Running Disney

[Rozzie]

I was so busy lecturing Jen (:blush: Sorry Jen) that I forgot to add something. Does anyone else notice how much better you are able to deal with anger when you can get outdoors and work it out? Well today is my only off day, and I am pacing the floor needing to vent out some crap. Family related of course, but this time it's not even my mother! If the anger is still here tomorrow, it will get workout out at trails. As they say, running is cheaper than therapy! Another added benefit to the long list. :)

[nono]

I would have replied to Athenna's post earlier, but I'm still trying to piece my head back together after it exploded. :eek:

[athenna]

Uh oh, I made nono's head explode:eek: I'm sorry!


I know you ladies are right, I need time....But what happens is, my knee feels good, so I go walk...I wasnt concerned about how long I was walking until I felt pain:headbrickwall: I am calling the doc back in the morning:( I guess I'll have to get an MRI to see whats going on in there....Depending on what they do or do not find, which do I need an Ortho doc or PT? Which would I want?:confused:

[nono]

OK, here's the thing. Not everything is an injury right away (some are many are not). That's why my head exploded. Once you felt the spasm, that's IT! STOP. The idea is to stay on this side of injury. The side where they can say "Oh, get PT." Or "Run/walk until you feel a twinge, then stop." (Didn't you see me wearing my fake doctor's coat when I wrote that last time?? :p )

But if you keep pushing past irritation to injury, you're time on the bench will be much longer. That's why Rozzie's lecturing, and I'm still piecing my head back together with some super glue.

When I had my IT band injury, I had to start by running 1/10 of a mile. 1/10! It took a month to get to 1 mile. I was on the treadmill at the gym at OKW when I could hit that without a twinge. I burst into tears and scared the other folks in the gym. I don't want you to know that kind of mental anguish. :fingerscrossed:

[athenna]

Hope your head is glued back together now:hug1: Sorry if I made you nuts, nono:silly:

I totally see what you are saying....I know I shoudlve stopped at the first twinge yesterday, but then it felt fine so I kept going:headbrickwall:
I am calling the Dr office as soon as they open this morning..I'll have to get an MRI, I know.
But I am still confused on the difference between Ortho Dr and PT...Obviously, I have to see what my new insurance covers, that would be the deciding factor...Of course I would love PT that specializes in sports/running injury that understands my issue and keeps me on track with my goals...But I guess I cant be picky, I dont think I'll have a choice:confused: Now, I am making my own head explode:headbrickwall:
Thanks in advance! Sorry in advance, too:grin:

[nono]

But I am still confused on the difference between Ortho Dr and PT...Obviously, I have to see what my new insurance covers, that would be the deciding factor...Of course I would love PT that specializes in sports/running injury that understands my issue and keeps me on track with my goals...But I guess I cant be picky, I dont think I'll have a choice


My first comment is political: Welcome to American healthcare. And people think it'll get better if we have universal coverage? HA! Free country, dictated health care. Bull-hockey in my opinion.

Anyway, the ortho doc would generally be for injuries, and would likely conclude treatment with PT. The PT would be if primary doc doesn't think it's serious (just irritation). That's my way of looking at it. Perhaps others would have a more informed view on this!

[athenna]

Ahh, well, I like and appreciate your simple and easy answer:) Then PT it is! Unless of course something shows up on the MRI:silly:

I have an appointment w/Primary Doc tomorrow at 8:30am

[Rozzie]

Anyway, the ortho doc would generally be for injuries, and would likely conclude treatment with PT. The PT would be if primary doc doesn't think it's serious (just irritation). That's my way of looking at it. Perhaps others would have a more informed view on this!

I would also agree with this. I think you (and every single one of us for that matter) would benefit from physical therapy. Sounds like it might just be overuse of something that needs to be strengthened. But if you continue to have pain that is not getting better, you might need a MRI just to see what you are dealing with. :fingerscrossed: Hope things work out for you tomorrow.

[shell045]

I have some experience with injury from running.

Though I must say that the first 25 (yes, TWENTY FIVE!) years of running were pain free and injury free. I believe, Jen, you may be overdoing it and worsening your injury.

A physical therapist does not diagnose injury, they provide treatment for the injury which has been diagnosed by your doctor.... in this case the orthopedic doctor.

I suffered from a displaced (dislocated) patella (kneecap), from running. I went to the orthopedic doctor who diagnosed me, gave me a prescription for physical therapy. THEN I went for 2 months of physical therapy to strengthen muscles to keep patella tracking properly.

At least that's how it worked for me. You can't get physical therapy until you know what the injury is!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Thanks everyone for your prayers and good thoughts. My mom's surgery went well. It was a long day....4:00 am. at the hospital and was suppose to have surgery at 7:15am. but my mother took one of her diabetes pills at 2:00 yesterday so they couldn't do it until after 2:00 pm. Finally got into her room at 6:00. First thing she wanted to know was if they were going to give her some dinner. :eating:


The weather has been very warm here in Fla. so I've been enjoying the pool (except for today). Doing a lot of walking with my sister in the pool and a bit at night in the neighborhood. She still has to take her time walking but she is coming along nicely.

[athenna]

Gail, so glad your mom's surgery went well:hug1:




Just got back from doc, their Ortho happens to be in the same office on Wednesdays, so he was able to see me right away....Said MRI not necessary, he said I have a small bit of arthritis...He gave me the quad exercises to strengthen the knee...He said no running at all until I loose 25 pounds:boohoohoo: I am not surprised by that at all, just bummed about it:mad: He said I can go back to walking, but decrease it by 50% and increase it over time as long as I am pain free.

[PoohsPal]

Hi! Issed you all! My world has bee ncrazy. Of course, now tha ti have itme to catch up a bit, I have a spraine dwrist adn typin gis a huge chore. :oweye:

:tinker: to Jen and to Gail's mom!

[nono]

Just got back from doc, their Ortho happens to be in the same office on Wednesdays, so he was able to see me right away....Said MRI not necessary, he said I have a small bit of arthritis...He gave me the quad exercises to strengthen the knee...He said no running at all until I loose 25 pounds:boohoohoo: I am not surprised by that at all, just bummed about it:mad: He said I can go back to walking, but decrease it by 50% and increase it over time as long as I am pain free.

Overall, I would say this is GOOD NEWS! Be religious about the exercises!

[Rozzie]

Yes, good news indeed Jen. I also have to do quad exercises for my knee issues. So you will have lots of company. :)

Gail, so happy to hear the surgery went well. Yep it's hot as hades down here. I know today our real temp was 97 with a heat index of 105. I did my 6 miles this morning at 0400---there is just no other way to get it done without dying. :blech:

[nono]

Hi! Issed you all! My world has bee ncrazy. Of course, now tha ti have itme to catch up a bit, I have a spraine dwrist adn typin gis a huge chore. :oweye:

:tinker: to Jen and to Gail's mom!

I'd like to extend a warm welcome to our newest member, PoohsPal. :D


Hey, you drop off too long, and we get to give you a big :welcome::party1:!!

[nono]

Oh, Nurse Rozzie -- I am promoting you to Head Healthcare Guru here on the thread. I think you may have figured out my combo problem.

Achilles didn't hurt after I did (moderate) hill drills on the TM. I dialed back what was called for, as crap, Rehoboth isn't really hilly! Why risk injury when I don't need this training?

Anyway, everything was cool afterwards. I ate, was well-hydrated. Then a couple hours later I threw on my $3 flip flops and went food shopping. Now, I'm home and I'm feeling a little irritation. A ha! I believe it may be the combo of hill work day with flip flops that needs to stop. So, next week, on hill day, I'll be sure to wear shoes that have an enclosed heel so I can wear my lift for the rest of the day.

Thanks Rozzie for putting all the achilles info out there so I could be aware and connec the dots! :yahoo:

[Rozzie]

Glad I can help Nono. I am just happy to hear that it looks like a problem that can easily be fixed. :) Now I will go over to the political debate thread with my new healthcare title and really bust some chops. :grin:

Speaking of Rehoboth course, is the course going to be marked well? Getting lost in my hometown this past weekend did not do a lot for my confidence. Think I will spend this summer memorizing the course. I project I will probably run 90% of the course alone, and I ain't got the best sense of direction as we all know. :blush:

[nono]

Speaking of Rehoboth course, is the course going to be marked well? Getting lost in my hometown this past weekend did not do a lot for my confidence. Think I will spend this summer memorizing the course. I project I will probably run 90% of the course alone, and I ain't got the best sense of direction as we all know. :blush:

I imagine the course will be well-marked. You also have 2 things in your favor:

1. There's not a lot of roads there period, so not too many places to go wrong. :D It seems to me I remember seeing orange caution cones marking a lot of the course when I reviewed last year's pictures.

2. At your pace, there should be plenty of folks within sight to keep you on the right path. :woohoodance:

[athenna]

I guess it's good news, but why do I feel so sad about it then? LOL.
Oh, I will be religious about the exercises....He said tighten the quads for 500 seconds a day....So I am doing 50 at a time, for 10 times.

Headed out for my 45 min walk now.:fingerscrossed: for me

[nono]

I guess it's good news, but why do I feel so sad about it then? LOL.
Oh, I will be religious about the exercises....He said tighten the quads for 500 seconds a day....So I am doing 50 at a time, for 10 times.


Make sure your knee caps are drawing up as you do that. I tend to stand with my legs slightly flexed, and when I start from that position, my caps go nowhere. So, I have to make sure I'm standing with my kness almost locked to start. When you see your knee caps move up, that's your "tell" that you're getting the workout your doc wants. :)

[MatterhornMiss]

Just got back from doc, their Ortho happens to be in the same office on Wednesdays, so he was able to see me right away....Said MRI not necessary, he said I have a small bit of arthritis...He gave me the quad exercises to strengthen the knee...He said no running at all until I loose 25 pounds:boohoohoo: I am not surprised by that at all, just bummed about it:mad: He said I can go back to walking, but decrease it by 50% and increase it over time as long as I am pain free.

Glad for the good news!

[MatterhornMiss]

Ugh, I get such terrible heartburn when I run. I'm trying to eat a couple of Tums a little before starting, but it doesn't help much.

Still sticking with it. It's less loathsome without a watch, though I'm not sure of my pace. When I do wear a watch I try and run faster, 'cause I know then my run will be done sooner ;) . Last I did wear a watch I had shaved over half a minute off my pace. I want to be able to run the 10K in an hour or less.

[PoohsPal]

MM - I find Rolads works better than Tums. It's best when heartburn is bad if I avoid coffee adn tea during the day. It erally does suck wile runing. :(

[athenna]

Make sure your knee caps are drawing up as you do that. I tend to stand with my legs slightly flexed, and when I start from that position, my caps go nowhere. So, I have to make sure I'm standing with my kness almost locked to start. When you see your knee caps move up, that's your "tell" that you're getting the workout your doc wants. :)


Thank you so much, nono! This was something I had been wondering actually!:hug1: And do you do them a lot sitting down? I figure I can do them at work throughout the course of the day.

[Rozzie]

Jen, are you still thinking of getting a second opinion? You know if it were me, and someone told me that I could not run--I would want to find someone else that told me the same thing. The brutal cold hard truth is that there are some Dr's out there who are anti-running. I used to work with a whole group of Orthopod's that were very anti-running. If I were you, I would call the local running store and get the name of a Doc that is prorunning to take a look too. I know we have one in town that also does tri's that all the runners go too. I am not saying your original guy is a quack, and I do greatly believe in quad strengthening for knee's--but to say you can't run just because of arthritis as me thinkin'. Not even a walk 10 min, run 1 min? I can see ITB, tears, stress fx's for getting benched, etc but just from some arthritis. MMMn. I ain't no Doc though, did not even stay in a holiday inn last night. Have you been taking some Glucosomaine and Chrondritin? That does wonders for some people as a arthritic treatment. I take 2 a day myself. :)

I got a 8 miler tonight, and the real temp is still 99 degrees. Heat Index near 105. Someone remind me why I live in Alabama? :silly:

[nono]

Thank you so much, nono! This was something I had been wondering actually!:hug1: And do you do them a lot sitting down? I figure I can do them at work throughout the course of the day.

The info I have is for them to be done standing.

Uh, ok I'll admit this. The thing I do while sitting to strengthen my vastus lateralus and vastus medialis (interior and exterior quad muscles) is the Suzanne Somers Thighmasters (there's 2). I really am glad I got them, and believe they've helped my Runner's Knee symptoms lessen.

[Colorado Belle]

Dare I mention the ortho doc I went to for a foot neuroma. He took X rays then said 'well you don't have arthritis' Of course not you boob, I have a neuroma!!!!! I had to go back to the same guy again over a year later with another neuroma flareup. (no, not cuz of insurance, cuz it was a friend of Doctor Husband) Again, he tries to tell me it is not a neuroma. This time I'm not in the mood...I just say LOOK GIVE ME A SHOT OF CORTISONE PERIOD. Lucky me, the cortisone solved the problem and I've been neuroma free ever since (knock on wood)
MORAL: you can go round to bunches of docs and finally find one that tells you what you think the problem really is. Or you can skip the doc altogether (which is what I normally do) and try listening to your body more and then, if necessary, do the doctor thing.

Not meant to be a lecture Jen:hug1:....but here's a thought. You've never experienced pain before 45 minutes into your walk. So why not do 2 30 minute walks a day if you feel you need an hour long walk to get it done?
good lord...if your doc knew that fluffy ME was running (albeit only in .25mile stretches) he'd DIE, wouldn't he?

[athenna]

Roz, yes, I am most likely going to seek a 2nd opinion if the knee doesnt get better.....No, he didnt say i couldnt run because of the arthritis, he said I couldnt run because I need to lose 25 pounds:oweye:
Yes, I do take Glucosomaine and Chrondritin, I started on them 2 weeks ago.

nono, I'll have to try them standing, I have been doing them sitting while at my desk at work:confused:

CB, I know you arent a fan of docs, so I know you'd want to kill my Ortho:rotfl2:

Well, the good news is, I walked for 45 min this morning and felt FANTASTIC, not a bit of pain:thumbsup2:

Will skip tomorrow, as I dont want to re-injure the knee, and I have to take dad to doc appointment....Will walk again Sat & see how it does

Thanks for all the advice, ladies!:hug1:

[shell045]

Jen - Does the glucosamine help with the pain at all?

[Rozzie]

Greetings from blister hell. Nono and Gail, is this the sock ya'll use?

http://www.runningwarehouse.com/descpage-WDLCSL.html

Forgot to add. Okay Team Peacock, it's time to be penciling in 2010. I'll go first with suggestions. End of Nov timeframe, we could use Vero as a home base. Totally chill out. Thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome. :listen:

http://www.spacecoastmarathon.com/

[athenna]

Jen - Does the glucosamine help with the pain at all?


Yup, it is!:thumbsup2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Greetings from blister hell. Nono and Gail, is this the sock ya'll use?

http://www.runningwarehouse.com/descpage-WDLCSL.html

Forgot to add. Okay Team Peacock, it's time to be penciling in 2010. I'll go first with suggestions. End of Nov timeframe, we could use Vero as a home base. Totally chill out. Thoughts, comments and suggestions welcome. :listen:

http://www.spacecoastmarathon.com/

Yes, I use the cool mesh just a different style.


That looks like an awesome race Roz.....I'm in but probably just for the half.

[nono]

Well, I did my 2 mi race this morning. Went well. The course is a bit over 2 mi, but my pace was 7:37/mi. What I needed for the time trial to be sure I was on track with marathon training was a 7:41, so :thumbsup2: yep, I'm right on pace.

Gail, you back home yet?

[Rozzie]

Well, I did my 2 mi race this morning. Went well. The course is a bit over 2 mi, but my pace was 7:37/mi. What I needed for the time trial to be sure I was on track with marathon training was a 7:41, so :thumbsup2: yep, I'm right on pace.

Gail, you back home yet?

That is a amazing pace! Wow! :thumbsup2: You might has well make your hotel ressies for Boston. :)

I think time trials are great. I know it has helped me figure out how realistic or unrealistic my goals are.

[nono]

That is a amazing pace! Wow! :thumbsup2: You might has well make your hotel ressies for Boston. :)

I think time trials are great. I know it has helped me figure out how realistic or unrealistic my goals are.

Thanks! I wouldn't have been able to hold it for a 5K though, I know that! :grin:

I am going to go look at McMillan's target pace levels to see how this stacks up. (Always good to get a second opinion. ;) )

[mickeyndvcfan]

Well, I did my 2 mi race this morning. Went well. The course is a bit over 2 mi, but my pace was 7:37/mi. What I needed for the time trial to be sure I was on track with marathon training was a 7:41, so :thumbsup2: yep, I'm right on pace.

Gail, you back home yet?



WTG!!! :cheerleader:

No, I am sitting at the table in our studio at AKV. Going home tomorrow so am taking advantage of ME. Was staying at my mom's for the week and came over here today. Mom is in the rehab where she will be staying for two weeks so she can get her therepy. Not looking forward to going home to all the crapy weather up north. It has been soooo hot and humid here all week (as you already know Roz).

[soozaay]

just stoppin by to say hi. been busy....yada yada yada...i hurt the top of my right foot....pulled tendons...so i'm wearing an ace bandage and not running. i've been keeping up on the walkin' though...actually, it sould be hobbling. i'll probably end up doing the wdw 5k walking...i want my foot to heal and don't want to re-injure it before january. oh well.

hope you are all doing well....i am SURE you are!

[idratherbeinwdw]

Hi!

I don't usually post to this thread but I am curious to know who will be going to the Marathon in January? DD and I will be at WDW 1/9-1/15 so I am wondering if I will intersect with anyone? :wave::scratchchin:

[stimpy]

Great job Nono!:cheerleader:

Hi Mar! We'll be there for the weekend.....the whole family is going to race LOL Dh is doing the half, I'm doing 5K, DS is doing Mickey Mile & DD is even doing a 400 meter run. I know there are several other Peacocks going too :woohoodance:

I have been way too side tracked lately though :boohoohoo: DD has been out of school, & DH has been working alot of OT lately (and then sleeping of course) so I have no one to watch her. Can't leave her alone for 45 minutes, even with the TM since it's in the garage. DS is still in school but since it ends this week, I should be able to get back to it more regularly (he's good at keeping an eye on her while I'm on the TM atleast)

[idratherbeinwdw]

Hi Mar! We'll be there for the weekend.....the whole family is going to race LOL Dh is doing the half, I'm doing 5K, DS is doing Mickey Mile & DD is even doing a 400 meter run. I know there are several other Peacocks going too :woohoodance:



Sounds great stimparoo, what fun! Where will you all be staying?

BTW is there a page somewhere in this thread listing who will be there for the marthon in January 2010? :confused:

[Colorado Belle]

I don't know if there is a page, but I think there are a bunch doing the half and about 5 of us doing the 5k walk which is on Frinday morning (If you could come a day earlier this might be great fun for you and DD to do)

[stimpy]

We're staying at OKW. I think besides CB & myself for the 5K, Jigger & Soozaay are doing it too? And my dad LOL

[soozaay]

Hi Mar....we will be down there 1/6-1/10....DH & I are doing the 5K on Friday. We're staying at SSR, and am waitlisted for BWV.

[Rozzie]

Sorry to hear about the foot Susie. So many setbacks, injuries lately. Think I'll turn around 3x and throw salt over my shoulder.

Mar, we will be arriving the 8th and leaving the 13th. Staying at my beloved OKW. :goodvibes: Scott is doing the Half and I'm doing the Full.

Gail, so how do you like AKV? I would love to stay there, just can't wrap my mind around no places to run there. You would think it would have lots of space to branch out. The rooms look great though, and of course I would love to wake up to the animals.

My 10 miler went okay this morning. We started at 0500 from the local pier. My RP and Scott blew me out of the water though. We were on a deserted stretch of country road, sun coming up, and I was just basking in the beauty of everything around me when I realized they were almost a 1/2 mile ahead of me. I tend to take my LRs slower, so I was not too worried. But still I was like dang, I could get abducted and they would not catch on for at least 2 hours LOL. :p

[nono]

Rozzie good for you for getting your run in....

Susie, just keep at it. Eventually your bod runs out of excuses. ;) At least mine did (sort of).

Well, it's official. I'm depressed out of my mind. So's the rest of my family. The 6+ weeks of rain has gotten to us completely. I didn't do my run today (6 mi). Could still do it. Not gonna.

I'm going to do some yoga, foam roller work, stretches, and thigh master instead (flip flopping tomorrow's workout with today's). Not really the right thing to do, but better than just playing video games and drinking beer all night. I've HAD IT.

[Colorado Belle]

No ijuries here, but first an ear ache (waking up 3 days in a row with that closed 'water on the ear' feeling, then a sty in the eye and now a blip on the lip (cold sore). Yuck. So althou I could and should be walking, I'm just not doing it. Think I might today, but no promises. I find if I'm talking on the phone I can do pretty well on the TM and get in a couple miles before I even realize it.

Nono....I don't blame ya...rain rain rain is depressing no matter where ya are. We've been ok here...rain and sun mingled.

Sending you BIG DRAFTS (of beer, not wind)
:hug1:

[Rozzie]

It's just so dern weird how crazy the weather is. We are praying for rain, worst drought in years. Not a drop to be had. We are going on now 30 days with no measurable rainfall. Global Warming in full effect. ;) Then up NE ya'll are drowning. As much as I want rain, I think I'll take the drought. I love rainy days, but 6 weeks worth would make me bonkers for sure. Nono, no worries. As long as you get the run in sometime or another it's all good. Hope things dry up for you up there. :fingerscrossed:

[idratherbeinwdw]

Thanks for all your date/resort info. If you decide to do any meet ups at parks or Jellyrolls or something I'd love to be included. :goodvibes: I'm sure I'll be pming you (rather than hijack your running thread) to see if maybe we can rendezvous somewhere sometime when we overlap.

CB I like your idea of DD and I doing the race on Friday, I'll definitely mull it over. Is it early in the day? Would it actually mean I would have to get there Thursday night to make the race in time on Friday?

[MatterhornMiss]

Well, I did my 2 mi race this morning. Went well. The course is a bit over 2 mi, but my pace was 7:37/mi. What I needed for the time trial to be sure I was on track with marathon training was a 7:41, so :thumbsup2: yep, I'm right on pace.

Wow, those numbers are amazing!

I feel even slower in this heat and humidity (even changing to running in the morning when the heat is lower doesn't have an effect on the humidity level--ugh, so oppresive!)

I've decided to take a week and slow it down. The groin strain (although it really doesn't feel low enough to be in the groin, more like lower abdomen) I got moving 2 months ago has been bothering me more the past couple of weeks. So this week I'm planning on brisk walking instead of running, and I've started doing yoga for stretching/flexibility and core strengthening exercises.

I officially signed up for the Race for the Taste and I want to be sure I can make it safely without causing further injury!

[Rozzie]

I've started doing yoga for stretching/flexibility and core strengthening exercises.

!

I have been amazed on how much yoga has helped me. I do a core strengthening Yoga workout--and wow, it makes a difference for sure. Sounds like you are doing great MM!

No worries on slowing it down. As it was told to me yesterday by my coach, it's survival mode right now. Whatever it takes to get the distance in, forget about speed right now. I know our heat index is going to be 107 today. :eek: Thank G*d it's my off day! Another hint on dealing with the heat, run when the sun is down. I start running usually around 0430 most days to "beat the sun". It's amazing how many people are out running in the dark that early--I would never have guessed there are other maniacs out there that train in the summer like this. I guess misery loves company. :D

[DisneyGeek]

Well, I did my 2 mi race this morning. Went well. The course is a bit over 2 mi, but my pace was 7:37/mi. What I needed for the time trial to be sure I was on track with marathon training was a 7:41, so :thumbsup2: yep, I'm right on pace.

Way to go! :cheerleader:

[MatterhornMiss]

I have been amazed on how much yoga has helped me. I do a core strengthening Yoga workout--and wow, it makes a difference for sure. Sounds like you are doing great MM!

No worries on slowing it down. As it was told to me yesterday by my coach, it's survival mode right now. Whatever it takes to get the distance in, forget about speed right now. I know our heat index is going to be 107 today. :eek: Thank G*d it's my off day! Another hint on dealing with the heat, run when the sun is down. I start running usually around 0430 most days to "beat the sun". It's amazing how many people are out running in the dark that early--I would never have guessed there are other maniacs out there that train in the summer like this. I guess misery loves company. :D

Thanks for the advice. I did run one evening at around 8:30 pm (it's not dark here until 9:30 or a little later) when I didn't have to get up early the next morning (so it was okay to stay up past my bedtime). I don't mind other runners so much as the mosquitoes that enjoy accompaning me on my run. I am one of those people who can spray half a bottle of deep woods off! on me and still get bitten by all kinds of insects.

It's just hard slowing down when I want so badly to be able to increase my speed to finish the 10K in under an hour! Either way, I guess I should just be glad I can finish :blush:

[nono]

It's just hard slowing down when I want so badly to be able to increase my speed to finish the 10K in under an hour! Either way, I guess I should just be glad I can finish :blush:

There's a saying, "Slow down to go fast." :D Really. If current conventional wisdom is right, all your training runs shouldn't be at the same speed anyway. Some should be quite a bit slower than your target race pace.

McMillan's Calculator does a good job of suggesting different training paces based upon data you enter. Link:

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/Running%20University/Article%201/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm

[soozaay]

Susie, just keep at it. Eventually your bod runs out of excuses. ;) At least mine did (sort of).

Oh, I'm not giving up...but my foot constantly reminds me that it's still there and I'm not as young as I used to be. DH & I are starting to eat "clean" or as "clean" as we can, and we already feel better...so hopefully my foot will catch up with the rest of me. :silly:

Looking forward to January! We're staying at SSR and are waitlisted for BWV. We're there 1/6-1/10

[Colorado Belle]

Mar,
The race is early in the morning..I think 6am is when you have to be at the start gate. The walk/run might start at 7 and it's over in 45 minutes.
So yes, you'd have to get in on Thursday. The 45 minute thing is timed, I suppose so that the park can open on time. If you don't finish, they will pick you up and 'van' you to the finish area. But we MUST finish to get our MEDALS.:cheerleader: I think the entry fee is $40.

[soozaay]

But we MUST finish to get our MEDALS.:cheerleader: I think the entry fee is $40.

YES!!!! This is the only reason DH agreed to do this with me...so he could actually have a medal! It's an incentive for me too! :cheerleader:

[idratherbeinwdw]

Mar,
The race is early in the morning..I think 6am is when you have to be at the start gate. The walk/run might start at 7 and it's over in 45 minutes.
So yes, you'd have to get in on Thursday. The 45 minute thing is timed, I suppose so that the park can open on time. If you don't finish, they will pick you up and 'van' you to the finish area. But we MUST finish to get our MEDALS.:cheerleader: I think the entry fee is $40.

Thanks CB. I can't see myself paying for 2 extra nights at a resort, plus the $40 entrance fee plus getting up at the crack of dawn for this. If I was there already that'd be one thing, but the way things are I'm going to have to miss it.

Thanks again for the info, I'll be rooting for everyone to finish! :rocker:

[soozaay]

For those of you that do yoga...
I've been looking to start doing yoga....what kind of classes should I look for being that I've NEVER done yoga before?

Thanks!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Gail, so how do you like AKV? I would love to stay there, just can't wrap my mind around no places to run there. You would think it would have lots of space to branch out. The rooms look great though, and of course I would love to wake up to the animals.

We were on the 5th floor almost at the end of the hall like at the BWV's. We were on the opposite side from the pool of course. We stayed at Jambo and used their pool. We got in late in the afternoon (after visiting my mom) really didn't do any exploring. They said the other pool at Kidani Village was about an 8 to 10 min. walk. Room was ready when we arrived but no animals on our side. Saw some from the windows in the hallway though. Late that night we had some of the longhorned cattle and zebras on our side and they where there in the morning. Had to catch the bus early in the morning so don't know what else wandered in during the day. Liked the room, wasn't as dark as the original pictures made it look. I will definitly stay there again but only for a couple of nights so we can to the Sunrise Safari tour. My sister was talking to a woman on the bus that was staying there and she said that the outside parking over there was for valet and the self-parking was under the resort. You can drive to the section where your room is located.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Forgot to explain that the self-parking under the resort was for the new Kadini Village.

[MatterhornMiss]

For those of you that do yoga...
I've been looking to start doing yoga....what kind of classes should I look for being that I've NEVER done yoga before?

Thanks!

I'm not sure about classes--when I was in school in CA there were free yoga classes offered and I took them some. I basically am just using this DVD by Denise Austin that I like. It's called "Fat Blasting Yoga." At this point, since I haven't used it in four years, it's more like "Butt Kicking Yoga." I can't believe how sore I am!

[nono]

For those of you that do yoga...
I've been looking to start doing yoga....what kind of classes should I look for being that I've NEVER done yoga before?

Thanks!

My first answer is "beginner." :grin:

Does your gym offer several styles? What are your choices?

[soozaay]

My first answer is "beginner." :grin:

Does your gym offer several styles? What are your choices?

my gym doesn't have classes...just equipment & weights
but there are a couple of yoga studios near me, but they both have different kinds of yoga (besides beginner smarty)...I know I can ask them, but was just wondering what other yoga people's experiences were

[nono]

my gym doesn't have classes...just equipment & weights
but there are a couple of yoga studios near me, but they both have different kinds of yoga (besides beginner smarty)...I know I can ask them, but was just wondering what other yoga people's experiences were

Not a fan of bikram (sweaty or hot yoga). Also not into ashtanga (power yoga) these days, as I get enough workout otehrwise. Most instructors aren't purists, but practice a blend of yogas, that's why I asked what they are offering. Because some are purists; some aren't.

My favorite is kripalu because of its focus on body alignment. :goodvibes:

[stimpy]

OK, what did you people do to my husband!? The other night HE was trying to talk ME into going to Disney for MY 40th birthday.....during the ToT 5K!!!! :oweye:

[mickeyndvcfan]

OK, what did you people do to my husband!? The other night HE was trying to talk ME into going to Disney for MY 40th birthday.....during the ToT 5K!!!! :oweye:

:yahoo: So does he want to do the race? You can come and do the 5K. This one is and 18 min. mile and then you get to PARTY after the race!!!:cheerleader:

[athenna]

Stimpy, you should, that sounds like fun!:cheerleader:
I would like to do that one in 2010!

My workout today was the best I have had in a while....Pain free!!!! Did 20 min of stretching and some ab crunches at home as a warm up....Hit the track for an hour and 5 min (Listening to WDW music on my i-pod:goodvibes:) Did a total of 3.36 miles!:thumbsup2:

[soozaay]

Not a fan of bikram (sweaty or hot yoga). Also not into ashtanga (power yoga) these days, as I get enough workout otehrwise. Most instructors aren't purists, but practice a blend of yogas, that's why I asked what they are offering. Because some are purists; some aren't.

My favorite is kripalu because of its focus on body alignment. :goodvibes:

Thanks Nono. I remember seeing bikram & ashtanga listed, but I can't remember if I saw kripalu. I think kripalu is more what I'm interested in. I really want to work on my balance & flexibility. Thank you for your help. :goodvibes:

[soozaay]

OK, what did you people do to my husband!? The other night HE was trying to talk ME into going to Disney for MY 40th birthday.....during the ToT 5K!!!! :oweye:

That's awesome Kimberly! I want to do the ToT 5K next year.

[Rozzie]

OK, what did you people do to my husband!? The other night HE was trying to talk ME into going to Disney for MY 40th birthday.....during the ToT 5K!!!! :oweye:

Come on down! This race is a blast. So much fun and a lot less pressure on pace requirements. The after party is way cool, much better than the Porncess--PROMISE!! :grin:

Well I survived trails tonight. 102 temp with heat index near 112. Not so good news, I got a new scale. One of those fancy smancy ones that are super accurate with body fat %'s, water %'s, etc. Well guess who is 3 lbs heavier than previously thought? :boohoohoo:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Well I survived trails tonight. 102 temp with heat index near 112. Not so good news, I got a new scale. One of those fancy smancy ones that are super accurate with body fat %'s, water %'s, etc. Well guess who is 3 lbs heavier than previously thought? :boohoohoo:

Well, it has to be muscle weight because you can't be gaining any other weight running in that nasty weather you are having. It was just awful last week in Fla. Sooooo glad I could do a lot of my walking in the pool. We were walking in there for a good two hours a day.

[PoohsPal]

Roz - Scales are all different. You can't worry about a diff from one to teh other, silly. You look aweseome, what else matter? Even my Scott said how godd youlook when he saw teh porncess pix.

Sooz - Hope you can find a class that fits you!

Kimberly - COme to ToT!!!!!!

OK, 2nd day of brace being off. Swam (with brace just in case) last night. Went well. If biking goes well tonight, I'll do a short sprint tri Sunday. :fingerscrossed:

[Rozzie]

OK, 2nd day of brace being off. Swam (with brace just in case) last night. Went well. If biking goes well tonight, I'll do a short sprint tri Sunday. :fingerscrossed:

I thought of you all day Sat. My RP did her first sprint TRI this past Sat and fell in love with it. She even placed 2nd in her age group, for 1st timers. I was so happy for her. She wants me to get started doing them but it takes everything I have just to run! :D Hope things work out that you can compete this weekend. :fingerscrossed:

[PoohsPal]

Roz - Seriously, I think doing a sprint tri is way easier than a half and I like half's. Plus, you do more XYT and ease up on the running. We do 1 LR, I brick (long bike with 10 to 15 min run after) 1 to 2 swims and one long bike per week. So far, the long bikes are no more than an hour, although tehy will get longer as we get closer to the olympic distance in late August. Plus, teh swim and bike are so much easier in teh summer than the run.

Did my 12 miles last night. The heat stunk. Should eb 10 degrees cooler fro the race at least. Of course, that temp was hot for me last week and I can't say I've acclimated. DOn't know how you do it Roz!

nono - Did a race a cuople of weeks ago in an area known fo fudge. Thought of you anyway, but especially when dh said that he wished they'd hand out fudge on the course. I can't believe I hadn't told him about our fudge conversations.

[nono]

nono - Did a race a cuople of weeks ago in an area known fo fudge. Thought of you anyway, but especially when dh said that he wished they'd hand out fudge on the course. I can't believe I hadn't told him about our fudge conversations.

You have to try it for a race sometime -- just an itty bit in your mouth. Ahhh, total refreshment. There's a study out there of bicyclists who rinsed their mouth w/sports drink v. ingesting it, and they got a positive performance hit just from rinsing. I feel that way about a 1/4" cube of fudge! :love:

[idratherbeinwdw]

You have to try it for a race sometime -- just an itty bit in your mouth. Ahhh, total refreshment. There's a study out there of bicyclists who rinsed their mouth w/sports drink v. ingesting it, and they got a positive performance hit just from rinsing. I feel that way about a 1/4" cube of fudge! :love:

You rinse your mouth with fudge and then spit it out? Remind me to avoid your race path. :D

[nono]

You rinse your mouth with fudge and then spit it out? Remind me to avoid your race path. :D

Uh, no. It dissolves instantly and is absorbed in one's mouth. Nothing left to ingest.

[idratherbeinwdw]

Uh, no. It dissolves instantly and is absorbed in one's mouth. Nothing left to ingest.

Nono you do realize I was kidding, don't you? :wave:

[nono]

Nono you do realize I was kidding, don't you? :wave:

Uh huh. Just tired when I responded. Decided it was best to make sure I was clear for anyone else reading along. I just got up from my nap. Woke up at 4 a.m. raring to go, and nothing to do. It was lovely out. But, NOT a running day. :boohoohoo:

So, I watched the dawn break from my deck.

[mickeyndvcfan]

So, I watched the dawn break from my deck.


At least it was one of the rare days that you could actually see the dawn break around here. Did you gets some pics?

[nono]

At least it was one of the rare days that you could actually see the dawn break around here. Did you gets some pics?

No pics. Yeah, I hear ya on the weather. I think that's why I was up -- I think my bod knew "things" were different today. :) D woke up around 4:30 and I made her go look at the sky too before heading back to bed.

[Rozzie]

Wait till' I get my hands on the punks who stole my water tonight. On a 9 miler no less. :mad:

[nono]

Wait till' I get my hands on the punks who stole my water tonight. On a 9 miler no less. :mad:

Put a few drops of yellow food coloring in it next time...

[PoohsPal]

ROz - Oh no!!!! :mad:

nono - :rotfl2:

[Rozzie]

14 miler on deck for in the morning. (trying to find yellow food coloring now ;)) Got my hair chopped super short today to help with the heat. I think it might be shorter than Scott's LOL. :p

[nono]

Mr Nono and I are neck and neck for shortest do...

Speaking of which, Rozzie and Gail, I can't believe neither of you tagged him on Facebook with a Thriller tribute. :grin:

[DisneyGeek]

I set a new PR in my 2nd 5k today! My Garmin gave me a time of 31:05.90 for the 5k itself; that beat my previous race time by ~1 min, 8 sec. !!! :yahoo:

I was a bit worried going in; on a training run Friday evening I did something (pulled a muscle?) in my right side just above my hip. Not sure what I did, but it hurt to walk Friday night and was still sore on Saturday. Left Sat. as a planned "off day".

I managed to run straight for the first 2 miles, then I walked some on and off a total of 3 times. Course was pretty flat and the few turns it had were well marked. Not sure exactly what it was, but temp. and humidity weren't bad at all. Rain held off until the end of the awards ceremony. Hopefully the official results will be online in the next few days; I'd like to know where I placed and my chip time, etc. All in all I was pretty happy with my performance, especially under the circumstances! :D

Their was one VERY annoying thing; I pre-registered over a month ago but they already "RAN OUT" OF XXL SHIRTS when I checked in. It was more than an hour before the gun, and got to the table about 17 min. after check-ins began. Grrrrrr... :mad: I got an XL, maybe it will fit OK. Haven't tried it on yet.

So despite a little pain in my side I still need to strut a bit today... :goodvibes:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Mr Nono and I are neck and neck for shortest do...

Speaking of which, Rozzie and Gail, I can't believe neither of you tagged him on Facebook with a Thriller tribute. :grin:

Oh, I figured that your household was in mourning :boohoohoo:...have you been listening to Thriller all weekend? :listen:

[mickeyndvcfan]

DG...Congratulations on your PR!!! :cheerleader: Hope your side feels better quickly.

[MatterhornMiss]

I set a new PR in my 2nd 5k today! My Garmin gave me a time of 31:05.90 for the 5k itself; that beat my previous race time by ~1 min, 8 sec. !!! :yahoo:

WooHoo!!! :cheerleader:

[MatterhornMiss]

Well, I started back on my running schedule after 8 days off. I must say, after starting yoga, I can definitely tell I'm developing muscles in new places. The run itself felt pretty awkward and I had a difficult time finding my pace, but I think part of that is I did a run-walk (the plan for Sundays) and every time I started running, I seemed to either be going up a hill or down one. We'll see how the three miles on Tuesday goes!

[Rozzie]

Mr Nono and I are neck and neck for shortest do...

Speaking of which, Rozzie and Gail, I can't believe neither of you tagged him on Facebook with a Thriller tribute. :grin:

Well to be honest I've been in my own little grieving state. :p Seriously I feel like I lost part of my childhood. I was one of those preteens that had his poster all over my room, in the fan club, going to marry him and all. I do have to say I did not have any of his songs on my IPOD though LOL. ;)


Well, I started back on my running schedule after 8 days off. I must say, after starting yoga, I can definitely tell I'm developing muscles in new places. !

Good for you MM! I have been lacking in my yoga, did not do any all week and my body hates me right now. You are going about things the right way, and are going to be a much more balanced runner than me.

DG-WTG! See how addicting it is!! Ha, it is like crack. You did great, and just think what you will be running next year. Hope your side gets to feeling better.

Well I had to make a very hard decision today. Going to have to break down and join the YMCA. It's 2 blocks from my house, really convenient--and I need access to weights. I am developing classic runners knee. Hurt like the dickens today on my 14 miler. I let my RP run ahead with Scott and I did some scheduled walk breaks (about every 30 min, walked for 1 min) with a friend from Disney Running that lives in town. Thought if I did not run as hard and took breaks the pain would be better. Well it was actually worse. :rolleyes: So now I need to do focused PT work involving weights to build up the areas around my knee. I figured I'll take Yoga up at the Y too, I might be more committed to it if I had a class to go to. I just don't know how I am going to do all of this, plus run, oh yeah, my job!! These 45+ mileage weeks suck the life out of me. Told Scott today I needed to quit to be a full time athlete. For some reason he laughed hysterically. :scratchchin: ;) :D

[nono]

I got an XL, maybe it will fit OK. Haven't tried it on yet.


DG, congrats! And, with all you are doing, even if it doesn't fit today, I'm sure it'll fit very soon. :rocker:

[nono]

Well I had to make a very hard decision today. Going to have to break down and join the YMCA. It's 2 blocks from my house, really convenient--and I need access to weights. I am developing classic runners knee. Hurt like the dickens today on my 14 miler. I let my RP run ahead with Scott and I did some scheduled walk breaks (about every 30 min, walked for 1 min) with a friend from Disney Running that lives in town. Thought if I did not run as hard and took breaks the pain would be better. Well it was actually worse. :rolleyes: So now I need to do focused PT work involving weights to build up the areas around my knee. I figured I'll take Yoga up at the Y too, I might be more committed to it if I had a class to go to. I just don't know how I am going to do all of this, plus run, oh yeah, my job!! These 45+ mileage weeks suck the life out of me. Told Scott today I needed to quit to be a full time athlete. For some reason he laughed hysterically. :scratchchin: ;) :D

At least it keeps you out of the bars! :p

Also, if the Y doesn't work out, SLIDEBOARD!

[DisneyGeek]

Well I had to make a very hard decision today. Going to have to break down and join the YMCA. ... For some reason he laughed hysterically. :scratchchin: ;) :D

Good luck w/ with Y & PT!

And if you figure out a way to swing the full time athlete LMK how as long as it includes a sufficient travel budget to get to events. I would probably enjoy the training to do ALL the Disney races... Wait, the vaguest thought of even attempting the Goofy in the DISTANT future sounds painful! :scared07: Lemme' start with a WDW 5k first since I know I can do those. :D Too bad it doesn't look like it will fit my schedule & budget for a few years... :(


DG, congrats! And, with all you are doing, even if it doesn't fit today, I'm sure it'll fit very soon. :rocker:

Thanks, and it turns out the shirt did fit. Whod a thunk? DW said it looks fine, and we had dinner with my parents, brother & SIL last night and they agreed. I wonder how much the pre-shrunk cotton will REALLY shrink?

[PoohsPal]

Craig - COngrats on the PR!!!!!!!!

ROz - :hug1:HOpe you can work out a schedule. I have a friedn who does weights and bike adn only does 2 runs a week and still does Goofy. So, trading a wekely run for strength trainig fro that knee will porbably do you a world of good.

MM -Yay for getting back on track.

I had a sprint tri yesterday. Gave me a big wake up call fro all the work outs I've been missing. Plus must get more open water swims in again. Will try for a full report later.

[athenna]

Well done, Craig:cheerleader:

[Rozzie]

ROz - :hug1:HOpe you can work out a schedule. I have a friedn who does weights and bike adn only does 2 runs a week and still does Goofy. So, trading a wekely run for strength trainig fro that knee will porbably do you a world of good.

.

While I do agree with you, my coach would disagree with you and I. :p He believes in running more to become a faster runner. If you need additional training, you need to go to 2x a days. (:eek:) So that is what I'll do for the mean time and see how it goes. When I look at my schedule, it is terrifying, but at the same time I can say I believe in the more you run the easier it is theory. Maybe not easier on the body, but easier to do LOL. At least for me it works out that way. The knee is better today and no one seems to think it's that serious. Yahoo. :)

BTW, if you think you did so bad this weekend, how did you come home with all your loot? Congratulations again on your placings. :thumbsup2: Very impressive indeed.

[PoohsPal]

Roz - I just see that as a sure fired way ot get injured. Case in ppoint is HS crosss. Ran 5 to 6 miles per week, 8 to 12 miles per day. Min you I was XX pound lighter then too. We were all injured by teh end of the 3 month season. now, I know that's extreme, but I think your coach is too. Please be careful.

As for how I got the loot......

And now for, the rest of the story……
For the last month, our training has been awful. Not necessarily 100% our fault, but it’s been bad. We saw this local tri and were pretty sure we wanted to go for it. If nothing else, we just needed to add a hard workout and get some transition practice in. Then 2 weeks before the event, I sprained my wrist. So, we didn’t sign up until I knew I’d be ok to swim and ride. Wednesday, we made the call and signed up. From Wed to Friday, the course map changed twice and no mention of that was noted on the website. Grrrr… I’m a little anal about getting lost these days, but what can you do when they keep changing the course????

OK, so we arrive that morning and it seems like a great day to race. A bit windy and chilly but that beats the heck out of too hot for me.

Here’s the transition and Scott setting up.

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We scoped out the immediate area pre-race and the hills up from the beach did not look fun. Here’s the first one. A sand path through the dune grass.

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Then we had grass and then up another sandy hill. Ugh.

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Oh well, we’ll deal with it. The 2nd hill had a lot of sticks though and that concerned us a bit.
We finished setting up. I redid my helmet and gloves a thousand times, but finally had a setup I was pleased with. Then, it was off to the beach for pre-race meeting.

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So, finally, it was time to start. It was chilly down on the beach, but I knew the water was warmer than the air, so it’d feel good to get in at least. Had a lot of shallow until we could swim,but I finally dove in. With all the swimming I’d been doing I couldn’t wait to put it to use. Did about 10 strokes, focusing on not going too fast and running out of breath and then sighted. Could nto make myself go back in. I was already out of breath. Ugh. Breast stroke, side stroke, back to crawl. Did it for a while, but it just wasn’t working for me. WTH? OK, almost ot the first bouy and was already last. On the bright side, the long course people would be lapping me so I wouldn’t be all alone. Guy in Kayak asks if I’m ok. “Yeha, I’m fine. Just really slow.” L Ugh.

About ¼ of the way through and I’m getting lapped. Oh joy. Still struggling to do the crawl. Really, I’d just about given up. Oh, and I got a cramp. I never get that. Didn’t do anything different. WTH? Plus, I’d had to pee since before the pre-race meeting and couldn’t. Grrr… I can’t go while moving. Not like I was going that fast, but still wasn’t happening. Ugh. Just hoping I could make the whole race, as I did not need to add a potty stop to my slow time. How the heck will I do twice this distance in 2 months??????

Oh and then my goggle started to leak. Finally, made the last turn and had about ¼ to go. Now, there’’s only about 12 long racers behind me. Swell. Here I thought I was doing so much better. Made up my mind to do the crawl again. Just couldn’t get the core to go. So, I was one-sided and started going off course. Ugh. I finally finished and had about 6 long course people behind me. Hadn’t seen a short course person in who knows how long. L

As I take off my goggles, it gets better. The leak seems tto have washed out a contact. Checked inside my goggles, nothing. Feeling my eye, nothing. OK, not only do I suck, I’m going to spend the rest of the race blind in one eye. This should be fun on the bike. The road was not in great shape, so no a good sign.

Run up the first hill. Still checking my eye dreaming of my contact coming back. Why did I not pack a mirror for transition?????? Ran about half way up the next one and said forget it. I walked up the rest and jogged into transition.

By this point, I really don’t care how fast T1 is. It really doesn’t matter. Girl next to me is in the long course and says she’s wishing she was done. I said it could be worse, you could have been this slow and only finished the short course. Oh, darn. Forgot to lap my watch. That’s ok. Not like I wanted to know how slow I was anyway.

Yeah, I was having a pitty party for myself. The inside band of my chip bad had come loose. Yeah, wish I hadn’t chosen not to pin it. It’s full of sand, so I dump that in the bucket. Wash off my feet and such, put on my helmet. Mirror fall off. Guess it will stay behind. Go to put my gloves on and one is gone. Not under the bike. Not anyway., Spent quite some time searching and decided to give up. Got the bike down and it was on the ground. Must have been on a pedal or something. Ugh. Can I just say uncle and be done? No. I'm not going there.

[PoohsPal]

So, hop on my bike, riding with 1 eye. Lovely. The girl next to me in transition (who, BTW, had a little Mermaid towel, very cool) was giving me some kind of encouragement. Yeah, I’m in the BMZ and having a pity party. I wasn’t rude, but should have just said thanks and shut my mouth instead of whining.

Get on the bike and grab my Gu. Swell, my race belt is upside down. At least I didn’t dump everything out, I guess. Finish my Gu, can’t get my pocket open for the empty pack. Could not find a place to put it so shoved it down my skirt. Nice, now my hands are stickey too. A few blocks further, I notice my belt is crooked, grab it to straighten and rip the number. Geez! Stop and grab a pin and pi it. From now on, it will be pinned in the center to avoid stopping my bike or running backwards through crowds. OK, back on bike. Oh, am I supposed to be racing? Hmm, I think there may still be a long course person or 2 behind me. Yay.

OK, time to get in the zone and go. My first 2 miles are absolutely pitiful. But wait…..I can now see out of both eyes. Woo hoo! Still, this kind o f stinks. Of course, the first half is against the wind. So, I’ll accept what I get and then really go hard when I have the wind at my back. Still, I was totally out of it. Couldn’t remember where I was, at what mile marker we split. OMG, I’m so far behind, will I get sent on the long course and not realize? Will this day ever end? Will Scott panic when he doesn’t see me on the out and back? Why do I do these things? I wish I had tunes. Being out here by yourself stinks.

OK, made it through the split to the out and back. 1 mmiore mile and the wind is at my back and I should get some downhills. So far, we only had one decent downhill and lots of up. Of course the road near the bottom of the downhill was in really bad shape, so I took it extra slow. Ugh.

On the out and back, at least I saw people. Others were so friendly and encouraging. That was really nice. Did much better the second half. Sadly, there were 2 spots where the road was torn up. They had carpet about 18” wide to cross. Not bad, but still had to really cut back the speed.
Finally, about a mile from the end I see Scott on the run. Oh, his WISH shirt was such a beacon of happiness for me. There was a great volunteer too who was cheering for the bikers (oh, that’s just me) and the runners. I really did well the last mile. Didn’t make up for the first 5, though.

So, Time to run. Leaving T2, they said waster was to the right, run to the left. No problem. I pack my own water. So, go for the run and take out my Gu. Oh, the race belt is till upside down. Oh well. Finish my Gu and realize that I decided not to carry my water because it’s only a 5K. I know have 1.5 miles to go before I can wash it down. Lovely. I still started out really well, though. Woo hoo! Maybe I can at least end on a positive note. However, I had no focus at all. Really wished I had tunes. The streets were empty and my body just slowed down with no focus and no inspiration. Then, I see this guy mowing his lawn with a push mower. He sees me. Puts the mower on the sidewalk (I was on the road) and stops it. Then, he starts cheering. I almost cried. How incredibly nice was that. Sadly, the high from that didn’t last long.

I kept chugging along, but it’s just so hard on empty roads. Oh, and I got a cramp again. This time I think it’s from not having any water. Just Cytomax on the bike and Heed at the water stop. Must put water on my bike in the future too. OK, my time is pitiful. I just want to be done. It ended on a good half mile straight away. That’s hard for me, as I want to sprint when I see the finish, but that’s too far to go that fast. Oh, and it was as light uphill. Scott met me with about ¼ mile to go. I really wish he wouldn’t run with me. Don’t know why, but it feels wrong. Oh well, at least I’m close and I know he wants to help. (He actually asked later if it was ok to run with me. Being the whimp I am, I said yes. Why hurt his feelings) Anyway, so I finish. Yay for being done.

While I was not happy, it was mostly with myself for not pushing because I felt sorry for myself. On the bright side, I learned a lot and that’s good. The biggest lesson was that I cannot blow off any more training. I really needed that lesson. And, here’s the irony:
1. When we checked results, I had my best swim ever. The field was just that much faster than I had seen before. Had I checked my watch, I would have known. While running, I came up with a new definition for Triathlon. Three chances to screw up a race. Had I just let it go after the swim and done the same after the bike, I could have PR’d the bike and done better on the run. Another lesson learned.
2. While you may be last on the course, you never know what the true story is. As it was, there was only 1 other Athena and no one else in my age group. So, I got 2 medals. (I know, I should have only gotten 1, but the last person in the long course got 2 for the same thing too). So, while I knew I was dead last, I would have felt a lot better getting those medals if I knew I had given it my all. You just can’t give up on yourself.
3. Did anyone notice that my mirror fell off my helmet in T1? Did anyone put together that I wanted a mirror to check for my contact? I didn’t even think of that until last night when I unpacked my mirror. OMG. My mind was just not there. So, as much as you need the physical training, you really have to turn on the mental focus. That really proves how I just really gave up after the swim

So, many lessons learned and I got a good work out in. The race really was nice and there was even a cook out after. Very nice day. I do like how tri’s are more of an event than just coming and showing up for the race. And now, I know what my focus has to be.

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[Rozzie]

Great RR Carrie, you look great with your medal. :) Congrats! :thumbsup2:

[stimpy]

Great job Carrie!:cheerleader:

[mickeyndvcfan]

:cheerleader::yahoo: WTG Carrie!!!!

[Rozzie]

Well I had a great trail run last night. My fastest time yet, and best of all no knee pain. :) It was the last trail run of the season and I wanted to end it on a up note. (Back to the track for speedwork now...) I really needed a shot in the arm, this past week turned me into a whiny baby. It was my highest mileage week to date, and I felt like a cow liver. Then it occurred to me, high mileage weeks I should feel like a cow liver. ;) I think we are all going to have days when we question why in the heck we are doing all of this. Thankfully we will then have a "good" day that reminds us why.

Stimpy, ya'll signed up for the TOT? :listen:

[nono]

Nice report Carrie!

I'll get back to the "extreme" comment later with some observations, but I'm in a rush currently. These people around here seem to think it's my job to make dinner! :grin::oweye:

Shout out to Rozzie....give me some of your current paces....just thinkin' about Rehoboth, and wondering how close we might be able to run to one another. Your training is so much more diligent than mine that I expect you are continuing to gain on me. Maybe we can do this first one within sight of one another??!!!?

[Rozzie]

Shout out to Rozzie....give me some of your current paces....just thinkin' about Rehoboth, and wondering how close we might be able to run to one another. Your training is so much more diligent than mine that I expect you are continuing to gain on me. Maybe we can do this first one within sight of one another??!!!?

My current 5K pace is 8:30--My current 10K pace is about 8:45. Hoping with more training to have my 10K pace down to 8:30 by next season. Will be happy to have a 8:45 pace for 13K--if I can accomplish that it will mean I have shaved almost 3 min's off my pace in exactly one year. I would no where be any where close to even of dreaming that if I did not have a coach. He is tough and has a different way of looking at training for sure, very old school. But to see his own accomplishments (10 BQ's), and those he has trained (top 7 runners in our area are his clients/team members) gives me the confidence he can push me to where I need to be for my own goals. (cough...Boston ;))

My goal Marathon pace is going to be right at around 10:00, hoping to have a sub 4:30. So I'll be behind you for sure, quite a bit. You will have time to get a good buzz going before I stagger across. :grin: If the sub 4:30 doesn't happen, I will try again. Right now, just going to dream big and train hard and see where I land. :D

[jiggerj]

My current 5K pace is 8:30--My current 10K pace is about 8:45.

:rocker: WOW Roz! I am in AWE!!!!!!!!!! :love30: someday...someday...my pace will get there!

Carrie congrats! Sounds like you overcame many, many obstacles and still came out smiling! :thumbsup2:

I haven't set a sneaker on the treadmill or the wide open road in weeks- But it sure feels like I am doing tons of running anyways! ;) This move next month is keeping me more than busy- One good thing I'm down 23 lbs! :)

[nono]

My current 5K pace is 8:30--My current 10K pace is about 8:45. Hoping with more training to have my 10K pace down to 8:30 by next season. Will be happy to have a 8:45 pace for 13K--if I can accomplish that it will mean I have shaved almost 3 min's off my pace in exactly one year. I would no where be any where close to even of dreaming that if I did not have a coach. He is tough and has a different way of looking at training for sure, very old school. But to see his own accomplishments (10 BQ's), and those he has trained (top 7 runners in our area are his clients/team members) gives me the confidence he can push me to where I need to be for my own goals. (cough...Boston ;))

My goal Marathon pace is going to be right at around 10:00, hoping to have a sub 4:30. So I'll be behind you for sure, quite a bit. You will have time to get a good buzz going before I stagger across. :grin: If the sub 4:30 doesn't happen, I will try again. Right now, just going to dream big and train hard and see where I land. :D

Uhhhh, have you looked at target pace levels yet with Coach? Based upon your current 10K pace, if you are having a good day, you might be way sub 4:30:xx. :scratchchin: No pressure. Just sayin' we might be seein' more of each other than you are currently imagining! :cloud9:

My plan is to start out slower than my target pace for the first two miles (so that means purposefully NOT going out at BQ pace). Which would mean that I'll have to make up 30 sec over 24 miles. If things are going my way, it'll happen. If not, I'm getting my primary objective done: gaining experience.

The hardest part of my training right now is not running enough. It's driving me nuts. :silly: But, it is giving me more beach time. And, my diligence with dropping weight for a more comfy race series in the fall is working too. I'm down 7 lbs as of today. 8 more would be ideal, but I'm taking it slow. Supposedly every lb is 1 sec/mi...if that is so, then there's the "make up mileage" for the BQ. :grin:

[nono]

One good thing I'm down 23 lbs! :)

FANTASTIC NEWS!!!! :yahoo:

And yes, someday, you will get to those paces, jigger! In the meantime, concentrate on your immediate job at hand, and then you'll be back in the running game in no time! Sometimes, other things in life have to take priority. :hug1:

[Rozzie]

Wow Jigger 23 lbs? That is incredible. I know you must feel great. :yahoo:

Nono too, wow! :goodvibes:

I am in a plateau that is about to throw me through a window. Same weight for a month, actually gained a lb or two. I really need to get focused on my snacking. I always grab for healthier things, I just still think I am snacking too much. (the luna bars I think is where I am falling off the wagon Kcal wise) It's weird how you can run 40+ mpw weeks and eat decent and gain a lb. :confused: I really want to lose 10 lbs by Nov. Like Nono says, it helps with speed. Plus it takes stress off the joints. Back to the drawing board...

Did you buy a house yet Jigg? This is so exciting. :)

[withdisneyspirit]

I am back in the land of the living or should I say the land where people take the time to read their favorite thread ever and respond too, lol :rotfl2:

Wow, Carrie, what a race report! It is a testament of you and your training that you did not give up! I am so proud of you for pushing on :hug1:and WAY TO GO on the swim pr too :yahoo:

I am really overwhelmed with work and personal lately but I have really missed y'all so I am going to push to get here once every day or two at least! Sorry for being MIA so long. I was out of town the first and third week of June but that is not enough excuse to bail on my Peacock teammates!!!! :blush:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Hey Lisa...good to see ya!!! Glad you made it back in one piece after a week with the kids.

[nono]

Hey Lisa! Nice to have you back!!!!

BIG NEWS! Guess who's going to the VA Beach with me for the Shamrock Sportsfest?????


RENEE!!!! (My dog and running partner). Yep, booked the hotel today and realized they accept pets! So, Mr nono & I had a quick discussion and decided to take her with us. I'm psyched!!! She obviously won't run the marathon, but will be with me for my last training run and first recovery run. Whoo hoooooooooooooo! :yahoo:

[Rozzie]

Hey Lisa! Nice to have you back!!!!

BIG NEWS! Guess who's going to the VA Beach with me for the Shamrock Sportsfest?????


RENEE!!!! (My dog and running partner). Yep, booked the hotel today and realized they accept pets! So, Mr nono & I had a quick discussion and decided to take her with us. I'm psyched!!! She obviously won't run the marathon, but will be with me for my last training run and first recovery run. Whoo hoooooooooooooo! :yahoo:

That is sooooooooo cool! :thumbsup2:

Welcome back Lisa. No worries on being MIA. You were trying to save future generations, so we will let you slide. :grin: Hope things get less hairy for you and you can come and peacock around more often.

[withdisneyspirit]

Awww, y'all are so sweet to welcome me back so quick :D

That is so cool for Renee, nono!!! She will love being with you :goodvibes:

The Rally was quite amazing but I did have to play policewoman a couple of nights. I was last woman up and had to make sure my floor of girls were all in their rooms. One of the other floors sponsor actually checked all the rooms for kids in bed and lights out :eek: :silly: :scared07: I did not; I thought that was way overboard on control freakiness!

[Colorado Belle]

Carrie...what an inspiring trip report. Inspiring because in the face of all those obstacles, you didn't give up.

Roz, I have to agree with Carrie on the over doing it caution. I am not a runner, so there is absolutely no reason why you should pay any attention to my opinion. I was an athlete in my 20's : freestyle skiing. I didn't hurt myself and have no lingering pain or injuries from it. BUT I see old buds who do and I think of old football players who can't even walk. And then Johnnie Mac said that tennis players are condidered OLD at 31 because of the strain they put on their bodies doing the circuit. So my caution isn't that your coach is pushing your body too hard for NOW...it's that I worry that at my age you'll be nursing some worn out body parts. Your coach sounds like he's got a lotof winners in his stable. How old is he and does he have any 'over the hillers' that might be worth talking to, just to see how they are doing after they've reached 'a certain age'.

Meanwhile, all you peacocks make me feel a bit woozy!!!!! I've been a slug this week, tho doing housework is making me sore as hello.

[withdisneyspirit]

I'm one of the older, cautious ones that would exasperate Rozzie's coach, lol! :rotfl2: I am proud though that Rick and I got out and did an eight miler yesterday on our day off work. The humidity was not near as bad as last Saturday when we almost stroked out on a four mile run!!! :scared07: While my knees did not hurt while running, they are swollen today so I am having a rest day :idea:

Happy Fourth of July everyone!

[Rozzie]

How old is he and does he have any 'over the hillers' that might be worth talking to, just to see how they are doing after they've reached 'a certain age'.

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He's 50. He has been running for over 30 years. I am his youngest runner by a long shot. His oldest runner is 68, getting ready to place in the top 10% at Boston, AGAIN. I would say the average age of his running team is 45. Again, that's the face of running. Runners tend to be middle aged, kids are getting grown, career is achieved, not achieved. I believe age is just a number, it's something I think so little about. Did you know that traditionally women get faster as they age? The most competitive age group for men is mid 40s, women early 40s. (Marathon and Beyond stat) Yes as we get older we do get more inury prone. One day I will have to step back and slow it down. That is one of the reasons I push myself like I do now. I have a curiousity of where I could I be if I train hard.

It's the old school mind set--- it works for a heck of a lot of runners. Go to runningahead.com and you will find a whole message board with like minded runners. If you want to run a Marathon, you need to train, hard. Sure you could just "finish", but there are some people out there that have more in mind than just finishing. Before Marathoning for Mortals, before the FIRST mindset, American runners ran like European runners. A lot. Look at Fred Lebow of the NYC Marathon for the old school mindset. Mileage. Something happened along the way, running became a open door. More welcoming, less intimidating. Thank G*d it did, or I would have never had the courage to pick it up without books like MfM, etc.

As far as injuries go, people who run 3x a week get injured. People who run 6x a week get injured. A lot of it has to do with body type, mechanics, and previous history. There are those that are out there who think by running more you lessen your chance of injury in the actual marathon. There are those that think by running more you increase your risk of injury. I see both sides of the coin to be honest. Kinda like the people who think McCain should have won, vs. Obama. 2 opposing camps. I have no problem with and a lot of respect for the Penguin, ie people who advocate a run less mantra. What I like most about him is that there are people running marathons, HMs, that would have never gotten out the door with their shoes on without his inspirational encouragment. I love the fact that not everyone at a race is a size 0 and has 2% body fat. (Lord knows I got body fat to give away at a fat booth) I want all shapes and sizes at races, that is the way it should be. :thumbsup2:

However, my goals are different. So I have to train harder. Will I get injured? Who knows. Will I rehab and recover and come back again? Sure! Just as any runner knows, injuries are something that haunts us all. Do I not push myself toward my goals because of a future injury that may or may not happen? Of course not. That would be silly.

I do know this, I love the Peacocks, I love how we are all different. Different ways we train, different ideas on running/walking. Diversity is what makes us strong. If we all thought the same thing, and trained the same way, what fun would that be coming on here and sharing and reporting our daily runs, thoughts, etc. I think as a group what we have accomplished is amazing. To me, my greatest inspiration is Mama Gail. I get goosebumps everytime I think of how much she has accomplished. And Lisa, I share your story to patients all the time. People who have Lupus have no idea what they can accomplish if they only tried. You are a awesome example of someone that refuses to use excuses. You inspire me. Going Goofy! :love30:

So it's the heat of summer, the rest of America will sit in airconditioned LR's with their feet propped up--but not Team Peacock. Let's go get em"! :wave:

[nono]

I do know this, I love the Peacocks, I love how we are all different. Different ways we train, different ideas on running/walking. Diversity is what makes us strong. If we all thought the same thing, and trained the same way, what fun would that be coming on here and sharing and reporting our daily runs, thoughts, etc. I think as a group what we have accomplished is amazing. To me, my greatest inspiration is Mama Gail. I get goosebumps everytime I think of how much she has accomplished. And Lisa, I share your story to patients all the time. People who have Lupus have no idea what they can accomplish if they only tried. You are a awesome example of someone that refuses to use excuses. You inspire me. Going Goofy! :love30:


You know, it was during reading this part that I started hearing the melody to "America" (My Country tis of Thee) in my head. :p

I look at running philosophies like I look at religion. I do my best to respect them all, but deep in my heart, there are those that I feel are closer to the truth than others. However, I also believe that all contain at least a kernel of truth.

Now, as for the extreme label, I do think that's unfair to give it to Rozzie's coach. I'm out here, running dead-dog hung over on the beach for 7 miles of stink :blech: 'cause the tide was just starting to turn, and doing my best not to hurl. And I did it. On pace. With cramps (the female kind).At 5:30 in the morning. On a Sunday. And what do I get? No label. Not even a mention.

Did I mention I'm turning 45 this year? Can't I get a label? C'mon. Throw a girl a bone. :leaving:

[withdisneyspirit]

Are you kidding, nono??!!!! You are the one that needs labeling :grin: You are the most extreme Peacock in my not so humble opinion!!!!!!!!! :w00t: Lets see...Wild Woman Runner, Eco-Peacock Runner, LOL; I am not the one to choose your most fitting name but you sure do deserve a really good one!!!

I truly love being on the Peacock team too! I loved what Rozzie said about it and I love that we are all different types of runners and we all support each other so well :yahoo:

[withdisneyspirit]

Oh, and thank you so much for the kind words, Rozzie :goodvibes: I really hope I can sustain my training and get through both races in the time limits :fingerscrossed:

[mickeyndvcfan]

I do know this, I love the Peacocks, I love how we are all different. Different ways we train, different ideas on running/walking. Diversity is what makes us strong. If we all thought the same thing, and trained the same way, what fun would that be coming on here and sharing and reporting our daily runs, thoughts, etc. I think as a group what we have accomplished is amazing. To me, my greatest inspiration is Mama Gail. I get goosebumps everytime I think of how much she has accomplished. And Lisa, I share your story to patients all the time. People who have Lupus have no idea what they can accomplish if they only tried. You are a awesome example of someone that refuses to use excuses. You inspire me. Going Goofy! :love30:

So it's the heat of summer, the rest of America will sit in airconditioned LR's with their feet propped up--but not Team Peacock. Let's go get em"! :wave:

I'm so honored to be your inspiration, but I would not have accomplished anything without ya'll. I'm sooo proud to be a part of Team Peacock and to have been apart of the first Team Peacock group to have finished a half with. While, like Roz said, we all have different ultimate goals in mind our first one is for our health and to be able to finish whatever race we have started being injury free. This has been a life changing experience for me and I hope that I will be able to do it for a long time.

Roz....as long as you don't let the competitive part of you get in the way of your common sense (and your nursing sense) you will know just how far to push yourself.

Lisa...you own the "Goofy" girl!!!! How could my Princess partner be anything less!!!

nono...I agree with Lisa.....

[DisneyGeek]

Side is still hurting on and off if I move wrong, but I ran this morning after a week off. Still sore so I only did 1.05 miles, but it's a start. 10:07 pace, none of my usual sprint at the end. However, I did start loosening up and feeling better muscularly at the end, only to be huffing a bit on the cardiovascular side. Now at the office my legs caught up and noticed I ran. Ugh. Probably take tomorrow off and try for 2+ miles on Wed. Jeez, I sound like such a wuss compared to what many of you do in the face of a lot harder than I have it. Well, if nothing else I DEFINITELY take huge inspiration from the Peacocks. After all, I probably NEVER EVER would have started running had it not been for this board and now I have two 5ks under my belt! Thanks all!!!

PS- I think nono should get a good title. Maybe people should come up with a few suggestions and then we can open a poll to vote on it? :confused24:

[Rozzie]

I think Nono should be the Ultimate Peacock. CEO, founding member. After all it's she who originally came up with the term "peacock". :)

[DisneyGeek]

I think Nono should be the Ultimate Peacock. CEO, founding member. After all it's she who originally came up with the term "peacock". :)

"Ultimate Peacock" sounds like a potential winner to me!!! BTW, what is the whole story behind the name for Team Peacock anyhow?

[nono]

You are all too kind. I think there has to be more of a sicko - psycho element to it.

But I'm still recovering from the sun and rum to really think of anything...
:cloud9:

Didn't miss a minute of planned training through all the rum and beer-soaked fun with my family. I am a runner and they know it. :)

[mickeyndvcfan]

You are all too kind. I think there has to be more of a sicko - psycho element to it.

But I'm still recovering from the sun and rum to really think of anything...
:cloud9:

Didn't miss a minute of planned training through all the rum and beer-soaked fun with my family. I am a runner and they know it. :)


LOCO NONO :rotfl2:

[withdisneyspirit]

:rotfl2: :grin:

[stimpy]

Loco Nono? Love it :rotfl2:

Well it's official, DH is "surprising" me with a trip to ToT weekend :rolleyes: I had to leave out the PIN code we had for AP rates, my AP. Yesterday I found everything in front of the computer with the rates, dates & reservation number. This morning I had to book the airfare. I'll be soooo surprised in October ;) I'm not sure if we are doing the ToT 5k or just cheering yet. We're still debating about it LOL

I got myself, DH & Dfather those Disney marathon training shirts from disneyshopping.com and they came yesterday. Dh proudly wore his this morning on his run! Hopefully, I'll get to wear mine later today. I've been slacking off big time lately and am mad at myself. I did take a yoga class last night and really liked it. So I have that once a week now on Mondays to keep me going....I'm hoping it keeps me motivated to keep going all week and get back to "training"

Off to make a new ticker!

[mickeyndvcfan]

Loco Nono? Love it :rotfl2:

Well it's official, DH is "surprising" me with a trip to ToT weekend :rolleyes: I had to leave out the PIN code we had for AP rates, my AP. Yesterday I found everything in front of the computer with the rates, dates & reservation number. This morning I had to book the airfare. I'll be soooo surprised in October ;) I'm not sure if we are doing the ToT 5k or just cheering yet. We're still debating about it LOL

I got myself, DH & Dfather those Disney marathon training shirts from disneyshopping.com and they came yesterday. Dh proudly wore his this morning on his run! Hopefully, I'll get to wear mine later today. I've been slacking off big time lately and am mad at myself. I did take a yoga class last night and really liked it. So I have that once a week now on Mondays to keep me going....I'm hoping it keeps me motivated to keep going all week and get back to "training"

Off to make a new ticker!


:cheerleader::yahoo: The Stimpys are coming for ToT!!!!

[MatterhornMiss]

I have a question about this "packet pickup" for WDW races. It is still okay to pick up the packet the morning of the race, right? I'm looking at some awesome fares on SWA, but I wouldn't get to WDW until after it closes on Saturday evening. The Disney endurance website states there will be packet pickup on Sunday morning, but that time isn't listed on the active.com registration page.

[Rozzie]

MM--you talking the RFTT, right? If it's a morning race, I would verify they will have packet pickup somewhere before I book a airfare. Either call the Endurance office # or post the question on Disneyrunning.com. I know for the bigger morning races they have no same day pickup. TOT however they have packet pickup till' 4pm, or something like that.

Stimpy--Yahoo on coming for TOT! How on earth though could you reframe from running the funnest race of the year? It's a blast and a easy pace race. You get a medal too, that has a moving elevator you can move up and down. If that's not worth $85 I don't know what is! :p Seriously you might as well do the 5K, you would still have to buy party tickets to see us--and with the 5K it's included in the price, with the medal, and the shirt. Have fun at yoga! I just love it, I feel so good afterwards.

I had my first track workout in 2 months last night. 12 X 200. Coach said we were going to feel "great" afterward. Hurt like heck at the beginning, but as we went through them, lo and behold, legs loved it. All the heavy mileage had me so tight, stretching them out with sprinting really made them happy legs. It was one of those things I would have never believed unless I felt it for myself. You gotta love running! :D

DG, hope the side starts improving for you. I know you do a lot of core work, have you tried some yoga moves? A lot of runner guys I know swear by yoga too. Not just a chick thing. ;)

[nono]

Rozzie,

I've never done track workouts, but everyone I "know" swears by them. I'm changing up my schedule to try something that might favor my body better on the weeks that Mr Nono isn't traveling. I'm moving my hill workout (on TM) to tonight as my first run of the week instead of second. Then tomorrow I'll have an easy 5 mi outside.

Going to see how it goes. Since the hillwork is irritating to my achilles, I figure it might work better to come off a full day's rest and into that workout, vs. the day after a mid-mileage day. I've also cut the duration and intensity of the hill sprints to adjust for my weakness. Adhering to the spirit of the plan, not the letter. :thumbsup2:

Stimpy, you crack me up. Hope you are happy about the choice by the time October rolls around. :hug1:

[Rozzie]

I hear ya' nono on the achillees issue. My problem is that I really need hill work for my knee strengthening, so for right now it's on the calendar. If my achillees starts acting up I'll have to back off the hills for sure. Why do my problem areas make training so confusing? Do this, strengthen that, but irritate this. Ughh. The knee is feeling better, the quad exercises hopefully are helping--or maybe the knee is tired of me cussing at it. :p I do like track workouts, they are hard, but great for leg turnover and form. Two of my weaknesses. :blush:

Oh, Lisa, would you care to join Scott and I in hot Lanta' March 21? We think we might do the ING. :fingerscrossed: (not just Lisa of course, come one come all!)

[nono]

Guess what -- didn't get to do TM at all. Have some drills as a warm up before the TM, and something too tight to believe was happening in my right thigh. Probably from bracing against S during swim lessons yesterday.

So, as they say "All workouts are in pencil." Will hop on the treadmill this morning, and probably pull a double today and go out with Renee tonight for my base run too. Just figuring out all the other crap on my schedule today. :)

Have a good one everybody!!!

[MatterhornMiss]

Arrgghh!!! Because I couldn't get in touch with anyone at Disney endurace about packet pickup for Race for the Taste yesterday, I didn't book my flight, and now all the $60 fares have sold out. So, I'll be paying $50 more now for a flight in October. :mad:

In more depressing news, I was supposed to run 3.5 miles yesterday, but after 2 miles, my body just would not go anymore. I don't know what happened. Yes it was hot (I ran at 5pm) but not humid. I hadn't had dinner yet, but I had a protein bar before my run. I ran 4.5 miles Saturday (up and down hills then, too), no problem. It was very disheartening. :(

[Rozzie]

Nono, good luck on your double! I just love how versatile you are being with your runs. One benefit to being your own coach, you can really just listen to your body and totally get to know what it needs. Wishing a pain free run for you. :fingerscrossed:

MM, did you post your question on DisneyRunning, on the RFTT forum? There is a whole forum just for that race. Sorry your tickets sold out. Also don't worry about the run. We all have runs that our body just says "no" too. It's better to reign up and live to run another day then try to work through something. (I have shortened runs many times myself) Even my Coach on Sunday could only do 2 miles of his 18. Felt something weird and just walked back to the car. It's not worth further aggravating a pain, and have it turn into a injury. The heat affects us more than we think, even if we think it's not that bad out there. Hang in there, you are doing great. :thumbsup2:

[MatterhornMiss]

Thanks for the encouragement. I didn't ask on disneyrunning. I finally got in touch with someone today on the phone (I had to ignore the prompts for RFTT) to ask. She said there was "usually" packet pickup before the races, they just didn't advertise it because they want people to pick up sooner. When I pointed out it was listed as a Sunday am pickup before the race on the website (though not on active.com), she said if the website indicates there will be one then there will be. Since the airfares went up, I could book a flight for the earlier time for the same price as the (previously) $60 flight. I should be able to squeeze in a trip to WWOS before pickup ends on Saturday.

I'll finish that race--even if I have to walk across the finish line (but I hope to run)!

[nono]

Nono, good luck on your double! I just love how versatile you are being with your runs. One benefit to being your own coach, you can really just listen to your body and totally get to know what it needs. Wishing a pain free run for you. :fingerscrossed:


Part 1 went fine this morning. 4 x 1 min hill spints w/2 min recoveries (1 min walking, 1 min running at recovery pace). Warm up and cool down was 1 mi. each at recovery pace. Comes out to a nice even 3 mile run.

Part 2 will be after a pizza slice settles in my stomach. Just a 5 miler at base pace. I'll take Renee for that one if it cools off enough.

For me, after a couple years running, I could handle consecutive days running and even running twice a day. I couldn't the first couple years, so it would have been hard for me to train for a marathon then. And, if I'm not flexible, I'd go :silly: with having to accomodate Mr Nono's travel schedule and the law that says I can't leave my kids alone to go running! :oweye: :D

[Rozzie]

So does everyone remember my quest to find a running dog? Well I found one, or should I say she found me. Followed me for 7 miles last night on my run. I saw a vet doing some yard work out in her front yard and got her to look her over. (gotta love small towns) Looks hungry, but not abused. Most likely someone's dog that they don't want (moved away) or not looking for. Paper had no adds for her, no posters up. I must have stopped a dozen people on my route and no one had ever seen her before. She is medium, chow/lab mix (short black hair, chow face with chow tongue), with cut ears (Vet said she might have been cut to be a "bait" dog for the local dogfighters :() super friendly with people and other dogs. She ran the entire time, sometimes stopping to sniff, but she would realize I was up the road and come up full blast and then run beside me for a mile. We brought her home of course. In back yard now, going to take her to Vet when I get off to make sure she is healthy enough to stay at my house with my kids till' I figure out what to do with her. Going to put a add in the paper and call the 2 city pounds and see if anyone has called looking for her. I really had come to terms with having only 4 dogs, not 5. :confused:

[patdaddy]

Hi all. Second post---new here, but not to DVC (member at OKW since '93). Woke up feeling fat on my 40th earlier this year, started running on a manual resistance treadmill in the basement, wondered why my pace was so slow...when I switched to the great outdoors I found I was travelling twice as far in the real world as the 'mill's pedometer had been reporting. Found I could do 8 miles :eek:---figured, what's another 5? I'll be running the Disneyland Half over Labor Day weekend & if that goes well enough I'll register for the full event at WDW in January. Thinking about the Twilight Zone Tower run in October if schedule permits...I'm considering making ALL my Disney trips about the running events for a while.

This thread makes me smile!

[Rozzie]

Welcome PatDaddy! Nice to have you, and hoping to get a good race report out of you for the Disneyland Half. That coast to coast medal looks awesome. :) Hope to "see" you around a lot more. So have to agree with you on the TM, the great outdoors beats a treadmill any day of the week.

Well my new found running doggie is back with it's rightful owner. I had called and reported her found to all the shelters and animal control, pound, etc. Her owner called me today frantic and appreciative at work today. She had never gotten out before, and they had taken her collar off for a bath. Murphy's Law I suppose. Anyhoo, they gave me a gift certificate to my favorite cafe here in town--the one we always eat breakfast at after our LRs. Good Karma. :goodvibes:

[stimpy]

Welcome Patdaddy! :wave:

Aww Rozzie, I saw your post on FB about the dof this morning and was so happy for you! Glad to hear that she does have a good home though.

I am so mad at myself right now, it doesn't take much for me to tear up. I've been having problems with my heart the past few days and feel like I can't do anything. :boohoohoo: After the yoga class I was so psyched up to start back at walking/jogging & now another stupid roadblock. I'm really starting to get depressed about the whole thing especially when Dh comes home from his runs telling me how great he did & how much weight he lost etc every day. I haven't broken down and called a dr yet..but did almost go to the ER on Tuesday night (which is a BIG deal for me LOL). I was feeling better on Weds but still not great. I will call tomorrow though if I have time :blech:

[MatterhornMiss]

Hi all. Second post---new here, but not to DVC (member at OKW since '93). Woke up feeling fat on my 40th earlier this year, started running on a manual resistance treadmill in the basement, wondered why my pace was so slow...when I switched to the great outdoors I found I was travelling twice as far in the real world as the 'mill's pedometer had been reporting. Found I could do 8 miles :eek:---figured, what's another 5? I'll be running the Disneyland Half over Labor Day weekend & if that goes well enough I'll register for the full event at WDW in January. Thinking about the Twilight Zone Tower run in October if schedule permits...I'm considering making ALL my Disney trips about the running events for a while.

This thread makes me smile!

Yea!!! Hi!

It's funny--as much as I hate running while I'm running, and as much as a struggle as it was to achieve 3 miles this morning (why am I having so much trouble this week???), I thinking of someday doing a half marathon. Why do I do this to myself? What is the draw of Disney that would lead me to do that which I seem to hate?



Well my new found running doggie is back with it's rightful owner. I had called and reported her found to all the shelters and animal control, pound, etc. Her owner called me today frantic and appreciative at work today. She had never gotten out before, and they had taken her collar off for a bath. Murphy's Law I suppose. Anyhoo, they gave me a gift certificate to my favorite cafe here in town--the one we always eat breakfast at after our LRs. Good Karma. :goodvibes:

That's too bad--I mean I'm glad the dog is back at home, but I'm sorry about your running partner. Did you see any dogs you liked at the shelter?

[mickeyndvcfan]

Well my new found running doggie is back with it's rightful owner. I had called and reported her found to all the shelters and animal control, pound, etc. Her owner called me today frantic and appreciative at work today. She had never gotten out before, and they had taken her collar off for a bath. Murphy's Law I suppose. Anyhoo, they gave me a gift certificate to my favorite cafe here in town--the one we always eat breakfast at after our LRs. Good Karma. :goodvibes:

Glad to hear that the doggie was missed and not abandoned. Sorry you don't have a running doggie partner now. Maybe you could rent her for your runs! :rotfl2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

:welcome::run: Welcome patdaddy!!!

[DisneyGeek]

Thinking about the Twilight Zone Tower run in October if schedule permits...

First off, WELCOME!

As far as Tower goes, I am VERY seriously considering borrowing points and going down for the 5k! Tough decision for me as I don't really have the $$$ budgeted for airfare, etc. BUT I'd really like to go!!!

In other news, I broke 100 miles of logged runs (well, some of it walking) outdoors this morning! :D

[mickeyndvcfan]

I am so mad at myself right now, it doesn't take much for me to tear up. I've been having problems with my heart the past few days and feel like I can't do anything. :boohoohoo: After the yoga class I was so psyched up to start back at walking/jogging & now another stupid roadblock. I'm really starting to get depressed about the whole thing especially when Dh comes home from his runs telling me how great he did & how much weight he lost etc every day. I haven't broken down and called a dr yet..but did almost go to the ER on Tuesday night (which is a BIG deal for me LOL). I was feeling better on Weds but still not great. I will call tomorrow though if I have time :blech:

You sound like me....DH knows that if I ask to go to the ER it's bad. The last time I went and they kept me over (about 6 months ago) was the first time since my son was born (35 yrs ago) that I stayed over night in the hospital.

Hope you are feeling better, but do make sure you get to the doctor's so you don't have to make the trip to the ER.

[Rozzie]

I might have to fly up to LI to get Stimpy to the Dr. First off, a lot of pain around the chest area is not always cardiac. I remember you saying you were having stomach pain not too long ago. I have dyspepsia real bad, and when I get off my medicine it freaking kills me. Sometimes it feels like I am having a heart attack. On medicine, liveable. So sometimes it's nothing too serious, just something that needs to be looked at by a Dr. So just make the appt, and then you can rest in knowing what it is for sure--not fearing the worst. K? :hug1:

DG, I sure hope you can come to the TOT. Would be awesome to meet you in person. :)

[nono]

Stimpy,

I was thinking about you all during my run this morning. As a SAHM, you are always last. And it gets to be a habit/lifestyle/whutever. But there's a thing as dead last, and believe me, you won't do your family any good if you are dead or disabled. It took me having a sit down with Mr Nono to connect the dots for him :rolleyes: to get him on board with not having me last -- because if I got to dead last, then they were all screwed.

So, now he's my biggest proponent of making sure I get time to run, get time for my appointments, etc.

Please, make some time for yourself. You deserve it and are worth it! :hug1:

[stimpy]

Thanks peacocks :hug1: I'll try and call later today!

I'm going to sign up for the ToT too. Just waiting for DH to make up his mind which one he wants to do. He keeps going back & forth between the 5k & 13k.

And I told him that he is officially one of "you!" I caught him looking for half marathons coming up in our area next month :rotfl2:

[PoohsPal]

Hey all! WOrk has been crazy busy, but been keepoing up with work outs, even with the extra work hours. Those xtra hours are really a good thing, though because things have been scary.

Patdaddy - Welcome!

Craig - I didn't see that anyone answered you on teh Peacock thing. Start at post 589. Team Peacock Origins (http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&highlight=Peacock#post18606)

[MatterhornMiss]

I might have to fly up to LI to get Stimpy to the Dr. First off, a lot of pain around the chest area is not always cardiac. I remember you saying you were having stomach pain not too long ago. I have dyspepsia real bad, and when I get off my medicine it freaking kills me. Sometimes it feels like I am having a heart attack. On medicine, liveable. So sometimes it's nothing too serious, just something that needs to be looked at by a Dr. So just make the appt, and then you can rest in knowing what it is for sure--not fearing the worst. K? :hug1:
:)

I agree about the acid reflux. When I run, I get a pain in my chest, but I also burp a lot. So now I've started eating tums before I run. But it's always best to have a medical professional do a thorough exam, just in case. Then you can get back to exercise and feeling better!

[MatterhornMiss]

Craig - I didn't see that anyone answered you on teh Peacock thing. Start at post 589. Team Peacock Origins (http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&highlight=Peacock#post18606)

:scratchchin: :idea: That explains so much!

[DisneyGeek]

DG, I sure hope you can come to the TOT. Would be awesome to meet you in person. :)

Thanks- I'd love to meet the rest of the Team myself!!! :D



Craig - I didn't see that anyone answered you on teh Peacock thing. Start at post 589. Team Peacock Origins (http://dvcnews.com/forum/showthread.php?p=18606&highlight=Peacock#post18606)

Thanks! I read a few pages worth back there and the shirt is cool, but didn't exactly look like a men's cut... ;) Did Team Peacock buttons actually happen, and are there any for ToT this year?

Regarding ToT, I'm getting close to committing. :) I've got a studio @ SSR booked for Friday Oct. 23rd, and a Savannah view studio in Jambo @ AKV for Sat. the 24th. Waitlisted a studio (std. or preferred) @ BWV (during F&W- yeah, right! Why did I bother?) . Airfare is a bunch cheaper on Airtran if I stay one more night, but I'd have to borrow more points. I'm already down to only 50 left in my 2010 UY on my BLT contract as it is! ARGH- I feel some Addonitus coming on, but E would kill me if I think too much about that before we pay off BLT. And taking this extra trip means less $$$ to throw on our BLT loan twoard an early payoff. What a catch 22- Grrr... :mad: Oh well, I'm rambling... Glad it's Friday & everyone have a great weekend! :D

[Rozzie]

Crap day today. Crappy day at work. Ate like crap. Knee feels like crap after last night's hill repeats. Crap migraine from crap I ate at work. So in the end I decided to take the day off. I got a 5 miler Sat and a 16 miler Sunday. I think my body will thank me later. :)

[Colorado Belle]

Check in Stimpy....hoping you just have a case o f heartburn.

I think I broke my ankle today. Posted on Nothingers, so wont repeat.

It might just be a sprain but I heard the dreaded POP noise.

Already booted up on my little ankle cast (I love that its removeable and I can wear shoes.)

[jiggerj]

Sending hugs, ibuprofen and ice to all my fellow Peacocks today!

No running here for me lately unless you count running around in circles and not getting anything accomplished!:mad: :headbrickwall: :oweye:

CB feel better! :hug1::hug1::hug1:

[MatterhornMiss]

Whew! I just ran 5.3 miles! It took almost 65 mins to do so, but I finished! :woohoodance:

I can't believe it myself, but I'm starting to think about the Princess 1/2 marathon in March. . .

[shell045]

Whew! I just ran 5.3 miles! It took almost 65 mins to do so, but I finished! :woohoodance:

I can't believe it myself, but I'm starting to think about the Princess 1/2 marathon in March. . .


I'll be there , though I haven't signed up yet. I'll be a walker though.

I haven't checked in for awhile, I've been volunteer teaching in my kids' summer religious education program.
Hope everyone is doing well....

Welcome to patdaddy!

Have a great evening all.

[Rozzie]

Whew! I just ran 5.3 miles! It took almost 65 mins to do so, but I finished! :woohoodance:

I can't believe it myself, but I'm starting to think about the Princess 1/2 marathon in March. . .

You are running more right now than I was this time last year. The Princess was my first HM. In other words, you are so able to do it!!!!!! :) :thumbsup2:

CB, ouchers! Don't forget RICE too. Hope it heals quickly for you. :fingerscrossed:

Nice to see you Shell!

Jigger, you will be able to do all the WDW races now that you will be close. :idea:

[athenna]

MM, sure hope you'll join us for the Princess! I will be walking, though, but I'd sure love to meet you:)

[MatterhornMiss]

Thanks, I'd love to meet all of you, too! I'd love to be able to talk my sister into running it with me. She'd leave me in the dust, but it would be fun to do it with her. What's this thing about 2 person teams? I couldn't find it explained on the endurance website.

Even though the turtle could out run me, I'm still amazed that in less than 4 months after starting running, I'm able to actually run for an entire hour at a time. :eek: A 1/2 marathon seems daunting, but according to the website I use to plan my training runs, if a person can run at least 8 miles a week, she can train for the 1/2 in 12 weeks. So, I'm there! Plus, I'll have much longer to train than that.

[nono]

Welcome PATDADDY! I realized I never did put that in my earlier post. Always great to have new participants! I'm one of the "Masters" runners too. ;)

Got my 4.7 sort-of fartlek (just 2 speed bursts, v. the intended 4) in last night on the sand. I ran 1/2 mile out and back loops so I passed the family every 1/2 mi. They were digging tunnels in the sand and cheered me on like I was racing. It was fun. It was also freezing. The lifeguards all looked like they were wearing ski parkas -- their wind breakers were so filled up with wind that they looked like puffy coats!

Then I woke this morning to stinkin' H & H (first time all summer). Got out with Renee (my dog) for the first 3, then returned her home and finished up my remaining 5 for a total of 8 miles. I feel like it was further -- just 'cause of the change in temps. But, my heart rate was still low -- never broke 150 despite the heat change. I'll take it! :thumbsup2:

Hope everyone has a great day!

[stimpy]

MM that is so awesome!! :cheerleader:

Dh is really excited....he completely ran the entire 5K he mapped out .:cheerleader:

Me? I still suck and now I have an eye infection too. DD asked me this morning when I was going to stop falling apart :rotfl2:

[DisneyGeek]

Hi all-

Sorry to hear about those with injuries of various sorts... Get well soon and take care of yourselves Peacocks! :hug1:

Onto my news: It's official- yesterday I registered for the ToT 5k! :cheerleader: I also bought non-refundable airline tickets + am booked for SSR Studio Friday night, AKV Savanah Studio (Jambo) for Sat. night and back to a SSR studio on Sunday. Definitely planning to rent a car, ought to make SSR & the resort switches easier I think.

Looking forward to my first Disney race (and stays in DVC properties as now added to my tickers) and meeting everyone. :D

Plus I want that finisher's medal to hang on my wall!!! ;)

I ran (with some walking) 3.56 miles yesterday, averaged a 10:37 pace. Haven't decided what I'm going to do today, if anything.

Still some transient aches every now and then (shoulders sore on and off, side later on, lower back; what gives? Anyone else have migrating but thanksfully minor pain in their trunk during a SINGLE RUN? Weird stuff, but nothing new to me, I just never really mentioned it as I recall...)

[Rozzie]

Too cool DG on the registering! I actually haven't registered yet. :p Need to to that...soon. Nothing feels quite like your first finisher's medal. Aches and pains? Every runner has them time to time, especially with increased mileage. Remember your body is still adjusting to being a running body. Scott (DH) says he hurt like heck the first 6 months of running for him.

Stimpy, LOL on your daughter. Kids say the darndest things.

Good job Nono on the fartleks. I can't imagine how hard it is to run in the sand.

Well I am very happy to report a great LR this morning. 16 miles and no major issues. Some knee pain, but it was after a very steep decline hill--and the best part it went away. My last 2 miles were pain free and my fastest. Very different from previous LRs the past few months. I needed a confidence boost, I was beginning to think I was not a long distance runner. Funny observation, I think Nono you have mentioned this to me before, my knee pain actually was less as I increased my speed. I think I might start believing that theory that running slow is harder on your knees. Another break through maybe this morning is instead of using my GU's for mileage (ie, take a gel at mile 7, 14, etc) I took one every hour I was running. What a difference. :idea: I think as I pour sweat from my body I just need to intake more electrolytes. I know basic stuff, but I'm a slow learner. ;)

[DisneyGeek]

Well I am very happy to report a great LR this morning. 16 miles and no major issues. Some knee pain, but it was after a very steep decline hill--and the best part it went away. My last 2 miles were pain free and my fastest. Very different from previous LRs the past few months. I needed a confidence boost, I was beginning to think I was not a long distance runner. Funny observation, I think Nono you have mentioned this to me before, my knee pain actually was less as I increased my speed. I think I might start believing that theory that running slow is harder on your knees. Another break through maybe this morning is instead of using my GU's for mileage (ie, take a gel at mile 7, 14, etc) I took one every hour I was running. What a difference. :idea: I think as I pour sweat from my body I just need to intake more electrolytes. I know basic stuff, but I'm a slow learner. ;)

WTG on the 16. :cheerleader: Thinking about your less pain with increased speed comment- I wonder how much I should push myself to try and just run through for 5k and see what happens tomorrow morning... I'll play it by ear and see how things go!

[MatterhornMiss]

WOW Roz!!! WAY TO GO! :cheerleader:

[athenna]

Awww, Stimp, I am so sorry to hear about your eye:hug1:


Craig, glad you are doing the ToT...That is one I would love to do for sure sometime...someday!


I had an awesome workout today:cheerleader: I did 5.27 miles, which is the longest I have done in MONTHS:thumbsup2: And I ran a bit too:yahoo: The heck with that quack doc that told me I was too fat to run:mad: I ran 4 loops at the track and ran half way home:) The rest was walking.

[Rozzie]

Just take it nice and slow Jen, lots of rest days in between. I am with you, that Doc sounded like a quack. The sad fact of it all is there are plenty of Dr's (and the general public) that think you should not run--no matter what. Personally I think they say all their anti-running crap because they don't want to run themselves. Ummph. Quacks. :grin: Lots of ice too Jen, and I think you will be okay. :)

[nono]

So, as you guys know, I'm always reading books on running, and the one I'm picking my way through now is called "Run Faster from the 5K to the Marathon" by Brad Hudson. (don't page back 60 pages in this thread -- yeah, I listed as a book a long time ago, but now just about halfway through it!).

Quote for the day: "One of the best ways to ensure that your next training cycle ends in disaster is to stubbornly endeavor to complete every workout in your training plan exactly as designed, no matter what." He then goes on to paint the picture of a sore spot that develops and the runner not taking a day to rest it. Couple weeks later, it's an overuse injury.

I think humans (including docs, Jen!) can underestimate the healing powers of a rest day or two. This coach, Brad Hudson, seems to agree.

[athenna]

Thanks, ladies!
Don't worry, I learned my lesson, I am taking a rest day today, as I did a lot the last 2 days...Dont want to re-injure the knee...I am icing, too, Roz:)

[DisneyGeek]

I had an awesome workout today:cheerleader: I did 5.27 miles, which is the longest I have done in MONTHS:thumbsup2: And I ran a bit too:yahoo: The heck with that quack doc that told me I was too fat to run:mad: I ran 4 loops at the track and ran half way home:) The rest was walking.

Awesome- keep it up :goodvibes: but I would definitely continue to follow the advice of the 'wise ones' on this board!!!

[stimpy]

Jen, if you're too fat to run, then I haven't a hope in the world! :rolleyes: I guess I'm just more aware of it now, but I notice alot of women larger than me out there running and they are flying!

DG congrats on signing up for the ToT. :cheerleader:

Eye is better, no more "heart" pain (felt like someone squeezing it, like Temple of Doom of something....great, now I have images of Short Round in my head :rotfl2:) and heading to yoga again tonight.

DH wants to join the running thread but he's not sure he would be welcomed LOL

[mickeyndvcfan]

Awww, Stimp, I am so sorry to hear about your eye:hug1:


Craig, glad you are doing the ToT...That is one I would love to do for sure sometime...someday!


I had an awesome workout today:cheerleader: I did 5.27 miles, which is the longest I have done in MONTHS:thumbsup2: And I ran a bit too:yahoo: The heck with that quack doc that told me I was too fat to run:mad: I ran 4 loops at the track and ran half way home:) The rest was walking.


:yahoo:WTG Jen......too fat....Ha then I shouldn't have finished the Princess. You're doing great and keep up the good work.

[mickeyndvcfan]

Jen, if you're too fat to run, then I haven't a hope in the world! :rolleyes: I guess I'm just more aware of it now, but I notice alot of women larger than me out there running and they are flying!

DG congrats on signing up for the ToT. :cheerleader:

Eye is better, no more "heart" pain (felt like someone squeezing it, like Temple of Doom of something....great, now I have images of Short Round in my head :rotfl2:) and heading to yoga again tonight.

DH wants to join the running thread but he's not sure he would be welcomed LOL

Glad to hear your eye and heart are feeling better. Have fun at yoga tonight.

Tell DH he is always welcome here. He's running isn't he!

[Rozzie]

Stimpy, tell the Butler to get his arse over here. ;) Glad you are feeling better. :)

Nono, love the quote. I really think the key to my success on my 16 miler was me taking Friday off. I believe the theory that our body operates on the 48 hour cycle, and that rest day really paid off for me. I know my Coach is flexible, he and Scott are always changing up their workouts. Most of it is me and my OCDness to finish the task at hand---which I am slowly making the connection between flexability and success. You know me, sloooow learner. :blush: Just get a board and beat me over the head, it might do me some good. :D

So DisneyGeek, you say you gotta race this weekend? :listen:

[DisneyGeek]

So DisneyGeek, you say you gotta race this weekend? :listen:

What? :eek: Nope, no races scheduled until ToT for me! Just thinking about training strategies at the moment...

Something interesting DW mentioned over the weekend- she'd like to start walking more and eventually get a Garmin once 'it would be worthwhile'. That sounds very promising to me and MAYBE we could go in for a 2-person team event someday (Everest Challenge in 2011???:idea:)! Don't wanna jump the gun, but I can dream, right? :D

[Rozzie]

WTG on the 16. :cheerleader: Thinking about your less pain with increased speed comment- I wonder how much I should push myself to try and just run through for 5k and see what happens tomorrow morning... I'll play it by ear and see how things go!

I am confused DG! I was thinking "5K" race, not just 5K actual distance LOL. OOps. :blush:

Great news about your wife. It means so much to have Mr Roz running too. Plus it makes him "understand" my own obsessive schedule.

[MatterhornMiss]

Quote for the day: "One of the best ways to ensure that your next training cycle ends in disaster is to stubbornly endeavor to complete every workout in your training plan exactly as designed, no matter what."

Haha, now I don't feel as bad when I "cheat" a little bit :p

[DiZ NeE 08]

I am so tired!!! I just ran 7.6mi according to my GPS and I twisted my ankle when I was getting closer to home! which really was a killer

[DisneyGeek]

I am so tired!!! I just ran 7.6mi according to my GPS and I twisted my ankle when I was getting closer to home! which really was a killer

OUCH! Best wishes for a quick recovery!!! :fingerscrossed:

[nono]

I am so tired!!! I just ran 7.6mi according to my GPS and I twisted my ankle when I was getting closer to home! which really was a killer


Great mileage with some bad luck at the end. ICE ICE ICE!!!!!!!

[DisneyGeek]

ICE ICE ICE!!!!!!!

Baby? As in Vanilla Ice... :rotfl2:<Sorry!>

[withdisneyspirit]

I had an awesome workout today:cheerleader: I did 5.27 miles, which is the longest I have done in MONTHS:thumbsup2: And I ran a bit too:yahoo: The heck with that quack doc that told me I was too fat to run:mad: I ran 4 loops at the track and ran half way home:) The rest was walking.

What a jerk that doc was to say that! :mad: While it is true that weight has a bearing on speed for me, you should go check out the runners on Sparkpeople. There is even a team for heavier runners there and like Stimp said, they can fly by me too and put my times to shame. Let me also say that Doc needs an eye test because you are not fat anyway!!!! I agree with Rozzie that they say that because they don't want to get off their butts and move it!! :rolleyes:

[withdisneyspirit]

I have been on an enforced rest from running the past week. 1) I had to thoroughly clean my house for my boys family birthday party :eek: :silly: and 2) even though I had a great 8 miler with DH on July 3, in the days afterward my left knee felt injured :confused24: It is finally feeling back to normal and I am planning a short tm run tomorrow morning with no pain, I hope! :fingerscrossed:

Hope your eye is better, Stimp! MM, I hope you join Jen and I at the Princess HM next year :w00t: Not too sure about the teams though... I hope your injury is long gone too, Geek! That is cool about DW :thumbsup2: Take care of that ankle, Diznee!!!

16 miles, Rozzie? that is awesome :love30:

Your heart rate on your run was so great, nono:yahoo: and I loved that quote!!!!

I did not read everything I missed so I'll just end with Hi everyone! :wave:

[stimpy]

Dh signed up for his first 5K this weekend! Yet he still feels uncomfortable joining the peacocks LOL

[withdisneyspirit]

I wish he would join us, Kimberly! Tell him I said congrats on the 5K :yahoo: I would love to hear a race report from him afterward :fingerscrossed: :listen: :goodvibes:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Dh signed up for his first 5K this weekend! Yet he still feels uncomfortable joining the peacocks LOL


OH, what a big baby!!! Tell him good luck this weekend and once he gets the first one done he'll be looking for more. :rotfl2: Did he decide which one he is doing in Oct.?

[mickeyndvcfan]

Hey Lisa....missed ya around here....hope your knee stays pain free for you tomorrow.

[withdisneyspirit]

Hey Lisa....missed ya around here....hope your knee stays pain free for you tomorrow.

Thanks, Gail, me too :fingerscrossed:

[Rozzie]

Wishing Lisa a pain free run! Knee issues are the pits.

Stimpy, yeah, which race is he going to do in Oct? Are you going to do the 5K? You could walk the whole thing and not worry about pacing requirements since they have the 13K with it. It would be a lot of fun. :)

[DisneyGeek]

For those who did one of the Tower of Terror races before, what is the post party like?

I think there will be at least a few rides open- anyone know which?

Is there any food & drink available (restaurants open and/or free stuff...), especially for the NON-runners?

Did you bring a change of clothes or just hang out in your running garb for a few hours?

Just wondering what I should expect. TIA!

BTW, I had a good training run this morning; ran 2.64 miles before a short walk; overall average pace was 9:58 for 3.24 miles. :)

[stimpy]

Great questions DG, I was wondering about that stuff too :D

Quick question, I was trying to sign up for the 5K....I don't need to get a ticket for the after party, right? It's included in the race fee?

[DisneyGeek]

Quick question, I was trying to sign up for the 5K....I don't need to get a ticket for the after party, right? It's included in the race fee?

Yes, as I understand it the runner gets 1 ticket for themselves included 'free'. Buying tickets is only for "guests"; I bought one ticket for Elizabeth and I think my confirmation (it's at home, I'm at work now) had a listing for my ticket at $0.00 automatically entered...

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Is there any interest in starting a separate thread for ToT and who's going, where they are staying, etc.? (Or does one already exist?) Or would our fearless Peacock leaders prefer we keep it all here???

Also, I changed my room reservations around a bit: Now I'm staying Friday 10/23 & Sat. 10/24 in a studio @ VWL! I'm still switching to a studio @ SSR Sunday night the 25th [flying down Friday afternoon and home Monday]

[mickeyndvcfan]

DG....Roz did the ToT last year so she is your best bet for answers to your questions.

We are all going to be invading OKW

Roz & Mr. Roz
nono & Mr. nono and the nonoettes
Stimpy & Mr. Stimpy
Me & my sister

[PoohsPal]

DG - I did the first ToT. RnRR, ToT and Great Movie Ride were open. It was Pre TSM. HTH! Also, I have a goal to atart an informational thread/stickey that will have who's doing what races and race info. I coudl easily include where staying. However, don't forget that all that info can beput on teh main site calendar.

Jen - :mad::mad:Let em at that quack doc!!!! There are many people much heavier thatn you out there running. I can't imagine someone looking at you adn saying that! COngrats on teh great run!

Lisa - (((hugs)))

Reminder - DOn't forget to sign up for teh DVCNews activities that are happening teh week following ToT!

[Rozzie]

TOT info. :) This is how it worked last year.

PostParty: Tons of fun, not long lines at all. I know Mr. Roz did TSM over and over again without getting off--of course that was with the race still going on. Also like Carrie said, ToT, RNR, and GMR were open. The snack shops by ToT were open. Pizza, salads, chk fingers, etc. Also beer available, but if you want that be sure to bring cash. Cash only on beer. Most everyone who stayed for the party changed at least their shirts. I brought some baby wipes and a different shirt and put it in my race bag I always bring to races. One of those athletic bags with drawstrings suits me fine as it does not take up a lot of space. Last time Mr Roz held it, but this year I will check it at bag check or "baggage claim". You rip a part of your bib off that serves as your receipt to pick it back up. WARNING: Last year it looked a little unorganized and was taking a long time to get your bag. I might see is some of the Peacocks want to to maybe try a bigger bag and combine forces. That way we are not waiting on 5-6 different bags and we can start partying. The after race food was yuck. Don't bother. Over processed nasty fake sugar muffin. :blech: I will stash my protein recovery drink in my bag then go right to the :biggulp:.

Also, this is important. We will talk and get more organized when it get's closer but just to have it out there. I plan on getting to the race early. Last year I dillydaddled too much at the corral area and by the time I got to the start I was pushed all the way back to front of the walkers. Yep no corrals. First come first serve. Plus there will be a lot of 5Kers that were not there last year. I think last year there were 6,000 runners? That is a lot to be pinned up on a narrow street. I have a time goal soooo I plan on arriving early. Plus the first year there were major traffic problems. We walked last year from BCV. I say all of this to say we will have our civic and can get 3 more in our car. Whoever does not mind being early for the race is more than welcome to ride with us. If the race is at 10pm again, I think we will leave OKW at 7pm. I know, I am a freak. But there is traffic getting there, parking, baggage claim, warming up, etc etc. Plus I would like to visit a little while with some other folk that will be coming to the race. :)

This is going to be a BLAST!!!!!! :rocker:

[mickeyndvcfan]

Roz...Do you have to have a park ticket to get in or are we allowed in that early because we are doing the race? I was just wondering for my sister who has to buy park hopper passes. I have my annual pass so I would be alright.

[nono]

Also, this is important. We will talk and get more organized when it get's closer but just to have it out there. I plan on getting to the race early.

I think we found our Team Lead for this event...


:D

[mickeyndvcfan]

I think we found our Team Lead for this event...


:D



I suprised that there isn't a schedule posted already. :rotfl2:

[DisneyGeek]

First to Rozzie: Thanks for the info about last year!


Roz...Do you have to have a park ticket to get in or are we allowed in that early because we are doing the race? I was just wondering for my sister who has to buy park hopper passes. I have my annual pass so I would be alright.

You need a special race party ticket to get in starting @ 10:15 PM. For more info., click "Spectator Resources" from here: http://disneyworldsports.disney.go.com/dwws/en_US/events/eventDetail/detail?name=TowerOfTerrorDetailPage#pip-4 The park is scheduled to close to "regular" business @ 7 PM on race day (Saturday 10/24/2009). As far as I know no one but CMs are going to be in there in between. Guess it takes 3 hours to clear things out and get ready for us to make a mess! :thumbsup2:

[mickeyndvcfan]

First to Rozzie: Thanks for the info about last year!



You need a special race party ticket to get in starting @ 10:15 PM. For more info., click "Spectator Resources" from here: http://disneyworldsports.disney.go.com/dwws/en_US/events/eventDetail/detail?name=TowerOfTerrorDetailPage#pip-4 The park is scheduled to close to "regular" business @ 7 PM on race day (Saturday 10/24/2009). As far as I know no one but CMs are going to be in there in between. Guess it takes 3 hours to clear things out and get ready for us to make a mess! :thumbsup2:

Thanks for the info DG, but my sister is going to be racing also. Just wanted to make sure that the racers didn't need a regular park ticket to get in the park.

[DisneyGeek]

Thanks for the info DG, but my sister is going to be racing also. Just wanted to make sure that the racers didn't need a regular park ticket to get in the park.

Ahh, gotcha! Misunderstood, sorry. Looking forward to the race! :D

[MatterhornMiss]

Well, I was supposed to run 4 mi this am, but only pulled off 2 1/2. :( I don't know why I stopped--I think I could've gone the full 4. I don't like getting up and running first thing in the morning, but the afternoons are so hot and humid, and (since I'm having to get up earlier for work) I'm so pooped by the time I get home in the afternoon. I've been falling asleep around 7:30 every evening!

Saturday is another 5 miler--but the weather looks wonderful! And, I can actually sleep past 7 am, so that should help.

[withdisneyspirit]

Well, I was supposed to run 4 mi this am, but only pulled off 2 1/2. :( I don't know why I stopped--I think I could've gone the full 4. I don't like getting up and running first thing in the morning, but the afternoons are so hot and humid, and (since I'm having to get up earlier for work) I'm so pooped by the time I get home in the afternoon. I've been falling asleep around 7:30 every evening!

Saturday is another 5 miler--but the weather looks wonderful! And, I can actually sleep past 7 am, so that should help.

What program are you doing? How early do you start? I know just how you feel about trying to do it in the afternoon; I am way too pooped if I don't get it done in the am!!!! :scared07:

[PoohsPal]

Gail - You don't have to enter the park to get to the start. No problem w/o a tic.

Roz - GLad to hear teh ride lines were better last year but not glad to ehar that they did not imporve on teh walker/runner start situation. Yuck.

The first year, dh and I just packed our bags and bussed to BW. CHanged at BWI lobby and walked to MGM. We were at SSR, so we just bussed back from BW to DtD. Another option for OKWers w/o a vehicle. If someone wants to come to BCVand change in my room, let me know. Just a studio, but dh and I will just change early.

[MatterhornMiss]

What program are you doing? How early do you start? I know just how you fee about trying to do it in the afternoon; I am way too pooped if I don't get it done in the am!!!! :scared07:

It's a schedule I found for building up endurance towards a 10K. It increases by 1/2-1 mile every week. I run Tues, Thurs, and Saturdays, with an easy day on Sunday (usually run/walk) and I'm trying to do yoga MWF in between. This week I'm supposed to run 12 miles total. I'm going to try and make up that last 1 1/2 miles this afternoon I didn't run this morning.

I consider myself a morning person, but generally not when the mornings begin at 5am (which is when I have to get up to ensure I'm done running by 6:30). So, I'm sort of stuck. I get way too sweaty when I run to do it at my lunch hour, so I have to choose to get up early, or try and struggle through in the afternoon. The sun doesn't set here until around 9:30, and that's past my bedtime :D so I can't wait until it cools off in the evening to run.

[PoohsPal]

MM- Forgive me if you've heard this before. You know not to increase distance by more than 10% per week, right? Have you check out RUnning for Mortals? It's by John Bingham, the same person whose Marahtoning for Mortals got me through 4 marathons. It's a great book fro beginners. i worry that if you quit, even though you think you could have finished, that you may be pushing yourself to hard. Where are your rest days? As a beginner, you really shoudl have 2 rest days. No XT, just rest. WIthout rest days, your muscles can't recover.

[MatterhornMiss]

Haha--I have more rest than I have workouts, it seems. :rotfl2:

Last week I didn't do yoga at all. Two or three weeks ago I took an entire week off running. Sundays I'm supposed to be taking an "easy" run or walk/run, but I usually just take an easy walk with my dogs (and not for the length of time I should be moving. I just tend to make excuses. Last week, on the day I cut it short, I ran out of steam. Today I didn't feel bad--I just got tired of running (since I'm running so early in the morning, I don't feel comfortable running outside in the dark, which means I'm running on a treadmill which I find totally boring).

Last week I was supposed to run 12 miles (total). This week, I think it is also 12 miles (total). I'm wimping out, though, on some days, about the same last week as I am this week (so far). I think next week it is a total of either 12.5 or 13 miles (so, less than the 10% increase)

I think I'm just whining too much. I'd much rather prefer to sit on my butt. But, sitting on my butt won't get me across the finish line in October, nor will it get me across the finish line if I do the Princess 1/2.

[MatterhornMiss]

But, if you think I should scale back, I have no problem with that. :D

[PoohsPal]

Hey, I resemble those remarks. :D The first year, I ahted Saturday am runs. I do weekday runs in teh pm, as I'd have to get up at 3:30 am to get them in during the week. The 2nd year, we decided tha twe would not do Saturday runs if we were not home. Surprisingly enough, I missed them. :scared07: I still go through lazy streaks but it's so much easier once you make it a part of your lifestyle.

Still, I would only run 3 days a week and maybe 2 days of yoga. It helps tons, but you still get sore from it, so it's not 100% rest.

Running for Mortals will also help inspire you. You really should give it a read.

[withdisneyspirit]

But, if you think I should scale back, I have no problem with that. :D

I love it!!! :rotfl2: I am trying to wind back up too. I did do some minor running yesterday on my tm along with fast walking. I haven't suffered from that so I am hoping to be able to do my long run this weekend! :fingerscrossed:

All this TOT talk is making me jealous :rolleyes:

[PoohsPal]

All this TOT talk is making me jealous :rolleyes:
As I recall, Laura and I told you that you had to come in March. That should have been plenty of notice. :D

[MatterhornMiss]

Hey, I resemble those remarks. :D The first year, I ahted Saturday am runs. I do weekday runs in teh pm, as I'd have to get up at 3:30 am to get them in during the week. The 2nd year, we decided tha twe would not do Saturday runs if we were not home. Surprisingly enough, I missed them. :scared07: I still go through lazy streaks but it's so much easier once you make it a part of your lifestyle.

Still, I would only run 3 days a week and maybe 2 days of yoga. It helps tons, but you still get sore from it, so it's not 100% rest.

Running for Mortals will also help inspire you. You really should give it a read.

I think I can do that. I basically just run 3 days as it is. Now I won't feel bad about taking an easy 20 minute start/stop stroll with the dogs on Sunday, instead of 40 minutes walk/run. And, getting rid of my Wed yoga will be better. I tried getting up early to do it before work (Wednesdays are long days, so I don't really have time to do so when I get home), and the deepest stretching I got was with my (many) yawns. I gave up after 15 mins.

I'll take a look at the book next time I'm in a store. I briefly browsed his website. I like his description of "penguins"--I think I fit that better than a peacock, which seems too intense for me! I really liked that he encouraged all those runners with 12 minute miles (me!), "the few, the proud, the plodding".

[Rozzie]

I suprised that there isn't a schedule posted already. :rotfl2:

Watch yourself there, or I'll make you Assistant to Special Project Event Manager. :D

MM, I have transformed myself into a night runner. I do my best running early in the morning, but getting up at 0315 all week was burning me out. Fridays I still`run at 0430 before work. Usually I now run at 630pm after work. Sure the sun is still up, but it "cools" (well it never really cools off, usually still 85-90s) as the run progresses. I do get up and run at 0430 on the weekends. Especially the LR. That way I can come home, nap lounge around then have the rest of my day to myself. Nothing like being "done" at 0800 while the rest of the world is just turning over. ;) I find this works for me. I say all of this is you need to find what works for YOU and then make it a part of your life. Put it first. Think of it as a part time job you can't call out on. Only illness or injury can get you out, just like a regular clock in type job. No matter what, make yourself do it. Then it will become a part of your life, a habit, then it gets easier. But to me, consistency is probably one of the most important things you need to conquer when you are just starting out. If it never becomes a "part" of your life, then it will always just seem like a chore you can talk yourself out of. Also like Carrie said, you do need rest days. I always had 2 rest days my first year of running. Now I like to do my Yoga after my hard runs now, then on my recovery runs have the rest of the day off. Gosh, yoga after a hard run is amazing. :thumbsup2:

[PoohsPal]

I like his description of "penguins"--I think I fit that better than a peacock, which seems too intense for me! I really liked that he encouraged all those runners with 12 minute miles (me!), "the few, the proud, the plodding".
While I am a penguin adn darn proud of it, I think you missed soe thing in the definition of a peacock. It's not being proud of hitting one particular goal taht's set for everyone, it's all the victories. For you, it wil be "Yay! I ran the furthest I've ever run today!" or "I actually went a full mile at __ pace." It's about celebrating personal victories with each other, not commparing yourself to others. Believe it or not, I used ot be somewhat impressive to Rozzie & nono before they started (think tiny fish in microscopic pond). now, tehy blow me away. I'm still thirlled for them on their vicotiries, though, and they've yet to tell me to shut up whenI brag about one of mine. :p

[MatterhornMiss]

I appreciate all the tips! :love30:

I feel I do the best running in the early afternoon. I'm awake, I'm alert, and generally, not overly tired. But, since the beginning of July, I'm also at work during that time.

I guess I can look into running at the gym on the treadmill around lunch or early afternoon. Treadmilling running sucks in my mind--except that I can run at a faster pace, which means I'm done sooner :p. However, given the heat and time restrictions, I'm doing that Tues/Thurs anyway, so I guess it won't matter if I do so at home or at work.

All sorts of things to think about!

[nono]

But, sitting on my butt won't get me across the finish line in October, nor will it get me across the finish line if I do the Princess 1/2.


AMEN Peacock!

Look. A lot of days, running sucks for me. I don't do it because it is fun. I do it because I don't like the alternative. I also like the feeling of relief at the end. ;) But don't beat yourself up over 1.5 miles. I think it's great if you go out there and get it back tonight. If not...Eh. <shrug> Pause your program and repeat the week next week. That way, you're giving yourself a natural cut-back week for this week, and then you'll move forward.

Not enough data on what you are doing for yoga to agree or disagree that you are maxing out. Are you doing Power Yoga? How long are your sessions on the days you do yoga?

[MatterhornMiss]

While I am a penguin adn darn proud of it, I think you missed soe thing in the definition of a peacock. It's not being proud of hitting one particular goal taht's set for everyone, it's all the victories. For you, it wil be "Yay! I ran the furthest I've ever run today!" or "I actually went a full mile at __ pace." It's about celebrating personal victories with each other, not commparing yourself to others. Believe it or not, I used ot be somewhat impressive to Rozzie & nono before they started (think tiny fish in microscopic pond). now, tehy blow me away. I'm still thirlled for them on their vicotiries, though, and they've yet to tell me to shut up whenI brag about one of mine. :p

I think it's just disheartening sometimes to be proud I ran 5 miles in an hour (12 min mile), then read about another beginner runner who can keep on pace at under 10 mins. I just feel I should be doing better.

[soozaay]

While I am a penguin adn darn proud of it, I think you missed soe thing in the definition of a peacock. It's not being proud of hitting one particular goal taht's set for everyone, it's all the victories. For you, it wil be "Yay! I ran the furthest I've ever run today!" or "I actually went a full mile at __ pace." It's about celebrating personal victories with each other, not commparing yourself to others. Believe it or not, I used ot be somewhat impressive to Rozzie & nono before they started (think tiny fish in microscopic pond). now, tehy blow me away. I'm still thirlled for them on their vicotiries, though, and they've yet to tell me to shut up whenI brag about one of mine. :p

Carrie...thank you so much for those words of inspiration! I find that I do that to myself alot (compare to others) and what I should really be doing is being happy with what I'm succeeding at. With comparing myself to others, I find that I get discouraged easlier & faster, almost giving up, but if I just focus on me, I do ok.

[withdisneyspirit]

Susie is right, Carrie, I LOVED how you described being a Peacock :yahoo: :goodvibes: It was so true!

MM, if you want to feel better about your 5 miles in an hour, know that I am thrilled if I do 5 miles at 13.5 minute miles :rolleyes: :D I really mean that I am happy about that! Its a walk/run for me and its fast enough for a Disney medal. I would love to be faster but I am doing my best for right now given my joints etc.

[DisneyGeek]

I think it's just disheartening sometimes to be proud I ran 5 miles in an hour (12 min mile)

Someday I have to get my nerve up and just try to do 5 miles straight- IIRC I've never done more than 4.26 miles and even that included a BUNCH of walking!!! I think you have plenty to be proud of, so Peacock away- I think everyone here feels you deserve it! :cheerleader:

[mickeyndvcfan]

I think it's just disheartening sometimes to be proud I ran 5 miles in an hour (12 min mile), then read about another beginner runner who can keep on pace at under 10 mins. I just feel I should be doing better.


Always be proud of whatever you do. When I did the Princess with the gang I finished with just 10 mins. to spare for the time limit allowed to receive a medal. And I was just as proud of that medal as the first person that crossed the finish line. If I started comparing myself with the rest of our Peacocks I would never have done the race. I know that I will never be as fast as them. It's not about the speed (unless you want to qualify for the Boston marathon) but about finishing what you started. So you do the best that you can and don't worry about how fast everyone else is going.

[withdisneyspirit]

So true, Gail! I wasn't the last to cross the tape at the Mickey Marathon but I only beat the max time by about 15 minutes or even less :grin: When they put the medal around my neck, I was ecstatic!!

[nono]

I think it's just disheartening sometimes to be proud I ran 5 miles in an hour (12 min mile), then read about another beginner runner who can keep on pace at under 10 mins. I just feel I should be doing better.

Here's my Vulcan logic stepping in here:

We all have different starting lines.
We are all running different races. (Don't mistake being at the same organized event as running the same race. 'Tis not so.)
So, let's celebrate all the successses in all the races we're running. :thumbsup2: We all have the right to pound our chests and display our feathers as we achieve new goals.

[PoohsPal]

I just want to add that it's so awesome to watch people go from thinking about doing it to starting to train to finishing their first big race. Just because it's the most recent, hearing about Gail's finishing and thinking of where she started gives me huge goosebumps. You really are your only competition. You compete with what your brain wants and what your muscles can do and sometimes override them both.

Remember, too, how many people never get off the couch. I got a voice mail frm my firend after my first marathon. Yes, I was pleased wioth how I did, but I was nowhere near teh front, maybe barely in teh top half of women. Listenign to her voice mail said so much, though, even if she is in Central TIme Zone. "I am so proud of you. You finished a marathon before I even left for church this morning." EVen if it's ot a marathon, so many poeple don't get off that couch. I use my WDW races as rewards fro getting up and geting moving. Those personal victories really keep me going, though.

(Sorry, getting all mushy again. I love sharing with peopple who are new to running)

[soozaay]

I am so happy that I stopped by the running page today! I've been having a "down on myself" couple of weeks and you guys, as usual, picked me up, dusted me off and shoved me out the door! I love this place!

[withdisneyspirit]

Yay, nono and Carrie :yahoo:

[Rozzie]

With comparing myself to others, I find that I get discouraged easlier & faster, almost giving up, but if I just focus on me, I do ok.

Oh you and me both. If I compared myself to others I would never have the courage to get out the door. I train now with my Coach's racing team. Or I should say I run at the same time they run, because I never see them again in workouts after we start LOL! I can't allow myself to get intimidated when they lap me 3 times on our loop, get finished with their long runs a hour before me, running 7 min miles when I am doing everything I can just to finish my workout. But something has happened as I have started to get to know them, I have learned they are human. Sure they run Boston every year, but they hurt, ache, have crappy runs, sometimes hate running, etc. This has helped me see them as normal people. (well not normal, runners are not normal people by any stretch of the imagination ;)) They just happen to run faster than I will ever dream of running. We are all on different levels, as nono said so perfectly, all on different starting lines. Truly running is not about beating the person next to you, it's beating your own expectations, conquering your own demons, pushing yourself as Lisa says "outside your comfort zone".

MM, there is nothing wrong whatsoever with a 12 min pace. I am going to PM you my log when I get it caught up. I keep up with it at Runningahead and you will see the vast majority of my runs are in the 11:00 range. Some runs are pushing 12:00's. You make me out to be some lightning bolt when I am far from it!! I really I am not focused on speed, I am focused on distance. Speed will come later in this journey, right now it's all about surviving the distance. Especially in this G*d forsaken heat!

Carrie, as I have told you before, your Race report is what started me running. You have accomplished so much more than me, heck I have not even finished a marathon! You have much more experience than me in all of this. I am just blindly trotting along, hoping the light at the end of the tunnel is not another train coming. :grin: That is normal to feel to that way in marathon training, right?

So Peacocks unite! Remember we celebrate our victories, and push each other forward when one wants to fall behind. :) We all have those days, what is important as Carrie said we are not on the couch feeling sorry for ourselves, we are out there DOING IT! :thumbsup2:

[withdisneyspirit]

Rah, rah, Rozzie!!!!!!

It is truly amazing to me how many people simply will not do anything to preserve their body's health through exercise. I have really tried to inspire people in my world to work out and if my self worth were caught up in this, I would feel like an abysmal failure...:( I have had a small impact on a couple of ladies from work; they get out and walk for a little while on break most days and do other stuff in their off time :goodvibes: Neither used to do anything at all!

My biggest success is my DH! I can't express how wonderful this is to me as I hope to live a long life with him and exercise is what will contribute to that goal! Bottom line, it is up to the individual to decide to get out there and do it - we can't do it for them. Just like giving up bad habits, starting new habits is "not so easy"

AND, its just so fun being a PEACOCK (did you hear that Mr. Stimpy??)

[soozaay]

Go peacocks!

[Rozzie]

My biggest success is my DH! I can't express how wonderful this is to me as I hope to live a long life with him and exercise is what will contribute to that goal!

I know Lisa, I am so thankful Scott started running. He was very unhealthy, never exercised a day in his life. Ate horrible, blah blah. Now not only is he a running fool, but his BP is normal, he is mentally more balanced (ie temper under control ;)), blood work normal and 60 lbs lighter! He eats probably better than me. He says all the time he feels like a new person, I am just happy to have him healthy--I used to worry all the time about him having a heart attack. It's a new lease on life for the both of us. :goodvibes:

[PoohsPal]

I am so happy that I stopped by the running page today! I've been having a "down on myself" couple of weeks and you guys, as usual, picked me up, dusted me off and shoved me out the door! I love this place!
:hug1:

[PoohsPal]

:goodvibes::goodvibes::goodvibes: to all our peacocks, even the hiding one.

Roz - Totally normal. You are so far ahead of where Scott and I were before our first marathon, though, you will do awesome!

Lisa - I still can't belieev RIck is doing the half. After the first 2 meetings, I never thought I'd see the day. yay!!!!

OK, another story.

I saw teh Penguin talk in 2007. He was telling us that he had lunch with someone who won Chicago adn set a world record. Of course, the world record setter asked the Penguin what his time was. The Penguin sheepishly told him. DO you know what Mr. ELite said back? As opposed to what we would all fear, he said, "Wow, I cannot imagine what it takes to be out there running for that long." He was amazed with the Penguin's endurance. So, what some of us lack in speed, we make up for in grit. I have so much respect for everyone who just doesn't quit.

[DisneyGeek]

My biggest success is my DH! I can't express how wonderful this is to me as I hope to live a long life with him and exercise is what will contribute to that goal! Bottom line, it is up to the individual to decide to get out there and do it - we can't do it for them. Just like giving up bad habits, starting new habits is "not so easy"

Flip that to DW and I'm in the same boat. My loosing ~75 pounds (~85 at my lowest, it fluctuates...) by changing my diet and exercising got her to decide to start wanting and working to catch up. Now she is going to Curves 3-5 times per week and is talking about starting to walk regularly on top of it! Her reason- she wants to be healthier, live longer, and enjoy traveling with me more and needs to be in better shape to keep up (especially in Disney parks! ;)) She even mentioned last night that she better get walking more since she only has 3 months to 'train' and be ready for our October WDW trip. :D

[nono]

"Wow, I cannot imagine what it takes to be out there running for that long."


DING DING DING! That's my motivation. I couldn't even start to attempt a marathon until I was pretty sure that I can do it in 4 hrs. (give or take -- the proof will be in November and March). I know my limitations as an athlete are in my head, and I think I'd quit if I weren't near the finish line at 4 hrs or less. I just don't have the required concentration past that point. So, I've been working on speed for the last 3 years to get me in position to tackle the next challenge. Simply to work around my mental limitations. :oweye:

[withdisneyspirit]

I love you guys!!!!! (getting all verklempt here) :goodvibes::hug1:

[MatterhornMiss]

Thanks so much you guys, for all your encouragement! I get so impatient, setting my goals and wanting to have reached them yesterday, that I usually forget how far I've come. I appreciate everybody's kind words. :grouphug:


:goodvibes::goodvibes::goodvibes:
I saw teh Penguin talk in 2007. He was telling us that he had lunch with someone who won Chicago adn set a world record. Of course, the world record setter asked the Penguin what his time was. The Penguin sheepishly told him. DO you know what Mr. ELite said back? As opposed to what we would all fear, he said, "Wow, I cannot imagine what it takes to be out there running for that long." He was amazed with the Penguin's endurance. So, what some of us lack in speed, we make up for in grit. I have so much respect for everyone who just doesn't quit.

Just a little teary eyed here :boohoohoo:

[Ultramm]

I know Lisa, I am so thankful Scott started running. He was very unhealthy, never exercised a day in his life. Ate horrible, blah blah. Now not only is he a running fool, but his BP is normal, he is mentally more balanced (ie temper under control ;)), blood work normal and 60 lbs lighter! He eats probably better than me. He says all the time he feels like a new person, I am just happy to have him healthy--I used to worry all the time about him having a heart attack. It's a new lease on life for the both of us. :goodvibes:
Glad Scott is joining along with you! You will be doing the Goofy before you know it!

Can't wait to see you at WDW again as I go for the perfect Goofy next year!

[Ultramm]

Hope to see some of you at DL 1/2 and to get my second Coast to Coast medal set!

[Ultramm]

TOT info. :) This is how it worked last year.

PostParty: Tons of fun, not long lines at all. I know Mr. Roz did TSM over and over again without getting off--of course that was with the race still going on. Also like Carrie said, ToT, RNR, and GMR were open. The snack shops by ToT were open. Pizza, salads, chk fingers, etc. Also beer available, but if you want that be sure to bring cash. Cash only on beer. Most everyone who stayed for the party changed at least their shirts. I brought some baby wipes and a different shirt and put it in my race bag I always bring to races. One of those athletic bags with drawstrings suits me fine as it does not take up a lot of space. Last time Mr Roz held it, but this year I will check it at bag check or "baggage claim". You rip a part of your bib off that serves as your receipt to pick it back up. WARNING: Last year it looked a little unorganized and was taking a long time to get your bag. I might see is some of the Peacocks want to to maybe try a bigger bag and combine forces. That way we are not waiting on 5-6 different bags and we can start partying. The after race food was yuck. Don't bother. Over processed nasty fake sugar muffin. :blech: I will stash my protein recovery drink in my bag then go right to the :biggulp:.

Also, this is important. We will talk and get more organized when it get's closer but just to have it out there. I plan on getting to the race early. Last year I dillydaddled too much at the corral area and by the time I got to the start I was pushed all the way back to front of the walkers. Yep no corrals. First come first serve. Plus there will be a lot of 5Kers that were not there last year. I think last year there were 6,000 runners? That is a lot to be pinned up on a narrow street. I have a time goal soooo I plan on arriving early. Plus the first year there were major traffic problems. We walked last year from BCV. I say all of this to say we will have our civic and can get 3 more in our car. Whoever does not mind being early for the race is more than welcome to ride with us. If the race is at 10pm again, I think we will leave OKW at 7pm. I know, I am a freak. But there is traffic getting there, parking, baggage claim, warming up, etc etc. Plus I would like to visit a little while with some other folk that will be coming to the race. :)

This is going to be a BLAST!!!!!! :rocker:
The 5K starts at 10:15 while the 13K starts at 10:30. We will be doing RFTT 10K this year with F&W instead. 1st year was disorganized but year 2 better. We volunteered and entered the party at 10 pm and rode TSM 7 times in a row without getting off.

Have fun gang and mabe see you at RFTT or at the Goofy in Jan!

[Rozzie]

Oh thanks Robert---that sounds great for the staggered starts. Whoowee! Oh, and me doing Goofy! Ha!! :rotfl2:

[DisneyGeek]

Hope to see some of you at DL 1/2 and to get my second Coast to Coast medal set!

Wow, I'm very impressed by your medal set! :) Hope you make all your goals. As for me, I'm just busy plotting getting my first Disney finishers medal... :rotfl2: Every journey has a beginning I suppose. With that, I'm off for a training run around home in a few minutes.

[MatterhornMiss]

Have fun gang and mabe see you at RFTT or at the Goofy in Jan!

Yea--someone else for the Race for the Taste! I'll be there!

[MatterhornMiss]

I'm just busy plotting getting my first Disney finishers medal... :rotfl2: Every journey has a beginning I suppose. With that, I'm off for a training run around home in a few minutes.

It's funny, but I think it's the prize of that Disney race medal that first inspired me to take up running at all!

I slept in late today, had a late breakfast (at lunch time) and am waiting for it to digest before I take off on my 5 mile run. Plus, I'm hoping it will warm up a smidge before then--it's July in KY, but only in the mid 60s, and overcast and breezy. Still, it will be nice not to have heat and humidity!

[DisneyGeek]

It's funny, but I think it's the prize of that Disney race medal that first inspired me to take up running at all!

That (and Team Peacock!) are absolutely what got me started!!! I've done two 5ks so far so but since they weren't Disney they were just practice... ;) 3rd time is charm after all, isn't it? :p I had a good run today- I did walk 0.29 of my 3.29 total, but still averaged 9:50 per mile overall, a new record for 3+ miles. :D Now I just have to match or best that in October so it becomes an 'official' PR!!! :rotfl2:

Hope the weather works out for you and have a good 5 miler! :cheerleader:

[withdisneyspirit]

Peacock Lisa here reporting in, that thrillingly, I was able to complete a planned six miler today at 3/2's with no problems!!!! YIPPEEEEEE!!!!!:yahoo: I was so excited that my knee cooperated and it feels just fine right now! The weather was great too, so all in all, a great day! Hope all the Peacocks are doing well like us! :goodvibes:

[MatterhornMiss]

Good job, all!

I think I'll go "suit up!" for my run.