

When is your target race?
What's the race distance?
How many miles a week are you running as you peak for the race?
How many days a week do you run?

Do you have a target race for after this first one? Or are you going to be on maintenance for awhile?

If you can let me know these things, I can make some suggestions for sure. And, I won't care a bit if you don't choose to follow them! :goodvibes:

Mr. Roz

08-09-2009, 08:49 PM

Workin' on the schedule right now :thumbsup2: Just a question, not that I am anywhere near this, but once I reach my target, then what? How does one plan a schedule once one has consistently been running target distances?

Mr. Roz (and others) what are pick-ups?

Something must be in the air, Roz, because I've been slacking on the yoga, too.

And as for the topless, I'm going to assume (maybe naively) that nono and Roz keep their bras on :blush:. If my sports bra didn't look so much like a regular bra, I'd love to run without a top. My top rides up above my belly button as it is, so it's probably not covering a whole lot more.

Ugh--today was my food splurge day and I feel horrible :blech:. I get so excited on days I don't count calories, that I forget that restaurant portions are at least 3x larger what I'm used to eating in one setting. I had a burrito and chips from Qdoba and a blizzard from Dairy Queen--I couldn't finish any of it. I don't think I'll eat again for a couple of days.
Our pick ups this week were at ten minute intervals and lasted for a duration of 1-3 minutes. At mile ten we picked up our speed to our "T" Pace or Thresh hold pace( 8:15-8:25) and held it for one minute with a one minute recovery, Repeat, Then Had a pickup of three minutes with a 7 minute recovery and repeated the process. So our pick ups were 1,1,3,1,1, and 3 over an hour period.

Confused?:confused24: Don't worry.Translation- run faster every ten minutes for one-three minutes.

patdaddy

08-10-2009, 06:08 AM

The DL Half is less than a month away. I’ve been off-track for a month after tweaking my left knee…not sure exactly what I did except it seemed more about repetitive stress than a single incident. Self-directed reading suggests ITBS is the culprit. So I’ve laid off and done ice, ibuprofen & stretching all July. Still feels a *little* funny but worlds of improvement nonetheless.

My living circumstances have changed (which I don’t much want to get into) and finding a time & place to run has been difficult the past week and will continue to be difficult for another two weeks. I’m already up at 4:30 am M-F, busy till 4 pm, and I’m in a community theatre production that techs this week and opens Friday for a 2-week run---with an early call and the associated commute, that eats up 6-10 pm. There’s NOWEHERE near my current (temporary) residence to run. I don’t know what I’m going to do. Getting up at 3 am 2-3 days a week for the next two weeks seems like the only workable option, and that’s stretching the definition of “workable.”

After days of trying I finally managed yesterday to get in my first run in forever, and it was a relative disaster. I ran with a brace. There was some discomfort but no real pain; the knee felt better as I went along and has no complaints today---actually it feels better than it has in weeks. But my only window to run was midday…in central Alabama in August, on a day we might have had an air quality warning in effect. I needed to do 4 miles and crapped out after only 2. If I’d only had to deal with the sun, that would have been one thing, but I could feel the heat rising off the asphalt in waves---I bailed because I was afraid I’d give myself heatstroke if I went any further.

The longest run I’ve put in to date is 8 miles. Training has become incredibly complicated to fit into my schedule. I don’t think there’s any way I’ll be able to come close to scheduling a 13-miler prior to the event, which trip is already bought & paid for (& non-refundable). If I still had access to a treadmill I think I’d forego running outdoors just to lessen the stress on the knee, but that’s not currently available. I’m a little freaked out. But I’m going to train as well as I can and hope for the best. A friend of mine ran a marathon a couple years ago more or less on a whim: no training to speak of, she just thought she’d see if she could do it, and she did. One of those circumstances in which not knowing what one *cannot* do is a blessing, I guess.

As long as I train in moderation and can refrain from injuring myself I think I’ll be okay. I’m no speed demon but I can manage a 10-11 min/mile pace up to 8 miles, with more left in the tank. One thing in my favor is I’m training in far less friendly conditions than the event will actually run in---even when I’ve gotten in evening runs starting as late as 9 pm the temp’s been close to 90 degrees with insane levels of humidity; starting @6 am in southern Cal should be considerably more pleasant. At the moment I’m planning on just *stopping* at the 8-mile-marker, re-tying my shoes, taking a deep breath, and treating the last 5 as a second leg…

Ugh. Discouraged. Excited. Hopeful.

nono

08-10-2009, 08:18 AM

The longest run I’ve put in to date is 8 miles. Training has become incredibly complicated to fit into my schedule. I don’t think there’s any way I’ll be able to come close to scheduling a 13-miler prior to the event, which trip is already bought & paid for (& non-refundable). If I still had access to a treadmill I think I’d forego running outdoors just to lessen the stress on the knee, but that’s not currently available. I’m a little freaked out.

Don't freak out. I would try to get up super early and run a bit as it sounds like your life is incredibly stressful at the moment, and if nothing else, running will help with that.

A lot of short little runs is basically what an "active recovery" from an injury is all about. Since you felt better after your run, that gives you data that you can continue doing 2 milers...then try for an occasional 3, etc. At this point, I think it would be UNWISE to try to put a 13 miler in your schedule. If you can get to a point where you can do another 8 or 9 mile long run about a week before the race, that would be good. There's no point in a taper for a half marathon anyways (go ahead peanut gallery throw :tomato:) but esp. since you are rebuilding after injury, there's certainly no need.

Again, do lots of short runs, perhaps a few even back-to-back (hey, you only have to get up 25 min earlier in your day at your pace!). One 8 or 9 miler (If your knee is up to it) the weekend before your race.

DON'T push through any pain that resurfaces though, OK?

Mr. Roz

08-10-2009, 08:57 AM

Don't freak out. I would try to get up super early and run a bit as it sounds like your life is incredibly stressful at the moment, and if nothing else, running will help with that.

A lot of short little runs is basically what an "active recovery" from an injury is all about. Since you felt better after your run, that gives you data that you can continue doing 2 milers...then try for an occasional 3, etc. At this point, I think it would be UNWISE to try to put a 13 miler in your schedule. If you can get to a point where you can do another 8 or 9 mile long run about a week before the race, that would be good. There's no point in a taper for a half marathon anyways (go ahead peanut gallery throw :tomato:) but esp. since you are rebuilding after injury, there's certainly no need.

Again, do lots of short runs, perhaps a few even back-to-back (hey, you only have to get up 25 min earlier in your day at your pace!). One 8 or 9 miler (If your knee is up to it) the weekend before your race.

DON'T push through any pain that resurfaces though, OK?
Patdaddy, I agree with NoNo, do some short runs with one or two longer runs. When I was pushing through pain issues and still needed to put the mileage in, I would do a lot of out and backs. If I was to put in 5 miles, I would go out 3 and come back with walking my last mile in for a total of 6 miles. This would give me a mile cool down and if the pain was too much, I could still get my distance in. We all have gone through and will continue to go through, tough times, but stay with it! For me the alternative to not running, is always much more bleak than my current situation. The sacrifices you make now are only temporary and will make the finish line much brighter.

withdisneyspirit

08-10-2009, 11:05 AM

Hi there, I agree with nono too, especially the part about getting up early to get your run in. I also live in Central Alabama, specifically in Birmingham :goodvibes: Midday is a really tough time for a run outside here :eek: If you are in Birmingham, I can make a suggestion for a great place to run in the Homewood area, complete with water fountain and port-a-pot :grin:

Remember too, that when you get to DL, that they give you up to a 16 minute mile pace and you can put those miles in however you want to help your knee along. What helps me so much with my knees is to do a run/walk pacing (or, in my case a walk/run pacing, lol). It truly saves my joints!!

I will be rooting for you :cheerleader: as I'm sure all the other Peacocks here will too!!!

MatterhornMiss

08-10-2009, 11:50 AM

OK, so some questions (since I was volunteered :D ).

When is your target race?
What's the race distance?
How many miles a week are you running as you peak for the race?
How many days a week do you run?
Do you have a target race for after this first one? Or are you going to be on maintenance for awhile?

If you can let me know these things, I can make some suggestions for sure. And, I won't care a bit if you don't choose to follow them! :goodvibes:

Um, I'm not sure. . . Thanks for the help, nono--should I be thinking of all this while still essentially building up my (initial) endurance? It seems complicated :confused:

My first "target race" is the RFTT 10K in October, then the Princess Half in March. I'm not counting 5Ks I made decide to run in between, since I'm running more than that on a regular day. I've been running 3 days a week, but that will increase next week to 4 days. The past two weeks I've run 14 miles total each week. The next few weeks, I'll be changing things up a bit--working on building speed with interval runs once a week with some "tempo" runs and longer distance runs still on Saturday.

DisneyGeek

08-10-2009, 12:04 PM

MM-here is the site.
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Interesting site!!! I just took a quick peek at it... Hmmm, what to do training wise. I suppose I should think about varying up my running instead of just ~3.30 hoping to get under 9:39 average pace [for my target of <=30min. for ToT 5k]. So far I've only managed that one time. This morning I had a AP of 10:05. Felt HORRIBLY hot & humid. Yahoo said 75 degrees and 84% humidity, but it felt a lot worse to this here Geek!!!

For that matter, I just need to get back to daily exercise (or at least 6 days outa' 7). I've been lucky to do every other day lately and that has been running only, NO cross training... Bad me, bad me! :poke:

DisneyGeek

08-10-2009, 12:12 PM

Ohhh- ohhh- can you 'do me' too???? :fingerscrossed:

When is your target race? 10/24/2009 (ToT!)
What's the race distance? 5k
How many miles a week are you running as you peak for the race? Uhh, probably try for 13.2 (4 x 3.3)???
How many days a week do you run? Current goal is 4, Mon-Wed-Thursday-Sat. [Weights/Elliptical Tue-Fri + Swim (or rest) on Sun.]

Do you have a target race for after this first one? NO

FYI, as I mentioned in a PP my goal is to try and break 30 min., but I've only done that pace once in a training run that was 5k or longer in length...

Thanks either way, even if the answer is "No, quit being so geeky and leave me alone!" :rotfl2:

DisneyGeek

08-10-2009, 12:25 PM

The DL Half is less than a month away. I’ve been off-track for a month after tweaking my left knee…

...

Ugh. Discouraged. Excited. Hopeful.

Sorry to hear about all the stress and troubles! :headbrickwall: I hope things turn around for you soon. :fingerscrossed: Break a leg in the theater sense when the curtain rises, but please don't do so literally, OK???

nono

08-10-2009, 12:31 PM

Um, I'm not sure. . . Thanks for the help, nono--should I be thinking of all this while still essentially building up my (initial) endurance? Not as a beginner. I thought your question was what do I do after the first big race. That's what I'm helping to answer for you. You don't need to think about this stuff now, but since you asked, let's kick around some ideas. :D

My first "target race" is the RFTT 10K in October, then the Princess Half in March. I'm not counting 5Ks I made decide to run in between, since I'm running more than that on a regular day. I've been running 3 days a week, but that will increase next week to 4 days. The past two weeks I've run 14 miles total each week. The next few weeks, I'll be changing things up a bit--working on building speed with interval runs once a week with some "tempo" runs and longer distance runs still on Saturday.

Cool. So here's what I would suggest. Day after RFTT, go out and run 2 miles. SLOWLY. Like 2-3 min/mile off your race pace. Take walk breaks if you want. But just get the blood flowing. Then take two rest days after that. No running. This will be your first BIG race, give yourself some time off. After those two days, if you want to run again, run some 2-3 milers the rest of the week. That's it!

I'm going to then suggest you go to a 14 day schedule of every other day running. So it would be: Tu-Th-Sa-Mo-We-Fr-Su for running. Can your lifestyle accomodate that? Let me know and if so I'll give you more of a concept of how I went from beginner to intermediate runner on that type of a plan.

nono

08-10-2009, 12:34 PM

Ohhh- ohhh- can you 'do me' too???? :fingerscrossed:

Thanks either way, even if the answer is "No, quit being so geeky and leave me alone!" :rotfl2:

Sure! Answer the questions, and I'll make suggestions! I am glad to help!

DisneyGeek

08-10-2009, 12:37 PM

Sure! Answer the questions, and I'll make suggestions! I am glad to help!

Cool! :D I did try embeding answers in my quote, but I should have made it more user-itt-able!

When is your target race? 10/24/2009 (ToT!)
What's the race distance? 5k
How many miles a week are you running as you peak for the race? Uhh, probably try for 13.2 (4 x 3.3)???
How many days a week do you run? Current goal is 4, Mon-Wed-Thursday-Sat. [Weights/Elliptical Tue-Fri + Swim (or rest) on Sun.]

Do you have a target race for after this first one? NO

FYI, my goal is to try and break 30 min., but I've only done that pace once (I did 9:35 for ~3.3 miles) in a training run that was 5k or longer in length...

DisneyGeek

08-10-2009, 01:01 PM

One other thing- I should probably mention (repeat?) that when I say "I ran 3.3 miles" I really mean "I did a combination of running and walking for a total of 3.3 miles". The average paces I usually quote (10:05 form this morning for instance) is the average for the entire distance including the walking...

Rozzie

08-10-2009, 02:09 PM

PatDaddy, another Bama girl here. (well from Bama not a Bama fan...:grin:) Your schedule sounds intense, but I think you could squeeze some running in. Sometimes you just have to get up way early to do it. I know this weekend for instance, I had to get up at 0245 to get my LR in since I had to work. No way was I doing it after work in the heat of the day. Not showing off, promise, but just telling you it is miserable getting up at that early--especially on a weekend--but you won't be alone. Misery loves company. :wave: There are lot of runners out there, successful runners, that juggle a full time schedule with training. You just have to be flexible and make sacrifices. And for me the sacrifice is usually sleep 99% of the time. I also learned to run late at night during the summer. We never run in our neighborhood, we drive about 10 min away to a nicer area that is more favorable toward running. Some hills, less traffic, better scenery. :)

As for the knee, I think you are going to surprise yourself and have a great race. Do you use a foam roller? When I was having ITB issues it was a life saver to me. Just remember that there is nothing wrong with taking walk breaks, I know when I finally allowed myself to walk some during my LR's incredibly I could go further and further on my knee. Good luck to you and keep us posted!! :fingerscrossed:

MatterhornMiss

08-10-2009, 03:08 PM

Not as a beginner. I thought your question was what do I do after the first big race. That's what I'm helping to answer for you. You don't need to think about this stuff now, but since you asked, let's kick around some ideas. :D

Cool. So here's what I would suggest. Day after RFTT, go out and run 2 miles. SLOWLY. Like 2-3 min/mile off your race pace. Take walk breaks if you want. But just get the blood flowing. Then take two rest days after that. No running. This will be your first BIG race, give yourself some time off. After those two days, if you want to run again, run some 2-3 milers the rest of the week. That's it!

I'm going to then suggest you go to a 14 day schedule of every other day running. So it would be: Tu-Th-Sa-Mo-We-Fr-Su for running. Can your lifestyle accomodate that? Let me know and if so I'll give you more of a concept of how I went from beginner to intermediate runner on that type of a plan.

Thanks for all the help. Man--run the day after RFTT?!? I was planning on taking that day off :D (but I was going to run for 20 or 30 mins the next day--SSR good for running?)

I can run 4 times a week, but I don't know if every other day will work for me. Wednesdays are (at least right now--things might change in October) pretty busy days, so I can't get much of anything squeezed in there. I've been running TThSat, but am (starting this week) doing TThSatSun (easy run). I guess I could explain my (new) general week's schedule:

Monday-yoga
Tuesday-intervals
Wednesday-rest
Thursday-10K pace run (I think it starts out just running 20 mins, but then over 8 wks increasing to 30 mins)
Friday-rest
Saturday-long(er) distance running (starting around 3 or 4 miles and going to 7--I feel kinda weird going back to these distances, but since I'm running more during the week, I'd rather stick to the plan than go to far)
Sunday-easy 30 mins

I can switch days around except for Wednesday--and it is best if my longer runs are on the weekend. This will pretty much take me to the week or so before RFTT--let me know what you think. After I get back from WDW, then I'll come up with a plan for the 1/2.

Oh, and I actually did my 45 mins of yoga today like I was supposed to. :cheerleader:

Rozzie

08-10-2009, 04:11 PM

MM, it's always a good rule of thumb to run very light and easy the day after a race. It helps the lactic acid move out and you to be less sore. DOMS (Delayed Onset Muscle Sorness) is what you are trying to avoid, and it is seems to be at its peak at 48 hours for most people. So that's why we always take off the 48 hours after a race, but jog lightly the day after. :) I promise it really helps.

Rozzie

08-10-2009, 04:41 PM

Meant to add--we tend to follow the above guideline for shorter distance races--5ks 10ks. Just one theory out there, you do what works best for your body of course. :-)
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nono

08-10-2009, 04:51 PM

I can switch days around except for Wednesday--and it is best if my longer runs are on the weekend. This will pretty much take me to the week or so before RFTT--let me know what you think. After I get back from WDW, then I'll come up with a plan for the 1/2.

This is great! :thumbsup2: It is too early to say what you should do for maintenance or your next training cycle as we don't know what distance you'll be covering in your allotted time. You mileage totals the last 3 weeks will be very important, so please keep track of them. (a notebook is fine!)

I have a funny feeling you'll make a lot of leaps forward between now and RFTT.

P.S. DG, I'll get to you tonight -- trying to cook dinner for the family! They all look like this --> :eating:

patdaddy

08-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Thanks @nono, the Roz's & withdisneyspirit for the input & support.

It’s going to be hard to restrict myself to just 2 miles to start with, esp if I’m getting up early enough that it’s the only decent time of day to get out & run---really, if I don’t do 4, I feel like I haven’t *done* anything. But I’m way too close to want to do anything stupid to knock myself out of the running, so “active recovery” mode it is. When *finishing* is winning enough, slow & steady is definitely the way to go. I’ve done 8, which was enough to convince me to go for the DL Half…I’d’ve liked to go the full distance before the event, but if I can hit 8-9, I can be satisfied. I don’t think my conditioning has COMPLETELY gone to pot in the last month even though I’d only been at it a few months before the pain set in (though I have put a little belly flab back on during the time off).

Agreed that the running is great for stress relief. I also continue to be amazed what it does for my energy level: if I’m running 20 miles weekly I can definitely do more on less. I really like that, especially when I’m having trouble getting more than 4 hours sleep a night.

@withdisneyspirit---I’m happy to take recommendations. I’ve been living in Irondale the past 12 years; at the moment I’m temporarily relocated to Inverness right off the 459/280 interchange while looking for a new residence. As a local you can probably appreciate what that locale means to someone looking for a place to run (at the very least, a mandatory commute).

I’m certainly taking your words to heart, Mr. Roz. Right now…yeah, things are bleak. The DL Half is the only thing in the immediate-to-intermediate future I have to look forward to. I’m pretty sure I’ll be committing the un-manly act of bursting into tears at the finish line.

It’s really nice to have a cheering section here. I’ll be making the trip & the run alone, and the couple friends I have in the area, fond of me as they are, are *highly* unlikely to get out of bed and make the drive from Van Nuys to see me finish before 9 am on a Sunday…

Rozzie---what is this foam roller of which you speak? (And just out of curiosity, where on the AL Gulf are y’all at? One of my best friends is an Orange Beach native. Personally I tend toward Dauphin Island when I’m LA-bound---more gas rigs on the horizon, but less developed & crowded than the eastern shore of Mobile Bay & beyond; low-rent & funky is more my scene than, say, the Grand…unless it’s a Disney trip!).

nono

08-10-2009, 05:49 PM

low-rent & funky is more my scene

Welcome to my world!

http://www.wildwoodsnj.com/

Rozzie

08-10-2009, 07:01 PM

Patdaddy-LOL on the low rent and funky. You just described Baldwin County of yesteryear. Those days are gone for sure, but being from BC, we still know all the local dives. They are getting hard to find as the rich folk developers are taking over. Really sad to see the true character get "sold" out. We live on the Eastern Shore and really enjoy the area for running. On Sundays we do our LR in Fairhope along the water and run up to the Grand. The Grand is a very special place to me, I grew up with my grandparents always taking me there for brunch. It's like they are still here when we ride down there for brunch, weird I know. We also honeymooned there, very nice place indeed. :thumbsup2: Keep checking in with us and let us know your progress. I'll try to dig up a foam roller link sometime tonight for you. You are always welcome to come to the Coast and do a few runs with us. :) Funny how we have so many Bama folk for Peacocks. :grin:

Track workout tonight was a tour through hell. It must have been every bit of mid 90s, heat index I think I heard was triple digits. My RP had to sit a 1000 out as she started getting goose bumps. I was off on all my times by almost 10-20 seconds. It was pure survival. I am so SICK OF SUMMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :blech: BTW, Mr Roz hit all his times, teacher's pet. :poke:

nono

08-11-2009, 04:38 AM

Cool! :D I did try embeding answers in my quote, but I should have made it more user-itt-able!

When is your target race? 10/24/2009 (ToT!)
What's the race distance? 5k
How many miles a week are you running as you peak for the race? Uhh, probably try for 13.2 (4 x 3.3)???
How many days a week do you run? Current goal is 4, Mon-Wed-Thursday-Sat. [Weights/Elliptical Tue-Fri + Swim (or rest) on Sun.]
Do you have a target race for after this first one? NO

FYI, my goal is to try and break 30 min., but I've only done that pace once (I did 9:35 for ~3.3 miles) in a training run that was 5k or longer in length...

OK, DG, here you go. I love what your are doing, but I need you to take one real rest day. So, if that means 1 running day a week gets given up for swimming, that's OK. Swimming is not REST. But it is very good non-impact cardio and is very good to loosen the ligaments and tendons you use running, so I'd like you to keep it in your schedule if you can!

So, now we have 13.5 miles a week to divide up. (Notice how you don't get rid of the mileage just because you are running less days? :rotfl2:)

I'd suggest distributing them like this: M - 4 mi, Th- 4 mi, Sun -5.5 mi. Now, that would be your goal. This schedule would also make Wednesday your rest day. If you aren't currently doing 13.5 mi, work up to this schedule. Don't worry about speed until the week or two after you are completing this without walking any. Then you can throw in random speed bursts (fartleks) on the Monday run, attempt a tempo run on Thursday (pick a pace and keep it -- make it do-able and not your race goal pace) and Sunday keep it about 1 - 1 1/2 min off your goal pace. And, keep up your cross-training.

I should note I'd be even more comfortable with this plan if your Monday run could move to Tuesday, with Monday being Weights/Elliptical, but I understand if you don't want to/can't move it. Just realize that your Monday run, being after Sunday should only incorporate very few, random, bursts until you are quite comfortable with the 5.5 mi distance the day before.

Many of the 5K plans out there are either for people with no cross-training or experience (which you now have!) or are for really sharpening once you've decided the 5K is your sweet spot. Since you are still determining this, just have fun and get your rest day in!!! And having gone "more than the distance" every single practice makes for a very comfortable mental state on race day. :goodvibes:

See you at the ToT races!!!

Rozzie

08-11-2009, 04:49 AM

Good points Nono. Reminds me that there are lot of very fast successful runners who specialize in 5Ks. I am thinking of a guy now on Coach's racing team, he puts in the high mileage, but he just loves cranking it in 5Ks. He is the top Master for men in our area. He said he's done Fulls, HMs, but he's experienced enough to know his favorite, and by golly he'll do his favorite and enjoy his life. Right on! :thumbsup2: Me, I haven't really decided on a favorite race distance yet--going to make that decision after a few fulls. Right now I like the 8K distance. Just enough speed where it's not a flat out sprint, but enough distance to where you have to use your head. Over quick. :D

nono

08-11-2009, 06:41 AM

Rozzie, I'm still trying to figure out where my sweet spot is too! I bet it will change over time. I'm also trying to figure out if I'm a slow twitch girl, fast twitch girl or a combo. And now, someone just pointed me to a study where there's two types of one of the twitch fibers. It's enough to make my head bleed! :grin:

And, I haven't found any studies or theories which combine body type and predominant twitch fibers. 'Cause I have a sneaking suspicion body type plays into all this. I think I have a decent amount of fast twitch fibers in my big muscles. But, because of my body type, I think I end up quite comfortable at longer distances due to my natural "fuel belt" around my hips/legs. I'm going to ask around to see if anyone's ever looked at body type, not just muscle fiber twitch.... Hmmmm.....

Mr. Roz

08-11-2009, 11:34 AM

I think I end up quite comfortable at longer distances due to my natural "fuel belt" around my hips/legs. I'm going to ask around to see if anyone's ever looked at body type, not just muscle fiber twitch.... Hmmmm.....[/QUOTE]

NoNo,If you have a "fuel belt", I have "fuel tanks":grin:

DisneyGeek

08-11-2009, 11:52 AM

OK, DG, here you go. I love what your are doing, but I need you to take one real rest day. So, if that means 1 running day a week gets given up for swimming, that's OK. Swimming is not REST. But it is very good non-impact cardio and is very good to loosen the ligaments and tendons you use running, so I'd like you to keep it in your schedule if you can!
...

First off, THANKS for the input! :D Point taken & very true on swimming NOT being rest. :silly: I'm a bit nervous about that 5.5 miles distance since I've NEVER gone that far, but I can give it a try... :scratchchin:

It's easiest for me to keep Sunday as swim day due to the crowd level at the gym I joined. That said, I don't really want to do weights after a swim day because I use my upper body a LOT more swimming than when running. So maybe I'll try this:

Sunday: 30 min. lap swim
Monday: Run 4 miles (fartleks once I'm no longer doing any walking {that might be a little while :confused:})
Tuesday: Weights [upper body] / elliptical mix to total 30 min.
Wednesday: REST DAY
Thursday: Run 4 miles (tempo - around 10:15 / mile?)
Friday: Weights [upper body] / elliptical mix to total 30 min.
Saturday: Run 5.5 miles :scared07: (slower pace - around 11 / mile?)

This week I had to switch things up a touch (that didn't take long from last night, did it?) and this morning ended up a rest day... Think doing my typical 3.3 tomorrow and trying for closer to 4 Thursday {need to figure out a course change since my current one is a loop, not a 'simple' out & back} might be a good catch-up?
On second thought, maybe I try for 4 miles Wed. morning, weights/ellip Thursday, extra rest day Friday and then coming off of that try my first long run??? Hmm, decisions, decisions...

nono

08-11-2009, 12:06 PM

DG, looks like a good plan. What I would do for the 5.5 is plan to walk it out a bit a couple times, then eventually do the whole thing running in a couple weeks...but you already have the miles in ya, you are just redistributing. :) Look, you get a full day off now... :p

BTW, your target paces look awesome! You are a natural at this, aren't you???!!!!

DisneyGeek

08-11-2009, 12:12 PM

BTW, your target paces look awesome! You are a natural at this, aren't you???!!!!

Well, I suppose it's in my blood what with my mom, dad, and brother all being runners and coaching track & cross country... I just hesitate to try and get advice from them because I find this group so supportive, realistic, & forgiving! :thumbsup2:

withdisneyspirit

08-11-2009, 03:04 PM

@withdisneyspirit---I’m happy to take recommendations. I’ve been living in Irondale the past 12 years; at the moment I’m temporarily relocated to Inverness right off the 459/280 interchange while looking for a new residence. As a local you can probably appreciate what that locale means to someone looking for a place to run (at the very least, a mandatory commute).

You live almost exactly where I live :w00t: Funny, huh?! Anyway, the place I mentioned in Homewood is my choice for Saturday LR's. You would need to tell me the area of town in which you work for me to think of other recommendations. Just so you can see though, here is a link to a site that talks about Lakeshore Trail. They have not connected the trail with Jemison Trail yet but it is a full 5 miles roundtrip and there are ways to make it quite a bit longer.

http://www.homewoodchamber.org/content.asp?id=81557

MatterhornMiss

08-11-2009, 05:23 PM

Well, I took the day off today (because I really didn't want to work on my birthday). I got up to do my first day of interval work. I was only 3x400m, but I was flying! I'm excited--even though they are short distances, it is so fun to know I can push my body like that! Then I took the rest of the day to spend way too much money buying new clothes (I guess that is the downside of losing weight--clothes don't fit anymore).

:party1:Happy birthday Roz, birthday buddy :drunkard:!!!

withdisneyspirit

08-11-2009, 07:29 PM

Rozzie

08-12-2009, 04:37 AM

I flip flopped my day off from running so I only had to work yesterday then had night off for fun. :) Tonight it's back to work, 8 miles. Have I mentioned I will be sooooooooo glad when it cools off?

Happy Birthday MM! :goodvibes: I fell off the wagon headfirst myself. Only 2 beers, but cheese dip and then marble slab ice cream. I did pick up at Barnes and Noble a few cool running and nutrition books. Nono, weren't you reading Once a Runner? Also picked up this eating book, called The End of Overeating. It's a revealing look into the mass over processed food industry with some great reviews. It's supposed to change the way I look at food. Hopefully...:fingerscrossed:

nono

08-12-2009, 04:08 PM

Nono, weren't you reading Once a Runner?

Yes. Good book. Fiction. :thumbsup2:

MatterhornMiss

08-12-2009, 07:48 PM

I fell off the wagon headfirst myself. Only 2 beers, but cheese dip and then marble slab ice cream.

Hey, it's your birthday--it only comes once a year! If that's not a reason to endulge, I don't know what is! We don't have marble slab in Louisville (maggie moos either--:boohoohoo:), so I endulged in Coldstone instead. Cake batter ice cream really must be a sin, I think.

On a wonderful note, I finally heard back from my sister. She is in for the Princess Half!!! :yahoo:I am so surprised--she only signed up for this triathalon in Chicago last week (not much of a planner--we are soooo opposite). Granted, neither of us have registered yet, but once we do, that fee is nonrefundable, so we got 'er!

We spent a while talking about running (of course). She said it was never really believed in our family that any of its members could compete in something like an endurance race. She sees all kinds of families training for races or tri's (she works part-time doing kids' exercise programs at the Y) and feels we missed out on something as children. I told her I never thought I could run either; "I know you make fun of my love of WDW, but if it weren't for it, I would've never started running." She told me I shouldn't make fun of the beer line after the race because some people only start running for the party afterwards ;) (there is even a set of races in Nashville, where she lives, called something like Run for the Party). So, no more making fun of the post race party! If beer could motivate this nation to be healthier (sort of ironic, eh?), then drinks all around! :drunkard:

DisneyGeek

08-12-2009, 07:48 PM

Had a good day today (well, except maybe diet wise...)!

Anyway, started this morning with a 3.51 miles run that I did ZERO walking during!!! :cheerleader: Tried for a 10:15 tempo run; did that exactly as my average for the first 3.47 miles! (I fluctuated some in pace but I kept trying to adjust myself back to 10:15...) A short sprint for the last 249.58 feet at 5:15 / mile (yikes!!! Sometimes I wonder if my Garmin says that just to mess with my head...) and that averaged things out to 10:11 for the whole run. Guess I need to experiment more to find a 4 mile route so I can follow nono's plan for me... :scratchchin:

Then at work my team went out for lunch with our boss & his boss who were in from NJ. Went to Bahama Breeze; I love their Creole Baked Goat Cheese appetizer... :eating:

And then in the afternoon I had my annual review. It went well, especially considering the current economy! :thumbsup2:

I even broke character and had a beer tonight :biggulp: a few minutes ago + I will probably have one tomorrow after work with a group who's heading out with the bosses and some other visiting employees from other offices! Frankly, I'm more excited about getting some SPICY boneless chicken wings, but when in Rome...:drunkard:

Hope everyone else is doing well! :wave:

MatterhornMiss

08-13-2009, 04:47 AM

Just finished my 2 mi tempo run--able to average a 9:45-9:50 min/mile!

nono

08-13-2009, 06:53 AM

DG & MM,

:yahoo::yahoo:!!!!

Six recovery paced miles for me today. I'm hanging on by a thread. Every injury I've ever had reminded me of itself today. REALLY! I look like I've been toilet-papered with Bright Blue toilet paper. It's my Kinesio tape (why oh why did they have to be out of black when I ordered it?) After the first two miles, I brought the dog back and taped myself silly and went back out. I'm sure more than one person on the boardwalk thought: "If ya got that much wrong with ya, why are you running?" :rotfl2:

BUT, the good news is by the last mile, I felt good. So, now the sacrament of icing is commencing, followed by the ice cold shower. :scared07:

Keep up the good running/walking/cross-training everyone!!!

:driver:

soozaay

08-13-2009, 07:45 AM

nono

08-13-2009, 08:03 AM

hi guys
bad news...well bad news for the January Fun Run 5k.....DH & I have to cancel. We just found out that his brother is getting married that weekend....in Vegas. So, we're cancelling our SSR ressie (which is ok, cuz we can use our points for our trip in October)...but we have to eat our 5k registration fees. Thank God we didn't book our air yet...$80 is hard enough to eat (registration fees)...airline tickets are a whole other thing. Good luck everyone with whatever run you'll be doing....whole, 1/2, challenge, 5k....I hope to meet up with you guys SOMEDAY!

Ah, eventually, running will take over your life and you will have no friends. So you won't get invited to anything other than other races ('cause no one will hang out with you but runner and walkers...) Therefore, this "losing race fees" is just a short time problem, assuming you are still going to be out there walking and running. :poke:

soozaay

08-13-2009, 08:44 AM

... assuming you are still going to be out there walking and running. :poke:

Absolutely!!! Haven't felt better in years! Disney in October (2010) will be a whole new experience...being healthy and all!

nono

08-13-2009, 11:41 AM

Quite possibly the best news ever for post-race organizers who get flack for serving beer:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6014310/Beer-could-stop-bones-going-brittle.html

:biggulp:

Colorado Belle

08-13-2009, 12:57 PM

Soozay....oh no, can't believe you have to cancel. But do you think Gail (who is thinking about doing this after her mom's 80th birthday party) might be able to 'take' your registration?

And Gail...if you come down alone instead of with fam, do you want to share a room?

Congrats to everyone on their fantastic runs!

I was wondering for Newbies and 5k:
if we plan on walk/running it, should we 'kick it' the last bit? And if so, when should we start our 'kick'? (in kilometers)

soozaay

08-13-2009, 01:12 PM

Soozay....oh no, can't believe you have to cancel. But do you think Gail (who is thinking about doing this after her mom's 80th birthday party) might be able to 'take' your registration?

I would love to say yes...but since we're going in October 2010 too...we'll be using those points to possibly get a Grand Villa instead of a 2-bedroom/1-bedroom.

Rozzie

08-13-2009, 02:00 PM

Quite possibly the best news ever for post-race organizers who get flack for serving beer:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6014310/Beer-could-stop-bones-going-brittle.html

:biggulp:

:thumbsup2: :biggulp:

Rozzie

08-13-2009, 02:01 PM

MatterhornMiss

08-13-2009, 02:35 PM

I'm sure more than one person on the boardwalk thought: "If ya got that much wrong with ya, why are you running?"

Sounds like you might have been one of those people, too, nono. . .

Hope you get to feeling better soon! If not, maybe you might think about taking some of that great advice you give to the rest of us. ;)

soozaay

08-13-2009, 02:39 PM

Sadly the registrations are non transferable. :(

stupid me thought cb was talking about our room ressie....the race registrations we have to eat...better get a big glass of :biggulp: to wash it down!

nono

08-13-2009, 04:14 PM

Sounds like you might have been one of those people, too, nono. . .

Hope you get to feeling better soon! If not, maybe you might think about taking some of that great advice you give to the rest of us. ;)

No worries MM -- I'm just trying to hang on thru Sunday. Next week is a serious cut-back week! WHOO HOO! And if it starts early -- that's OK. But, I gotta at least try to get my plan in...my bod will tell me where I'm at tomorrow. I did get a serious nap in for 2 hrs this afternoon with the kids. That helped a bit. :)

mickeyndvcfan

08-13-2009, 06:11 PM

And Gail...if you come down alone instead of with fam, do you want to share a room?

CB...I have already had an offer to bunk with someone else if I go solo, but if anything changes I will let you know. I'm really hoping that I can convince DH that if he self medicates we can get him on the plane. :rotfl2:

mickeyndvcfan

08-13-2009, 06:26 PM

I have to admit that I haven't been walking like I should have been but after yesterday and today I don't feel guilty anymore. I was babysitting my g-kids (4 & 2 yr. olds) and then going to work (2nd shift) with only a few hours of sleep. Sooo, I have been getting quite a workout with them. At least it was a kick in the butt for me to get myself going since I have to start seriously training next week for the half in Nov.

nono

08-13-2009, 09:11 PM

CB...I have already had an offer to bunk with someone else if I go solo, but if anything changes I will let you know. I'm really hoping that I can convince DH that if he self medicates we can get him on the plane. :rotfl2:

He only needs to be able to walk on all 4s if you are flying Continental out of Newark....not that I have any experience in this area....:o

jiggerj

08-14-2009, 03:52 AM

5 Miles A Day

Don't you think it's time we all became more physically active? Beginning June 1st, a few friends & I will be riding 5 miles every day.

If any of you would like to join our Bike Club, please let me know and we can make arrangements.

I think it would be appropriate to ride somewhere between 4:00 and 7:00 pm. We can call it happy hour, and pick you up on the way.Let me know if this works for you.

I have attached a photo of my bike.

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=365359e715&view=att&th=123159d78b7aaa95&attid=0.1&disp=emb&zw

Rozzie

08-14-2009, 04:33 AM

No worries MM -- I'm just trying to hang on thru Sunday. .

This is what my whole week is about. Survive Sunday (LR) then start over. Survive till' Sunday, start over. I have gotten to the point now I can't look at my schedule a week in advance or I would crack. Funny you said the same thing, it's nice to know I'm not alone! :p

Gail I have no worries about you and your training. You have proved that you can do anything when you set your mind to it. You are going to do great. :hug1: All you need to do now is convince the Eagles to drop Vick......

mickeyndvcfan

08-14-2009, 07:53 AM

Gail I have no worries about you and your training. You have proved that you can do anything when you set your mind to it. You are going to do great. :hug1: All you need to do now is convince the Eagles to drop Vick......

I'm with you on the Vick thing, I almost fell over when I found out about it last night. But we do know that the Eagles won't hesitate to let you go if you don't behave.

DisneyGeek

08-14-2009, 10:52 AM

BUT, the good news is by the last mile, I felt good.

Sorry to hear about the problems and turning blue, but at least things turned brighter at the end!

Here's to good weekend running to everyone! :thumbsup2: I'm a little nervous about trying to go long tomorrow, but we'll see how far I get... I've been playing a bit on MapMyrun.com here during lunch and nothing is fitting quite right because oif some _(*^*%^ construction going on in my neighborhood; we don't have sidewalks and the street is torn up over the entire surface where it crosses a creek; so since I'm not into trail runs splashing through mud like the rozzes, I'm kinda' SOL on that road and then when it's done I think the plan to move down the creek to mine and then probably the one after that, ALL of which my easy to follow routes zigzag through!

MatterhornMiss

08-14-2009, 02:20 PM

Good luck!

Rozzie

08-14-2009, 08:16 PM

DG I know you will do great!
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Rozzie

08-14-2009, 10:36 PM

My 6 miler became a 4 miler tonight. It might have to do something with me trying to run at 1630 in the afternoon. Temps still in mid 90s. No worries, just going to add the 2 miles to tomorrow's run. Gotta love flexibility, and I'll be starting at 0530 to beat the heat. :D

nono

08-15-2009, 05:57 AM

Rozzie,

I had a similar issue -- was supposed to do 4 x 1 mi intervals @10K pace + w/u and c/d. Warm up went fine -- so did the first 1 mi @ 10K pace. I did my 2 min recovery and my legs just couldn't get back up to speed to do anymore 10K paced miles. So, I had a lovely recovery paced run w/ 1 interval. I think in 2 weeks he no longer has us do the recoveries but just hold pace for 3 miles...maybe I'll start that next week. I didn't feel labored at all during the 10K pace, just couldn't get back to it. :rotfl2:

Today is a day at the beach and 20 min of slideboarding later in the afternoon. Ahhhh. Gotta rest up for tomorrow's long run.

DG,

:goodvibes:. It's always exciting to step into new territory! Hope you have fun!

Rozzie

08-15-2009, 09:51 AM

Nono, that sounds like how my T pace workout (6 mile) went on Thurs. Was supposed to hold 8:30 pace for 15 min. We decided to do it at the end and then do last mile a recovery pace. Well our recovery mile was like us huffing and puffing and barely a jog. Next week it's 2X 10 min threshold with 4 min recovery in between. Those 4 min's might be the slowest jog ever recorded! :grin: Just strange how I can usually hold a pace in a race, but in training I flounder all over the place. Mmmn.

DG, anxious to hear how it went? :listen:

Jen, how is the program going? :fingerscrossed:

12 Miler tomorrow for me. Weird how it feels almost like the day off LOL. Love those cutback weeks! Next week the dreaded 18....new territory for me for sure.

MatterhornMiss

08-15-2009, 10:21 AM

Ran my five miles this morning. I knew I would be a bit slower--I can generally tell if my body is protesting waking up. Still, my goal was an 11 min/mile pace. My first mile--11:45, not so good. My second mile--12:20, YIKES! I had reached the top of a pretty significant up grade by then, so I tried to push it a bit more. Third mile--12:00, getting a little better. By then, my body was awake and I was able to push myself into a faster groove. Fourth mile--10:20, wow! Last mile--9:55, woohoo! So, I ran the five miles in 55:40--averaging just 8 sec off my set pace.

Tomorrow I'm supposed to do an easy 2 miles.

DisneyGeek

08-15-2009, 12:40 PM

DG, anxious to hear how it went? :listen:

I surprised myself and am counting today as a success! :yahoo: Thanks to DW & everyone here for the encouragement to help me past my mental block. :rocker:

I planned out 5.53 miles on Map My Run with a goal of 11 min mile pace. Went out and ran- when I got back home Garmin showed 5.34 miles (Not sure where the other 0.19 from MMR went :scratchchin:, but I tend to believe my GPS...) and a total time of 58:24.23! :D That yielded an average pace of 10:56. I actually managed to run the first 4.70 miles straight through, no walking, with an AP of 10:44. Then I walked 0.25 at 15:53, ran 0.35 @ 10:32, and finished my final 217.79 feet at 6:09 pace. :goodvibes: Burned 913 kcal, average heart rate of 151 bpm... I'm thrilled with those stats :cloud9: ; I wasn't sure I had it in me. Previously my longest run/walk mix ever was 4.27 miles combined, and longest straight running stint was my 3.51 from 8/12. :)

So we'll see how I feel tomorrow and I'll decide swim or take a rest day instead based on that- right after my run and cool down walk I went upstrairs and I thought my knees were going to explode, but they are doing better now. :thumbsup2:

Rozzie

08-15-2009, 04:32 PM

DG, excellent!!!!!! I knew you would do well. :)

I know this has been discussed before, but GPS is usually not accurate. Even my Garmin came with a disclaimer that it was not 100% accurate. I would actually go by MapmyRun instead of your Garmin for accuracy. You see, it depends on the "line" in which you run. Did you switch sides of the road, run on the same side of road, swing wide into turns, swing narrow into turns? I know my RP and I have the same indentical Garmin model, press it at the same exact time, and we never have the same mileage. NEVER, not once! I have run certified courses (which by all legal standards are measured out to a tee) and never come up with the race distance on my Garmin. For instance, my Half registered 13.31. Last 10K I did was 6.05 according to the Garmin. I say all this to remind everyone not to get too focused on GPS accuracy, as it is usually close but maybe not always accurate. Great job again on the run!! :thumbsup2:

nono

08-15-2009, 05:38 PM

right after my run and cool down walk I went upstrairs and I thought my knees were going to explode, but they are doing better now. :thumbsup2:

Never, I repeat, NEVER go up the stairs within the first 10 minutes of getting through a run. I swear those stairs will kill ya! :)

Nice work! I knew you had it in you. :goodvibes: Now, you can enter 5K races and 5 milers at will. Powerful stuff!

DisneyGeek

08-15-2009, 08:36 PM

DG, excellent!!!!!! I knew you would do well. :)

I know this has been discussed before, but GPS is usually not accurate.

Thanks! And thinking about it that does make some sense; it's accuracy is only within 20-50 feet at any given time, so if it is misplacing you in different directs it's distance could get rather funky... Maybe I should go with the MapMyRun distance. :scratchchin:

Never, I repeat, NEVER go up the stairs within the first 10 minutes of getting through a run. I swear those stairs will kill ya! :)

Ohhhhh, NOW you tell me! ;)

Nice work! I knew you had it in you. :goodvibes: Now, you can enter 5K races and 5 milers at will. Powerful stuff!Thank you. As for 5 milers, hmmmm... I still like the "3rd times the charm" slogan and using that for my first Disney race (ToT) but after that I just might have to try another one at will. I'm actually feeling pretty good right now. :D

nono

08-16-2009, 06:38 AM

Rozzie's cut-back week long run = my longest run of Build 1. LOL!

12 miles in 2:00:50. First 3 mi. were lousy. Dead lead legs again. Then I dropped the dog off and continued on my way. Miles 5-7 felt good, as did 9-12. It is amazing to me how long it takes for my bod some days to get in the groove. :rolleyes:

Good running/walking/cross-training to all!

Rozzie

08-16-2009, 09:39 AM

12 miles in 2:00:50. !

Too funny, my 12 miler was 2:01:56. :grin: I haven't had a decent LR in over a month, and I needed some confidence for next weekend. Felt great and for the first time in a very very long time, no pain anywhere. No walk breaks, except to potty once and then to refill my bottle. My walk break friend was not there today and I cheated and paced off Scott. Last 4 miles were at Marathon pace, with I figured was about 9:15-930. Of course when I talked to coach afterward he said I should be going faster than that for my last few miles. Oh well. Next weekend the big 18. That's if I'm not camped out in a closet due to Ana. ;)

nono

08-16-2009, 09:45 AM

Too funny, my 12 miler was 2:01:56. :grin:

SEE!!!! Our 19 miler is gonna be fine in FL! :yahoo:

Well done, Rozzie!

Rozzie

08-16-2009, 01:50 PM

Hey a special shout out to Matt Fitzgerald. He is the guy Nono likes a lot. Well if Nono likes them I pay attention. I picked up his book Performance Nutrition for Runners at B&N this week and I really like it so far. I haven't gotten too much into it, but from what I've read I think I am going to gleam a lot from his advice. A lot of it is common sense stuff--Eat natural, minimal processed, Organic foods. I love his emphasis on how important organic is but also he dives into a lot of supplements (some of which I use, yahoo!), 3 different carb loading plans, recovery nutriton etc. Oh yeah using nutrition to prevent injury and enhance recovery. What foods will make you recover faster, etc. What foods/drinks will make you perform better. Very neat stuff. :)

Rozzie

08-16-2009, 02:05 PM

flash277

08-16-2009, 05:20 PM

Forgot to add...

Would anyone be interested in a laid back meet up for TOT? Of course if you got prior plans or rather do something else, not a problem. Just thought it might be nice for us to get together before the race and hang out for a hour or so. I was thinking either Friday afternoon or early Sat somewhere. Maybe not a park entry location as some of us may not have APs. Just something to chew on, any ideas? Maybe something budget friendly too. :)

Me!:wave:....I want to do some boozing with the Rozzies:biggulp:Friday sounds good, so we can sober up fro Saturday Night run:drunkard:

Ah, cruise was good, running not so.......I had my foot pain until about Wednesday, I got out Thursday morning and ran 2 miles around the outside track on the ship (4.5 laps = 1 mile), then I took off Friday when foot starting bothering me again. Well, now I'm home, my right foot is fine, but just last night, and all today, I've had a terrible pain behind my left knee, like I pulled something. It really hurts when I bend my leg. Pain is more on the left/back side of the knee, icing it up. I don't know what it is, any ideas?...I didn't really do anything strenuous on Saturday to injure it, it just sort of happened. Maybe running up and down all the stairs did it for me. I did have a good workout Friday though, Sean and I did a scavenger hunt on the ship, and we ran up and down about 30 flights of stairs total.....Oh, and I did alot of swimming at the beach on Tuesday (that made up for all the Blackbeard's beer I drank:biggulp: on that excursion ((It was free!!:rocker:) Anyway, that's it, I was a big time running slacker this cruise, and was looking forward to getting back to running, but now I gotta see how this pain in the knee goes.............:fingerscrossed:

Rozzie

08-16-2009, 06:28 PM

Welcome home Sgt Flash! Watch out on that knee. Mmmn, back of knee. Might be from the stairs too. I'd at least get out and walk and see how it goes. Sometimes it's a one day pain that goes away with lots of ice. Wishing you luck on it. :fingerscrossed:

Any ideas on Friday night? I would rather avoid DTD if at all possible on a weekend night--even though Raglan Road is always fun. Something laid back and chill outy woud be cool. Gail? Nono? DG? Scott? Any thoughts?

mickeyndvcfan

08-16-2009, 06:46 PM

Any ideas on Friday night? I would rather avoid DTD if at all possible on a weekend night--even though Raglan Road is always fun. Something laid back and chill outy woud be cool. Gail? Nono? DG? Scott? Any thoughts?

We could always walk over to the Suitcase and chill.

flash277

08-16-2009, 06:59 PM

We could always walk over to the Suitcase and chill.

that sounds good Gail.......cold beers with good friends is all Stimpy and I need..............:drunkard:

MatterhornMiss

08-16-2009, 07:46 PM

Way to go on your runs, Roz and nono!

I just got done with a 2 miler. It was supposed to be an easy run, but my legs just wanted to go. I averaged 10 min/mile. I love these short runs! ;)

Okay, now I am going to be a total peacock here, but only because I have worked so hard to lose weight. I went to Old Navy today to buy jeans (they are only $19 this week) and found a pair that fit well (maybe just a bit loose!) in a smaller size. The only downside is that I figure if I keep losing weight like I have been, they won't fit for very long. :cheerleader:

DisneyGeek

08-16-2009, 09:10 PM

Rozzie & nono - Nice on the 12 milers! Argh, breaking 5 was hard enough for me; 12? Yikes! :scared07: Well, maybe someday... :silly:

Any ideas on Friday night? I would rather avoid DTD if at all possible on a weekend night--even though Raglan Road is always fun. Something laid back and chill outy woud be cool. Gail? Nono? DG? Scott? Any thoughts?

DW & I are only getting a car for Saturday night and we are staying at VWL so we'll be limited by Disney transportation availability Friday night. But PLEASE don't try and plan something around us- I was originally thinking of some of our own stuff and just meeting everyone at the post-race Sat. However, I'll definately watch what shapes up here and see if I can work an earlier meet into our plans!

Okay, now I am going to be a total peacock here, but only because I have worked so hard to lose weight. I went to Old Navy today to buy jeans (they are only $19 this week) and found a pair that fit well (maybe just a bit loose!) in a smaller size. The only downside is that I figure if I keep losing weight like I have been, they won't fit for very long. :cheerleader:

WTG! :thumbsup2: Good luck on the ongoing shrinking and I'm sure there will be more sales later. ;)

Rozzie

08-17-2009, 04:30 AM

We could always walk over to the Suitcase and chill.

That sounds great!! You know we could even do another pool side cookout and just have our own beer at the pool. Saves $$ and was super fun. I'll bring the organic turkey burgers. :D

The only downside is that I figure if I keep losing weight like I have been, they won't fit for very long. :cheerleader:

Is it not the very best feeling in the world?!!! Congrats! :thumbsup2: Your hard work is paying off. Just be warned, one of the things that makes running expensive is having to buy new wardrobes. :idea: I threw all my fat clothes out and consigned the better stuff. I don't even want the option of fitting into them again.

Colorado Belle

08-17-2009, 09:18 AM

I'm not even gonna be there, but the pooIside barbie is what I was going to suggest!!!! And hope that (weather permitting) we can do something simiIar in January!

stimpy

08-17-2009, 11:57 AM

I think Mr Stimpy was a little guilted into doing his run on the ship since I did the TM the day before ;) It was just too hot to do it on the top of the ship on the track mid-day. I don't know how you Southerners do it every day outside!

OMG, is it possible to LOVE a TM??? :cloud9: The one on the ship was awesome, the view wasn't bad either (Looking right out into San Juan from the front of the ship.) They had tv's but I didn't use it. I went longer & faster on this TM than our home one. Plus I didn't get a single shin splint or have to kick off my shoes :thumbsup2: It tracked heart rate & it automatically raised or lowered the incline to keep the rate just right. Too bad it costs thousands of dollars, I'm sure :rolleyes:

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 01:03 PM

That sounds great!! You know we could even do another pool side cookout and just have our own beer at the pool. Saves $$ and was super fun. I'll bring the organic turkey burgers. :D

I was thinking about that too.
We could always do both. Suitcase on Friday night and the cookout :eating: for our Sat. chill before the race day. Didn't we figure on a lot of cooking at the pool for this trip anyway. We had a "Thriller" of a time last year on our last night there in March. :rotfl2:

nono

08-17-2009, 02:26 PM

We had a "Thriller" of a time last year on our last night there in March. :rotfl2:

Hey, now he just looks like he was on the leading edge of a trend. If I hear many more MJ songs, I'm gonna throw up! The music was dead before he was people...let it go.... :oweye:

withdisneyspirit

08-17-2009, 02:27 PM

Okay, now I am going to be a total peacock here, but only because I have worked so hard to lose weight. I went to Old Navy today to buy jeans (they are only $19 this week) and found a pair that fit well (maybe just a bit loose!) in a smaller size. The only downside is that I figure if I keep losing weight like I have been, they won't fit for very long. :cheerleader:

Congrats on the smaller size jeans, MM! that is great :yahoo:

Ah, cruise was good, running not so.......I had my foot pain until about Wednesday, I got out Thursday morning and ran 2 miles around the outside track on the ship (4.5 laps = 1 mile), then I took off Friday when foot starting bothering me again. Well, now I'm home, my right foot is fine, but just last night, and all today, I've had a terrible pain behind my left knee, like I pulled something. It really hurts when I bend my leg. Pain is more on the left/back side of the knee, icing it up. I don't know what it is, any ideas?...I didn't really do anything strenuous on Saturday to injure it, it just sort of happened. Maybe running up and down all the stairs did it for me. I did have a good workout Friday though, Sean and I did a scavenger hunt on the ship, and we ran up and down about 30 flights of stairs total.....Oh, and I did alot of swimming at the beach on Tuesday (that made up for all the Blackbeard's beer I drank:biggulp: on that excursion ((It was free!!:rocker:) Anyway, that's it, I was a big time running slacker this cruise, and was looking forward to getting back to running, but now I gotta see how this pain in the knee goes.............:fingerscrossed:

Flash, A lot of my current knee pain is in the back of my knee not that I have a clue why, lol! I do think in your case that the stairs contributed a lot, especially if it was substantially more stairs than you are used to doing and at a faster pace since you were competing. The biggest thing to realize about knee pain is that the best way to treat it is to strengthen all the muscles that hold the knee steady. Calves, hamstrings, quadriceps - all of it! Google knee rehab exercises and you will find them. My knee surgery therapist told me to get ankle weights to do them at home. I gave up running the first time in my early 30's because of this. I am sad to think of all the wasted years in between :(

withdisneyspirit

08-17-2009, 02:30 PM

And about me, I am mostly recovered from the flu - no more wheezing :yahoo:

I did a 5k this past Saturday morning. I am hoping now to launch myself into training pretty strongly now :fingerscrossed: No time like the present when I am goofy enough to attempt the Goofy race, lol! :scared07:

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 02:58 PM

Hey, now he just looks like he was on the leading edge of a trend. If I hear many more MJ songs, I'm gonna throw up! The music was dead before he was people...let it go.... :oweye:

OK OK.....calm down!! It was suppose to be funny HA HA...didn't mean to get you all upset. :hug1:

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 03:00 PM

Lisa....glad you are feeling better now.

Rozzie

08-17-2009, 03:07 PM

Glad you are feeling better Lisa! :)

My mom called and asked if I would put her and boyfriend up for a room on their 1 year anniversary next month. I got them a studio at SSR and a Wolfgang Puck dinner reservation. Had to borrow points, but it's a neccessity in my plan to marry her off. :fingerscrossed: Should I email them the link to the wedding chapel?? ;) I am tired of paying her taxes!!!!!!!!! :oweye:

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 03:19 PM

My mom called and asked if I would put her and boyfriend up for a room on their 1 year anniversary next month. I got them a studio at SSR and a Wolfgang Puck dinner reservation. Had to borrow points, but it's a neccessity in my plan to marry her off. :fingerscrossed: Should I email them the link to the wedding chapel?? ;) I am tired of paying her taxes!!!!!!!!! :oweye:

Oh..you are such a wonderful daughter.:hug1: Well, if you are paying her taxes then I don't think that a Disney wedding would be in the budget.

nono

08-17-2009, 03:20 PM

OK OK.....calm down!! It was suppose to be funny HA HA...didn't mean to get you all upset. :hug1:

Nooooo, not you! I mean all the people who keep calling radio stations and requesting MJ music.... :D

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 03:24 PM

Nooooo, not you! I mean all the people who keep calling radio stations and requesting MJ music.... :D

Soooooo, change the stations!!! :rotfl2:

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 03:29 PM

Hey Jen.....How is the training coming along?

athenna

08-17-2009, 04:04 PM

Hey Jen.....How is the training coming along?

Very good, thanks!:D
Since we are far from 14 weeks right now, I did week 1 and then I did week 1 over again last week...I was sick a couple of days last week, so I had no choice but to miss a couple of workouts....Today I started week 2.

Im disgusted w/myself in general....Normally, I dont have much of a problem watching what I eat, but the exercise I have a hard time with....I am not like that anymore, I LOVE to walk and to work out, but I have had a hard time with food lately:oweye: Im embarrassed to say, this is the heaviest I have been in years:boohoohoo: I seem to have no willpower all of a sudden.

MatterhornMiss

08-17-2009, 04:24 PM

I did a 5k this past Saturday morning. I am hoping now to launch myself into training pretty strongly now :fingerscrossed: No time like the present when I am goofy enough to attempt the Goofy race, lol! :scared07:

Great job!

MatterhornMiss

08-17-2009, 04:30 PM

Im disgusted w/myself in general....Normally, I dont have much of a problem watching what I eat, but the exercise I have a hard time with....I am not like that anymore, I LOVE to walk and to work out, but I have had a hard time with food lately:oweye: Im embarrassed to say, this is the heaviest I have been in years:boohoohoo: I seem to have no willpower all of a sudden.

:hug1: I definitely go through those times myself! It is hard to re-train your body, well, your mind, into realizing you don't need all that stuff to survive--especially when it tastes great! Set small goals, and celebrate (but not with food--that would just reinforce our belief that food is a reward) achieving them! Best of luck! And we're here to help you out in any way we can!

MatterhornMiss

08-17-2009, 04:32 PM

My mom called and asked if I would put her and boyfriend up for a room on their 1 year anniversary next month. I got them a studio at SSR and a Wolfgang Puck dinner reservation. Had to borrow points, but it's a neccessity in my plan to marry her off. :fingerscrossed: Should I email them the link to the wedding chapel?? ;) I am tired of paying her taxes!!!!!!!!! :oweye:

Haha--maybe you should tell them they have to foot the bill from now on unless they decide to finally take the plunge.

Rozzie

08-17-2009, 04:46 PM

MM, if I don't pay the taxes then she will move home. Then I will have to move away...
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MatterhornMiss

08-17-2009, 04:58 PM

MM, if I don't pay the taxes then she will move home. Then I will have to move away...
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Oooh--a horrible catch 22! :rotfl2:

nono

08-17-2009, 05:27 PM

Soooooo, change the stations!!! :rotfl2:

I can't. :headbrickwall: It's in other people's car driving by, in businesses on the Boardwalk...you get the idea. Don't worry, my car and my house are MJ-free zones.

mickeyndvcfan

08-17-2009, 05:42 PM

I can't. :headbrickwall: It's in other people's car driving by, in businesses on the Boardwalk...you get the idea. Don't worry, my car and my house are MJ-free zones.

Gotcha...

flash277

08-17-2009, 07:38 PM

Congrats on the smaller size jeans, MM! that is great :yahoo:

Flash, A lot of my current knee pain is in the back of my knee not that I have a clue why, lol! I do think in your case that the stairs contributed a lot, especially if it was substantially more stairs than you are used to doing and at a faster pace since you were competing. The biggest thing to realize about knee pain is that the best way to treat it is to strengthen all the muscles that hold the knee steady. Calves, hamstrings, quadriceps - all of it! Google knee rehab exercises and you will find them. My knee surgery therapist told me to get ankle weights to do them at home. I gave up running the first time in my early 30's because of this. I am sad to think of all the wasted years in between :(

Thanks for the tip.......Knee much better now, a bit sore still, but much better than yesterday..........

Rozzie

08-17-2009, 08:04 PM

Jen, you have lost the weight before. You can do it again. :) I know you can. Take it one hour at a time. We all have setbacks but you are so much ahead than a lot of people. You know what you need to do and how to do it. We are here for you all the way.

Well I had a horrible headache this afternoon after a shotty day at work. Really thought about bailing out on track. Layed in bed with cold cloth over my face in darkened room for a hour feeling sorry for myself. Then I had this realization--what if I have a migraine the day of the Marathon? Will I just lay in bed? Nope. So I went out there and did it. Had a great workout and did my fastest 200 of my life--at the end of the workout! Whooee. :D I did not eat a lot today, not a lot of snacking just my normal meals (lots of lean protein fruits veggies, hummus, whole grain bread) and I felt a lot lighter. Light bulb! :idea: If I don't stuff my face after work when I get home I run faster at night. Ding ding ding! It takes a long time for me to figure things out. :blush:

nono

08-18-2009, 04:44 AM

Reporting in, less than halfway through my 4.5 miler. :( First run of cutback week after a day off -- and as often happens -- it's not going well. Dog was annoying for the whole first 2 miler so I came in the house, and there's S with all the lights on crying up a storm. Got him calmed down, made coffee, had some toast and lobster spread, and will head to the beach for the remaining 2.5 miles barefoot in a few minutes.

Have a good day folks!!!! :wave:

patdaddy

08-18-2009, 05:15 AM

Let's see...got in some 2-milers this week; my "long" run yesterday was 4 miles. Again at midday, but with outer tropical storm bands moving through the area the direct sunlight was virtually nil, there was generally a decent breeze with an occasional sprinkle; humidity was the worst of the prevailing conditions. Ran in some friends' neighborhood out towards Chalkville---their street is part of a cute little figure eight that measures somewhere between 9/10 and a full mile; I did four circuits plus about another half to make sure I got 4 in, walked the rest and then went back and forth in the driveway a while to cool down. Pace wasn't great, about 11 min/mile, but I was more concerned with distance and my knee than time. It's the first time I've been out since I got hurt that I didn't feel the need to obsessively monitor my knee or the stride of my left leg; that was nice. Kinda wanted to push on to 5, but I'm still erring on the side of caution.

I don't keep very accurate record of my times, I confess. Partly I have this uncertainty principle thing in the back of my head about running---I've changed the outcome by measuring it! Partly it's due to the fact that my 2 most-oft employed routes are questionable in the exactitude of their distance. Mostly it's just that I'm not competing against anyone or anything but myself and the road---I really just want to finish without feeling like I'll fall over.

One obstacle repeatedly put a smile on my face: one-half the figure eight loops around a small lake that a flock of Canadian geese call home, and the neighborhood is lightly-trafficked enough that they're frequently out wandering down the middle of the street. The birds themselves don't present a problem, but what they leave behind certainly presents the truth of the hoary old chestnut ("slick as...").

Not much time left before Labor Day weekend.:eek:

nono

08-18-2009, 05:50 AM

Kinda wanted to push on to 5, but I'm still erring on the side of caution.

You are playing it smart, Patdaddy! And, nothing wrong with running by feel v. obsessing over pace. :thumbsup2:

PoohsPal

08-18-2009, 10:26 AM

hey all! So har dto keep up tehse days. HAd a good bike/run last night, except for falling on teh construction detour. We'll see tonight how the foot /ankle hold up I guess.

MatterhornMiss

08-18-2009, 03:57 PM

Today was another interval run for speed. I really pushed to run hard around 7mph (though its only for about a quarter of a mile ;)). Despite the fact my quads are telling me they did work hard, I somehow have it in my head if I don't go long distances (I'm talking over 5 miles), I'm not really running. I should just get over myself. :rolleyes:

Hope the rest of your run turned out okay, nono!

Best wishes on the ankle, Carrie! Congrats on the workout.

Good job, Patdaddy!

Rozzie

08-18-2009, 05:52 PM

Keep up the good work Patdaddy! Good luck with the knee. :)

Nono, here's hoping to a issue free part 2 of your run. :fingerscrossed:

Hey Peacocks, saw something very interesting in my Running Times I got in the mail today. There is a Half Marathon dowtown Orlando and surrounding lake first week of Dec. Sure not this year, but maybe next year 2010? The race fee is only $45!!!!!!! :eek: And it comes with a beer garden refreshment at the end!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek: Plus long sleeve tech shirt and medal. Disney has come real close to out pricing us for big races, but I can afford this. Plus we can stay the week at DVC. Sweeeet!!!! :D http://www.trackshack.com/events/individual/ouc/ouc.shtml?ATCLID=1326588&SPSID=60970&SPID=6639&DB_OEM_ID=11300

Mr. Roz

08-18-2009, 06:17 PM

And it comes with a beer garden refreshment at the end!!!!!!!! :eek: :eek:

A garden of refreshing beer...:biggulp:That just sounds too good to pass up. Count me in:)

nono

08-18-2009, 07:17 PM

A garden of refreshing beer...:biggulp:That just sounds too good to pass up. Count me in:)

I can probably swing that. Count me in! When do I have to make DVC ressies? (I need help these days!)

mickeyndvcfan

08-18-2009, 07:37 PM

I can probably swing that. Count me in! When do I have to make DVC ressies? (I need help these days!)

In Jan. at 11 months and May for 7 months.....Oh and count me in too!!!!

DisneyGeek

08-18-2009, 07:51 PM

Well I had a horrible headache this afternoon after a shotty day at work. Really thought about bailing out on track. ...

Thanks for posting that- I was feeling lousy this morning (head & stomach) and only ate half my breakfast and skipped lunch since I wasn't sure I could keep it down. BUT, after I read your post that I thought that you were right, so I made my mind up to exercise after I got home from work anyway - after all, Wed. is a scheduled rest day :). Got home, tossed in a Jeff Lange DVD about Disneyland ;), and did my mixed weights & elliptical workout as planned. :goodvibes: Mentally I'm feeling much better. Head & stomache still not perfect (but I ate dinner and it's staying down! :thumbsup2:) but I am really glad I did it. Thanks again for the inspiration your sharing gave me!

Rozzie

08-18-2009, 08:21 PM

nono

08-18-2009, 08:31 PM

Rozzie, that should work perfectly as I tune up for Boston 2011. :p :grin:

jiggerj

08-19-2009, 03:52 AM

Hey guys! Long time no see! :wave:

I cant even begin to try to catch up but am wishing all healthy training and races!

I have been doing ALOT of walking- Have tried taking Zorro with me a few times but he is miserable in the heat and humidity no matter what time of day I go. :(

Life has been busy- but the good kind of busy. :silly: :goodvibes:

Still counting on seeing ya'll in Jan! (hey I said ya'll I must be adapting to Southern life allready!)

Rozzie

08-19-2009, 04:49 AM

Rozzie, that should work perfectly as I tune up for Boston 2011. :p :grin:

LOL Nono, that was the same thought I had when I pondered our timelines..."that race should be great for Nono's Boston run." :thumbsup2:

Laura, welcome to the heat LOL! Don't be too hard on Z, my dogs last only a few minutes in the heat down here and they are locals. :rotfl2: Hey, maybe you can think about joining us for the Peacock Gathering for the HM in Dec 2010. I know you could be more than ready by then. :)

patdaddy

08-19-2009, 05:03 AM

So the great Peacock gathering of Dec 2010 is taking shape. :woohoodance: For those who have never been to WDW first week of Dec, it's a great week to go...I am hoping everyone can attend!! So Lisa, DG, PatDaddy, Jen, MM, Flash, Stimpy, CB, Carrie---whatcha think? :listen: :fingerscrossed:

Early December is a brilliant time to go, absolutely---WDW doesn't get much easier than then.

I'll pencil it in. December 2009 would actually be much easier for me to plan for. Even though I'm already considering the WDW marathon in January 2010 (depending on how goes the DL half), the Orlando half is a tempting proposition: cheap race fee, nice time to be in central FL, cheap point costs, and my mother's brother & his wife live in Maitland on the other side of Orlando...

athenna

08-19-2009, 07:21 AM

Roz, that half marathon in Dec 2010 sounds awesome!!! Put us (Mr A & myself) as tentatively coming.:)

shell045

08-19-2009, 07:48 AM

Hi all!

I've been very busy with the kids this Summer, so I haven't had much time to post.
I have been reading the thread when I have a chance.
We are in Disney now, with my 2 kids. My husband traveling in Europe.

I speed walked 7 miles yesterday..... getting ready for the Princess half.

Have a great day all.

patdaddy

08-19-2009, 08:07 AM

Okay, silly query, but the search didn't help much and there are almost 400 pages in this thread---

Would someone be kind enough to explain to me the origin and/or usage of "Peacocks?" If I qualify, I'd like to know what it's all about. :)

DisneyGeek

08-19-2009, 11:28 AM

DG, hope you get to feeling better!

...

I am hoping everyone can attend!! So Lisa, DG, PatDaddy, Jen, MM, Flash, Stimpy, CB, Carrie---whatcha think? :listen: :fingerscrossed:

I am feeling better today, thanks! :goodvibes:

As for Dec. 2010, I'm afraid we'll probably be a NO unfortunately. We already have a Jan/Feb 2010 trip booked and airfare paid, + I am HOPING to go to DL in Oct. 2010 for my BD and to try out our VGC points @ 'home'. Not enough vacation time (we usually visit E's family in IL every year around Christmas + two Disney trips each in both '09 and '10 taps us out pretty well), money (for airfare, food, dog boarding, & all the other incidentals), or points to add a third Disney trip!

This is especially true since DW is probably going to take a 40% :scared07: pay cut (still no hard numbers yet but she told in that ballpark yesterday) after her current project ends (so ~Sept. 1st) because of contract losses going on at the (small) company she works for. Probably better than losing her job altogether in this economy, but still enough for us to REALLY feel it!!! May very well end up pushing her into getting a new job somewhere else, and if that happens I doubt she'd have enough vacation time to go on what we've already planned out during her first year...

withdisneyspirit

08-19-2009, 12:07 PM

DG, hope you get to feeling better!

Carrie, forgot to wish you good luck with your ankle. :blush:

So the great Peacock gathering of Dec 2010 is taking shape. :woohoodance: For those who have never been to WDW first week of Dec, it's a great week to go. Low crowds, Christmas decorations, oh but do make ressie's on the first day of your 11 month window. It gets downright scary fighting for ressie's in early Dec. (Gail Nono and I can all testify to that! :D)

I am hoping everyone can attend!! So Lisa, DG, PatDaddy, Jen, MM, Flash, Stimpy, CB, Carrie---whatcha think? :listen: :fingerscrossed:

I love the idea but it all depends...we have a family trip already scheduled for May 2010 and I was sorta hoping to go to DL for the Half next year. If we don't do that, then maybe December could be a good possibility :confused24:

Hi all!

I've been very busy with the kids this Summer, so I haven't had much time to post.
I have been reading the thread when I have a chance.
We are in Disney now, with my 2 kids. My husband traveling in Europe.

I speed walked 7 miles yesterday..... getting ready for the Princess half.

Have a great day all.

That is a great workout, espcially doing it at Disney!! I hope your trip is wonderful (sans hubby)!

withdisneyspirit

08-19-2009, 12:27 PM

Great job!

Thanks, MM, I did intervals today myself :D I'll bet you had a longer workout than I did though :rolleyes: mine was only 1.85 miles!!

Patdaddy...Re: the Peacock team origin...nono named us the Peacocks and I bet she can tell the story better than I can :grin: Suffice to say though, you qualify because you are a Disney fan and you are doing some version of physical activity!

PoohsPal

08-19-2009, 12:29 PM

Rozzie - Love teh idea, but December is He$$ for me. COmbine that with our annual marathon tirp adn it just won't work. :(

Going back to find the peaock link. WHy did I not bookmark it???

PoohsPal

08-19-2009, 12:34 PM

Start with Post 589 here (http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&highlight=peacock#post18606).

DisneyGeek

08-19-2009, 12:39 PM

Start with Post 589 here (http://http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&highlight=peacock#post18606).

That link with the highlight wasn't working for me in Firefox; might want to try this one if anyone else has problems: Here (http://www.dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&post18606)

PoohsPal

08-19-2009, 12:45 PM

That link with the highlight wasn't working for me in Firefox; might want to try this one if anyone else has problems: Here (http://www.dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&post18606)
Thanks Craig! Pasting error. :blush: It should work now.

MatterhornMiss

08-19-2009, 01:01 PM

I am hoping everyone can attend!! So Lisa, DG, PatDaddy, Jen, MM, Flash, Stimpy, CB, Carrie---whatcha think? :listen: :fingerscrossed:

I'd love to go to WDW during Christmas time--I've only ever been to DLR--but I'll be starting a new job in July/Aug and have no idea if I'll be allowed vacation and all that (and I was sort of planning, if possible, to do the DLR 1/2 marathon next fall). I would love to join in if I can!

MatterhornMiss

08-19-2009, 01:04 PM

Thanks, MM, I did intervals today myself :D I'll bet you had a longer workout than I did though :rolleyes: mine was only 1.85 miles!!

Mine wasn't much farther--total, it was about 2.5 (with warm up and cool down). I did 4 (1/4) mile runs at around 7mph, with slower runs (less than 6mph) in between.

PoohsPal

08-19-2009, 04:30 PM

Just got my Wii FIt yoga in. Only 23 min becaues dh came home early. Still, my foot adn ankle fetl fine, so that was good!

patdaddy

08-19-2009, 05:47 PM

Thanks for further defining peacockery!

Wish I felt more like strutting. Felt like I should have pushed past 4 miles today with only two weekends remaining till Anaheim but I remain fearful of doing myself in before I get there. Hope to get in long runs of 7 and 9 over the next two weekends...4 miles went slowly today but I started out mid-morning and the cloud cover thinned out quickly; probably need to put sunscreen in my kit. I got hot but didn't feel beat up at the end. Made a conscious effort at times to work on deep breathing, making as many as 7 strides per each inhale & exhale (I've done some stage acting; I know where that diaphragm is and how it's supposed to fill). Still kinda weirded out how close the event is now. Really wish I hadn't had to lay out a month. But it'll all work out, I tell myself...

withdisneyspirit

08-19-2009, 06:34 PM

Actually, it was nono, Carrie, and she did it in post #309 (the search had to be for the word peacocking around, LOL!!!!!!!!) It comes up in about 5 different posts on a couple of pages after that...

Look here:

http://www.dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?t=589&highlight=peacocking&page=31

Rozzie

08-19-2009, 08:24 PM

I think we have a great group lined up for Dec 2010. :) It will be a blast.

Checking in with 8 miles tonight. My piraformis started giving me trouble and I had to stop and stretch it out. Back to the foam roller for me tonight. :blech: Other than that, great run.

Glad the ankle did okay Carrie. :thumbsup2:

Patdaddy, like I said before, I think you are going to really surprise yourself at the race. Just remember to take it easy and there are plenty of races left to run. Sending my speediest recovery thoughts for you! :fingerscrossed:

Mr. Roz

08-19-2009, 09:20 PM

When one knows that he is going on a 8 mile run in 90 degree heat, one must drink enough water throughout the day before he runs. One must also take along enough water with him.
Stupid me, in too much of a rush today, didn't plan for the day and about had a heat stroke. :scared07: Set out on my run this evening , light rain made it a steam bath,didn't hydrate enough and paid for it. I started going south at mile 2 and had to back off and rotate run /walk just to finish. I didn't recover until mile 7. :blech:
So let my stupidity be a lesson, never take it for granted do the things that you are supposed to do every time. Running out your front door and putting one foot in front of the other can be more complicated than it seems.

Rozzie

08-20-2009, 04:37 AM

Running out your front door and putting one foot in front of the other can be more complicated than it seems.

Ain't that the truth! The important thing is your finished the distance and you are not dead. I am not quite ready to cash in the insurance policies yet. ;)

nono

08-20-2009, 05:39 AM

Nothing would make me happier than to have a sub 3 hour for the Princess. I know though that is highly unlikely, I'll be lucky not to get swept.

Oh it is so fun to go back in the WAYBACK machine! :silly: So to all you new Peacocks here, don't let Rozzie lure you into a wager of taking her prediction of 4:30:00 or over for the Rehoboth Marathon. ;)

Rozzie, what was your time again for the Princess Half? :scratchchin:

Rozzie

08-20-2009, 11:25 AM

2:07 and some change. The way back machine is fun!!!
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withdisneyspirit

08-20-2009, 12:37 PM

I like the wayback machine too! Funny thing is, I really must be getting old because it feels like we wrote that stuff just yesterday :eek: :rolleyes: :grin:

Rozzie

08-20-2009, 01:29 PM

Too funny Lisa!! :D Hey I have been meaning to ask you, are you doing any special program for Goofy? If you have told me before please forgive my infarcted mind. You are a very courageous soul indeed, we will call you the Bravest Peacock of them all!! :thumbsup2:

Nono, check out the bottom ticker. 3 months. :silly:

MatterhornMiss

08-20-2009, 03:44 PM

Did my 2 mile tempo run. I think I averaged around 9:40 or 9:45 a mile. Saturday is a five miler. Then, I can't decide to go to the state fair after that or on Sunday to eat fried foods to my heart's content. :cloud9:

Rozzie

08-20-2009, 04:48 PM

State fair in August? I guess there is a reason we have ours in late Oct...it's too hot for fried elephant ears LOL. Besides it's a state law you are not allowed to leave air conditioned rooms until late Sept--it explains why we hold the title to most obese people per square mile.
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nono

08-20-2009, 05:58 PM

Nono, check out the bottom ticker. 3 months. :silly:

Oh thank G*D! I watched Spirit of the Marathon again today. I have to stop watching it 2 weeks before go day...or else I'll be dehydrated. :boohoohoo:

Rozzie

08-20-2009, 07:35 PM

Oh thank G*D! I watched Spirit of the Marathon again today. I have to stop watching it 2 weeks before go day...or else I'll be dehydrated. :boohoohoo:

That is a AWESOME documentary. :thumbsup2: I might Netflix that again for some inspiration. Also Running on the Sun was great, it's about Badwater. Those people are nuts! :grin:

Rozzie

08-21-2009, 04:43 AM

flash277

08-21-2009, 12:18 PM

Oh thank G*D! I watched Spirit of the Marathon again today. I have to stop watching it 2 weeks before go day...or else I'll be dehydrated. :boohoohoo:

I watch this on netflix's instant watch....a good documentary

flash277

08-21-2009, 12:20 PM

Running out your front door and putting one foot in front of the other can be more complicated than it seems.

I thought running was pretty simple till I starting reading Rozzie's posts:confused24:

MatterhornMiss

08-21-2009, 01:50 PM

Just got the "official" email from Disney endurance that neither the Race for the Taste nor the Tower of Terror 13K will be returning next year :mad:. I am very disappointed--espcially (not that I have run this race) since the 13K race is so unique. Is the Everest Challenge really that popular that it would be the one Disney decides to continue? :confused24:

Rozzie

08-21-2009, 02:30 PM

MM, the rumor is they are going to add a bigger fall endurance race--like another Half or something.
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DisneyGeek

08-21-2009, 02:31 PM

Just got the "official" email from Disney endurance that neither the Race for the Taste nor the Tower of Terror 13K will be returning next year :mad:.

Wow, that is surprising! I wonder if I'll have a copy waiting when I get home; be interesting to find out more details if/when they come out... Glad I signed up for the ToT 5k this year!

nono

08-21-2009, 02:57 PM

MM, the rumor is they are going to add a bigger fall endurance race--like another Half or something.
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Yes, why have any variety at all? :(

MatterhornMiss

08-21-2009, 03:01 PM

Yes, why have any variety at all? :(

Exactly. At least the 13K TOT is original for Halloween.

I guess it's all about the Benjamins.

nono

08-21-2009, 03:02 PM

My threshold pace 7 miler run went better than last week. Had 2 X 10 minutes at 8:30 pace. 4 min recovery in between. I did walk 2 of those minutes though. :grin: It was humid as heck, just got done raining and the streets were steaming. Piriformis did talk quite a bit. Is it fall yet????? :fingerscrossed:

Dudette, I always walk the first minute of recovery. Notice -- does Coach say "recovery" or "recovery pace"? If he says recovery, you can recover any which way you please and be on-plan. :D

I pulled my general 3 miler to this morning and ended up fartleking my buns off in mi 2 & 3 for a speedy little negative split run:

Mi 1: 10:29 pace
Mi 2: 8:52 pace
Mi 3: 8:15 pace

In the water at high tide barefoot. I tell you this because tomorrow, I have 3 x 1 mi 10 K intervals embedded in a 5+ mile workout. (which was really today's workout, but didn't want to leave my girlfriend having to babysit with the kids for long...) When I complain tomorrow, someone reach out cyberly and choke me, OK? :oweye:

Rozzie

08-21-2009, 04:33 PM

Yes, why have any variety at all? :(

Exactly. At least the 13K TOT is original for Halloween.

I guess it's all about the Benjamins.

My thoughts exactly. Oh well, Jan will be my last Disney race and then I can end my relationship with a BANG!! ;)

withdisneyspirit

08-21-2009, 04:48 PM

That is sad, Rozzie! You don't have a Donald, do you?

I am super bummed about TOT - I am now officially whining to Rick big time about wanting to go!! :(

MatterhornMiss

08-21-2009, 07:03 PM

Roz, you're not running the Princess Half Marathon? :boohoohoo:

Rozzie

08-22-2009, 04:36 AM

That is sad, Rozzie! You don't have a Donald, do you?

I am super bummed about TOT - I am now officially whining to Rick big time about wanting to go!! :(

You have to go now!!! Come join the fun. Negative on the Donald medal. But I have a Princess medal, and it's the same course. ;) I think I still have a sour taste in my mouth from the Princess course change from AK last year. I do hope you can come down and bring Rick. :fingerscrossed:

Roz, you're not running the Princess Half Marathon? :boohoohoo:

Sorry MM but won't be coming down for that. It's just that there are so many races out there. I get so little vacation time, and my training cycle only lasts a little while. I just don't see the appeal in doing the same race, same course over and over when there are so many races I do want to do. (Chicago, Lake Tahoe, St. George, etc etc) I'll still be doing Orlando area races and coming down to WDW though. There are some pretty neat races in that area, Space Coast, Clermont Marathon (hilly! Good Boston primer) and Ocala Marathon just to name a few.

I'll try to explain my feelings a little more in detail---Remember how we used to love the different stores at WDW? Really cool individualized merchandise? But now, you walk into every store and it's the same coffee mug, same shirt, etc. Well that is where Disney is headed with their races. Same blah course, only a different name. The TOT race is truly a unique race, with a completly different feel from anything they have ever done. But as you said, it's all about the Benjamins. :mad:

nono

08-22-2009, 04:45 AM

I hate IN-accu-weather. Supposedly continuous thunderstorms from 4 a.m. on....well I'm up and it is NOT raining. Not threatening and I'm getting ready to do something other than run because it was DEFINITELY going to be storming now. :oweye:

Tonight, when I get struck by lightning while out running my intervals, someone contact my lawyer. :p

Rozzie

08-22-2009, 09:31 AM

I dodged lightning last night. The rain felt good though but I freak out when it starts striking all around me...be safe nono!
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Mr. Roz

08-22-2009, 02:00 PM

Tonight, when I get struck by lightning while out running my intervals, someone contact my lawyer. :p

Sounds like a great day for a tempo run!
We got caught in a killer lightning storm the day after our 5k. I ran 3 miles back to the car at a 8:00 plus pace. (Most of it up hill! Not a smart thing to do a day after a race:oweye:)
Lightning crashing all around you is quite motivating. Needless to say once I got to the car, it quit.

MatterhornMiss

08-22-2009, 04:23 PM

Well, I put off running for a while today--though I don't think the temp ever got above 70 degrees and it looked like rain the whole time (before I ran). I was supposed to run 5 miles, but I've felt yucky and lazy and grumpy on my speed schedule, so I decided to do 6 miles (though, to be fair, it's probably only the joy of fluctuating hormones). I ran the 6 miles in 60:53. I guess the speed training is starting to pay off. Halfway through my run (after I finally finished climbing the major hills), it started to rain. At first it was just a mist--very nice. But then it really started coming down. I was having a hard time seeing with rain beating into my eyeballs (I forgot to mention it was pretty gusty, too). But at least the rain seemed to wash some of my bad attitude away.

Now tomorrow will be a 3 mile run before hitting the state fair. I already have a list of foods to eat--though, I probably won't be able to make it even half way through. My two biggies are roasted corn in the husk and a fried twinkie (on a stick, of course).

Roz, sorry about the feelings of Disney races. Maybe you'll make a trip sometime to cheer on the rest of the peacock team ??? :fingerscrossed: